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some people don't believe in gods but are perfectly willing to make gods of ordinary human beings
@paulgarcia450 That’s a tasty quote you spoke!
@@angelcoyote9802 Try this one: The great creators are always hated by those who cling to great creations; they honor idols on the hearth, and lock the door to gods who walk.
Anyone with any attention span at all, is a worshipper of gods.
I experienced this weird religious blindness first hand. I was called a liar and delusional and was thrown out of an Orthodox Christian monastery on the street to be homeless after being sexually assaulted by the abbot. Egotistically holding onto beliefs whether they are traditional religious beliefs or beliefs about a person can cause a lot of harm.
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You just thinking that, it's just a your imagination nothing more than that. Even body language can't refers which you speaking here. We know limit of culture and physical boundary, In familiar case, playing with child and go to close and kiss them, it can not break any boundary. If you are still not satisfied in this incident please you can take a flight ticket and land in India then meet the little boy and retake his statement and then proceed the case in the court. I will satisfy with your steps. But why are you speaking&viraling here in social media? The boy said after met with HH,"It's a great experience meeting someone with high energy. It's a nice feeling meeting him, And you get a lot of positive energy. it's not just that, once you get positive energy, it's a better thing, and you smile a lot more, It was really god experience."
The boy's mother said "Im Dr.Payal Kanodia Trustee M3M Foundation. We've been working in dharmshala on this skill centre which we started last year and since then we were looking at seeking blessing from HH. And you know... Today we got this opportunity, especially my family was there with me... We are totally totally blessed to have got this blessing from HH. He came, addressed us in the person, and taught us about peace that the world needs and how everyone needs to feel together like brothers and sisters. I absolutely cannot express how I feel getting blessed by him."
Show me the tongue sucking video clips. That was not HH commandment.
Buddhism teaches various ways to behave and talk with people, It's also a compassionate philosophy or way of life, laugh and happiness is also part of buddhism. /Laughing Buddha/
That was little boy, not a young man. So HH behaving like childish. There is not single way to behave compassionately/(Kaarunik),itself a huge scope. HH's apology is just for peace and patience. If HH speak more even people will criticize Him. Then He apologized and stay silent. 'Stay silent' is also teaching of Buddha. Dhammapada (227)
O Atula! Indeed, this is an ancient practice, not one only of today: they blame those who remain silent, they blame those who speak much, they blame those who speak in moderation. There is none in the world who is not blamed.
He apologized it means not that HH is guilty. HH's apology was just for maintain peace and patience. It clearly says in His apology. HH's intention was not to harm or abuse the little boy. Just there is bit a misunderstanding in some people's mind. When we see and observe with right mentality..there is no way to feel bad.
"Every kiss is not disturbing or abusive or sexual__ Kiss of brotherhood,kiss of compassion kiss of friendship"
You should actually listen to what Brad said in his video. He wasn't talking about the issue with the little boy other than to say he didn't think it was an issue. Listen to what he actually said.
To be clear, I think the tongue thing is an innocent cultural thing. My point was about people who will defend religious leaders to the death instead of being reasonable.
The Dalai Lama is obviously an icon of the media, so is clearly part of the elite "actors" (an advocate of the 💉💉🤦🏻♀). Probably pedophile. He just slipped because he is old 🤷♀
We have had the scandal of the late Sogal Rinpoche who has never investigated by the dalai Lama,despite many protests about his behaviour.
book--traveler in space. by june campbell.
It's strange, you didn't come across the information that to say "eat my tongue" is a normal thing to say for elderly people in Eastern Tibet to say to kids as a way of teasing them. He wrongly translated it to "suck," but then that word apparently isn't as sexualized in Tibetan as it is in English. Of course it was an intensely awkward interaction and these kinds of cultural behaviors don't translate well, so it's surprising that he was unaware of how such comments would be perceived. I came across several Tibetans and people involved in Tibetan Studies who attested to that, and it resonated with my own experience as someone who studied the language for several years. I guess what we see on the internet will differ drastically depending on our own viewing habits.
I agree that the arguments about his divinity and radical innocence don't help--I think devoted Tibetan Buddhists sometimes forget that their worship of their guru won't convince outsiders about anything. But I found arguments about the cultural differences, especially given by Tibetans and scholars involved in Tibetan studies, helpful.
The arguments involving the culture, the language, and the context more generally were downright explanatory. And I'm no acolyte. The whole perceived scandal was one of those bifurcating moments where you got an update on who still cares about careful discernment, who still cares about truth. No one can claim to care about ultimate truth and then turn around and fail to do basic research about about simple on-the-ground truths, or fail to even check their own mental fabrications for accuracy, especially in Buddhist circles. The fact that one behaviour can mean something radically different in one culture than another is a perfect example of the lacking of inherent essence (emptiness).
So cannibalism is okay as long as it is part of culture?
What a ridiculous argument.. if that’s the culture then it should be addressed and changed.
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Being greatly interested in Zen Buddhism, I have never found the Dalai Lama insightful, or say anything profound or with any wisdom. Other Zen master's would bring me to tears, like '' Thich Nhat Hanh''. I think maybe the Dalai Lama was just thrown into his position of an incarnate. I don't think the Dalai Lama sticking out his old crinkly tongue, and asking a child to suck on it is a good look at all. I think any other elderly individual on the street poking out their tongue for a child to suck on it, they would be immediately locked up.
Apparently suck my tongue has a cultural context and is used by tibetan grandparents to scare children away.
Dharmawheel has done a commentary on this. The dalai Lama used tibetan phrase "eat/suck my tongue" with direct translation to english.
For those who are interested in the Tokyo subway sarin attack, Haruki Murakami wrote a book based on interviews with survivors. It's called 'Underground'. The Tokyo subway attack was an early example of a mass casualty terrorist attack the most have forgotten about.
"Don't even get me started on the Dalai Lama's involvment with the CIA."
No, lets GET started on that Brad. Spill the tea!
Look up "Bullsh*t Dalai Lama" on CZcams. It's a show starring Penn & Teller (the magicians). They go into a lot of how the Dalai Lama was involved with the CIA in training guerrilla forces in Colorado for a possible assault against the Chinese.
Yeah, kinda why I left Tibetan Buddhism … they have made the Dalai Lama a God … and he’s not. But let’s not brush aside that China DID commit genocide in Tibet.
Source please?
@@user-rj9ee7hw8u Haha! Here in America we have free speech. The Chinese people are fine. It’s the government that’s horrible.
@@4imagesmore
Source for what exactly?
An innocent religious thing? He told the boy; "Now suck it" How's that innocent? Amazing.
Apparently this is something elderly Tibetans do with kids. It's a kind of game. Anyway, that's what people are saying. The idea is "I'm all out of candy, so eat my tongue."
I am all out of candy, so eat my tongue, that still sounds too bad 😂😂 @@HardcoreZen
I am always happy to see that you are down to earth about these so called “spiritual” leaders. I am Christian, but DO NOT blindly defend someone just because of their name, title, etc.
Probably the majority of organizations all have these shadowy sides within them and people need to exercise caution when dealing with any human being.
From a biblical point of view, it tells us that our hearts are exceedingly wicked. I see this as a truth as I look at what the people in the world are capable of. None of us are “innocent” or working on a “higher wavelength” than another.
Anyhow, I appreciate your practical view on these matters. It’s easy for people to be deceived, and even worse, self-deceived.
"you are down to earth about these so called “spiritual”
Is there anything down-to-earth about spirituality?
We defend His Holiness Dalai Lama with cristal clear mind..with enlightenment and wisdom of buddha.
But you're criticizing Him with blindly,
Yes a lot of people came and come to meet his Holiness, some if them maybe bad person...
But our intention is promote their good things. to realize their good mind ans to heart...
A lot of bad people change in good by the effort of His Holiness..
Long live HH Dalai Lama
@@kyegedun5444 I didn’t criticize the Lama. I do however criticize his actions. I don’t know what is in his heart, so I can’t be the judge of his heart. I can, however, judge his actions by what fruit they produce.
In regards to his interaction with this child, it was a very unwise and strange thing to request of the child, hence, many people were disturbed by it. His action created chaos, not holiness, not goodness, not wisdom, but bad “feelings” in those who viewed, and heard, his actions. Therefore, his actions were unwise. He is capable of error, mistakes, misjudgments, bad action, bad behavior, etc. He is human. He is fallible. He is not God, or a god.
@@thelonelyartist711That was just a video clip which was edited.
people see and judge according that clips with impure mentality..
What we see and hear It can not be truth always.
I think you're a young...But we know young and old people also behave with child like childish.
HH's action is not bad or unwise nor disturbing. His intention is not harm or abuse the child. It's justa kinda playful compassion and friendship.
Nobody is forcing you to believe as a God.
We have two words bhagavan and ishvara. it's not totally same meanings..
@@kyegedun5444 good to hear from you again. I agree that what we see here is a video clip, not reality. However, what I watched did not appear to be edited. It was a solid clip. Also, those who were present at the event, and who were disturbed by his actions, did in fact see it in reality, not a clip.
Either way, it does t change the fact that his “childish” behavior caused problems for him, and the people who respected him. Age has nothing to do with this. I’ve known children WAY more wise than adults. If anything, adults have proven themselves capable of much more harm than children, so I am not sure why you brought up age. How old are you?
Anyhow, you said that people viewed the video clip with “impure mentality “. Explain what you mean by that please. How can you say that’s a true statement? Are you capable of judging another person’s mentality? If so, how?
The first thing that bothered me was the murders that took place in the HHDL compound in 1997-attributed to a wrathful diety which left bloody footprints-and then the Shambhala thing…
I think you refer to a few murders which has been committed probably in association with a "figure" called Shugden. This is a complicated story where the Chinese are probably involved in as well. I don't know about the bloody footprints, but I am pretty sure these entail murders (by human hand)
Ouch! That was a bitter pill but you were right to say it. I only wish those who eagerly run to HHDL's unequivocal defence would address his endorsement of Asahara. I say this as a follower of HHDL and this is exactly what he teaches us we should do.
I'll say it louder for the people in the back... IF YOU'RE FOLLOWING THE GURU BLINDLY YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG.
That said, I will continue to make offerings and prayers for the Dalai Lama. Not because it benefits him in anyway, but because it benefits me. Big girls can separate the sin from the sinner, the guru from the ordinary man. Is that kooky? Maybe.
I don't think it's any accident either, that a revelation like this is happening now at a time where trusted and respected institutions everywhere, are in collapse.
I'm pretty new here and I really appreciate what you have to say - especially when I don't like it, and I recently bought your latest book and joined your patreon just to prove it!
(Sorry for the all caps shouting earlier. It had to be said.)
Thank you. I hope I didn't offend you. Having been in Tokyo when Asahara's terroist attacks happened makes me a little too sensitive about this subject, I think. But I still would like to know why he endorsed Asahara. Surely he had plenty of other donors, like all those Hollywood celebrities, The article I linked to implies that maybe HHDL thought he could reform Asahara somehow. I don't know if that was part of it.
@@HardcoreZen No offence taken, thank you. The truth sometimes isn't nice but it is always kind. We'll probably never have the answers we seek about the endorsement so I'll resist the urge to rationalize or speculate.
I love the lineage that has given me so much and I do think idealization is a critical part of development. In life, heroes, whether it's a parent or a guru often let us down and in doing so, present another opportunity. It's how we grow up and how students become masters. There are many responses one could take. I'd like to keep my dignity while refusing to become cynical. I believe there's a sweet spot there, if I can find it.
I'm sure you've spoken or written on this issue and I look forward to discovering your thoughts.
Question everything.
shoulda stuck a ? at the end of that..
Huh didn't know that about the Dalai Lama. That's crazy. I'm with you though. I grew a punk anarchist myself so I don't just trust these gurus. But I will admit, I did go through a Tibetan Buddhist phase. I remember going to a zen group at the same time and I had one of the Tibetan Buddhist books and the old New Yorker zen priest, Mitch, saw me with the book that said guru devotion on it and he said to me, "That stuff can be dangerous. How do you spell guru anyway?"
I said to him, "Gee, you are you." And I laughed, but I got the message.
If you are criticizing blindly you are doing it wrong. No caps. I was waiting for the evidence, or even an accusation, that the Dalai Lama loaded the sarin gas, or ran logistical planning sessions, or gave money to Asahara (a real endorsement), or something like that. You only accuse him of accepting donations from Asahara and meeting with him. And he acknowledges this in the letter. (Which was qualified but acceptable to the one who asked for it. I think those with eyes to see can pick it out.). If you take the letter at face value the money was used to support the dharma or young monks in exile either way. No Rolls Royce as far as anyone can tell. It is not disqualifying to show kindness to the NVIXIUM cult leader. Or even Asahara himself. It is exactly what one would expect from someone with the DLs purported credentials as an emanation of Avalokiteshvara. Even if he isn't. The letter he wrote also says thank you it is very appropriate. I recall listening to a dharma talk from Shinzen Young about the 10 paramitas. He said the first was dana and even criminals can practice the first paramita. In fact, he said the yakuza could be quite generous. Do you vet every kind or not kind donor before accepting a donation? Take responsibility for his actions? Also, I think there is a bit of a straw man attack going on here. The videos of the fellow lauding Dalai Lamas difference from the rest of us and of his profound innocence and so forth. That kind of thing is beside the point and we can all be positive without too much concern that the DL's s*hit does stink. But the claim of the Dalai Lamas 'serious involvement' with Asahara fails badly.
I'm glad Ziggy is feeling better
Really?
@@HardcoreZen Yeah. My son and I have a dog
I watched the Asahara video btw. A psychopath and mass murderer I understand what your point is. But I think the above still holds
@@HardcoreZen I don't get the sense that a million dollars over a couple of years if I remember correctly would move the needle. There's Richard Gere etc. etc. All he has to do is ask
I think the kid was uncomfortable. I think it was not right for this powerful man to do this to a child. People look up to him and his behavior is not ok, he should know better. Obviously, people are more than willing to make excuses for his behavior and that is troubling in itself.
You just thinking that, it's just a your imagination nothing more than that. Even body language can't refers which you speaking here. We know limit of culture and physical boundary, In familiar case, playing with child and go to close and kiss them, it can not break any boundary. If you are still not satisfied in this incident please you can take a flight ticket and land in India then meet the little boy and retake his statement and then proceed the case in the court. I will satisfy with your steps. But why are you speaking&viraling here in social media? The boy said after met with HH,"It's a great experience meeting someone with high energy. It's a nice feeling meeting him, And you get a lot of positive energy. it's not just that, once you get positive energy, it's a better thing, and you smile a lot more, It was really god experience."
The boy's mother said "Im Dr.Payal Kanodia Trustee M3M Foundation. We've been working in dharmshala on this skill centre which we started last year and since then we were looking at seeking blessing from HH. And you know... Today we got this opportunity, especially my family was there with me... We are totally totally blessed to have got this blessing from HH. He came, addressed us in the person, and taught us about peace that the world needs and how everyone needs to feel together like brothers and sisters. I absolutely cannot express how I feel getting blessed by him."
Show me the tongue sucking video clips. That was not HH commandment.
Buddhism teaches various ways to behave and talk with people, It's also a compassionate philosophy or way of life, laugh and happiness is also part of buddhism. /Laughing Buddha/
That was little boy, not a young man. So HH behaving like childish. There is not single way to behave compassionately/(Kaarunik),itself a huge scope. HH's apology is just for peace and patience. If HH speak more even people will criticize Him. Then He apologized and stay silent. 'Stay silent' is also teaching of Buddha. Dhammapada (227)
O Atula! Indeed, this is an ancient practice, not one only of today: they blame those who remain silent, they blame those who speak much, they blame those who speak in moderation. There is none in the world who is not blamed.
He apologized it means not that HH is guilty. HH's apology was just for maintain peace and patience. It clearly says in His apology. HH's intention was not to harm or abuse the little boy. Just there is bit a misunderstanding in some people's mind. When we see and observe with right mentality..there is no way to feel bad.
"Every kiss is not disturbing or abusive or sexual__ Kiss of brotherhood,kiss of compassion kiss of friendship"
@@kyegedun5444 You're just a big fan of the Dalai Lama and you'll always give excuses for him no matter what bad thing he does.
@@aspiknf I more big fans...highest is always buddha....
Dalai Lama is also my big fan..Buddha is behind Dalai Lama....
If you have proof then come on proceed the case in court. Why are you speaking here...?
My observation from having hung out with a Vajrayana group for a couple of decades now is that , like the Catholic Church or Hindu guru ashrams- claims of, or aspirations to celibacy inevitably lead to sexual abuse and/or deviance. Kalu Rinpoche’s accounts of the abuse he received as a child monk from older monastics is a well-known example of what has gone on for centuries.
DL is a political figure made very useful by the CIA , just as so many cult, sect, or tribal leaders have been. Among “Tibetan Buddhists” he is the head of the Gelugpa school- ONE of the 5 historic schools of Vajrayana Buddhism.
My speculation is that DL is like other figurehead “special” nobility, royalty, holiness raised from birth in institutions outside the norm. In their dotage, the mask of propriety slips and the id comes out to play the senile creep.
Only born again Christians have the ability to be celibate and only then if they have the spiritual gift from the true God. As God doesn't give spiritual gifts to false religions that is why celibacy doesn't work for any of them.
Catholics are not born again for example so that is why they become very perverted when forced into false celibacy
but kalu 1 had a story....book..traveler in space by j campbell.
HH Dalai Lama learned a hard lesson from Asahara.
I have never met him, but I know people who have on numerous occasions, and they all have pictures to prove it. I can tell you now that the office of the Dalai Lama doesn't so easily endorse teachers that aren't well known outside their circles anymore.
Tibetan Buddhists need to disabuse themselves of the omniscience and infallibility of their teachers. While I found great value in Vajrayana and Dzogchen, I find that any system where people assume power over others is going to make for corruption. I find the teachings of Lord Acton to hold as universal truth as those of Lord Buddha.
when i first heard of that tongue sucking video i was kind of curious, looked it up on youtube and didn’t find it all that disturbing. then a video came up on my feed of this guy defending the dalai lama, basically saying he couldn’t do anything wrong because he’s dedicated his life to peace, that he’s more important to this guy then his own family, and that if you think there was anything impure about the dalai lama it’s you who’s the sick pervert etc etc and i thought geez this “defence” is way more disturbing and concerning than the original incident !
Yeah thats something I've seen in Tibetan Buddhism a bit, "blind faith." It's true the Dalai Lama was conditioned into his life completely differently than most of us were into ours, but that doesn't mean he's just automatically immune from greed, hate and delusion or the five hindrances or many of the other troubling mental states that we "commoners" experience. These are some of the things that turned me off from Tibetan Buddhism from the start.
People can get so caught up in a teacher, they don't care about the teaching at all and/or miss the flaws of the human who is teaching. Very common across all human endeavour. Some people are just more strongly attracted to people than to ideas. The charisma blinds them and honestly, they enjoy giving up some of their autonomy to a parental figure.
The blind faith that many Tibetans have to the weird Dalai Lama and the immoral thing the Dalai Lama did to the boy are both very bad.
He is satanist. End of story. Cia sponsors him
I think that's what's been bothering me the most too. I don't follow the Tibetan Buddhist tradition but I've been taken aback by the gaslighting and his defenders saying he's a god and should be understood as impossible to do wrong, that critics are just hateful and have wrong view and dirty minds. I can't help thinking of all those Catholic abuse survivors who were attacked for accusing priests and being told they were going to Hell!
I'm glad to see Ziggy is doing better. Any idea what was wrong?
Not really. All the tests came out negative. He may have eaten something that disagreed with him. Also my nephew was visiting for about five days and that probably made him nervous. Maybe the combination?
@@HardcoreZen Maybe so. My cat got an upper respiratory infection after getting really stressed by our new kitten once.
Not only Shoko Asahara, but you should also look into the Dalai Lama's involvement with the CIA.
By the way, Tim McCarthy was my teacher too. It's possible that you remember me because I think we were students at about the same time (late 1980s)
as we learn about famous people past/present lifted up by myth and media, the realization that good and bad runs through all and life is a process of practice rings very true. great video as always!
I'd love to know more about Tibet having been not quite such a paradise before the Chinese invasion.
What exactly would the phrase 'dark side' mean...in the context of Buddhist doctrine?
Tibetan Buddhism seems to be obsessed with idolatry and information...as if enlightenment were made of information, or could manifest as a 'person'.
So I dont take it seriously.
The unquestioned assumption that Dalai Lama is the reincarnation of Avalokiteshvara should be undermined. He ignored the petitions from the sexual abuse victims by tibetan monks, that he condemns those monks. I didn't know that he blindly endorsed the cult leader for money. Thank you for the video.
“He’s never had a normal life”…exactly. People don’t need to make excuses for his weird behavior, predatory or not, he’s an 80 year old man, he is not naive or innocent. He plays a character in public to try to bring attention to the political situation of Tibet, obviously. Many Tibetans don’t actually hate the Chinese though, that’s a dirty little secret the Free Tibet movement hates. Tibet was a feudal theocracy before Mao liberated the Tibetan serfs. Has there been abuse by the CCP toward Tibetans? Yes. Terrible abuse. But it’s way more complicated than the movement leads you to believe.
No.. I don't agree with you bro. Bless you
@@tenzinshakya3620 Well then you’re wrong.
R you right.. I guess not.
@@tenzinshakya3620 Are you right? Definitely not.
I am a tibetan n i know more about tibet n HH the dalai Lama. Plz don't argue.
Even assuming that somebody is not a child abuser and even assuming that they do not think like that towards kids that definitely by no means is an indicator that they are pure or that they don't have a dark side.
Sad to see the comments on this video. I for one thought it was an insightful analysis and taught me things I have never heard of before. Always have been a fan, keep it up!
This whole DL bit just confirms my belief that SA survivors should never get mixed up with organized religion.
It's very clear from past interviews at the the Dalai Lama can dismiss any questions or inquiries that he doesn't want to deal with.
In these moments, there is no radical innocence. I'd be willing to bet on it.
Folks don't want their holy images to be shattered.
"Stupid is as stupid does"
-Forrest Gump
Nice guitaring at the end, nice dog, nice flowers and nice!
I saw woman respected Buddhist Pema children confront "Dalai Lama" about common abuse of females by Tibetan Buddhist " gurus". Lama just giggled laughed about it with his sidekick monk and never acknowledged it nor condemned condemned it. Neither did famous jack cornfield speak up or challenge the Lama though he says there in the small audience , 10 feet away. Horrific male behavior and criminal silence about proven, open, obvious, horrible abuse.
I'm only at minute 2 here, but I'm surprised to hear about all the hate comments! You came across to me as just being careful not to jump to conclusions about a situation you have very little real information about. Maybe I'll change my tune by the end of this video, but I get the feeling that those people weren't looking for a discussion - they might've been looking for an excuse to feel that sweet, righteous anger that we all love so much.
before 1959, tibetan was a serfdom society. HIS FAMILY OWED 6000 SERFS AND HIS FAMILY HAD 27 MANSION. ALL THE DOCUMENTS ARE AVALAIBLE IN CHINA. TIBETAN BUDDHISM IS GURU DEVOTION IS ALREADY BAD.
Stupid argument. Back then literally every country had slavery. Ask one Tibetan who escaped from Tibet. I bet on my live it wasn't from the ''serfdom society'' u say. And u know the real reason why they escaped.
CCP'S China is a coronavirus generator, committing genocide on the whole world. China, stop the genocide in the world!
For me, he is just a man and capable of any of the human weaknesses that all of us experience. How did he earn his title? He didn’t. A group of men chose him based on signs and objects. Yes, he’s a spiritual leader, but not mine. It’s tiring. I’m glad Ziggy is better. Viva Ziggy! Nice flying V guitar. I liked your solo work on this song. Excellent!
Glad to hear your insight on this man. It seems that the most famous 'holy' people are also corrupted by the power they wield to influence others. So sad, really saddened, until I realize it is the quiet ones who serve those in need who are actually the enlightened beings among us. Definitely not the popes, not the archbishops, not the lamas, nor the gurus gathering crowds and cash with wise words. The quiet ones are among us. I am grateful for that.
The attacks against anyone who would criticize the Dalai Lama have been quite telling. He's human and fallible, not a god. For people who claim to be Buddhists, they seem awfully attached to him. And I imagine many of those same people would be quick to stand in judgment of a Christian spiritual leader engaged in questionable behavior.
After watching this video, I continue to read your book page 204, I vow not to dwell on past mistakes... and you are consistent in your teachings, phew!
Which book please? I’m struggling with this right now.
@@chris.dt580 The other side of nothing
Our local Tibetan Buddhist teacher, who was a member of DL's court, seems like a nice fellow. He looks after stray dogs in India, and strikes me as a bit lonely and isolated--I don't really know of any other Tibetans around here. My guess is DL, and probably a lot of Tibetans, are simply clueless about other cultures, even naive. After all, DL has probably never so much as gone on a walk by himself and has always lived in a gilded cage, watched over and herded around. I lived in India for awhile, with relatives, another zany culture with beliefs we simply don't 'get' in the West.
He's met more people around the wold from different cultures and visited more countries than 99.9% of us
@@enterthevoidIi "[...] Standing next to me in this lonely crowd, is a man who swears he´s not to blame. All day long I hear him shout so loud, crying out that he was framed. I see my light come shining, from th west unto the east. Any day now, any day now, I shall be released." Bob Dylan
Guru worship. Intoxication and ideology / belief bias. Quite a normal thing to do actually... I had my encounter with this kind of irrationality when in Shambhala, my first Buddhist "training". No comments.
And viva ziggy!
By the way, Yogananda that you always keep his book behind you, had many scandals is his life. Research the expelled Kriyananda, a guy personally chosen by him to be his personal assistant, among others scandals...
Yeah... Yogananda... I like the book as a cultural artifact. Maybe one day I'll explain.
Are you expert on Tibet history?if not then don’t touch this Tibet history coz you know nothing about Tibet.
I find it bad especially in cultural context. On video putting kid on the spot. Representing a school, Buddhism in front of an Indian audience this would bother me any religion. Grooming children, he says he’s a simple monk should say I don’t represent Buddhism, Tibetan Buddhism or any school. Caucasian’s view of sexuality and eastern enlightenment I give very little to there opinions pros and cons
shoko's cult had nuclear intentions.
The unwillingness to acknowledge that the Dalai Lama is “merely” human, with everything that goes with that, speaks to peoples desperate need to worship other human beings. That, to me, is amongst the most absurd things about our species.
17:37 looks like Ziggy winked and smiled, ha! Oh no, I’m anthropomorphising, another absurdity!
Brad, Your zen videos are very good. It is sad when you get into this kind of political stuff -- especially after dismissing the DL as a political figure, which is why you dont care one way or the other about him. And then you make this video where you rant so passionately about the DL's nefarious financial, political activities?? Like i said, let's stick to Zen and other philosophical aspects of Buddhism. For the record, I'm not a supporter or opposer of the DL. He's just one of the many interestng figures of our times.
I believe this comment is the most objective point made in or about this video
Subjectively, of course
Buddhism doesn't discriminate amongst anybody who would like to join buddhist teachings and practices.
It’s stuff like this that makes me that much more dubious of any of the societal narratives that are played on repeat, political, religious or otherwise. Like, if these are the mythologies that we are building up about people who are living, what does that say about anything or anyone that came before?! Jesus, Buddha, even Dogen or Bodhidharma. It doesn’t ruin the value of what is being taught necessarily, but says a lot about the idealism that we so desperately want to cling to.
I remember being a little shocked at the seemingly critical reference to Gandhi when I first heard Living Color’s, Cult of Personality. But yeah! Him too!! That feeling has dulled over the years as more and more of this kind of thing comes up.
I almost couldn’t hear the video over the sound of the internet screaming at you, Brad 😂 Glad to see your punk rock approach hasn’t waned.
Your a good brother, great teacher Brad🙂🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️
One thing about the Dalai Lama comes to my mind, I mean his childhood pal, Heinrich Harrer. I hear that Hollywood gave a false image about him as this "reformed ex-Nazi", and that in reality he never really gave up his Nazi convictions.
I don't have an opinion on the Dalai Lama... but isn't talking like this against a precept? P.S. I am glad Ziggy is better!
Yes. It is.
@@4imagesmore I've written about this. The precept against criticizing other Buddhists was never meant to shield Buddhists from legitimate criticism. It is often used by Buddhist leaders as a way to shield themselves from being criticize for harmful behavior.
@@HardcoreZen That makes sense.
Don't you think it's important to know the content of those meetings before blaming him? Seems so obviously missing from your argument.
Even if a person has a seemingly spotless history, it would be incredibly (and dangerously) naive to assume they are "pure" or incapable of ill intent. Especially if looking from a Buddhist perspective. I would think that would be a very dualistic perspective. I'm not suggesting the Dalai Lama was being predatory; in fact, I'm just not making any assumptions at all because I feel like it is pretty pointless for me to do so. Like you said, my first reaction was "well that was pretty fawking weird". Ultimately, we can all speculate and debate, but we just don't know what that was all about.
"naive to assume they are "pure" or incapable of ill intent."
Are you pure or incapable of ill intent?
@Teller3448 no, of course not. That is exactly my point. The Dalai Lama is a human like any other. Claiming he is pure and isn't capable of doing wrong (as someone in Brad's video clip stated he is) is naive. I am saying that even if he had never done anything questionable in his whole life, it would be erroneous to assume he is "pure". That's just not the nature of humans.
@@tinadeemc8728 The whole point of Buddhism is to transcend the nature-of-humans. How will you KNOW this nature has been transcended?
@Teller3448 is the whole point to transcend human nature? Is it possible for a human to be above being human and no longer be affected by the human experience? Are you suggesting the Dalai Lama has transcended human nature? I think you and I may have come to Buddhism with different goals. I am not hoping to somehow level up from being a human, but to be content in my experience as a human expression of awareness and awake to the human condition. To transcend human nature I would have to overcome everything that makes me human and that simply isn't possible. But I've only been committed to practice for a few short years so maybe I've got it all wrong. I guess I'll just keep with my practice and see where it leads. All the best to you in your practice. Take care.
@@tinadeemc8728 I wonder if the historical Buddha ever spoke of "human nature". This concept seems more an old-sinitic one to me, - also a bit "soul-ish", - which was later integrated into the "big [religious] stream-system" (Hans Küng) of Buddhism.
Thank you, Brad. This is an important message.
Okay, Brad, since we seem intent on opening cans of worms:
is Dzongsar Jamyang Khyentse Rinpoche gay, and how many famous Buddhist teachers are gay (but not “out”)?? (Disclosure: I’m a fan of DJKR and have several of his books and films…)
I had a similar experience with friends who were followers of a western new age spiritual type, known for making things up and lying about his 'lineage' and spiritual pedigree, and defended as a 'humble old man'. People love having somebody to revere, follow, and bask in their second-hand prestige.
The dark side of Chinese Agents:
take money and spread lie 🤣🤣🤣
Hmmmm?
so you cant win... sounds like a koan 😎
who is this Canadian guy?
Loved the whole video. The stereo pan on the track at the end is awesome.
Oh thanks! It's great when people notice those little things.
@@HardcoreZen what genre of music are you playing sounds cool
@@diane3209 The song is from the second Dimentia 13 album. I guess it might be "folk rock."
Hero worship, is a slippery slope do disappointment when they let you down. As any human can. I remember Noah Levine's "fall from grace" all too well. So I make it a point to not hold any human to such standards as spiritual perfection or purity. I wonder if The Dalai Llama knew how bad this dude was, or what he did with the money.....
As you said before a lot of us felt the need to express that the Dalai Lama is in fact very knowledgeable about Buddhism. Many of us are actually long time fans of your writings and videos. I am not sure I ever thought the DL was incapable of receiving money from donors and visiting with them as part of the process. As you have alluded to he was the main person in charge of looking after his people. But doing that and being a Buddhist scholar and teacher are not mutually exclusive, nor is he immune from being connected with bad people. I don't really see this as a serious indictment on him. I doubt he knew very much about that guy at all apart from him being some Asian religious leader who was giving large sums of money to Fund the Tibetan people's cause.
Ignorance is bliss eh?
Shoko Asahara was seriously bad news. A mass murderer.
@@HardcoreZen agreed. I remember when that happened. I guess what I am saying is that I never really think of anyone being incapable of being connected or tied in to evil people. I almost think that it is unavoidable if that makes sense. It's like running through a mud pit and not drop of filth on you. It's kind of impossible. That is life essentially.
It is never easy to say if someone did a bad thing "because of" or "in spite of" some connection. If you feel that someone is up to doing something evil, you might keep away from him -- that's what most people would do and expect others to do. You might as well try to influence the evil-doer-to-be, and this only works if he trusts you. So being close looks like approval -- is it really? I don't know.
It happened to Jesus. Some of his fellow Jews hated him for keeping company with the tax collectors who worked for the Romans. Now we know what he was trying to do.
I don't know about the activities of His Holiness, but I trust him. Just saying.
Thanks, Brad. I wasn't aware of the Dalai Lama's association with Shoko Asahara. Glad to hear Ziggy is doing well.
Watch the expanded version of that "suck my tounge" video & explain what that quivering was all about just after he took off his hat & the facial expression,,, then tell us What was his Left Hand (hidden from sight under his robe) doing ????
The steadiness of mind you and non-attachment to self you show in responding to 'haters' on this topic is extraordinary. At least what we are seeing on camera and in the comments. Is that proof of enlightenment? Or maybe the nearest we non-enlightened folk are able to witness of it?
Wow! I always had an uneasy feeling about the Dalai Lama and this just confirmed it! Yikes! Thanks for speaking out about this!
I love your videos! Just very 'real'. Keep it up!
NXIVM Cult and Dalai Lama is subject to explore.
Yeah, very wary of high untouchable gurus/priests/mullahs of any path. There are good and solid teachers of course but the stories of the holy man who was very human are very plentiful. The worst are the use of their positoni to spirtually/mentally mind-f*ck with victims to get them to obey wishes. First crack appeared for me re DL in YT discussion between a Buddhist nun in audience and him (on the dais) raising sincere questions about treatment and acknowledgement of women. He was openly sarcastic and laughing with his retinue about him, as she kept seeking politely. Humans are never gods of purist light and is a dangerous slippery slope to start regarding anyone like that. Thank you. Follow the money.
This is a good & important video, but I’ve gotta ask: at 0:53 what’s the deal with the swastika on the guitar?
Either this is the bodhisattva Avalokiteshvara and his actions should be taken accordingly, or this whole line of buddhism is deceiving you.
How many people are going to comment about Buddhism and capital punishment?
Seems like corrupting influence of having a lot of power is being proven once again, in this case with the Dalai Lama. And I'm glad Ziggy is on the mend.
Please go to Daramsala for a month, simply travel and maybe exploring Buddhism studies. Then you see what you are saying now is still true to you. Or finding answers to your questions through watching his online teachings. As long as you are not an CCP influencers. All of these are possible.
Pema Chodron confronted Lama dude
I love His Holiness, but it's ok to disagree with him at times. It's not a breach of samaya.
The x-files movie auto played after this vid.
Wow thankyou for sharing this. Sad what money and fame does to people 😕
For me it looked sexual. If this was just "inocent" how many children you see that suck each other tongue. There is a book from Victor Trimondi 800 pages. In German it has the title the Shadow of the Dalai Lama which is full of sexual dark magic and politics. But its not just about the actual Dalai Lama but about all and tibetan Buddhism in general. I dont know if there is an english translation of this book.
This was a pretty good video. Thanks,
Can you show some proof that DL took $3 Million from AH…?
I've never been quite convinced by the Dalai Lama. And I don't think I've ever heard anything from him so profound that I'd be tempted to say he is an enlightened being. In my mind he has always been a political figure. My take on that video is what I think when a senior with a cognitive issue does something with complete unawareness of it's in-appropriateness, cultural or otherwise. Because I have to believe that he is quite a bit smarter than that. He has travelled the world, conferred with some of the powerful and spiritual people on earth so I would expect him to better informed about these things. Maybe he is not as smart as we would like to believe. Hard to tell when you are surrounded by handlers 24/7. It's an awkward position for his followers so of course they are circling the wagons. I suppose they are allowed, but as I said, I've never been very convinced. Some people just front really well.
This is petty and clearly coming from a place of hurt for you, Brad. Unfollowing, your stuff has gone downhill
Good for you!
Ulma Thurman was indeed on Palm Fiction as well as on Kill BILL
DL's handlers and image managers should have taught him better on how the current world works, not the one in our heads.
Confused! Dalai Lama being equated with a Japanese serial killer - that’s different
Such abilities like Oracle should prevent of being associated with people with criminal orientations.
Some people to others are stinky, money is not stinky.
Even rules of the law are on the side of the money.
I think it should be notet that the Dalai Lama was at first enthusiastic to the chinese reform because he did believe that the feudal system of Tibet was "backwards". But the chinese became very brutal very quickly and that is the context in which he wanted the CIA to help Tibet and finance their resistance.
I did not know that. That's interesting.
Can you cite reliable sources for the Chinese "brutality"? The US is rife with anti-Chinese propaganda just now because of the war hawks in government (and elsewhere).
He rewrote history many times, so to speak. E.g., he once said, he now suspects, in hindsight, that he was tricked into his clandestine flight to India by some advisors, based on false or at least twisted informations. - In sum, we all know that history - which has even of some necessity to osciallate between facts and fiction (in this case on the side of a l l involved parties) - is seldom purely black-and-white. - That´s why scientifically doing history is a big challenge and a difficult art, but that´s another story.
He has said that a few times! Also, that Tibet did not always have a Dalai Lama, and he sees no real need to continue the tradition. They had great hopes the CIA would provide the means (army, weapons?) to oust the Chinese, who invaded at the height of the Cultural Revolution madness. I expect that idea collapsed when Nixon opened relations with China. There are now more Chinese in Tibet than there are Tibetans. BTW, Tibetans also appealed to Britain for help but got none. I don't know anything about CIA money but I have heard Tibetans describe their first years in India. Unaccustomed to the climate and the food, many died, especially from TB and newly acquired diabetes from the diet. They worked on road gangs, slept in the open or, for awhile, in an unused prison the Indian gov't provided. Eventually, they were given a few spots to build monasteries in raw jungle. India was a poor place, itself, and not keen on refugees. It is a tragedy to lose one's country and become like stray dogs no one wants.
@@roxanpierson9541 I already heard this version in the 1970ies, from the "Lhasa Review", if I remember right, which was a bit too propagandistic for my taste. The whole older and newer history is quite a complex matter. Obviously, living standards and life-expectancy have increased a lot in the Autonomous Region Xizàng since "liberation" in 1949. As far´s I know, not only has the population increased considerably, but it also still is Tibetan (how ever one defines the "Nationality", which is not so easy, because there never was a homogenous population) in the majority. It approached the ominous number of 6 million inhabitants of "old times", the Dalai-Lama bureau always talked about. But that was most pobably a fantasy number, because old Tibet never had anything like a reliable bureau for statistics, and no clear defined borders (not to mention the problem of "souzeranity"). In Switzerland, at least, - I know from when I did a study, - that the exile-community was fairly well off and well integrated; the elder generation even complained that the young people are mostly no more interested in Buddhism. As Bob Dylan once sang: "The times, they are a-changing." Collecting data was and is not easy: Propaganda from all sides. Well, I´ll leave it with that...
Some tough and complicated stuff here. I spent only just now a little time researching to get some more info. All of what you've said seems true. Though, it also seems that there was a lot of administrative monkey business going on, and it's hard to say or truly know what DL really knew, considering the business of Big Tibetan Buddhism. It's easy to get conspiratorial. The truth is probably something in the middle of whatever opinions there are, and at best all that with asahara calls into serious question DL's judgement, which isn't nothing. Anyway, great info and thank you for sharing your opinion and knowledge and experience, as always.
I followed everything on the Asahara involvement, the fallacious reasoning of expecting religious leaders to be pure, how the Dalai Lama is likely an imperfect being like you or me, etc. But then you said the Chinese invasion of Tibet is probably not worse than the previous Tibetan theocracy? I mean woah, wait a second. Could you point me to a source of that bomb you just dropped at the end of this video?
(Longtime reader and CZcams watcher, and practitioner for context).
It's just something I've heard in various places, that the Tibetan theocracy was no paradise for ordinary Tibetans. I don't know any details. But it's not difficult to believe. Most theocracies are pretty terrible places for everyone except members of the ruling religious elite. I don't see why pre-communist Tibet would have been be much different from, say, contemporary Saudi Arabia, or medieval Europe just because the ruling theocrats were nominally "Buddhist." There is a video on CZcams called "Dalai Lama Bullsh•t." It's from a TV series by Penn & Teller (the magicians). On the show, an expert in Tibetan history makes some very strong claims about just how rotten the Tibetan theocracy was - torture was apparently very common, for example.
minor atrocity has a nice ring to it.
Brad Warner: "I don't make videos about political stuff but..."
Also Brad Warner: "My video last week about the Dalai Lama was one of my most viewed, so here's another!"
And that sir, in a nutshell is why I am no longer a regular viewer of your channel. Not that it matters, as clearly you aren't hurting for views/viewers.
I do appreciate the nuanced view offered in this one, but I don't appreciate the clickbaityness. It isn't the first time I've said so.
Guess I'll go back to scrolling past your videos.
lol
Yep. Three videos per week for I don't even know how many years. And how many were "click bait"?
@@HardcoreZen there is not dark side to the Dalai Lama
@@HardcoreZen nah, I finally read one of your books recently and that was kinda like literary clickbait. I get it, you wanted to be a rock star.
Don't worry, there are enough folks out there as blindly devoted to you as the Dalai Lama's followers are to him that my silly little sour grapes comment won't hurt your views. In fact, these comments might actually help!
If you want to donate to me, I can rag on your vids regularly.
I think Jung had it right with his shadow that develops or can with the religious person or the pressure. I guess the temptation of Christ, St Anthony etc deal with these problems. The problem is the house of cards we build up about these people. I think that's why I've been reluctant to go too deeply into my Zen group a few years back. Once you get involved, buy the t-shirt it's hard to return. My dad was into Osho, Baghwan. He never really got too far down the hole, as he had a family to support etc but he would often mention things he had said, and refer to books. I remember my dad saying something like only he knows if he was a fraud or not. I suspect it's probably more complex and it doesn't preclude parts of what he had to say being meaningful or profound. I suppose like all lives they evolve, even that of gurus and he became a kind of celebrity and all the madness of that. Of having to sit down, crossed legged and dispense wisdom. Groping a student or worse in his downtime. I guess it's what they mean buy absolute power corrupts, absolutely.
I'd like to learn more about the tibet situation before and after communism, is there a good book out there you can recommend?
I don't know any books about the subject. But there is a video on CZcams. You can search "Dalai Lama Bullsh*t." It's from a TV show called "Bullsh*t" starring Penn & Teller (the magicians). They interview an expert about Tibet. Maybe he published a book on the subject.
Love ya bud
And he gets another pass from you as well...
Bravo!!!!🎉
So glad ziggy is well!!!
Dalai lama has a habit of hanging with the wrong crowd, in many occasions - like Keith Ranier...
Hes mixing the dharma with his political agenda, which seems to be taking over the world with his Gelugpa -lineage (in all seriousness), but his dharma is old like a dinosaur fossile being dug up in modern ages. He cannot even refresh it cos he lives an escapist style life as a monk.
After the sarin attack "Phowa" practise was banned in Japan as the gas attack was supposed to be a "mass phowa to release bad souls" or something in those line. Now seeing this I understand why it was banned: cos Dalai Lama officially backed this group - shame on you Tenzin.
Haruki Murakami wrote an interview book about AUM Shinrikyo called "Underground" - worth a read if you havent
'A healthy mind does not speak ill of others.' Anon.
Sucking child's tongue not innocent at all !!!!!!!!!! Be not blind nor naive. Jesus said "be wise as a snake, harmless as a dove". Protect kids from old tongue sucking adults !!!!!!!! Don't betray kids. You wouldn't do that with your niece or nephew or grandchild much less a stranger child !!!!!!! Open your eyes and 💓💖💖💓💖💓💖💓💖💓💖💓💖💓