the camera panned to Geezer for a grand total of 3 seconds in this entire song. I feel like his contribution is so under appreciated, that dude was absolutely chugging along every second of this song. nothing super complicated but he was doing his thing.
Dude I completely agree. That footage is my favorite live footage of all time, and the only flaw is the lack of geezer ripping on that bass. Dude is a genius are wrote a lot of sabbath’s lyrics. Underrated for sure.
One of the finest live performances I’ve ever seen. It’s a full frontal assault. No pyrotechnics or light show just four guys giving it everything they’ve got
Bill Ward is one of the greatest drummers in the history of rock n roll period. Amazing work especially in this song. Thank you for the great video work too. Blessings.
Bill Ward was very much schooled in jazz. Both Bonham and Ward were from the Birmingham circuit. So they knew each other. But I wouldn't say that any one of them influenced the other in a significant way. The music they played needed another approach than earlier rock music, as they had to adjust to the louder output from the developed equipment. In this performance Bill is brutal. Bashing away with the thick ends of his drumsticks on his kit. But he can be subtle as well as using power. He always has those tasty fills that elevates the songs. He has that swing feeling that is more recognizable in Sabbaths studio recordings.
@@gratefulsabbath7026 Completely false. Bonzo’s technique is the soul factor behind his sound, he didn’t hit the drums very hard, he just knew how to hit them to make them sound BIG.
I've never been particularly into the drummer. I realize that they are essential to the outcome of a song, but... That being said. This guy ! Just wow ! He Was the song ! ❤️✌️
I've heard other drummers comment on the similarity between Bill Ward and John Bonham, but I don't hear it. At his best Bonham was the absolute master of push/pull and shifting pace. He could do mesmeric like no one else (e.g. When the Levee Breaks, Kashmir etc). Bill Ward at his best was much more on the front foot, as in this video, blues/jazz attack. For me, Ward was the better (just), because of how critical the drumming was to that Sabbath sound when they were the greatest band on Earth.
HUGE Sabbath fan here. I've seen them live many times. This right here is my favorite performance. I think they had a funeral for that drum kit after that performance.
Same. I go back and watch it every few months I wanna share a really good quality video of the performance if any one wanna see it in the best quality possible czcams.com/video/krFWPowhqSo/video.html
Ward and Bonham are the 2 greatest. Incorporating Jazz into Metal was Brilliant, that power, heavy hitting fast hand of Bill ward was insane! no one and no body will match that, he maintain that stamina all through out the set. Hands down to the true legend.
Bill and Bonham were both playing on the Birmingham circuit at the same time before making it big with their bands. As with all of their generation they both worshipped Gene Krupa. Bill never got the respect he deserved and its great to see a new generation recognising him now
ward was playing with his broken sticks backwards in this if you look closely. something he did for quite a while before he decided he really could afford new drum sticks. crazy style to develop with the heavy end of the sticks.
I played with Bill ward in 1984 he used very big drum Stix over sized !!! Went to perks palace hb so cal to watch Walter trout band. Walter called Bill up to play but Bill didn't really want to play . But he sat down pushing the drums around and then picked up the sticks and raised them over his head and with one hit put both sticks through both snare skins and left the sticks hanging in the springs !!! Got up and sat down to drink our picture of beer !!! The band was in shock with no snare drum ! Now that is bad ass !!! Good times love that guy . Thanks Mr ward your friend 🙂
I wouldn't say that he was inspired by Bonham, I would say that they were both from the same school. As for this Paris live recording, it has to be one of, if not the greatest live performance ever.....And I do to some degree include Queen at Live Aid into that category......
I put it in the same box of legendary live performances you have to watch: The Beatles at the Wasington Colosseum, Ringo is fire on that set!! The Doors live on Danish TV... the atmosphere between songs is kind of cringe but it's so well recorded and filmed, it's worth it just for the sound Pink Floyd live at Pompeii... No argument here! The Who at Monterey pop... I just love the vibe of that set!! Jimi Hendrix Woodstock because it's so quintessential but I'm torn between that and Montery because of the impact of his comeback on American soil! Deep Purple Made in Japan because, well, yeah! Led Zeppelin at the Royal Albert Hall is my favourite! It sounds awesome and the camera work really makes you feel like you're ON stage with the guys Cream... The same can't be said about their performance at the Royal Albert Hall... Sadly I feel like history missed out on these guys and all we have left is a shoddy video made buy drugged out camera crew who discovered the zoom function on the lense and other bits for TV that were badly mimed... I'm really bummed about this. There are other great concerts out there, but these are the few that came off the top of my head!
Bonham and Ward were contempararies. They came up in the same scène at the same time, had the same influences, and knew each other well. It's what you said: they have the same jazz influences and style. They were literally playing the same clubs, auditioning for the same gigs, jamming with the same musicians, etc. Bonham was there for the earliest Sabbath gigs, before being hired by Page. I believe they influenced each other. They had a sort of friendly rivalry before hitting it big respectively..
Pretty sure Ludwig, Ward and Bonham were friends for years before famous, at least from 15, 16 years old. Jazz and Big Band influence is spot on. Bill later used Slingerlands in a much larger kit.
Bill is an absolute madman pounding those drums. He's never received his due as one of the great rock musicians, in fact I'd say he's almost criminally underrated
Hey jason I did some research on this kit Bill was playing its a Slingerland kit with a Ludwig snare and if you notice Bill is playing with the drum sticks upside down he is using the heavy end of the sticks.
It's said that Bill Wards drums were admitted to the hospital he beat them so badly. And in case you missed it, that is that last song of the set, after all that work before this.
Bonham and Ward absolutely knew of one another, and both are heavily influenced by jazz and RnB, and i'd argue they probably did influence each other, at least a bit. Both their bands are hugely responsible for helping to create the sound of hard rock in the 70's, Sabbath even being progenitors of multiple subgenres of metal, so I'd say there was probably at least some amount of influence on one another in style and attack. They're both insanely great drummers in their own right. There's famously a missing Zeppelin/Sabbath jam that was recorded when they realized they were recording their latest albums in the same studio, sometime in the mid 70s maybe, not sure. Love the sound of his kit on this recording!
They were playing in the same scène, auditioning for the same gigs, and jamming with the same musicians before breaking big. They knew each other well.
I wasn't into them as a teenager. My younger brother was. I've seen this video many times. My take away Every time is, T he Drummer!! His stamina! He in my opinion steels this show!! I've never been so enthralled by a drummer. He's an animal. Obviously talented as well. ❤️✌️
You keep saying "Bonham" but I keep hearing Ward. This version, even thought it's not the record version... I still love it. Love Bonham, but love Ward in this one too.. Two similar, but different drummers and they're both great.
Bonham was NOT an influence on Bill Ward. They both had jazz and blues drum influences. That can be said of virtually every drummer coming out of the 60s and 70s, especially in England. Ward has a fairly jazz oriented drum set up at this point they had really only been going as a rock act for just over a year when this concert took place.
They influenced each other. They were playing the same clubs and were friends well before either made it big. Bill actually may have influenced Bonham more than vice versa, but they knew each other well.
Bill Ward took mostly from Be-Bop drumming style like Buddy Rich but he mixed it with speed....war pigs live in Paris and it's infamous(difficult to achieve) ghost Hi-hat tempo note during the entire song so he can use both hands on the drums and lots of speed bass drumming, drum rolls, triplets from the 3:03inute you can hear the hi-hat tempo
There are a lot of live performances of Ozzy switching words around in lots of songs, or having verses in different places in the song. Considering how he used to come up with melodies for the songs, it's not surprising he'd have a few switch-ups. Of course, these days he's got lyrics on a monitor at his feet.
@@estoy1001 Sorry I'm a year late. And Ozzy is a year older. The man is 77 and held together with screws and duct tape. It's a miracle that he's even still alive, much less able to stand up and perform. Ozzy is the GOAT so he can read all the monitors that he wants. 🎸 🎤 🔥 😈 🤘🎸🎤
It's absolutely mental drumming. Love it. I have a feeling he's holding the sticks the other way round, so he's bashing the drums with the thick end...
Aside from early changes/arrangements made with this track B.S. live performance was so close to the original track the big screen showing previous live& studio performances it fit seamlessly
Drugs came later.. according to Geezer, they couldn't afford drugs in the early days. Remember, this was before Paranoid was released in the fall of 1970. They'd only released one previous album and the the excess didn't come until they hit America in 1971. The comparisons between Bill and Bonham are inevitable, but misguided. From a style perspective, Bill had finesse.. Bonham had all the subtlety of a Mack truck. As Ginger Baker once said of Bonham: "He's got technique, but he can't swing a sack of shit."
Great drum solo this guy was on fire from what I heard him and John Bonham were friends John asked him if he could try his kit but from what I heard bill did not let him so I don't know if they were still friends after that first time I seen this video great
The story is that the set was the same set his friend Bonham and the guy from Vanilla fudge uses. And it was reported to be the loudest kit a the time. I think he is playing the big ends of his sticks to compete with tony and geezer. + The Jazz influence and a massive load of metal sauce. Quoted as saying "- I try to play orchestrally." lol
They STILL know sound. I saw them at their final tour. The SOUND was absolutely stunning. Best concert I've ever been to. They were perfect and the sound was beyond any concert I've ever been to. And this was Madison Square Garden. I saw The Who a month later in nearly the same seats and it was dreadful.
audio wise, there was way better separation with space between the instruments before things started being so compressed. One reason why old vinyl sounds better in many cases.
No, Bonham wasn’t massive in December 1970 when this as recorded... weird how all you modern drummers finally get around to Bill Ward and think you hear Bonham ... the two sound nothing alike to me
Bill Ward is my biggest influence as a drummer. If you want look up Jon Rice. He has had several reactions down to his videos. He is best known for his extreme Metal Drumming.
In fact all of Sabbath and Led Zep (except Jimmy Page) knew each other due to all being from in or around Birmingham. Supposedly sitting in an old pile of tapes somewhere is a recording of a studio jam session that happened with the two bands but it will probably never see the light of day sadly
Pays to be a jazz drummer first and foremost, as Ward was and Butler. One of the best powerhouse rythum sections around and as good as Bonham/JLP! Didn’t need drugs! He was/is that good! Ian Paice another. One of the best left handed drummers and jazz
For my money Bill has it over Bonham. They were friends and rivals as Bonham was close with Tony Iommi and so they would see each other on occasion. Not sure if Bonham was louder although he is credited with being very loud but Bill was loud enough and undeniably the creator of Heavy Metal drumming, utilising his Jazz and Swing influences.
they were not all off their heads on drugs, this is 1970, no autotune, backing track or trickery and if you were off your face it wouldn't sound so perfect, so-called musicians of the last 20 years are charlatans using electronic enhancement to sound average and to rip your generation off! if you couldn't play it live you didn't get the time off day, this country churned out musical mastery like this by the boatload you could literally go to a local workingman's club on any weekend and see talent like this learning their trade in the toughest environment imaginable where if you bombed the committeeman would come up halfway through your set and pay you half the fee and tell you to do one and get off!
the camera panned to Geezer for a grand total of 3 seconds in this entire song. I feel like his contribution is so under appreciated, that dude was absolutely chugging along every second of this song. nothing super complicated but he was doing his thing.
Yeah I know . But you got Oz, Tony and Bill doing this with 1 camera ..
Makes it tough .
Dude I completely agree. That footage is my favorite live footage of all time, and the only flaw is the lack of geezer ripping on that bass. Dude is a genius are wrote a lot of sabbath’s lyrics. Underrated for sure.
more geezer the original headbanger
What the whole concert footage he’s covered in detail
@@drapedup76 Geezer is the bass player.
One of the finest live performances I’ve ever seen. It’s a full frontal assault. No pyrotechnics or light show just four guys giving it everything they’ve got
right on
One of the greatest pieces of drumming that I have ever seen or heard. Especially of the Rock/Metal genre’s.
Preach
Bill Ward is one of the greatest drummers in the history of rock n roll period. Amazing work especially in this song. Thank you for the great video work too. Blessings.
Bill Ward kills it. His energy is outstanding, and he DRIVES the band with a f4cking WHIP.
Bill Ward was very much schooled in jazz. Both Bonham and Ward were from the Birmingham circuit. So they knew each other. But I wouldn't say that any one of them influenced the other in a significant way. The music they played needed another approach than earlier rock music, as they had to adjust to the louder output from the developed equipment.
In this performance Bill is brutal. Bashing away with the thick ends of his drumsticks on his kit. But he can be subtle as well as using power. He always has those tasty fills that elevates the songs. He has that swing feeling that is more recognizable in Sabbaths studio recordings.
Bill didn't like John playing his drums.. as he was afraid he'd break them. That's the difference between the two: Bill played; John smashed...
@@gratefulsabbath7026 apparently "Supernaut" was Bonhams favorite tune from Sabbath. Lot's of drumming in that one.
@@gratefulsabbath7026 Completely false. Bonzo’s technique is the soul factor behind his sound, he didn’t hit the drums very hard, he just knew how to hit them to make them sound BIG.
@@jaimedrum Bill did say that, but I agréé about Bonzo's technique. He got that power from his wrists and his precision. But he did hit hard, too.
I've never been particularly into the drummer. I realize that they are essential to the outcome of a song, but... That being said. This guy ! Just wow ! He Was the song ! ❤️✌️
I've heard other drummers comment on the similarity between Bill Ward and John Bonham, but I don't hear it. At his best Bonham was the absolute master of push/pull and shifting pace. He could do mesmeric like no one else (e.g. When the Levee Breaks, Kashmir etc). Bill Ward at his best was much more on the front foot, as in this video, blues/jazz attack. For me, Ward was the better (just), because of how critical the drumming was to that Sabbath sound when they were the greatest band on Earth.
Sabbath was never the greatest band in the world
@@Nichwar19 yes, they were.
@@Nichwar19opinions differ. For me they were the holy grail of music
He literally nailed that drum kit to the stage. Bonham and Ward were friends.
Still cannot say its a Bonham influince... its from 1970... Bill has so much jazz influence. Amazing drummer.
This concert is pure gold. Every man kicked ass.
They breed fecking good drummers in the West Midlands.
HUGE Sabbath fan here. I've seen them live many times. This right here is my favorite performance. I think they had a funeral for that drum kit after that performance.
The entire show sounds amazing. Especially considering when it was recorded. %100 analogue.
Same. I go back and watch it every few months
I wanna share a really good quality video of the performance if any one wanna see it in the best quality possible czcams.com/video/krFWPowhqSo/video.html
I am envious......bought this album when relraded but never had the opportunity to see them. DR G
I love that the camera spends so much time on Bill Ward because his drum part is the backbone of this performance
him and geezer
What a classic video of Sabbath. Bill tearing up those drums and Ozzy so high he can barely stand up. Love this video!
This film recorded one of the greatest bands on fire giving it every thing love it 🥁🎸🎸🎶🎶🎶
Bill Ward is a Beast! One of my all time favorite drummers. He is beating those drums like they owe him money 🤣.
Paris 1970.
If only we could travel back and attend that fkn show
That would be so fucking awesome. I would want to go back 2 times ,one straight and would on pcp....
Ward and Bonham are the 2 greatest. Incorporating Jazz into Metal was Brilliant, that power, heavy hitting fast hand of Bill ward was insane! no one and no body will match that, he maintain that stamina all through out the set. Hands down to the true legend.
Bill and Bonham were both playing on the Birmingham circuit at the same time before making it big with their bands. As with all of their generation they both worshipped Gene Krupa. Bill never got the respect he deserved and its great to see a new generation recognising him now
Bill Ward was a huge Buddy Rich fan and that kit is exactly like the one Buddy played
That's a really good observation.
It’s literally a catalog ordered Buddy Slingerland kit complete with the left side bass drum mounted cymbal stand holding the splash
ward was playing with his broken sticks backwards in this if you look closely. something he did for quite a while before he decided he really could afford new drum sticks. crazy style to develop with the heavy end of the sticks.
It's the way that Bill really attacks those skins with such passion that really makes this outstanding
I played with Bill ward in 1984 he used very big drum Stix over sized !!! Went to perks palace hb so cal to watch Walter trout band. Walter called Bill up to play but Bill didn't really want to play . But he sat down pushing the drums around and then picked up the sticks and raised them over his head and with one hit put both sticks through both snare skins and left the sticks hanging in the springs !!! Got up and sat down to drink our picture of beer !!! The band was in shock with no snare drum ! Now that is bad ass !!! Good times love that guy . Thanks Mr ward your friend 🙂
Bill Ward is a very interesting man, fantastic drummer, poet, singer. I'd suggest listening to some of his solo material.
Poet ?
@@twomindz79 Yes, he writes poetry.
Wardy and Bonham were mates here in Birmingham at this time and often practiced togethe,.comparing notes and drum techniques
Thanks!!!
He beat that drum kit like it owed him money
Every drummer should hear hand of doom by these guys🤟
If this concert was shown in Japan, the Japanese censors would have blurred out bill wards drum kit
Practicly blurred as is
One of my favorite drummers. He really shines on the song The Wizard. Played out of his mind .
Remember kids.
That's a single kicker.
EVERYONE IN THIS BAND,IS GENIUS,before we had ozzy and crew,we had noise
Bill Ward is the best drummer ever
😎
I wouldn't say that he was inspired by Bonham, I would say that they were both from the same school. As for this Paris live recording, it has to be one of, if not the greatest live performance ever.....And I do to some degree include Queen at Live Aid into that category......
I put it in the same box of legendary live performances you have to watch:
The Beatles at the Wasington Colosseum, Ringo is fire on that set!!
The Doors live on Danish TV... the atmosphere between songs is kind of cringe but it's so well recorded and filmed, it's worth it just for the sound
Pink Floyd live at Pompeii... No argument here!
The Who at Monterey pop... I just love the vibe of that set!!
Jimi Hendrix Woodstock because it's so quintessential but I'm torn between that and Montery because of the impact of his comeback on American soil!
Deep Purple Made in Japan because, well, yeah!
Led Zeppelin at the Royal Albert Hall is my favourite! It sounds awesome and the camera work really makes you feel like you're ON stage with the guys
Cream... The same can't be said about their performance at the Royal Albert Hall... Sadly I feel like history missed out on these guys and all we have left is a shoddy video made buy drugged out camera crew who discovered the zoom function on the lense and other bits for TV that were badly mimed... I'm really bummed about this.
There are other great concerts out there, but these are the few that came off the top of my head!
Bill Ward & John Bonham we’re friends since they were teenagers. They both influenced each other before either was famous
And please check out the bass playing!!!
Fun fact: Bill Ward was also known as The Thunder God and you know why :)
Bonham and Ward were contempararies. They came up in the same scène at the same time, had the same influences, and knew each other well. It's what you said: they have the same jazz influences and style. They were literally playing the same clubs, auditioning for the same gigs, jamming with the same musicians, etc. Bonham was there for the earliest Sabbath gigs, before being hired by Page. I believe they influenced each other. They had a sort of friendly rivalry before hitting it big respectively..
Pretty sure Ludwig, Ward and Bonham were friends for years before famous, at least from 15, 16 years old. Jazz and Big Band influence is spot on. Bill later used Slingerlands in a much larger kit.
Bill is an absolute madman pounding those drums. He's never received his due as one of the great rock musicians, in fact I'd say he's almost criminally underrated
Hey jason I did some research on this kit Bill was playing its a Slingerland kit with a Ludwig snare and if you notice Bill is playing with the drum sticks upside down he is using the heavy end of the sticks.
It's said that Bill Wards drums were admitted to the hospital he beat them so badly. And in case you missed it, that is that last song of the set, after all that work before this.
Bonham and Ward absolutely knew of one another, and both are heavily influenced by jazz and RnB, and i'd argue they probably did influence each other, at least a bit. Both their bands are hugely responsible for helping to create the sound of hard rock in the 70's, Sabbath even being progenitors of multiple subgenres of metal, so I'd say there was probably at least some amount of influence on one another in style and attack. They're both insanely great drummers in their own right. There's famously a missing Zeppelin/Sabbath jam that was recorded when they realized they were recording their latest albums in the same studio, sometime in the mid 70s maybe, not sure. Love the sound of his kit on this recording!
They were playing in the same scène, auditioning for the same gigs, and jamming with the same musicians before breaking big. They knew each other well.
I wasn't into them as a teenager. My younger brother was. I've seen this video many times. My take away Every time is, T he Drummer!! His stamina! He in my opinion steels this show!! I've never been so enthralled by a drummer. He's an animal. Obviously talented as well. ❤️✌️
You keep saying "Bonham" but I keep hearing Ward. This version, even thought it's not the record version... I still love it. Love Bonham, but love Ward in this one too.. Two similar, but different drummers and they're both great.
Bill Ward is a beast 🤘
Right after this show that drum kit filed a restraining order against Bill😂
Black Sabbath are forever the Godfathers of Metal 🤘
love those galloping fills on the toms
Bill and Bonham were best friends, I'm sure exchanging licks - I believe that Bill Ward was properly Jazz trained tho
As a drummer myself, it is impossible that you do not know Black Sabbath and Bill Ward.
But, either way, cheers!
🍄🌲🍄✨💥🌈
Bonham was NOT an influence on Bill Ward. They both had jazz and blues drum influences. That can be said of virtually every drummer coming out of the 60s and 70s, especially in England. Ward has a fairly jazz oriented drum set up at this point they had really only been going as a rock act for just over a year when this concert took place.
They influenced each other. They were playing the same clubs and were friends well before either made it big. Bill actually may have influenced Bonham more than vice versa, but they knew each other well.
No better, more revolutionary, more important, more inspirational band than Sabbath. All four at the top of their game with limited, old equipment.
Amazing musicians - Amazing Concert - Amazing video - 🌸✌️🌺
As a rock drummer Bill ward a mile ahead
bill's a monster in this video
I mean, my god soooo heart beating crazy and chillllls 😍
What a workout those guys got after that performance lol
I think someone said hey are you John Bonham and Bill was like no, I am the belly of the beast. Now listen up.
Bill Ward took mostly from Be-Bop drumming style like Buddy Rich but he mixed it with speed....war pigs live in Paris and it's infamous(difficult to achieve) ghost Hi-hat tempo note during the entire song so he can use both hands on the drums and lots of speed bass drumming, drum rolls, triplets from the 3:03inute you can hear the hi-hat tempo
Play Grand Funk Railroad " inside looking out " 1969 live . The drummer is great !
Ozzy was still adding lines from "Walpurgisnacht" yea?
Yep! Not sure why, Paranoid had already been released.
@@21Piloteer well it's Ozzy u know. Probably, at that time, had sung the original lyrics way more than the anti war anthem.
There are a lot of live performances of Ozzy switching words around in lots of songs, or having verses in different places in the song. Considering how he used to come up with melodies for the songs, it's not surprising he'd have a few switch-ups.
Of course, these days he's got lyrics on a monitor at his feet.
@@estoy1001 Sorry I'm a year late.
And Ozzy is a year older. The man is 77 and held together with screws and duct tape. It's a miracle that he's even still alive, much less able to stand up and perform. Ozzy is the GOAT so he can read all the monitors that he wants. 🎸 🎤 🔥 😈 🤘🎸🎤
It's absolutely mental drumming. Love it. I have a feeling he's holding the sticks the other way round, so he's bashing the drums with the thick end...
In 1970 it was a shock for sure
Bill Ward is one of the original drum slingers!
Aside from early changes/arrangements made with this track B.S. live performance was so close to the original track the big screen showing previous live& studio performances it fit seamlessly
He was very much inspired by jazz…
Drugs came later.. according to Geezer, they couldn't afford drugs in the early days. Remember, this was before Paranoid was released in the fall of 1970. They'd only released one previous album and the the excess didn't come until they hit America in 1971.
The comparisons between Bill and Bonham are inevitable, but misguided. From a style perspective, Bill had finesse.. Bonham had all the subtlety of a Mack truck. As Ginger Baker once said of Bonham: "He's got technique, but he can't swing a sack of shit."
Black Sabbath Paranoid released September 18th 1970. The show was recorded on October 3rd 1970 Brussels Belgium theater 140 Pop Shop.
Who cares what Ginger Baker said?!
That was a stupid comment.
Sorry, this was in Paris, not sure you saw the title.
L'Olympia, in Paris, 20th of December of 1970 to be exact.
Look closely and you will notice that Bill Ward is holding his sticks upside down to get as much thump out of each stroke.
Great drum solo this guy was on fire from what I heard him and John Bonham were friends John asked him if he could try his kit but from what I heard bill did not let him so I don't know if they were still friends after that first time I seen this video great
THE BILL WARD SWING. Bonham never had it like Bill.
The story is that the set was the same set his friend Bonham and the guy from Vanilla fudge uses. And it was reported to be the loudest kit a the time. I think he is playing the big ends of his sticks to compete with tony and geezer. + The Jazz influence and a massive load of metal sauce. Quoted as saying "- I try to play orchestrally." lol
They STILL know sound. I saw them at their final tour. The SOUND was absolutely stunning. Best concert I've ever been to. They were perfect and the sound was beyond any concert I've ever been to. And this was Madison Square Garden. I saw The Who a month later in nearly the same seats and it was dreadful.
Ward had a noticeably jazzier left snare hand that danced around the back beat much more than Bonham, Bonham matched this with his right foot
audio wise, there was way better separation with space between the instruments before things started being so compressed. One reason why old vinyl sounds better in many cases.
No, Bonham wasn’t massive in December 1970 when this as recorded... weird how all you modern drummers finally get around to Bill Ward and think you hear Bonham ... the two sound nothing alike to me
Bill the Great.
Bill Ward is my biggest influence as a drummer. If you want look up Jon Rice. He has had several reactions down to his videos. He is best known for his extreme Metal Drumming.
Bill and John Bonham were mates.
In fact all of Sabbath and Led Zep (except Jimmy Page) knew each other due to all being from in or around Birmingham. Supposedly sitting in an old pile of tapes somewhere is a recording of a studio jam session that happened with the two bands but it will probably never see the light of day sadly
Pays to be a jazz drummer first and foremost, as Ward was and Butler. One of the best powerhouse rythum sections around and as good as Bonham/JLP! Didn’t need drugs! He was/is that good! Ian Paice another. One of the best left handed drummers and jazz
Saw Van Halen open up for Sabath in the late 70's in London, V H was a real hard act to follow
Great reaction.
Bill and John both played early 3-ply Ludwigs.
Bill Ward was a massive Gene Krupa, Buddy Rich and Elvin Jones fan, hence the minimal jazz drum setup.
For my money Bill has it over Bonham. They were friends and rivals as Bonham was close with Tony Iommi and so they would see each other on occasion. Not sure if Bonham was louder although he is credited with being very loud but Bill was loud enough and undeniably the creator of Heavy Metal drumming, utilising his Jazz and Swing influences.
They absolutely weren’t out of their minds on drugs during this. They were broke and couldn’t afford much more than weed.
It’s one hell on a performance! They seemed very zoned out hence my speculation about drug usage.
Bill ward is the best of the best.
Drums are large and in charge!
Im Team Sabbath
they were not all off their heads on drugs, this is 1970, no autotune, backing track or trickery and if you were off your face it wouldn't sound so perfect, so-called musicians of the last 20 years are charlatans using electronic enhancement to sound average and to rip your generation off! if you couldn't play it live you didn't get the time off day, this country churned out musical mastery like this by the boatload you could literally go to a local workingman's club on any weekend and see talent like this learning their trade in the toughest environment imaginable where if you bombed the committeeman would come up halfway through your set and pay you half the fee and tell you to do one and get off!
I could not agree more! Music now is dumbed down and almost anyone can be a “musician”.
Thank you for your comment, hope you liked the video.
You should check out the whole concert phenomenal I personally think he is better than John Bonham just my opinion
no band at that time was as raw as sabbath
JB was as much an influence on Ward as Ward was on him... they were contemporaries from the same scene
Visceral!!!🌠
Check out Joey from Slipknot ( RIP ) ans Skálmöld with the Icelandic symphony orchestra!!
Did Ozzy create Headbanging? Maybe?
poor Oz fucking up the lyrics, but Bill Ward was a beast on those skins!
alternate lyrics (walpurgis instead of war pigs). the album was going to be released as walpurgis, but the record label did not allow it.
Ozzy haveing fun
Ozzie having fun
Anyone wondering the snare used here is actually not even a ‘nice’ snare it’s a Ludwig Standard series aluminum one
all the acid was taken in the making of this performance
LSD is one hell of a drug
I'll bet the band weren't the only ones tripping!
That kit mic-up though. Hard to make out what's going on exactly but I can't see much by way of close miking
Bill Ward played for Sabbath for a "little" while?🏴
Yeah a long one lol.
Bill Ward was always my first mentor of drumming, John Bonham was my second!!!!.... Erik
Ward idolized Gene Krupa
Hence sporting that Slingerland and to correct Jason the snare was the RadioKing COB