I QUIT Gimbals For 2 Months To Use This (SYRP Magic Carpet Pro)
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Are gimbals any better than sliders? Heres what it's ACTUALLY like using a slider for music video!
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What stabilizers are you guys using for projects? Comment below!
none. I have no projects.
Glidecam DGS
No real projects but still honing my crane 2 and tryna build my shoulder rig. Coming soon
Dana Dolly...
Zhiyun Crane 2.0
I'm so glad you made this video because so many people have stopped using sliders or feel there's no need for a slider in 2019. It's kinda like being at a zoo each animal is different, each has their own characteristics Sliders, Jibs, Tracks, gimbals they all have great value and their different animals but their all needed at certain times. I love sliders and would never stop using them. Great work YCImaging love this .
I’m loving the new consistency of videos on your channel 🙌🏾
I love my slider, the one drawback is coverage, it’s like once you get the “keeper take” you have to be very aware to purposely move positions very often or else in post it’s like “all of this footage looks too similar and can’t use 5 shots that look the same in the edit” if you don’t move the slider around the room enough
Bro your production is getting CRAZY! I love seeing your improvements. Very subtle tweaks that you you make which enhance your video exorbitantly. Your compositions game is getting stronger and stronger. Keep providing that fuel ⛽️ for us around the Globe 🌎
You can give me your gimbals if you don’t want them 😂😂😌
Shqipe?
So many reviews of gimbals vs gimbals but your comparison of gimbal vs slider is so needed and has got me thinking about the pros and cons of each for my use cases. Mobile vs static; 3 dimensions vs 2; etc...
You're getting the best looking images out of the a7iii over anyone on youtube. A real soft, filmic look with beautiful colour grades.
Thanks, I appreciate that.
nah I always use my slider, it's more used than my glide cam. sliders are key to great movement. way more precise than a Gimbal. great video man.
In regards to its ability to mount to multiple points (preferred over a center mount on a tripod): go to Modern Studio Equipment and pick up two “junior male to female 3/8” pins” and thread them up from bottom, this allows you to mount the rig into two combo stands (more stable, I use this rig with full cinema cam builds and it’s solid).
Great video, appreciate you sharing.
I just got paid and splurged on your store. I appreciate creators who are here to help other creators. Keep it up man helping me keep my head up and stick with this goal of mine for videography even though I have full-time school and being pulling OT at work. Seriously don't stop creating, thank you for your content!
I think you kind of right. I don't think sliders are less common, I just think there's a huge saturation of gimbals.
A slider was the first "real" piece of equipment I bought some years ago now. I love it!!! :-)
You touched on it a bit, but sliders and especially dolly's take a lot of space and time to setup. If I have the time and budget I don't mind, but when it's run and gun time I'll shoot handheld or with a gimbal.
Man your production level is through the roof with the easiest methods. DOPE as always. I wanna collab someday, bro.
Thanks for that! I use a Syrp system for video and time-lapse and am pretty pleased with it. I also use a gimbal. You're right its certainly horses for courses - and the slider DOES reduce back ache!!! Cheers, Charles
I noticed some of your videos have been extra smooth. Def going to get this for my production!
Always wanted a slider, its just not smart for me to purchase one at the moment. And I don't wanna go the cheap route with one. Locked down tripod shot and keyframe in post will do until then, I know its not the same but it still looks okay for the music videos I do right now. Solid video YC.
How did you program the LED light to flicker? So cool!!! :)
Aputure 120d mkii can do this.
Hey bro!! Would you be able to do a video going over art direction or even set up? I find it insanely helpful to see you make videos of what’s used behind the camera, but I would love to see what you do when it comes to what goes on in front of the camera. The direction and color pallet is honestly insane!! I hope you could respond to this and give me your thoughts!!
Been using the Edelkrone motorized slider system for several years now and absolutely love it. Sliders are not dead.
I have a shoot tonight that is several different performers in the same setup. I hired a dolly for the first time in ages for exactly the reasons you mention: accuracy and repeatabilty that I would not be able to achieve with my gimbal.
Bro I been thinking about this very same thing. I just bought a Kessler crane pocket dolly on eBay used for cheap. You can get them for the low used. I retrofit 7.5lbs of barbell weights on the crank wheel and use it as a flywheel that creates a bunch of inertia which = super smooth movement.
Your colors are SO good!
Totally agree. I have a Ronin M and a Harrope S1 slider. I used it for still life, products and some B roll of the facilities of a wine shop. Also, I shot B roll for a music video for which I built a little cyclorama, and wanted to recreate a dolly movement to film little objects against a white background, and also, for a location that was very small. I also attached the ronin arm to the carriage and I can control it from the remote.
Nice video. I've got the iFootage Shark and Edelkrone Slider Plus. I really enjoy doing parallax movements (slowly rotating camera to keep subject centered while moving camera down rails), but it's super hard to do smoothly manually. That's why I've toyed with the idea of getting a motor. But like you say, all that setup time!
Never got to ride the dolly. forbidden for sound department haha. I do have a slider, but it gets a lot less use than the gimbal. But you have a solid point about precision.
I sold my Ronin-M and went back to using my cheap slider too - I couldn't deal with the whole stand issue and would get super tired after all day shoots. Enjoyed the film and gonna have to try out a slider with a fly wheel now
Sliders imo are very underrated. Awesome video Chris
Hey bro could you please do a video on the light flickering set up. Thanks
I think generally a lot of people think about gimbals as the new version of a dolly because in the mind they imagine tracks and a big dolly and the whole setup being so old and cumbersome. But nothing superseded one or the other. They are all tools. It's easy to get used to using something and be complacent with your workflow, but understanding certain tools' benefits and being skilled at using any of them will allow you to tell stories and create much more striking and unique imagery. Gotta be versatile and try new things and combinations of things. 👍💪
Thank you for you informative videos; I've never used one. I primarily shoot for social media, and while I do use a gimbal, this topic interest me. Thank you!
For me it became pretty simple: for small movements, non-walking, macro or really close shots I use a slider, for walking shots, wide shots and bigger movements I use the gimbal... There is space for both, you just have to know when to better use each...
I'm new to film making YC so I'm learning everyday bro. Thanks for the videos man
Killing em with the consistency right now!
7:29 this shot is magical. Did he perform to the music on 2x and you shot high framerate or what is going on here? looks amazing!
I actually want the Syrp Magic Carper Pro Slider too.
But its a lot of money for it! One of the more expensive ones, but it is a great slider.
Gimbals and sliders give off a different look
I just love the way you say 'slider'. Slaaaader. So cool.
I have the Edelkrone SliderOne Pro and it's pretty awesome, but i have to say I kinda want a longer slider
Yeah I feel you! Being able to extend the slider is so clutch
YCImaging have you used the motorized rhino slider setup or the edelkrone setups? I’ve had my eyes on those but boy they get expensive
I have both a manual slider and Ronin M for my 5D MKIV, and to be completely honest the Ronin is soooo muchhhh workkkkk. I literally dread it because I know it just drains me and my back, but the smooth shots are so worth it. The slider I would use more, but I can see small bumps as I slide down the rail or I see movement speed inconsistencies which are hard to replicate at the same speed for each shots
If you ever get to use a Chapman Dolly, its gonna blow your mind. But dolly's and sliders definitely give you a high level of precision with movement. I'm loving your videos man, keep up the great work!
I like the scene you created with the newspapers on the wall. Can you do a video giving away music video ideas like this? It would be awesome to create sets like this for our videos.
i actually used a slider for my shoot last night, did a shot in the stair well and it took minimal effort compared to handheld in the stairs, im only using the neewer slider and its a god budget slider if anyone is looking for one, i think it was 100$ or less but i recommend having a good tripod head to mount on it
Currently maxing out a crane v2 with the a7iii.
I couldn’t live without my motorized slider. For timelapses & filming myself it’s fire. However as you mentioned the setup time is a bit much.
I love Syrp. I have the magic carpet cf and the genie ii linear pan/tilt. I used to ride with Konova but they fell off (no apps for motion control).
Watching this video an odea came up in my mind. If instead of using a tripod to hold the slider someone hold it with hands? Could be something different?
I'm imagining a smooth zoom while the cam looks handheld for example
I can see where you say a gimbals are cheap. This slider is pricey AF.
What's good YC, I've never use a slider before but now I think I have to get me one cause I feel like I'm loosing my cool by just using my Crane Plus most of the time, I feel like I need to go back to more handheld, tripod shots and also introduce a slider to my production. Thanks for the great video and as always you adding Game to my Game bro!!!✊💯👑
Looks so smooth and no bob or wiggles. Great work man!
I just shot a music video a month ago all on a slider and a tripod. I use my gimbal about 50% of the time, and mainly for my super wide shots when I need to get around alot. Many people's stuff is looking the same. All head shots, upper torso shots, not enough wide angle stuff, not enough close up, no treatments. Alot are hiding the cinematography with trippy effects. To each his own.
For one of my music videos I was filming in a fairly small room in my apartment. We had a set ready and everything. I wanted to make some movement but I was using my gimbal and you're spot on about the enclosed space thing. That's one of those situations where having a slider would have been perfect. It would have saved a lot of pain in my back. Also going back into editing a lot of the footage looked like trash because there was inconsistent shake and it sucked. Gotta make some mistakes to learn!
can we get a light set up rundown on the video
Coming soon!
I see that low key Backboard flex in the thumbnail 🤫
I had been saving up for a Kessler Cine Slider but this model might be the way I go after having seen this. Thanks man!
I used to have a slider but actually once gimbals came out I sold the slider cuz it's too heavy and huge to carry around. But actually, even with a gimbal ou jus can't always get the exact smoothness of a slider
You can always change lenses with a slider or a tripod. Gimbals are great for very short multiple clips i reckon.
What made you decide to get the giant pro model with the 70 pound weight limit VS the smaller and lighter regular Magic Carpet or Carbon Fiber models with the 11 pound weight limit? I intend to use this with a DSLR and notice you shoot with DSLR too. Just curious...
Future proof.
He might venture into cinema cameras which are heavier than DSLRs or mirror less cameras.
A7iii isn’t DSLR btw it’s mirrorless.
Great points, thank you for bringing this info to light...awesome advice. I have used sliders, and I just got a Glidecam Style stabilizer for some Real Estate videos I will be doing, just practicing for now. But yeah, gets heavy after a while.
Have you tried edelkrone sliders? Can use them manually, can use them motorized, they extend pretty long and its lightweight.
I’ll have to check them out.
I wasn't planning on spending a grand on a slider today, but here I am. With one sitting in my Amazon cart
You not
Love the video. You really speak the common sense bro. Thanks for always looking for the next thing because that change is what makes this channel evolve.
Please do a breakdown of this Keese music video with the newspapers. Dope idea!! dope flickering lighting too!!!
If good stabilizers came down in price I would get one.... a motion control gimbal can be twice the cost as a gimbal....where a gimbal is more versatile...
I have wanted a slider for a while, but a nice one is currently out of budget :/
Bounced from Casey - This dude is on POINT!
i never used a slider because of the prices of a good one. I was never sure if id use it enough to justify the purchase. On the flipside i always was unsure if the $100 sliders where any good lol.
Thanks man...this totally got me amped. I’m a one man band. Is it wrong to set the motorized slider on a loop (AF lock) while I run the gimble shots. I’ve been trying to do more with less takes. Being I’m running everything it’s a bit crazy but I feel good. I like sliders now that I have one. Your channel makes me want to get going with showing off my work on CZcams. I guess having 3 accounts will do it to you. Cleaning out my closet lol thx bro
I think given the choice between a gimbal and slider most are still going to go for the gimbal. It can do everything a slider can plus a lot more. Like you said, maybe not as perfectly, but close enough.
im new as of yesterday and i watched a couple of your videos and literally 3 days ago i found a used slider and im so glad i followed u to see this video becuz now i see why people use them. thanks
I use my slider and my glide cam but I'm about to ditch that setup and switch to a gimbal & wheelchair combo aka poor mans doorway dolly , either that or I could learn how to ride a hoverboard, I've seen a guy on IG who does it and he's a beast with it
Got a question for you bro, have you used a dana dolly? You can get as long of rails as you like. Not the most portable thing, but it's definitely the industry standard for slider shots.
GOAT!!!!!! Also what did you do to your hand?
Dope video as always YC! I still have my slider, they have their purpose, I should really do a video on my channel about it. Gimbals are good, but sliders won't give you that up and down motion you get from gimbals. I need a motorized slider, that would be dope!
Never used a slider, because I’m into wedding filmmaking. Not enough time to setup sliders and too much weight like you said
I love my slider, I def want to get a motorized slider but im am with you on trying different things, and dope video
I never used one bc I thought it was a tool moreso for cinema projects. Not saying that you can’t or shouldn’t use them for music videos bc the look it’s giving is fire, it’s just not common, so it never crossed my mind until recently
I see your not using the gh5 much for your work and changed over to sony for that autofocus. Ive been thinking about that also because with constant moving shots its def easier having that autofocus.
Awesome work in general! For this slider when you want to use the longer rails, what tripods do you use?! Thanks!
How about mounting a slider on gimbal? Pan while you slide.
I didn't used a slider at all in my projects but I will in my next project.
Found your channel last week because I was debating on getting the Gh5 or the A7III since I’m getting into music video shoots. Needless to say, I love your channel man! #notificationsquad
That Keese video is looking CRAZY!
Awesome man!!😍
Ai have never used a slider, but I'm looking to find the right one. Just moved up to a Canon 7Dii also and looking to try new things .
LIFX beam on your back wall in green? What light is that. And yes I need to invest in a slider. Love the gimbal too tho but the slide gives a different look and feel
Yeah! Love it
Man I just picked one up myself and yes it’s so dope!!!
What is the best way to get in contact with you?
Pray.. 😂
Do you have any music videos on your channel now that was shot with only the slider and handheld??
Love ur tricks bro
I have a small rat rig slider - works a treat.
What are some good tripod stands for this?
Great video!! What size is the bowl? Looks like 100mm, but what if you have from OConnor head or similar 120mm.
very true bro! is that a sigma 24 1.4?
I've been looking for a slider but didnt know which one to buy this one seems legit
Bro, what's the glove for? Grip?
Lol he said gimbals are cheap aha. That thing costs 650 mucho dinero quey!!! But I feel you though. I never heard of this particular slider! I’ve heard of the rhino though my friend has one.
Just checked out the price of the slider it’s almost 2k 0.0
mundoray it’s cool though that you can potentially add a red on it. Never used on though yet
I don’t have a slider but may need to invest in one.
I am mostly shooting with the A6400 (video) considering going to A73 in the near future, which gimbal out of all the ones you tried would you recommend?
Crane plus by Zhiyun
I gotta grab one 😈
Bro I'd love to see you throw yourself deep into a narrative, story led music video. It would be sick to see you document that process
I wouldn't simply move to another piece of equipment because it's trendy or being abused. It's all about motivated camera movements, and utilizing those tools to achieve the image you're going for. Remember, the camera dictates how the viewer feels when watching.
Still using a slider along with the ronin-m.