Big Agnes Copper Spur HV UL3 FULL REVIEW and how NOT to guy out the tent
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- čas přidán 9. 09. 2024
- Along with a FULL REVIEW I discuss how NOT to guy out this tent and show you first hand what happens in 50 mph gusts with the manufacturers recommended guy out method. Don't miss that clip! It's pretty wild!
Here are some links to the products discussed:
Big Agnes Copper Spur HV UL3:
www.rei.com/pr...
Copper Spur Footprint:
www.rei.com/pr...
Big Agnes Tent Floor Protector:
www.amazon.com...
Excellent and important info, that can only be gleaned from experience. Thanks!
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Still a good review and helpful two years later. Thanks for posting.
What a great, thorough review/guide. Thanks, man.
@randy savage. Thank you for watching and for your comment. It's been a busy summer for me but new reviews are on the way!
I appreciate your words of encouragement.
instablaster...
Thank you for the tips. Just bought the 2 person tent, which I will use as a spacious solo-tent. Immediately set it up in the backyard. I like the features and the low weight, but I was surprised at how thin the materials are, especially the floor. This is my first lightweight tent, so I’m used to heavier and thicker materials. The durability over time is a concern. Time will tell. I’m definitely adding something to protect the floor from the ground.
I hear your concern, and it's a valid one. In order to make the product weigh less, the material needs to be thinner.
In truth, I think you'll be surprised at how durable it actually is. The key to preserving the floor is making sure you clear your ground space really well. Remove any sticks or sharp rocks that you can. Pick a site that has soft ground when at all possible. I've gone without using a floor protector many times and just used the optional footprint. I would recommend that, at a minimum, to help with your concerns. Happy camping !
@@benlavigueur4275 Thank you for the reply. I have considered the BA footprint. It just bugs me on principle that I have to pay that kind of money for the footprint 😅 Are you still happy with the tent?
@sharamkh oh yeah! Still use it. It's my go-to tent for camping with the wife or one of the kids. It's just the reality of today's lightweight products. It's not even that thin compared to a lot of other lightweight gear.
@@benlavigueur4275 Good to hear! I’ll probably bite the bullet and get the footprint 😊
Thanks I was debating about getting the two or three person tent
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Thanks for the great pointer on staking out the BA! Just bought the 2 person version. I think I will be adding a few more tent stakes to my shopping list.
You'll love the shelter! Wise decision by adding some stakes. Enjoy
Just purchased the tent thanks for the guy hints
Enjoy! It's still my go-to tent for camping with someone else.
Great Review of the Copper Spur HV UL3. Thankyou for sharing. Thinking of getting the Expedition version of this. Liked and Subscribed
Nice video - when it is very windy use my trekking pole to give guy line a more vertical support - then it wont collapse 😊🏕🇩🇰
Good idea! Thanks!
Thanks for commenting Hans! Question: did you have to add extra length to your guy lines in order to get this to work?
I just use the guy line there comes with the tent ⛺️
Another advantage to fully guying out your tent is that it acts as a warning system for curious bears. Don't ask how I know this.
"Strings to keep away things." I say.
Quite right on the guying out advice. I had a long discussion about this with BA a couple of years back when they had (they don't seem to nowadays) some basic - and IMO very misleading - guying advice on their website. Apart from anything else, putting multiple lines onto one peg means that all the wind load from one direction is working on that peg, and IF that works out of the ground, then you have no guyline support at all that side of the tent. Yeah, low weight is a competitive thing these days, but not at the expense of a collapsing tent.. All the best.
Exactly! Is saving an ounce or two really worth promoting and advertising a product that will ultimately fail in its structural integrity? Is BA truly overlooking this or do they just not care?
I still really love this tent and BA products but it's crucial for people to have all the information they can when using products like these which is why I made this video. Thanks for watching.
I rate BA. I'm very interested in the Expedition version, which they seem to have discontinued. Impossible to source in the UK at any rate..
I don't know about 3 years ago, but BA does not (currently) tell you to set the guylines as you showed. Also, 8 stakes is exactly enough to secure all the corners properly when you attach the top layer corners to the footprint corner stakes. Although I do agree that extra stakes would be beneficial in high wind conditions, to get the attachment point further away.
I looked at all their titorial videos and even called them. That was how they showed and stated was the recommended way to stake the tent.
@@benlavigueur4275 Alright. I guess they changed their mind over the years. The new way is significantly better, like you showed.
for that interior floor protector, you could use a cut piece of tyvek I think and save some weight while still protection the floor. I think its lighter than that 31 ounces.
I've used the floor protector for many other things too. I take it winter camping and ice brought out our onto the frozen lake at night, played it down so my wife and I can lay out and watch the northern lights at night. It's very versatile.
Very informative review. I'm comparing this particular with a similar one from REI and your review helped. Thank you for sharing your experience with this tent. Thumbs up!
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@@pathwaysalaska8757 And, subscribed! Safe trekking out there!
You too brother! Much love
Great review. That clip does make me rethink going for the Rogen and just spending the extra cash. With footprint for the big agnes, the weight is the same. And where I go, that is something that occurs at least once a trip.
All hilleberg tents don’t need any floor protection. Had my dog in it a lot. Never any issues. Neither for underneath the floor.
I'm glad I was able to help you come to a decision. Hilleberg makes a great product and I'm sure you'll be happy.
Great video. I have this tent. Good advice
Still using this tent and love it. Much love Mike!
This is great! Thank you!
Great Video!
Thank you sir!
Thanks for the review. There are more flies inside the tent than outside though :-).
Ha! Tends to happen during these reviews. Thanks for watching
5:05. Yeah dude... just turn your tent. The door should face the brunt of the wind in BA tents. Their tents are strongest in that direction
Actually, I just emailed BA last week and they replied this: "We typically recommend trying to put the head or foot of the tent towards the wind if you can."
Hi -- Can you let me know what size floor protector you used? They seem to come in 58" x 90" and 90" x 90", floor size for the UL3 seems to be in between. Thanks!
58x90
@@pathwaysalaska8757 Thanks!
Yes another gal said the specs are off too. I found the same with my BA CS said 88" long but the Nemo DF said 88" & it was.
You ever test a Nemo Dragonfly design? In figure BA had em beat with more tie offs for the wind. The Nemo had a nice strong floor & nice vestibule & its zips worked better.
Ever try that 3 pole 1 hub Tiger Wall design?
I've never tested any Nemo products. I hear good things though. I would like to try their air mattress and tent eventually.
And yes! Check out my other video of the Tiger Wall 1P. I really like it but there are also some downsides to it which I cover in the video.
How did you load it in the pack? I was thinking whether to just fold and stuff it in and put the hardwares out or else
I like to stuff the tent into it's own bag, or sometimes I stuff it inside the pack without a bag to fill in the empty spaces. I always pack the poles separately.
Thanks
Thanks for watching
Looks like it would fit two people and a dog nicely though 👍 thanks for the honest review. Would you purchase again?
Absolutely! In a heartbeat. Thanks for watching. If you feel you got some valve from then please consider subscribing. Good day!
Yes I feel like the CS 1P Ibam testing does not have enough velcro straps to the pole. I think they were only on one end of the tent.
I recall scratching my head, " Shouldn't there be some at this end?"
Nope.
Right! Definitely could have spent a bit more time testing. I think weight savings were too much of a priority for them. Thanks for watching
I always wrap the feet of my sleeping bag with my backpack rain fly to avoid wet feet. Pro tip.
Great idea 💡
@@Lincoln_Hawk the inside of a backpack cover doesn’t get wet though…? That’s literally the point of it…it’s water proof… Are you ok upstairs?
Cheers on the vid. I just picked one up. First time having such a thin tent fabric, in your experience how durable has just the base tent been? Thinking about getting a footprint or inner liner, don't have a dog
I think you need to consider what type of terrain you'll be setting your tent up in. If it's mostly soft forested ground then you can easily clear debris and not worry about puncturing the bottom, then no footprint is necessary. Always try and choose good ground for your site. I'm getting away from using footprints to help save weight and space. One other thing to consider is whether you would choose to use the fast-fly setup. If so, a footprint is required.
If you decide against a footprint then you can always keep a little Sil-nylon repair tape in your kit
Hope that helps.
I would be 🙏 if I went through a storm like that in a tent
Hey curious. What do you have in the tent. Looks like some sort of footprint. I haven’t camped with a dog before and worried about it in the tent. Should I line the inside of my tent?
Haha just finished the video. Tent floor protector
I totally recommend the tent floor protector. I have also used it for any other purposes than what it's intended for also.
:blanket for picnic or at the beach
:lay down on frozen lake in winter and watch the stars without getting wet
: use as a blanket over your sleeping bag to add an extra layer of insulation
How well would it work for two people and two medium dogs?
Would be tight
Hi there. I have 2 questions. Would you consider this a 4 season tent? Have you had this in rain? Is it pretty rain proof? Thank you
Hello J. T
No this is definitely not a 4 season tent. I have had this tent in decent rain and it holds up just fine. No leaking or issues at all.
That level of wind is horrifying. Did you get any sleep at all that night??
Minimal. But it was worth it to capture on camera and makes for a good story. Ha
Nice vid. Have been wondering how weather stable this tent is; mainly wind and rain. Question, what are you using underneath the mats? Looks like a paw print.
Thanks for commenting TrailDancer. Yes I am using a Big Agnes Footprint
Pathways Alaska I didn’t even know BA made a paw print. Must check that out.
Yup! Big Agnes makes one for each of their tents
@@pathwaysalaska8757 I know the ground sheet, but I've had BA tents for years and always wondered, bc Nemo makes them as well. :)
What sleeping bag do you use?
Big Agnes Husted 20 degree and the other one is a Biig Agnes 15 deg women's version
I've recently switched to using a Quilt though as of last season
She choosed the color, idmit
Long enough for a guy who’s 6’4”?
Yeah you'd be good. Just touching both ends but would serve you fine.
the stock music is such an obvious steal from Avicii it is comical
It's copyrighted ©️ music from Vanity Street. Check em out. Cool stuff.
There's plenty of room for 3. Its the outdoors, not the Ritz Carlton FFS. If it was a rock climb it would be the most famous ledge bivy in the world with that much room. So tired of so-called "reviewers" complaining about this.
Your opinion is yours and mine is more in line with what people really want to know and hear the truth about.
You can absolutely fit 3 people in there, tightly. But people want to truthfully know how it feels inside. Which I offer. You'll be okay Chief 👌 relax
@@pathwaysalaska8757 Can you get 3 normal width lightweight pads in there? Yes? Its a 3 person ultra-lightweight tent for people trying to save max weight. Done. Stop whining.
You are the only one whining about some guys video on CZcams. I'm sorry you are so offended by one person's honest and truthful evaluation of a fine product that paints a perfect overall picture of the item. You must be bored.
@@pathwaysalaska8757 You have no clue what you are reviewing, that's the point. You are just parroting other noob reviewers. Trying to make your channel better dude. If it fits 3 pads its a 3 person UL tent.
I know exactly what I'm reviewing, exactly what I'm talking about and I understand exactly what people want to know.
You on the other hand, are doing nothing but speaking simply to hear yourself speak.
I mean seriously! No one is listening to you or gives two shits about your opinion.
Good day to you sir.