Just as Kafka does not depend on Black Swan, Black Swan does not depend on Kafka... but without a doubt no one denies that they are better together than apart, and both manage to make each one reach their Maximum Damage
Exatamente, tanto que na minha visao kafta e uma boneca que faz os time de dot ficarem mais forte em comparação com um time de dot sem a kafta.@@w.ae_l3367
team 2 is what I was waiting any content creator to make a video on. Except replace ruan mei for silver wolf for "mono wind" or guarantee wind weakness.
I got Black Swan, but sadly lost the 50/50 in Imbibitor Lunae banner to Clara. At least i have a guaranteed now. I will now farm my ass off for Acheron when she's released.
I'm really want Acheron in future and have 100%, but I'm also have Kafka. Yeah, I have also E6 Sampo, but didn't find actual good showcases of Kafka with him. Is this combo can clear hard content, or Black Swan is must have for Kafka?
I recommend getting the character you really want first (Acheron), before you pull for less desired characters. They're great together, but they can also work independently as Pepegaphone said.
holy shit this is so good... I just accidentally got BS and never built dot. I thought she would be usles, but after raising just a bit and playing some material farm with kafka support they just OBLITERATED. I sadly dont possess kafka nor do i sampo e4 but i will def wait for sampo e4 or kafka rerun and make dot team.
Also, “allegedly” if you are running ruan mei you don’t need type dmg orb, you’re better of with just attack. (Same as, if you are running her with kafka you need atk% boots and not speed, and your kafka to be fast af)
its possible for a black swan without her light cone to do the same damage and end the fight in a few cycles like the one in this video ?? (Sorry for bad english google translate hate me)
Yes, I have way more damage with Black Swan + Sampo E6 (you can check my last video). Because my teammates there all have 160+ speed with Glamoth. And all DoT characters have ATK sphere since its better than Wind with Ruan Mei. My Black Swan with Sampo S5 LC
@@Uwuharu Ohh bro you dont know the problem you just put in my hands 😭, i have all that you just say to replicate the team, except for E6 Sampo, mine it's only e2 (E3 if i pick him in the event) and i need a wind dps bcs i dont have/like blade, but, i want so much Hanabi AND i have all Hanabi want to Buff (Daniel and Seele with her lightcone). I am at pity 45 with 71 pulls, should i pull for bs?? 😢
I haven't tested black swan without lc, so I unfortunately can't say much. If you really want Hanabi, you should pull for her. She's more versatile than Black Swan since she's Harmony.
If you don't have enough, I recommend getting characters first. You can use alternate LCs, but you won't get to experience the character if you don't have them.
it is better not to use DHIL ultimate just after his enhanced attack , instead you should use it after his turn ends so it will give you some stacks of his talent for the next enhanced attack
Might be the opposite, using his ult right away give his 300 multiplier ult a fat 48 crit damage and 60 dmg bonus where as using it after would only give you more 30 dmg bonus for the first,second,third,fourth hit, 20 more dmg bonus to the fifth hit, 10 more to the sixth hit and the final hit stays the same on his 500 multiplier basic
@@scimech5922 no it might not be the opposite , his enhanced attack hits way harder than his ultimate , and you get 3 stacks from his ultimate + 3 stacks from the initial 3 hits of his enhanced , and the rest of his attack (4 remaining hits) get the full buffs Also take into consideration that rutilant arena buffs basic attack dmg not ultimate dmg So his enhanced attack does indeed have higher priority when it comes to choose what to buff
Black swan and Kafka showcases are all over the CZcams and you chose to ask for another Black swan/kafka video under one of the only Kafkaless showcases🗿
@@santabakure6264no one use asta with them. and this guy already make so much variant of bs and kafka team such as guin, sampo and ruan mei, not only moc but also su and pure fiction. are you even watch his other videos? duh
@@mr.caelussy no one who has mei uses asta with them If you don’t have mei, asta is almost the same, just swap some numbers to be a little lower and add some negligible burn damage
@w.ae_l3367 What I tried to say in my original comment is, don't use ult right after basic attack when your turn hasn't ended like in 0:38 (you can see some of his damage buffs disappear right after his turn). His ult helps charge his passives, which gives damage% bonus. His lvl3 basic attack does more damage than his ult. To do the most total damage, you wait until his buffs are gone, then use the ult so that it can buff his next basic attack by helping charge his passive. TLDR: Use less damage (ult) first to charge passive, then basic attack lvl3 to do the most damage
@@francisdl5467 oh okey i misunderstood your original comment but now i get it, well i personally like using his ult right after his basic (if his ult isnt fully charged before the basic) so the ult could get both his skill cdmg buff and his talent dmg buff So i think its a matter of prefrence of which one you want to get more buffs his basic or ult
@@gamalielbontilao3679 it was actually only 2 cycles which is impressive , but I don't think switching sampo to kafka would have changed much , E6 Sampo is a great teammate for black swan Also his DHIL's build was a bit of a mess (lvl 12 relics , using speed boots instead of attack boots ...) And he made couple of misplays And DHIL was on a f2p LC (not max superimposition ) while black swan was on her sig LC
For now I think he and JL are superior, but since we just entered 2.0 I think the upcoming dps will be just outstanding as well. I won't be surprised if Acheron or even Sam outclassed them both. But that's for the future I guess...
@@starless0021Imbibitor Lunae and Jingliu are overrated as hell. They are average DPS if you don't waste a year worth of trailblaze energy building them. Does everyone who own them can clear MoC 12 less than 1 cycle? Most F2P players of them have average clear time of 4 cycles which are literally the same number of cycles you can manage with the rest of the DPS roster in the game. 💀 Let's be realistic. Theorycrafters don't mean shit if you can't copy their stats.
@@shandianjythey aren't average dps like you say They are currently the best dps in game but that doesn't mean other characters aren't good and it didn't take me long to get good relic for my DHIL while for black swan I still can't get a single good relic
Just as Kafka does not depend on Black Swan, Black Swan does not depend on Kafka... but without a doubt no one denies that they are better together than apart, and both manage to make each one reach their Maximum Damage
Kafka is less dependant than black swan her teams are weaker but still good, black swan's are still decent but not as good as kafka's
Exatamente, tanto que na minha visao kafta e uma boneca que faz os time de dot ficarem mais forte em comparação com um time de dot sem a kafta.@@w.ae_l3367
ty for not using kafka ❤
Cheers!
Ty for the video, now we know she is good without kafka..😊
team 2 is what I was waiting any content creator to make a video on. Except replace ruan mei for silver wolf for "mono wind" or guarantee wind weakness.
1:50 it looked like you attack without pela ult def down even though you had her ult. On PC, you can press Z to see all the debuffs the enemies have.
Nice
Cheers!
I got Black Swan, but sadly lost the 50/50 in Imbibitor Lunae banner to Clara. At least i have a guaranteed now. I will now farm my ass off for Acheron when she's released.
Oof. Goodluck with Acheron, hope you get her early instead of higher pity.
I suggest using dance dance on tingyun
I'm really want Acheron in future and have 100%, but I'm also have Kafka. Yeah, I have also E6 Sampo, but didn't find actual good showcases of Kafka with him. Is this combo can clear hard content, or Black Swan is must have for Kafka?
They synergize well, but they are both independent from each other. You can play kafka without black swan and vice versa.
I recommend getting the character you really want first (Acheron), before you pull for less desired characters. They're great together, but they can also work independently as Pepegaphone said.
@@HyrionCh thanks you both)
holy shit this is so good... I just accidentally got BS and never built dot. I thought she would be usles, but after raising just a bit and playing some material farm with kafka support they just OBLITERATED. I sadly dont possess kafka nor do i sampo e4 but i will def wait for sampo e4 or kafka rerun and make dot team.
Getting Sampo e4 should be easy if u plan to pull for sparkle and choose him from the current event hehe
She's really good. I tried her with just her and two supports, and she did just fine.
@@monbebehere1607 how do you know? are there already sparkle banner leaks? never seen one tbh xd
@@likes7635sparkle banner 4 stars are sampo, hanya and qingque
@@likes7635 black Swan and sparkle banners were shown on the honkai livestream
what stats do you want to focus on when building Sampo? (I have E6 Sampo)
Get speed until 134/ 143/ 161. Depending on planetary set, but your baseline is 134. Then at least 67% of ehr to 80%. After that atk > be substats.
@@HyrionChgot it. tyty :D
Also, “allegedly” if you are running ruan mei you don’t need type dmg orb, you’re better of with just attack.
(Same as, if you are running her with kafka you need atk% boots and not speed, and your kafka to be fast af)
I don't want to farm relics anymore lol. But yeah I agree with that
its possible for a black swan without her light cone to do the same damage and end the fight in a few cycles like the one in this video ??
(Sorry for bad english google translate hate me)
Yes, I have way more damage with Black Swan + Sampo E6 (you can check my last video). Because my teammates there all have 160+ speed with Glamoth. And all DoT characters have ATK sphere since its better than Wind with Ruan Mei. My Black Swan with Sampo S5 LC
@@Uwuharu Ohh bro you dont know the problem you just put in my hands 😭, i have all that you just say to replicate the team, except for E6 Sampo, mine it's only e2 (E3 if i pick him in the event) and i need a wind dps bcs i dont have/like blade, but, i want so much Hanabi AND i have all Hanabi want to Buff (Daniel and Seele with her lightcone). I am at pity 45 with 71 pulls, should i pull for bs?? 😢
I haven't tested black swan without lc, so I unfortunately can't say much. If you really want Hanabi, you should pull for her. She's more versatile than Black Swan since she's Harmony.
Help should I pull for Black Swan or sparkle? I think maybe sparkle because i dont have any 5 star supports and i have 3 good dps 5 stars..
Who are your dpses please?
Sparkle would definitely help your account more
Sparkle is way more versatile. Get her, she'll help ease your team building.
My dps are Dan heng imbibitor lunae,Jingliu and Argenti
Its gonna be so hard to not click the warp button on black swan’s banner 😭
lol the 6 cycle
why my sampo e0 not stack with black swan
Just E4 can stack
idk if i should pull for swan and get lucky for e0s1 sparkle, or try both. i need to win 2 50/50
if you have kafka try to get both, if not then save for sparkle and her sig
@@zamboniaNo one should save for sig LC unless you like it
If you don't have enough, I recommend getting characters first. You can use alternate LCs, but you won't get to experience the character if you don't have them.
@@xenoemblem7Especially not F2P Players.
it is better not to use DHIL ultimate just after his enhanced attack , instead you should use it after his turn ends so it will give you some stacks of his talent for the next enhanced attack
Might be the opposite, using his ult right away give his 300 multiplier ult a fat 48 crit damage and 60 dmg bonus where as using it after would only give you more 30 dmg bonus for the first,second,third,fourth hit, 20 more dmg bonus to the fifth hit, 10 more to the sixth hit and the final hit stays the same on his 500 multiplier basic
@@scimech5922 no it might not be the opposite , his enhanced attack hits way harder than his ultimate , and you get 3 stacks from his ultimate + 3 stacks from the initial 3 hits of his enhanced , and the rest of his attack (4 remaining hits) get the full buffs
Also take into consideration that rutilant arena buffs basic attack dmg not ultimate dmg
So his enhanced attack does indeed have higher priority when it comes to choose what to buff
his ult is literally useless and just for skillpoints, it always did low damage
can you do asta, bs, kafka?
Black swan and Kafka showcases are all over the CZcams and you chose to ask for another Black swan/kafka video under one of the only Kafkaless showcases🗿
@@santabakure6264no one use asta with them.
@@santabakure6264no one use asta with them. and this guy already make so much variant of bs and kafka team such as guin, sampo and ruan mei, not only moc but also su and pure fiction. are you even watch his other videos? duh
@@mr.caelussy no one who has mei uses asta with them
If you don’t have mei, asta is almost the same, just swap some numbers to be a little lower and add some negligible burn damage
Yeah I'll try that in the future. I kept using ruan mei instead of asta for dual dps since I got her.
Anyone else uses Dan Heng ult after he loses the passive stacks so that it carries over on his next turn like me or what?
You loose energy if you use his basic when his ult is full
@w.ae_l3367 (Correction: you mean potential energy that can be gained) Yes, but that has nothing to do with what I said?
@w.ae_l3367 What I tried to say in my original comment is, don't use ult right after basic attack when your turn hasn't ended like in 0:38 (you can see some of his damage buffs disappear right after his turn).
His ult helps charge his passives, which gives damage% bonus. His lvl3 basic attack does more damage than his ult. To do the most total damage, you wait until his buffs are gone, then use the ult so that it can buff his next basic attack by helping charge his passive.
TLDR: Use less damage (ult) first to charge passive, then basic attack lvl3 to do the most damage
@@francisdl5467 oh okey i misunderstood your original comment but now i get it, well i personally like using his ult right after his basic (if his ult isnt fully charged before the basic) so the ult could get both his skill cdmg buff and his talent dmg buff
So i think its a matter of prefrence of which one you want to get more buffs his basic or ult
why does cool kits always on women😔
Dr. Ratio has a pretty interesting kit. And very fun to play.
dhil is just superior.
@@gamalielbontilao3679 it was actually only 2 cycles which is impressive , but I don't think switching sampo to kafka would have changed much , E6 Sampo is a great teammate for black swan
Also his DHIL's build was a bit of a mess (lvl 12 relics , using speed boots instead of attack boots ...) And he made couple of misplays
And DHIL was on a f2p LC (not max superimposition ) while black swan was on her sig LC
For now I think he and JL are superior, but since we just entered 2.0 I think the upcoming dps will be just outstanding as well. I won't be surprised if Acheron or even Sam outclassed them both. But that's for the future I guess...
dhil benefits from the moc buff and got beaten by 2 cycles by swans cope team w/o kafka 😂😂😂
@@starless0021Imbibitor Lunae and Jingliu are overrated as hell. They are average DPS if you don't waste a year worth of trailblaze energy building them. Does everyone who own them can clear MoC 12 less than 1 cycle? Most F2P players of them have average clear time of 4 cycles which are literally the same number of cycles you can manage with the rest of the DPS roster in the game. 💀 Let's be realistic. Theorycrafters don't mean shit if you can't copy their stats.
@@shandianjythey aren't average dps like you say
They are currently the best dps in game but that doesn't mean other characters aren't good and it didn't take me long to get good relic for my DHIL while for black swan I still can't get a single good relic