The Most IMMOBILE QBs in NFL History
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Today's NFL Qbs are freaks. These guys couldn't move for s**t.
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Always remember that Steve Bono, the most immobile QB of his time, ran a 76 yards bootleg. Even being as slow as a paralytic turtle.
His blocking lineman had to slow down 😂
Secret Base did a video on that 😂
@12thMandalorian Yup, and if I can say something about that video, is that it is a true masterpiece!
He destroyed Buddy Ryan's ego
@@12thMandaloriando you have the video title?
Honorable mention to Steve Bono with the weirdest 76 yard td run you'll ever see
I came here to say this. 76-yard bootleg that faked everyone out Peyton Manning-style. Bono was so slow on that run that an offensive lineman had to slow down and wave him along.
Only person in the camera shot only he can say that
Secret Base did a video on that 😂
Flacco having 16 rushing touchdowns might be the craziest stat in the NFL books
And Joe Flacco's first ever touchdown was coincidentally on a 38 yard run vs the Bengals.
Most of them would be goal line rushes
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@jeremybrown9611 He never had the chance to at least replicate his 38 touchdown run again.
Flacco had wheels back then. The craziest stat is Dan Marino’s 87 career rushing yards.
As a Chargers fan, that re-productive Rivers line had me 😂
I am really shocked Bernie Kosar wasn't on this list. Dude was a 6'6" lumbering giant while running. He didn't even have the best passing mechanics either, but he lead a number of good Browns teams that nearly got to the SB
Kosar was the first name that popped into my head when I saw the title of this video.
Still remember Drew Carey making a joke about his mobility... by slapping the mike stand down to the ground.
Nothing about Bernie Kosar’s game should’ve worked, but he was just a baller.
Shoutout to all the QBs who were so mobile they transitioned into other positions. 👏🏻
Antwaan Randle El!
@@DaveCompton5150 I read this in his player intro voice 🤣 not ashamed to say it lmao
Kordell “Slash” Stewart
@@alexcharles2716 Kordell only transitioned to get on the field his first 2-3 years. He got a fair short as a starting QB...14K passing yards.
Terrell Pryor could get a good look.
Bryon Leftwich wasn't known for his mobility. He had a good scramble one game. After the game a reporter told him he always thought he was the slowest QB. Leftwich replied "I'm not the slowest QB, I'm just the slowest black QB." LOL
Dan Marino wasn't immobile. It was true he was never known for tucking and running but he was extremely elusive in the pocket. Bernie Kosar is the GOAT of immobility. They called him the Scarecrow, his immobility was so infamous it was a part of Drew Carey's standup act.
Marino just never ran forward. And why would he? His arm was a modified howitzer.
@@Nightenstaff not just strong but insanely fast release and very quick decision making. He's the prototype.
Marino has 301 career rushing attempts for 87 total yards!!!!
It's all spacial awareness and knowing how to leverage your blocks. Which is becoming a lost art, everyone just wants to bail from the pocket (cutting the field, and eliminating options) at the first sign of trouble.
@@yepdontcarebudJoe Burrow is a modern day example of incredible pocket awareness and how to move in it. It’s a shame his O-line sucks
Drew Carey did a joke where he would wobble a microphone stand back and forth to imitate Bernie Kosar. To be fair to Bernie, he did have a stellar 265 on the ground.
Also. Steve Bono had a 76 yard TD run, but only 267 yards in his career.
That Bono run is the subject of one of my favorite Jon Bois videos, too.
It’s too bad that Bono isn’t even the best Steve that came from the QB factory of the 49ers back in the late 80’s and early 90’s. He almost did unseat a mobile QB as the starter but we all saw what happened afterwards which explains why he got shipped to Kansas City and had that run that was so bizarre you would have thought you were seeing something from another dimension. An immobile QB running 76 yards for a TD.
I was hoping Bono would get an honorable mention.
QBs used to get levelled if they dared to venture out of the pocket. Now you can't touch them without risking flags
Yeah back in my day, I walked to school barefoot in 4' of snow while carrying firewood with only underwear and a T-shirt! Even nicknamed me boomer!
@@randlemarshBack in my day they would let the fans come down onto the field after a victory and let them help with scalping the opposing team. Simpler times
@@shekelmcfreckleare you a fellow boomer too? We had it the hardest of hard back in the day. I had to break eggs that were boiled! 😮
@@randlemarsh yup those were the days. Back when real men put on their tights and piled on each other every play
Doug Williams during his days in Washington and Mark Rypien have entered the chat
Byron Leftwich was slower than cold shit. It really stood out considering his time as a starter in Jacksonville was between Mark Brunell and David Garrard. Two of the bigger running threats at the time.
In my eyes Leftwich will always be remembered for being a tough SOB staying the game getting carried downfield by his linemen after breaking his shin.
Watching Scott Mitchell try and scramble hurt the fans' feelings. I watched the Lions and Packers at the Silverdome, and I feared for Mitchell's life as he ran away from Reggie White. It was like a lion chasing a two-legged elderly giraffe.
i ran a 5.3 40 as a chicken legged 14 year old. i'm sure i coulda smoked mitchell that day
Honorable mention to Bernie Kosar who rushed for 265 yds in 126 games, and was sacked 273 times. He was brave, he stood in the pocket and took his lumps. He was also an accurate mid-range passer. But he was slow.
Grew up watching him play, and one of the announcers referred to him as slower than erosion. Still not sure how I survived that line.
Wow....No Bernie Kosar?
Maybe it was because he had a whopping 180att for 265yrd with 5 tds.
🤣🤣🤣
I love Drew Carey's joke about Bernie Kosar scrambling: "He's at the 20...the 21..."
And at the opposite end:
Michael Vick has the most rushing yards as QB. 6109 yards on 873 carries, 7.0 yards per carry, and 36 TDs.
Cam Newton is second in yardage but has a record 75 rushing TDs
Lamar Jackson is fourth all-time at 5011 yards but has only played in 82 games in his career (Vick played in 143).
Fran Tarkenton is 7th all-time.
Tobin Rote is 11th all-time..... he was a QB for the Packers and Lions in the 1950s and also played for the Chargers and the CFL Toronto Argonauts in the 1960s.
A valid point is that Tarkenton ran AROUND to buy more time, not to take off and gain yards. His career would not have lasted as long had he run more, but he was capable of a lot more yardage.
@shrapnel77 I was surprised that he had that much yardage. I knew he was a mobile QB, but as you pointed out, running downfield wasn't the primary focus.
And how many SB rings among them? 0
Vick ran like he was being chased by abused dogs!
0:37 “what’s this? Another juicy week of the NFL and NBA?”
NHL: cries in a corner (when will you do hockey videos? 😭).
I don't know how you could make this video without mentioning Lynn Dickey of the Packers. By the 1980's, Dickey couldn't run for crap because he literally had pins in his legs, but he was still a pro-bowl quality quarterback.
He's got my vote
With a name like Dickey, he’s got my vote as well 😂
Joe Namath and Ken Stabler, the Alabama duo one year in the 70s combined for 20 carries for -3 yards.
Ken stabler had 4 rushing touchdowns and 93 rushing yards in his nfl career which was pretty funny
Marino also had elite pocket presence
No Bernie Kosar?
Remember my dad dubbing Bubby Brister and Mike Tomczak "Lead Foot" and "Lead Foot, Jr." respectively.
@4:39 damn that backwards pass is legendary. Dan Marino was the shit
I remember seeing Marino run for a first down once - it was (I think) Shula's last season. It was late in the year with the Dolphins trying to win the game and were getting desparate - hence the unlikely sight of Marino humping it for a first down.
“Child labor in the Philippines” was wild lmao
Dan Marino didn't need much mobility with a laser release, but he became a virtual statue after tearing his Achilles at the Mistake on the Lake.
Craig Morton anybody? Played for Dallas, Giants and led the Broncos to a superbowl while sprinting like a sloth with arthritis
Not only are you super knowledgeable in football history, but your commentary has me in stitches 😂. 🤣 . Well done.
My favorite term for immobile QBs is the "Stone Age Pony," coined by ATN's Marc Sessler. It doesn't really make sense if you think about it, but it just sounds right.
If you thought about Elvis Grbac or Kyle Boller in stead of Joe Flacco, you deserve a senior discount. That includes me.
Eli Manning once was called for delay of game when he ran a bootleg.
Cool little fact @fivepointsvids most qbs who spent most of thier career immobile also had a long career. Those who run last 8-10 years at best. Not all but most
The only true running QB I can think of who had a long career was Randall Cunningham. You could maybe argue Vick, but he had a lull in his career for "reasons". Tarkenton was more scrambler than runner, and could limit the number of big hits. Russell Wilson holds the record for most carries and yards for a QB during his superbowl winning season, 96-539.
Makes sense when you can’t offer your legs as a part of the gameplan. Take fewer hits 🤷♂️
I can't believe how wrong you are about Flacco. He was the first great Ravens' dual threat QB. The Elite Dragon could fly.
Super bowl champion Joe Flacco lol. Put some respect on it haha.
He had some really good runs back in the day. I watched that joe flacco rushing highlight reel and he had some great runs.
He didn't fly in Saturday XD
Poor Daniel Jones... lol
8:58
@3:50 no way he slid there, was that to end the game?
Billy Kilmer needed to be in this somewhere. He had one leg longer than the other. Amazing because he replaced a guy who may have been slower Sonny Jorgensen.
Joe Namath. Although with modern medicine he’d be plenty mobile great natural athlete with 2 injured knees that would have healed much better in this era.😊
Marino was slow but his pocket presence and mobility inside the pocket was great
you can add Jared Goff to the list, uncoordinated and slower than molasses
You forgot Warren Moon. I don't remember him moving around that much. He had an arm equal to Danny Marino
warren moon was actually pretty mobile for his time, but he notably ran slower than his best at the combine because the idea at the time was that a fast black qb doesn’t really work in the nfl, so he wanted to make sure people thought he was a pure passer
Sorry nobody threw like Marino ever.... not even moon
Ron Jaworski..he’d never bail out of the pocket to run and that’s why LT kept sacking him 3-4 times a game
Someone once said Big Ben runs like a skyscraper with legs 😭
The bills had a quarterback named Rob Johnson in the early 2000s I would say. When he ran it looked like his shoe laces had been tied together.
Obviously forgot about Kosar.
Fun video.
This sent me into a rabbit hole of looking up the rushing stats of some of the bigger QBs from my childhood. I went with 6-3, 200 as a minimum. So people like Steve Bartkowski, Terry Bradshaw, Jim Plunkett, Archie Manning, Craig Morton and such. I also reached down to look up some of the more obscure candidates of that era, the likes of Joe Pisarcik Obviously, rushing stats do not definitively prove anything: there were probably some QBs who actually ran pretty well but just didn't, there were probably others who piled up surprising rushing totals because their O-lines betrayed them and forced them to run.
While there were plety of people who were right where I would figure (e.g. Bartkowski, Ken O'Brien, Don Strock), there were some surprises. A few of the QBs from that era were smaller than I would have guessed, like Bob Griese. And a couple of the bigger guys I looked up had very solid yards-per-carry averages, like Bert Jones (5.8) and Bradshaw (5.1).
One of the players I always remembered as little more than a stuck-in-the-pocket chucker, Steve Grogan, put up some solid rushing stats in his first five years: 1,739 yards, plus a 12-TD season. It's just that I caught him at the very end of that run, and by the time I was really getting into football as a fan, he was more of a platoon guy with a different quarterback.
tbh, as a Rams fan, I can't believe Goff isn't on here. Like I'm still cheering for him to this day, the Lions are a beast, but the boy consistently forgets he even HAS feet
Jared Goff to me is the last true pocket passing QB to be pick first overall. Guys like Baker Mayfield, Joe Burrow, and Trevor Lawrence are what I refer to as the new age pocket passers. Meaning, they overwhelming play in the pocket, but they can make plays with their legs every now and then. Trevor is the most mobile out of the three. Jared Goff has good pocket awareness, but as soon as the pocket falls apart, the play is dead.
Most of these players would be considered classic "pocket passers".
Joe Flacco looks like he's running in house slippers 😂
Wasn't Big Ben pretty much a statue later in his career?
He was. When he lost the ability to move in the pocket was when he started to REALLY fall off as a QB
Holy recency bias! As stated in the comments there are some glaring omissions from probably before you were watching FB. Browns had one season where Kosar got hurt, then so did Gary Danielsen, and eventually we had to witness Don Strock. A trifecta of immobile QBing.
I was fully expecting a Jared Goff mention lmao
A lot more to NFL history than 20 years.
I'd much rather have an immobile qb who can stand in the pocket and deliver a good throw than some showoff who runs first and gets hurt because of unnecessary hits.
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Ohhh that’s how Bruce Smith got to Marino so often. I never noticed how immobile he was compared to Jim Kelly
This is a hell of a way to learn that Jared Lorenzen is dead.
I vaguely remember eli running and untouched lost fumble when going to ground. I think it was eagles 2010 when i looked it up. So even when Eli has a good run he messes it up
Anybody else think that peyton manning looks like a t rex when he runs? Lmfao rawr
That thumb nail is flat out WRONG! Lmbo! Along with the child labor line! Good stuff my man! LOL
How in the hell do you do an immobile QB list and not include Bernie Kosar? Sham.
From what I've learned as an Eagles fan.
We had mobile QB's since I was born. Cunningham, Vick, McNabb, Hurts, heck even Pete, Wentz, and Garcia had mobility.
But a statue got himself a statue built.
QB's don't gotta be mobile, even today.
Maybe because I only watched him play over his last 5 or 6 seasons but Steve Grogan seemed like he was running in slow motion all the time.
I'd add Sonny Jurgensen [Washington Redskins] and Norm Snead [NY Giants & 49ers] to that list of immobile QBs.
Elvis Grbac. You can't even say "Elvis Grbac" and imagine a man running past a jog
Guy you would let date your daughter 💀
really depends on how you define mobility. Peyton and brady both had really good footwork and had great pocket mobility...dodging sacks with footwork as opposed to top end speed. That is a big part of mobility....both slow runners but had elite footwork. Mobility is more about quick footwork than top end speed in my mind. Maybe I'm trippin.
If Kurt Warner isn't on this list then you've just never seen him play before... he'd take sooooo many big hits from sitting in the pocket until the very last possible second! haha
Another one that could have made this list, Carson Palmer - 301 rushes, 474 Yds and 8 TDs. Career long rush - 16 yards.
He wasn't terrible until the Steelers tried to rip his leg off in that playoff game.
Idk how long of a career he'll have, for my Raiders sake I hope a long successful one, but you can add Aidan O'Connell to this list. That boy runs like he's got sandbags tied to his legs trying to run in quicksand
Philips last career rushing touchdown came in 2011 and it was that second rushing touchdown against the broncos.
“Even the white guys can do it” made me chuckle 😂
I always forget just how beautiful Brett Favres bullet passes are
Marino was the least mobile of any QB. In 17 years he ran the ball 301 times for 87 yards TOTAL. Still one of the greatest.
For a minute thought you were going to tread into Jon Bois's territory and mention Steve Bono.
The thumbnail 😂😂
A lot of this has to do with the fact that todays edge rushers are smaller and faster vs the ones of yesteryear.
Also remember Chris Redman is a member of the Brady 6 😂
I'd be curious to how many of Dan Marino's 300 rushing attempts were kneeldowns.
I would love to see a video about which hockey players were the most like Happy Gilmore (Ovechkin doesn’t count), I’m also surprised that hasn’t been one of the videos on this channel. Although it probably would be very difficult to research that.
it's brett hull - his goal to assist ratio is one of the most selfish in NHL history
I knew the Brett Hull thing, but I kinda meant the golfing part. My money is on Mike Modano for that but I’m not sure.
🤣Currently Chris Redman has more SB rings than Vick and Jackson, Cunningham(one of my favorites) or Fran.🤣😂
That child labor joke got me triggered at first but hey its so frickin accurate
Vinny Testaverde has entered the chat..
Drew Bledsoe was the slowest most immobile QB I’ve ever seen. He may have had a great arm but the man had no athletic ability whatsoever. He did everything slow, dropped back from center slow, had a slow windup and a slow release. Marino may have been your classic pocket QB, but at least in his younger days he had great small space athletic ability. He could really dance around the pocket and avoid the rush. Bledsoe had no such ability. If the rush got anywhere within 5 yards of him he was going down.
It's not that there was a stigma against running QBs as much as it was they had to change the rules to where the defense couldn't hit the QBs or cover receivers. Once that happened QBs started to run the ball like crazy
I’m surprised my boy leftwhich didn’t make it on this list
Kurt warner was told he wouldnt succeed because he couldnt stay in the pocket
Hart from the Cardinals in the 70's....
Also, Dan Fouts....
Jim Kelly....
Peyton Manning always looked like Herman Munster when he tried running
DJ actually had some real straight line speed when he gets going though. Too fast for even himself.
Late in his career Ben Rothlesberger has to be the slowest QB of all time. He was so painfully slow, defenses didn't either consider the possibility of him running even for small gains. It was painful to watch
where's my guy Dan Marino?! The dude could throw the ball on a rope, but.....Lordy to watch him run was painful!
I was at the game where Manning ran for that TD against the Bills. It was embarrassing. For the Bills.
I was waiting to see Phil Simms on this list. He almost never left the pocket.
At the risk of sounding like an old fart, Craig Morton, especially during his later years with the Broncos when his knees were toast, made Tom Brady look spry.
Unlike Deshaun Watson his hands didn't seem to cooperate 😂😂😂😂
Fun fact: Marino and Peyton, who both run ~7 second forties, are tied for second least sacked QB in league history. Fast reads and fast release>fast legs
Look at Lamar and tell me that being fast isn’t better than throwing faster, they can extend the play for ages, and if no gets open they run it for a first.
Phillip Rivers had cement blocks attached to his feet!
"Theres a stigma about running qbs" then goes to show the best qbs in their time being immobile.
Brady was ironically an exemplary qb sneaker. Supercam and now Hurts are the only guys i will say are definitely better at the qb sneak than brady was
Brady is still better than those guys. He converted at a way higher clip than Cam and Hurts doesn’t even do a legitimate QB “sneak” he does the tush push.
@@bananaman5668 yea he probably is better than cam tbh i remembered his dive and just assumed his size would make him unstoppable. Maybe he was more volatile. Tom was almost automatic. And i still count the tush push as a qb sneak cuz it isnt just a cheat code for anyone else. Everyones trying it, and nobody is as good at it as the eagles. I gotta believe Hurts’ 600 lb squat has something to do with that lol. Im sure hed be one of if not the best at the traditional qb sneak