Is there racial bias in Singapore's rental market? | MS Explains
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 22. 11. 2021
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It's a relatively common occurrence for property agents or landlords to ask for race when one applies to a listing.
Does racial bias exist in the rental market here, and if so, why does it happen?
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Wow Mothership doing actual journalism instead of grabbing things from the Internet. Good job!
Just how the world works lah! The landlord's are not specifically racist but just want to maximise their interest and avoid issues just like all business people lah...
For example, a Chinese landlord wants a Chinese renter because culture norms are same and easier to talk to or negotiate with.
But I think it does go against papa lee Kuan yews vision of a fair and equal society. But it's hard to enforce.... In the examples, the landlord's are very abrupt and forward with it but most of the time it's subtle and they find excuse to not allow rent to you! The government should step in.
Honestly, if the person is local there is little to no risk. When we rented to chinese prc though, they trashed our house and we spent about 20k to fix it up. We got an order from court but they ran back to china and we couldn't enforce it.
Goddamn what happened to your house?
@@Samlowkiapeng1888 they fried all the wires inside the house, used cigarette butts to destroy walls, floors and the staircase, literal shit around, trash about, insect infestation on multiple levels... when exterminators came they had to leave and come back with hazmat suits
@@havenprice wow... They just that filthy and wretched or purposely hate you??
I'm Chinese, but I really don't get it. I mean, Indians' curries are the best part about them living close by. I love smelling the curries from my kitchen window everyday. And the Malays tend to be the most polite and warm-hearted members of the community around. People need to focus on the positives, and not their perceived negatives.
Mothership should do these types of videos more often! It's quite similar to CNA Insider and SCMP's documentaries/talking point.
Just how the world works lah! The landlord's are not specifically racist but just want to maximise their interest and avoid issues just like all business people lah...
For example, a Chinese landlord wants a Chinese renter because culture norms are same and easier to talk to or negotiate with.
But I think it does go against papa lee Kuan yews vision of a fair and equal society. But it's hard to enforce.... In the examples, the landlord's are very abrupt and forward with it but most of the time it's subtle and they find excuse to not allow rent to you! The government should step in...
The funny thing is that most Indians landlord donât want to rent to Indians tenants as well đ€·đ»ââïž
Or Chinese landlords also donât wanna rent to China tenants too.
I agree with you.
Precisely.
I got rejected by a landlord of a similar race, religion, and culture as me. They speak Tamil and so do I. Thought it would be perfect but in the end, once they know that I spoke Tamil, Immediately rejected me on the spot. No reasons were given. Probably have some dead bodies under their private property which I am about to rent and didn't want me to hear about it when they were in the house. I'll take that as a good reason then.
@@danceoffAsh it's likely that they want someone who doesn't speak tamil so at least they will still have some privacy when they quarrel among themselves. đ
@@zapp99 Oh that's the 2nd best reason I gave myself.
A well researched experiment, presented exceptionally covering all grounds. Great job. Thanks for being bold and even putting this video out here. Appreciate it.
Just how the world works lah! The landlord's are not specifically racist but just want to maximise their interest and avoid issues just like all business people lah...
For example, a Chinese landlord wants a Chinese renter because culture norms are same and easier to talk to or negotiate with.
But I think it does go against papa lee Kuan yews vision of a fair and equal society. But it's hard to enforce.... In the examples, the landlord's are very abrupt and forward with it but most of the time it's subtle and they find excuse to not allow rent to you! The government should step in.....
Just a quick question for the smarts..
Will Muslims landlord rent their houses to Chinese and Indians and Caucasians who likes cooking and eating pork and bacon??
Having dogs to stay in the house?
If they don't want them cooking non-halal cuisine or keeping pets they can state clearly in the contract. If people who like to eat non-halal cuisine finds an issue with that they can find somewhere else. But if they don't mind they should be welcomed to stay. If the Muslim landlord assumes the non-Muslim applicant will go against their wishes then the landlord is being discriminatory too. Simple
I agree with you.
@Muhammad Adil Agreed, Wish landlords were more open here and concrete about their preferences. Be confident. Who cares if you're called racist, does being a non-racist gets you a medal? No. Get the right tenant and be done with.
no problem for me if they rent the whole house
I know many Muslim tenants who rent to non-muslims. They just have a rule for not cooking pork in the house, or prohibit pets. They are human beings after all, and many are happy for getting a place to stay.
Seriously, stop cloaking racism with condescension
I'm a real estate agent.
It's just down to owner's preferences based on their experiences with past tenants.
I've had Indian owners who specifically told me "I don't want Indian tenants". I also have Chinese owners saying "no Singaporeans"....
I think it really boils down to individual preferences. Some folks spent quite a fair bit on reno, so they will be particular down to the most minute of things, not so much as being racist. But yeah, sometimes when words rolled off the tongue unfiltered, may certainly come across pretty bad..
Totally agree. Basically its all about preference
But seriously rubbish Cosy Cribs to say that in Singapore, Chinese owners saying no Singaporeans đ
Preference vs racial bias. Landlords own the place. They decide who to rent out to. They can choose not to rent out as well. Some want to rent to females only, gender bias? Some want to rent out to malaysians only, nationality bias? Some want to rent to ang moh only, foreigner bias? some rent to rich people only, good jobs, stable job, class bias?
All that to me is fine but when it comes to race, cmon la if we all believe that every human being is the same, why race matters
â@@ahmadsolehyn295 yeah but it still hurts for the minority being rejected just because of your skin color.
Dogs and young children is a lifestyle choice, nationality, race, gender is something people are born with cannot change.
Those with gender preferences usually are renting out a room and are still living in the unit, they feel more comfortable sharing the communal toilets/showers with female if they are female landlord, male if they are male landlord. Ok, got some justification.
But if you are just landlord collecting rent from the person, its a commercial transaction, shouldn't discriminate based on nationality, race, gender.
Try and look at a dictionary before equating bias to preference; preference is choosing something amongst otherwise equal options due to specific parameters that are actually based on logic or fact; bias is unfairly eliminating some options (mostly) based on negative assumptions or hearsay. Like that girl saying "Indians pray a lot and consistently"...and burning stuff on the streets and giving everyone breathing problems is better?
@@Naomi-fb1ej Agree with your points, but not the last one. In any commercial transaction/contract, the seller/landlord has every right to turn down any offers and not enter into a commercial contract with the buyer at their discretion. This is perfectly allowable under contract law. Say you want to buy chicken rice, the stall owner has every legal right to refuse to sell to you, to take up your offer, if he/she simply just doesnât like your face and thatâs perfectly legal. Unless there is another law presiding over it like government regulation or separate compliance framework like a tender.
This is one aspect of contract law that not many people know about. Which is, I donât like your face, I am not selling you, we are not going into a commercial contract, full stop.
Their property, their preferences.. just bcos the landlord have their own preferences, dun drag the racial card into play! Disgusting..
I am a landlord myself and conciously not to be biased. I regretted immediately when I rented my apt to XXXX race, as they are already late on their first month rental.
That doesn't seem like an issue of race. Renters of any race can be late for many reasons
@@lincredibleJC I never had late rent collection until I meet XXXX tenant. I will be serving eviction notice soon. Sigh ..
You have contract to protect you on all these. How does it becomes a racial profile?! Rentall delay are not racial thing rather financial thing.
Pretty nonsensical thing to say. Race =/= responsibility. It's a matter of coincidence. Coincidentally your first experience with that race was negative. Does it mean you are entitled to label all tenants of that particular race to be the same. Sorry ah, but you have a shallow, judgmental mindset.
@@SyahmiRosli nonsense it may sound but once bitten twice shine. Not going to lease out to them anymore. I will lose easily 3-4 month of rental as eviction will take time the for legal paperwork to flow and getting police involve to enforce ..
Very subjective issues which can't be used as exclusive conclusion. And also it's up to the landlord. Probably they learned a lot from the previous tenants. We might never know the damage done...
Itâs worst in Europe. Extremely race-ist there and finding a place to rent there if you arenât white is very difficult.
Yet in Asia and everywhere Ang Mohs got praised
im white and had been rejected by chinese and indian and malay so figure that out, here is more racist towards white so don't know where u get praised from, think is you with the racist problem toward a certain race.
I agree with you.
I agree with you.
@@dazblaze04 get off my comments colonizer
@@user-ti5um5ek1t wow, that escalated quickly
As an expat and living alone in SG, I can assure you racial bias in SG rental market do exist. Some landlords are so critical about this. There's also something I can never understand, what's up with all the rentals catered towards females are ALWAYS a lot cheaper than their counterparts? -_-
Females are queen:)
Maybe there's hidden camera in that place that makes money off the 'hidden camera' porn?
Because males can be troublesome to deal with. Females are more responsible and conflict-avoidant
@@Samlowkiapeng1888 funny
@Straight factsđ± sorry but that in female blood alr, male have to learn
Yes. Years ago when we rented out our flat for about 4 years we were repeatedly encouraged by the respective agents NOT to rent out to Indians. It was very blatant. We told them we don't mind any race. The agents' association should ban such advice in all circumstances.
I own the flat, i can choose what type of people i want to rent to and live with me in the same household. Rent to questionable people who drink alcohol, smoke, gamble, allow any visitors to come to the house, borrow money from loan sharks, earn not enough every month late on the rent payment, cannot speak a common language, cannot even read and understand the rental agreement contract, hell why don;t you go rent to such people yourself have a roach in your house then you come here and comment.
Every race have their own culture and lifestyle in their hometown. So..... It hard to change. I did rent out a few time, for twice I need to repaint the whole unit and especially the toilet.
Honestly this shouldnât be even discussed.
Itâs Landlordâs prerogative to rent out their spaces to whomever they choose.
Donât blame Agents , instructions came from the LANDLORDs .
Lamdlords own the property, they should be entitled to some preference, instead of labeling them as bias. One may already not communicate or tolerate the practices of family members, let alone strangers of different cultures. If tenants can choose where they prefer to rent, why cant landlords choose who they prefer to rent to?
If sublet yes these preferences are understandable, but whole unit rental having tolerance is absurd. Landlord not gonna there.
Yea i agree,since they have certain preference to a particular since they own the flat.I dont think this is about biaism or racism since it is about their preferences
Why would a different race/culture bother a landlord since the landlord does not live in the house? As long as the tenant can pay, has a good record, why would race or culture matter?
you need education @tfcheng83
Agree. Its their property. Their rights. Don't need to impose the woke and sjw mindset on this. In malaysia, if you have the nerve to bring this issue up. I think you should address the blatant racial biasness by the government. Public uni 100% admission for the bumi no matter how rotten their results, gov positions 100% for bumi, bumi housing and etc. Even for Singapore, their system is quite fair compared to our government. I feel this issue doesn't correlate well because its their choice. Maybe its because people see it as demeaning but i know couple of friends that rented out their place to indians. Bad experience. They said never again will they make the same mistake.
Short answer is yes, but it is both way also. Malay family also will not rent out to other race.
Maybe some malay families. I know a malay family who rent their house to foreigners.
@@muhammadfahmi7159 Malays are as strict as the Chinese when it comes to renting out rooms or whole units.
The difference is it's their land, they've there for thousand years
It's very difficult to compromise when dollars and cents are involved. For example, the typical Security Deposit amount in renting out the whole property is a month's rent for a 1-year lease, and 2 months' rent for a 2-year lease. Usually, the contract would state that the Security Deposit will be returned between 7 to 30 days after the end of the tenancy period. The cost of a decent spring cleaning is above $1,000 and can go even higher if the kitchen and toilet are not cleaned at least once a week. On top of that, due to a lack of maintenance on the part of the tenant, fixtures, and appliances may be permanently damaged. One or two months' security deposit hardly can cover the cost of the damages if the landlord is unlucky enough to have a tenant from hell. Everybody knows a certain style of cooking produces oily fumes and if not cleaned regularly, the damage to the kitchen is permanant. Besides, how many tenants really abide by the terms of the contract and take good care of the property when they are just renting and it's just temporary housing. Of course, many landlords would want to know the tenant's background before signing the contract.
Then add in the contract that they will be charged accordingly if they don't comply. The point here is assuming somebody is of a certain descent they will do something you don't like before you even get to know them. That's racist. If you're just trying to protect yourself, you don't have to be racist. If you disagree, then you probably are a racist in denial.
@@mayuboeb Do you mean that if you are the landlord you will not do a background check of the potential tenants before you ink the dotted line? The landlord owns the property and he has the right to decide who he wants to rent it to. Besides, he/she may want to move back into their property again so it is not wrong to get the best deal. Stating facts is not in any way racist but having an honest conversation, which seems to be a difficult thing for you if you already are already biased. How much do you think is the cost of having to repair/replace kitchen cabinets and equipment?. Do you think 1-2 months security deposit and 7-30days dateline can resolve the dispute?. Have you have knowledge of the different styles of Asian cooking and how it affects the whole apartment if not cleaned regularly. Normally when the bill is presented, the tenant will suddenly disappear and the landlord will become wiser. So, how is this considered 'racist"?. An honest conversation is the only way forward and you are killing all avenues to this.
Tenants from hell is not a racial stuff any race can have such tenant. Caution deposit is paid to cover the cost and monthly rental is to subsume any wear and tear of property or things inside property.
I know landlords who have like granpa time aircondition which just waits to spoil and tenant gets responsible if it is spoilt in their term?? How tenants are protected then? It is a mutual respect and agreement.
@@harinarayanan3376 Totally agrees with you. That is why it is important to have an honest conversation is important and not to shout "racism" to every issue.
Just how the world works lah! The landlord's are not specifically racist but just want to maximise their interest and avoid issues just like all business people lah...
For example, a Chinese landlord wants a Chinese renter because culture norms are same and easier to talk to or negotiate with.
But I think it does go against papa lee Kuan yews vision of a fair and equal society. But it's hard to enforce.... In the examples, the landlord's are very abrupt and forward with it but most of the time it's subtle and they find excuse to not allow rent to you! The government should step in.....
There is also an issue with the statistics applied to derive conclusion in this video. Why are you only using minorities for the study? Where is the results on Chinese trying to rent from non-Chinese landlords? It gives an impression that minorities are being overwhelmingly suppressed here, without exploring the possibilities of broad-based biasness from all races. There is also a need to account for the fact that majority of Singaporean landlords are Chinese given majority of the population are Chinese. I am getting the vibe that minorities can choose their preferred race whereas Chinese has to be open to all or otherwise called racist? This is almost like reverse discrimination at best.
Maybe mothership thinks all landlords here are chinese?
racial, religion, gender bias and stereotype are common in Singapore. in group bias is a big factors of prejudice and discrimination, and yes this can lead to giving privileges to people of their own kind. honestly, will a chinese attempt to rent a house from a hindi family? or will an hindi prata man employ a chinese to flip prata for him?
If can flip prata then can employ.. there is no reason to not let do unless customers say hey i only want indian prata man to flip..
Food has an undeniable cultural association tied to it. If a person from another race X cooks the race Y's food, some race Y customers will inevitably assume that the result might not be as authentic and would prefer to eat Y cuisine food cooked by a race Y person. Also, one race X cook might not matter as much but a whole restaurant of Y cuisine run by all race X workers, will any race Y people patronise it? However for the cuisine of a faraway country Z, they are unable to find a person of race Z to cook race Z's food. Then any race X or Y will have to do in this case. Then only in this case, X and Y customers wouldn't really care so much because they have no choice.
Just how the world works lah! The landlord's are not specifically racist but just want to maximise their interest and avoid issues just like all business people lah...
For example, a Chinese landlord wants a Chinese renter because culture norms are same and easier to talk to or negotiate with.
But I think it does go against papa lee Kuan yews vision of a fair and equal society. But it's hard to enforce.... In the examples, the landlord's are very abrupt and forward with it but most of the time it's subtle and they find excuse to not allow rent to you! The government should step in.
There is no problem with the system. The problem lies in the individuals. It's like the law prohibits littering, but there are still litterbugs around.
The incense burned by Hindu legit very the strong. I mean sometimes the incense go into our house also we don't want say, just keep the peace and tolerate. If I rent out I also will make the request in the lease term cannot burn incense inside. And right people ought to be educated and clear and not just assume Indian all the same, chinese ought to differentiate that.
Aiya... Mr Prata want to pay $2000 for a 3 Bed room Condo in Orchard . Then rejected - blame it on race preference as lame reason lor
landlords will discriminate when they get to choose. when the landlord has the same offer from an indian, a japanese, a german, who would he choose? same anywhere in the world. rents and prices of property have increased past 3 years from the huge influx of foreigners. what tenants face isn't racism so much as it is a shortage of housing. best MND release more land for housing before ICA/MOM opens the gates.
Good job on the piece. We need to see and talk about this more.. the more we see the reflections of ourselves as a society the more we can reflect on who we want to be as a society.
Just how the world works lah! The landlord's are not specifically racist but just want to maximise their interest and avoid issues just like all business people lah...
For example, a Chinese landlord wants a Chinese renter because culture norms are same and easier to talk to or negotiate with.
But I think it does go against papa lee Kuan yews vision of a fair and equal society. But it's hard to enforce.... In the examples, the landlord's are very abrupt and forward with it but most of the time it's subtle and they find excuse to not allow rent to you! The government should step in.,
Singapore is not multiracial, but homogenous Chinese country
It is acceptable for a landlord to make demands for certain type of tenants because right of ownership is 9/10 of the law. If I decide not to rent my apartment to a certain race that will be socially unacceptable for the area is my option . No law can force me to rent my apartment to anyone i feel will not be good to my well being . Free market policies is a intrinsic right and must not be bound by consumer's rights to enter a contract without consent from the owners. Owners have more rights than tenants as we know HDB have more rights than tenants.
When you demand law to intervene for every stuff in world you will have a unhealthy society with intolerance.
There are somethings morally right and doesnt need a law in the world. This news article is to let us know what is moral not what is law. To know law one can go do google search and find.
Owners will continue to decide whom they wanna rent, but is it morally right or good for a healthy future to have racial prejudice? Only time can answer.
Currently, I am seeking for room to rent. Still surprised to know the best question is what race. Some nice places and willing to pay but mostly wanted Chinese male or female kind. Still having difficulty getting the right place due to this.
the dirtiest tenants I had were Korean/Japanese (both professional) working together in a very BIG US MNC with trillions mkt cap. The house was not cleaned for 2 years during tendancy.
Ang moh also dirty af. Worked in a place with ang mohs briefly(both from "western countries and non western countries) and the pantry is dirty af. The microwave so many of their food bits it's a miracle there isnt a cockroach infestation or smthg. Had to clean it up cos i also need to use.
ćœ»ćșruin all positive image i had about ang mohs.
yup you all are very clean
@@RonLarhz Not surprising. They tend to host house parties quite often and not cleaning up afterwards.
best is BUY YOUR OWN HOUSE
If one has a house to choose who to rent to, and you have a say on this. Are you discriminating one's preferences?
And the discriminated also discriminate other minorities like lgbt or disabled...
Ps: there are also malays that are racist towards chinese.
There are landlords who reject their own race. Racial bias? Personal preference?.....Guess it's gonna base on how the receiver own interpretation.
But this is their house they are renting out. So itâs perfectly fine they choose.
Agreed ! đ
racism is fine. got it
@@tkuz5422 how is this racism? No particular race is put down nor marginalized because of their racial background. Itâs instead the choice of the house owner to accommodate based on their choice. Choice made could even be, based on same cuisine, similar language, possible similar belief systems.
@@slowframeclips2738 Go ahead and Hold up your age old principles of insularity and then cry foul when people point out the problems. Or worse, refer to the minorities who speak up with your favorite phrase : "s**t stirrers"
Some landlords discriminate against families with young children or dogs . This is a personal choice and renting is not retail .
concerns of children and pets are very different from racial prejudice.
They just took another one from reddit again huh?
Aiya... Mr Prata want to pay $2000 for a 3 Bed room Condo in Orchard . Then rejected - blame it on race preference as lame excuse lor
Unless all properties own by government , else every body have bias and this will never end.
There already are rental flats all around SG
Aiya... Mr Prata want to pay $2000 for a 3 Bed room Condo in Orchard . Then rejected - blame it on race preference as a lame reason lor.
Some would argue they have the right to be bias
If you want to talk about discrimination, it is endless! There are landlords not wanting to rent to people with pets, unvaccinated people, university students, large households, families with young kids, working class families etc. Ultimately, landlords just want their tenants to pay their rent on time, property to be well taken care of and returned with as little damage as possible.
But what has any of that got to do with race, though? You do realise that people cannot choose and cannot change their race, right?
This i understand , but not by race please.That is utter stupidity and backwards.
Unless you have a spy cam for 24hr monitoring on your upcoming tenant, you can only bet on statistical data on typical racial lifestyle
I understand, but why race? Why difference in color of skin is auto rejection?
Can you choose to change your race tho? ANSWER US
Yâall say the pledge every morning âregardless of race, language and religionâ⊠Everyone is SG is rich! there are Chinese who are the landlords, Indians who are the landlords and Malays who are landlords as well!
whether you are majority or manority..in the end we are still Human;)
wrong (joke) .. reject tribal thinking. Embrace "individualism" :D
Singapore majority also import. Wanna counter Malaysian bumiputra. Atleast Malaysia majority is true citizen unlike here, import to maintain 75%
@@tokitoyotokitoyo maybe stop giving us an excuse to do so by constantly threatening to cut off water.
The OTT guy seems to be psychic "can enter the unit to check if they feel that the tenant isn't maintaing the unit"...how the f would you know? And that is intrusion and goes against the quiet enjoyment clause in the same contract, dumdum
It's also quite difficult to rent a single room as a single guy - even if one is Chinese :/
I want to share my personal experience. I recently went house hunting. Saw at least 100 houses. The 2 houses I really liked had Chinese owners. The 80 over houses that were in horrendous condition also had Chinese owners. Hence it always amazes me when owners discriminate against minorities over hygiene reasons. The reality is quite different. Pure racism seems more the reason in my opinion
Just how the world works lah! The landlord's are not specifically racist but just want to maximise their interest and avoid issues just like all business people lah...
For example, a Chinese landlord wants a Chinese renter because culture norms are same and easier to talk to or negotiate with.
But I think it does go against papa lee Kuan yews vision of a fair and equal society. But it's hard to enforce.... In the examples, the landlord's are very abrupt and forward with it but most of the time it's subtle and they find excuse to not allow rent to you! The government should step in.
Do not rent other people's house to stole identity or tag along houseowner's job or daughter. we got different race people pretend as landlord/houseowner by sending a fake letters or committing crime using other people's address.
Those career criminals who stole identity and attempt to rape or molest homeowners' daughters are mostly PRC and Myanmar renters. Several relatives of mine faced the same incident in the past so they take it as lesson learnt.
cock one la, the government also practice this what. I want buy BTO flat then when queue till my turn they say quota for chinese is full. THIS NOT RACIST?
Aiya... Mr Prata want to pay $2000 for a 3 Bed room Condo in Orchard . Then rejected - blame it on race preference as lame excuse lor
Racist !
Thank you for covering this mothership!
So unfortunate this happens in 2021... Hope those people educate themselves about racial harmony
Some landlords are not very open minded. They view indians as not so clean cos they cook alot of curry. They view malays as low income group.
Some also feel that there are people who are not clean cos they cook lot of pork, turtle soup, snake soup, fried grasshoppers/worm...
Yeap.. its is prejudicial racial idea from old Singapore. They still stuck in past and dont want to believe in the changed world. Just give time as no one is immortal and new generation with open mind replace them in face of earth.
Actually there are more younger Malays in Singapore having decent pay job than the Chinese these days (at least $4k/mth) but the older generations Chinese folks can't bear to accept the truth. That's why discrimination still exists in Singapore unless all the old Chinese folks meet their maker.
one can say they are tolerant until grey areas like these come up
I experiencing gender discrimination when I am trying to rent a room and no one talk about it.
I think cause gender discrimination exists everywhere( which is quite sad honestly ) but racial discrimination is a more highlighted issue in Singapore since we are more focused on racial harmony. Good luck with renting a room though.
@@deweshgoenka6111 so we should accept it since gender discrimination exists everywhere? what happened to fighting for equal pay and equal rights?
@@BeliaLove well first of all no we should not accept it. Secondly, this issue cannot be resolved like in a flash so it takes time to find a solution. What I'm saying is that racial harmony is one of the crucial factors of Singapore otherwise tensions might arise between people and well, look at whats happening. Gender discrimination existed for quite a lot of time but this is Singapore. The authorities will help make sure that this does not happen and maybe record meetings or conversations if you want a back up plan in case you are discriminated
@@BeliaLove one problem at a time. Can't just solve everything at once
@@deweshgoenka6111 thank you, that's all I needed to know, which is we should not accept any form of discrimination just because it's everywhere. I agree that racial discrimination lead to heightened racial tensions especially in a multiracial country like Singapore.
Is Singapore still stuck in the 1800s?
simple, buy your own home. if not, pay higher rent 20-30% more and down higher security deposit.
Its really sad to be discriminated in your own country
Happens everywhere
It will never be a racial bias not until your race be the the 1st class citizen...
Hmm, if it's me, I probably have my own reason to not rent to certain races but definitely not due to their cuisine. More towards their culture and our beliefs that collide.
Yes correct! I agreed with your statement!
I have high respect for inter racial couple and people who adopted children of other races. You can see lot of these cases in the internet.
I am actually quite surprised that such racial problem still existed in Singapore.
I am a chinese, years back I went with 3 indian colleagues for Jalan Jalan and makan in Malaysia. Everyone there seemed to be looking at us. I think it quite rare that time to see people of different races getting together.
I don't think Singaporean discriminate other races.
Rental flat owner they prefer people of the same race. Partly because of life style and one day they may want use the place again. They don't want a lot of change done to the home.
They own the flat, they have the right to choose.
Now, look at people who are selling their apartment. They are not biased on race as long as the price is right. Handshake the deal is sealed.
To illustrate this point further, a mother who like cleanliness but the children does not take care of their rooms. So mother got tired of it started to lecture the children.
It doesn't mean that the mother dislike her children but rather because the children does not keep the place clean.
I heard years back, govt set quota for flats too. I wonder whether such things exists today.
In employment, it should be alright to state the language expectation rather than wasting each other time for the interview.
If the shop client are mainly elderly chinese. The boss would prefer chinese speaking. If a malay or indian can speak chinese I think the boss will be happy too. Sometimes it is not the language that it important other behaviour traits will attribute to the success of interview
Let's be fair things are not that bad.
Very well said đ
Am in agreement with you but many people also get confused between outright racism and stating facts. For example, the style of cooking every day will permanently damage the property if the kitchen is not suited for it and not clean/maintained regularly. How many tenants are responsible enough or can afford a part-time helper to do the job. When security deposits cannot cover the cost of damage, the situation gets ugly. An if the landlord brings up such an issue with the potential tenant, the tenant will accuse the landlord of being a racist. So how do we resolve this?.
Lol the interracial couple seems racist themselves felt bad for them at first but not anymore
Sad to see the natives are being racially discriminated
They are asking for the repeat of 1964 and 1969. This chinese may laugh now, the time will come
I am currently experiencing this bias, 4 out 5 house , I enquired.. I received response as We don't prefer Indians, Irony is we hardly cook at home..
yeah the ones at my house last time said the same thing.."oh we don't cook".. and then blasting the kitchen with curry everyday.. worse thing was they didn't clean properly after. If confronted they say, "we don't know"
@@SiD19884 Unfortunate to hear your experience. May be the terms and conditions can be discussed and agreed before and also there is 2 weeks to 1 month of buffer before settling the secure deposit. Deduct fairly.
At the end of the day, It is your house , you can do whatever you want. Just because of one family, Generalizing entire community is the clear definition of bias with lame excuses of curry smell. Also there are local favorites which has curry too like curry noodles, prata with curry etc and more fried and oily stuff, which we dont eat much.
Anyways, you are judging the community based on your 1 or 2 experience while I am only acknowledging my experience in house hunting. No hard feelings.
Take care bro. God bless you and your family. Have a good day.
@@SiD19884 good excuse
Singaporean Chinese tend to forget that the reason they are independent because Lee Kuan Yew wanted equality and meritocracy. But today they are the most racist people in ASEAN. LKY will be turning in his grave.
Singapore needs to legislate renting and allow renters to sue landlords who refuse to rent to other races. A centralized rental system should be run by the Government. A small Island City State like Singapore cannot permit free market racist actions. It destroys the cohesiveness of Singapore. Landlords in Singapore MUST be subject to the law, not their preference. Rental properties should be decided by the an anonymously setup renting system where the landlord and renter do not know each other but have legal obligations that the Government can forcibly enforce.
Agents are just as racist. If this is what Singaporean Chinese want, then its better to rejoin Malaysia and let the Malays rule over them.
Now then you know the reasons why the Malays bashed the chinese back in 1964 in singapore and 1969 in KL?
Landlords are generally not racist, it is not about race but more on personal hygiene, housekeeping culture, type of food preparations and religious practices/rituals of the tenants. Landlords don't want different deity pics/statues to co-exist in the same house (includes praying rituals that have scent or noises); they don't want their alcoholic beverages, pet dog or pork/beef food/preparations causing discomforts to the tenant that's sensitive to those things. Landlords don't want to take the risk of body odour/soiled clothes smells that linger the whole house and are absorbed well into the concrete walls for long-lasting "fragrance", this also applies to the type of dishes the tenant prepares. By experience, it is not race but the person's personal & social responsibility, personality & domestic behaviour when they are in a rented place. The stats speak up of persons of such race groups that usually tend to have these issues and landlords are avoiding facing the issues beforehand. Some landlords are kind enough to do let in first and address the issues later if arises. An experienced landlord knows the race is not the factor, but the person itself. A wise landlord would invite for sightseeing of his unit and at the same assess the tenants' by impression and presentation. Even this method is not foolproof as some are very well articulated and neat when in front of others but only god knows what a living pest domestically he/she is within the 4 walls. Nowadays, landlords are picky as they are playing safe. On the Eastern side, some only target air stewardesses!
Buddhist people actually canât eat any meat but nowadays many Buddhist arenât as practicing anymore. Buddhism is originally from India like Hinduism and Sikhism. Taoism is from China.
Dood, ikr... alot of chinese dont even know what's what. They just blindly follow prev generations(like all religions do).
I'm chinese but was "woke" since a kid. Also when u watch journey to the west and it doesn't make sense to still eat meat.
And please don't be overly sensitive and mix up preferences with racial profiling or prejudice. Sometimes owners are just too afraid to take chances anymore after some bad experiences in the past.
Honestly why are people making such a big fuss about racial issue? This has been going on for generations or centuries, there will always be stereotypes, bias etc. Everyone will definitely have such encounters in their life regardless of the country they are living in or whatever race they are. Malay, Chinese, Indian or other races. Anyone can be racist, it's just minorities vs the majority at the end of the day. To ask the majority of chinese in Singapore to be accommodating towards other race is highly unlikely, there will definitely be chinese being biased against a certain race. Just like going to school, tell me how often do you see a group of malay hanging out with another chinese? Malay may be the minority but they can be racist too, the majority can't speak up sometimes because of racial issues like this. At the end of the day, it's just a never-ending argument and i heard from my schoolmates that even indian hates indian themselves. so ? đ€·ââïžđ€·ââïž
many of you are very shifty and crafty in hiding your racism. thats why it has been so difficult to point out the obnoxious treatment we get from you as minorities, and its easy for you to chastise people like Sangeetha Thanapal and act like you all are virtuous and free of sin. well done
@T Kumar Watch Rush Hour, there are implied racism everywhere. But we can't say or 'joke' about such things anymore because people will get cancelled or called out for it. 'Racism' is literally ingrained in us. I was 'bullied' for looking different from other races since elementary/primary school and I didnt take it to heart but just know if people pick on someone for looking/being different, they have to accept the truth when it happens to them too. People are too sensitive nowadays and make everything a big hoohah
@@kennethmajorSG now you are making a big hoo hah about 'getting cancelled'
Fk that beautiful smart Indian man is really doing charity work
The question is, why?
Just put a penalty clause for damages and pass a law which makes this illegal. This is ridiculous in 2021 that this happens not just in renting but also in the employment market
That's too lenient. I may have to disagree with you.
Actually, the Singapore Government should be blamed for not passing a harsher bill to condemn racist individuals. The best punishment methods for those racist people is not just jail term.
The Singapore Government should:
1. Revise / amend Section 55 of the Penal Code to include suspects who have ill intent to wound the racial harmony in Singapore.
2. Issue warrant of arrest for the racist individuals to be detained indefinitely (without trial if necessary) at a secluded location with maximum security.
3. If convicted in court for inciting hatred towards other races or religions, the offender must be made mandatory to surrender his/her passport and permanently banned from leaving the country.
4. The offender is required to broadcast an international apology (live video) to the race(s) or religion(s) he/she had insulted.
5. Singapore Government must register the convicted in the criminal system as both "traitor" and "enemy of the state", stripping his/her citizenship, regardless of whether he/she was born and bred here in Singapore.
The above punishments will allow the racist people dwelling in Singapore to reflect back their heinous crimes done.
Senior citizens are super difficult to rent
Great job mothership!
Even in car rental markets too.
Tenants can pick houses they wan to stay and landlords can choose the tenants they want to rent. It is fair and square deals !
Wow. You're comparing a building with humans and say fair and square!
so you make the rules Jessica?
you are no different from this channel which is trying to silence voices. all my comments that I typed in reply to the Slow Frame Clips guy was deleted I wonder why. And I wonder who is in control...
As many have commented. It is not a racial bias, and we could have a list of what we think are not desirable tenants. Why? Mostly due to experience. You could balance the docu entertainment with talking to agents and to understand the other side -- economic reasons -- better
many people in singapore are very shifty and crafty in hiding their racism. thats why it has been so difficult to point out the obnoxious treatment minorities get and its easy for you people to chastise people like Sangeetha Thanapal and act like you all are virtuous and free of sin. well done
@@tkuz5422 No. I get shit when I praise Indians over Chinese as being able to be climb to the top (CEOs) and this is due to capability and not snake talking. My daughter's best friend when little was an Indian girl. Her friends remain multi racial with one staying with us due to parents issue. Some Indian Landlords may have have bias against Indians too for their condos. This is an economic issue. We have rented out to Indians.
@@mark-mh6pz ok and why do you get shit for that? and if many people of the majority race do it, doesn't it mimic a system of persistent discrimination against minorities? and why do you (you as in not you personally ,but people of the majority race) scold minorities for 'being sensitive' when they want this to be addressed?
@@tkuz5422 this about rental market. your perceived hurt or injustice will grasp as whatever straws to make your point.
@@mark-mh6pz the fact that you choose to use the word 'perceived' shows just how ignorant and apathetic you are, its not just you its just a common trait among the insular majority ethnic group here. Unsurprisingly, many minorities cannot be friends with the majority group here because of the latter's
attitudes
SJW here will only talk big. When they are renting out 99% they are the one with "preferences". Then when they are being called out they will say it's their property and its their freedom of choice.
The inter racial couple in end also admitted they have preferences when renting out even though they faced "preferences" difficulty when they were looking for a unit to rent.
Hardcore racist wonât change. Itâs better to rent from landlord who can accept you. I wish all racist face the same ordeal so that they know how it feels to be treated negatively
So much Chinese bashing these days.
And still is. Till forever, other races have grudge against the chinese race for lying since 1965 after getting kicked out of Malaysia. If we knew, we would have rallied and bashed the chinese in the 60s and stay in Malaysia instead
answer? No. Singapore not Malaysia or USA. everyone have to prove themselves
Singapore government need to fix this problem. Since many aren't willing to rent out to certain ethnic group. Perhaps the government can have reserve some property to rent out to Indians.
How many of your chinese majority were imports? Without imports the demographic would have been different. If you are boasting about multiracial why the need to artificially maintain the 75% majority? Insecure of your Malay majoritu neighbours? Meaning thats the end of the chinese political mafia in SG?
Your property your rules. Simple end of story.
Rental is nightmare, especially if you are sgporean, single and homeless. But, even then cannot ask people who own the property to not have preferences.
It's the government's duty to alleviate the housing market and allow rental market to singles who are singaporean, i mean they can give rental to everyone but single working adults who can pay for a one room flat with no need for subsidies.
But then we are forced to look around outside. So cannot blame the landlords, their house their rules, we also cannot ask them to be punished for having racial preference. The right questions to ask is, why aren't government rental places out there for singles?
Is it must to have a child out of wedlock, under government help and a drug addiction to qualify for rentals?
racism is preference?
I feel this vid is biased as well. Perhaps u interview those "undesirable" indians/chinese n u shd see a more realistic result. I still however, do agree there is a racial bias when flat renting.
You speak too fast.
I like how the landlords are playing victim lmao
I would say all racist are slaves..i was denied then when i offered more money i was considered. But i turn down the offer saying i m not interested anymore. Hope u got my point
The causality of racial bias boils down to simple supply and demand. The rental market at the moment is strong and Landlords have confidence that they can get the tenant profile most suited to their preference. If vacancy rates are high, we will definitely hear less about these occurrences as the upkeep for owning a house for investment is quite high if u consider the loan interest, maintenance, and conservancy fees.
I understand that tenants may feel discriminated but I feel they should not take it personally and instead start their home search early (3-4 months in advance of move-in).
In countries like the US, there are laws that allow landlords to require the tenant to provide them even more stringent checks such as their monthly income, criminal history, credit check even past landlord's testimonials of the tenant. In Singapore, our checks are more for regulatory purposes such as complying with applicable laws for entering and staying in Singapore. Landlords here typically do not ask how much u make but will make an assumption based on the job u declare.
My advice to Landlords is to see renting out of your house as a business and like every other business, there will be unforeseen expenses such as cleaning and restoration. There is no hard and fast in selecting the perfect tenant who will take care of your house as if it's their own. Factor in fair wear and tear over the time period u intent to rent out and do not be too stingy on trivial matters which can be resolved at reasonable cost in comparison to what u stand to receive in rental income in long run.
Itâs not racism landlords and agents call it âpreferenceâ
i am chinese and i love my indian tenants
You are still majority, that what thrives Singapore to be on top of Asia. đđđ
@@harinarayanan3376 what the fuck?
If you're renting out your property but you live somewhere else, you shouldn't have any preferences. There's nothing affecting you. If you're afraid of curry smell staying permanently, that's an easy fix. Smell don't last forever. There's alot of solution for curry smell that can be fixed in one day.
If you're living in the same space as the renter, it's okay to have preferences. In the end, you are living in the same space with different lifestyle. However, do not judge their lifestyle through their race. Ask them specifically if have those lifestyle.
It's affects future sales or when u old and decide to move back and find it in shit condition.
Grow up guys. Landlord choose their tenants. Period.
Tibbish using it as an excuse
curry issues man wtf?
Ikr. I don't know why Chinese hate Indian food so much that they don't allow them to rent their unit. There is no doubt Indian food is the best
Racism in Singapore is very light compare to many others countries
Because the punishments are severe, there are alot of racist people who are just afraid to voice out their views in Singapore
@@megafarihinable That is much better than neighboring countries right? Where racism prominent
@@malakatan3235 In Malaysia, if you wear songkok at wrong angle, you can be shouted at and beaten. Don't play around in Malaysia. Especially JB and Kedah.
you are not the one suffering from it so logically you don't get to make the assessment?
@@tkuz5422 I didn't make assessment, you can see it in world ranking đ
I thought HDB should put a clause, that if landlord doesnât want rent out HDB to local Singaporean, the landlord goes to jail.
Chinese people is the best if you not happy then go to Malaysia
Singapore don't belong to Chinese in the first place. I'm Chinese born and raised here in Singapore. Go read some history books in the national library.
why not you go back to chyna
Even chinese ppl in singapore imported in from Malaysia. Dont worry, 1969 will be repeated and u know where u stand chinkđ
It should be illegal for landlords or businesses to ask for vaccination status or race or sexuality. I donât want discrimination. Maybe if they do not like their culture, they can set rules like not to do certain things at their home, but they shouldnât be denied just because of an assumption that their race is very unhygienic.
You obvi never rent out things b4
Low education man like me can also think on this video- its a Landlord market in this Covid 19 era. What make a big fuss if you cannot rent due to your skin color- be mindful that if your budget is $3500 vs landlord $4000 expectation, then Mr Prata blame it on skin colour preference? Whats the real reason in here crying wolf?