Why Hosting The Olympics Isn't Worth It Anymore
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- It's no secret that it's a pricey pain to host the Olympic Games, running billions of dollars above the estimated budget. As the International Olympic Committee receives fewer bids with each problematic games, the future of the tradition is looking unsure. We spoke with Smith College Professor of Economics Andrew Zimbalist on the matter. He should know, he's written about the Olympic issues in Circus Maximus, No Boston Olympics, and Rio 2016.
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Create an Olympic island. All nations contribute to its construction. Then you host the Olympics there forever. It could work and be it's own government.
lothean Very unlikely, considering the amount of corruption and violence in this world.
Or a country. We could call it Greece. Would be even better if it has a place called Olympus.
@@grizzley6937 Could Have All Countries That Is Compeating Could Vote For Who Is Going To Be The Leader
You are a geneuis
That’s a good idea but what island
2:15 pay attention to the swimmer in the yellow. He swims out of the pool
What the hell
Lol
🤣🤣
Hehehe
Omg I’m wheezing
The problem with giving it a permanent home is that it becomes less of an international event. It's nice to see different countries each time expressing their culture in the opening ceremony etc, and helps share around the home advantage.
A different solution might be to scale it down somewhat, so it doesn't need the insane levels of investment that it currently does which are virtually impossible to recover.
Yup; there are too many sports.
Can always have a singular home for the events but each country can still bid to be the “host country” do the olympics 🤷🏻♂️ being ones culture around the world instead.
Would also mean that you wouldn’t have slums being walled up and bulldozed to preserve your country’s image.
hopefully it is now "which city has more infrastructure" instead of "who pays more"
you could give it a theme each time so that a different culture can express themselves. Better than having to build these ridiculous stadiums every time.
I don't like the idea of having one permanent host, but if it comes to that, then it should be in Greece since they started the games.
But then it should be like other countries would give support to greece since their current situation with money isn’t that great.
@@S_kare Definitely
Yeah sure and whos gonna pay for all the expenses, I remind you that the facilities have to be maintained, in addition to the expensive Olympic Villa, there are also many other expenses like food, transportation, lodging, (towels, sheets, mattresses, etc.) dolls , flowers, medals, clothes for the workers and volunteers, (also meals for all of them) and a lot of props and other things to decorate the stadiums, . It's a lot of money and no country in the world would do it. especially not Greece which is not a rich country.
the 2026 World Cup in North America is going to cost Mexico 6,600 million dollars,
-and there will only be 10 games,
-the stadiums are already built.
-It's just one sport
-with shared host countries (the USA and Canada) and it's still going to be very expensive.
@@alejandraflores731 Other countries would help pay for the upkeep. Plus Greece would receive all the tourism from he games which is the main reason why cities bid for the Olympics in the first place.
I think it's funny that "the committee taking a smaller percentage of profits" was not brought up as a possible solution
And also, what could the committee possibly need such large profits for? The hosts pay for the venues, the broadcasting, the housing, the infrastructure, the transport, the maintenance and are left at the end with a massive sports village with no future. What do the committee pay for?
@@HughMiller98 Covering the bribery.
People are less likely to suspect bribery from well funded committees.
ColasTeam : HOW Dare You !! 😁
Exactly what does holding an athletic event have to do with spending a lot of money ? The ONLY Reason why the Olympics cost so much is because Greedy Capitalists wring every miserable penny out of them that they can. That's why. The real questions are why does anyone expect the host city to put on a fancy facade and why are the Olympic Games the gratuitously spectacular events that they have become. It sounds to me like Big Business is saying that if we can't reap ever greater profits from the Olympics then let's scrap them altogether. Perhaps a more rational solution would be to severely downscale the presentation of the Olympics as well as downsizing the public's expectations of what they will get.
committee should not get so high a percentage at all, since the city government and tax payers are paying for the Olympics.
Why don’t we just reuse the damn stadiums that are already in the country
IKR!
Atlanta 2028 Olympic Games
Exactly this whole formula with having this Village in this and that needs to be changed
That's too much common sense for these people
the last time the US hosted was in 2000 and 1996. Like other countries most of those venues are either too old to use, or gone.
omg it was heartbreaking seeing that they took 70% of profit in rio, knowing that brazil lost so much money to make this event happen, this is just not fair at all...
Lies again? Hand Olympic Medals
Watching this after Tokyo 2020 games ended. It's financial burden would be bigger than any other Olympic games to date.
Wow
tokyo was a great olympics and better than rio
It’s like hosting a big party at your house. Sounds fun until you realize you gotta clean your house before AND after the party, you gotta make sure your place doesn’t get damaged, you gotta wrangle people’s kids, you gotta pray no one gets hurt on your property or you’ll get sued, you gotta order or cook enough food, etc.
And at the end of the day everyone just pretends to have a good time while wanting to get out as early as possible.
And you don't get paid for your trouble
OMG, That's exactly it!
Also lose 70% of your *****
But you have 11,238 guests staying for 16 days.
It's like hosting a HUGE party at your house. Have fun cleaning up after!
I cleaned a whole hotel room after a party i didnt even host (it was a friend's party). I never felt the same about humans after that night
LOL!!!
@Oh Yeah Yeah Commander nah, just shot dice in the bathroom with dirty shoes on, dropped (and stepped on) chocolate cake in the carpets, and soggy doritos in random cups of liquor
first off, no one in a party takes the revenue of someone else
second, the people in your party are mostly people you know, in the olympics pretty much anyone from the world can come
third, do you award people who partied the hardest?
@@lillyie you must be fun at parties lol
The London Olympics were a massive success! The entire area of the Olympic village was once a derelict industrial wasteland, now thanks to the regeneration brought on by the games it is a bustling hub with green spaces, various commercial areas and attractive residential buildings. London also made a lot of use of existing venues, structures and infrastructure which continued as normal after the games finished. Furthermore, the new venues that were build all remain in good condition and in use today. The stadium was been converted Into a multi use arena and is occupied by West Ham United football team. The velodrome and aquatics centre are open to public use and often host local sports events, and the copper box (basketball arena) is used for various events including high profile boxing matches. An excellent modern example of how to host an Olympics for the games and regenerate areas for the future.
Compare that to the Rio Olympics whose olympic-size swimming pool is now just a large hole and its many tenants are now homeless to make space for the facilities. These cities need to have a proper plan for how they will use the facilities after the games instead of just during them. If they are unable to provide a plan for maintanence for the next several years, I don't think they should be allowed to host.
And then in Rio everything went to s**t because of the corruption there 😏🤦🏼♂️
@@flanagamer All politics aside, I think that if Rio or anyone else did not have the infrastructure to begin with, they should not have been bidding in the first place.
100% true
@@OzzyTheGiant The Olympics was about politics since the beginning even in the old ancient Olympics was all about politics for the thousand years that was going on
Seeing what Tokyo went through where they had to still keep the event running without viewers it seems like hosting is looking even less lucrative
U mean spectators.
U mean live audience at the stage/ground?
Lord knows how much money they lost on that. The astronomical cost of hosting the Olympics is usually worth it due to the massive influx of tourist money that comes with it, this time they got nothing but debt.
Not like many foreigners are going to the COVID Olympics anyways.
I mean, what kinda westerner would even want to visit China besides seeing the great Wall?
They don't even have toilets to sit on, you literally have to squat over a hole in ground that's halfway filled with .. "sewage".
And God help you if you leave one of their " teir 1 cities" ( basically the cities where the government tries to keep cleanest for the most wealthy and loyal citizens).
My buddy was walking with his girlfriend, a big black guy and he would get the nastiest looks and remarks. He'd go into the store to buy whatever and the clerk would be like " hey wife, come look at this big monkey!"
Thinking he didn't understand..
@@KrolKaz I think Tokyo is in Japan?
40 billion over budget? Damn, all I want is 1 million and I’ll host it in my backyard
Galadreana Lopez r/whoosh
@Galadreana Lopez Either that was some dry sarcasm, or you're using it as an excuse
@Galadreana Lopez well, u say they have nothing else better to do yet you certainly had the time to type out all that sarcasm 🤷♀️
@Galadreana Lopez doth thou *grammar is shaking*
@Galadreana Lopez ohhh right shakespeare era english remember reading it in a book called trials of apollo by rick riordan
BUILD A PERMANANT OLYMPIC CITY INSTEAD OF BUILDING EVERY 4 YEARS...
Fixing isn't much expensive as building it, and the building wouldn't be abandoned like what happen in rio
Tears 312 Every participating country would pay a part of it
VIMALARANJAN Let a country that has plenty of finances be the site of a permanent Olympic City. Places like Dubai or Singapore, but make every participating country chip in on the construction. Make it a mall or whatever in between every Olympic games, so they have a stream of revenue for maintenance and upkeep. Do SOMETHING because the aftermath of Rio convinced me never to support Olympics until they get their act together.
Build the Olympics city in Antarctica.
❄️🐧❄️🐧
VIMALARANJAN good idea. and that would be in Greece, near original Olympos
Especially the COVID Olympics, Japan definitely drew the short straw on this one. This will be the most costliest Olympics in all of history.
And with the least viewership, they won't even recouperate as much as others would
No Beijing and Sochi cost twice as much.
Every nation should boycott the China Olympics in 2022!
@@jeffgayzose8129 Source?
Sochi was expensive because Putin gave contracts to his friends. The cost was completely arbitrary and invoices fabricated.
Just make an olympic village in a country that has all the resources available to host and just keep it in that one location forever. It will be more sustainable because the facilities could be used for summer/winter, tourists will want to visit and use the facilities, and the athletes of said home country could use it as training grounds or something.
Yeah its kinda good idea for IOC to buy a island to build every infrastructure and venue for olympics so it’ll reduce the cost. But it’d be boring imo lol
@@amehaaa7432 Better be boring than damage finances and not have Olympics altogether.
@Real Napster hey no , I like watching it 😄
@Real Napster lmao, I never knew more than half of the world is now nobody. 🤷♀️
@Real Napster I don't think so
Just put it in Greece permanently. It was their idea to begin with, and it's a nice way to boost their economy.
Do the summer games there and the winter ones like in Canada or Russia idk
IKR😉.
Even if the stadiums exist, they need to be improved, changed,... If Greece made headlines during the last years it was about money and debt or struggle with arriving migrants, so I am not sure if Greece could manage to do it on their own. I guess it's more likely that a permanent venue would be in China or Qatar or somewhere similar. Money rules and why other states might have the financial possibilities (the US, France, Germany, Canada, Australia,...) they have free speech as well and might face huge protests against such ideas.
It was our ancestors's "idea" but only for the Greeks, not for the whole world. Sooo no. Also I don't want extra money. I already pay for the damn expensive -but still beautiful- bridge of Rio Antirio. Now that I think about it it's probably the only facility that is still usable since the Olympics.... :(
We dont want them! This is an insult to our History. You can keep your fake Olympics.
How about they quit building new stadiums and use cities that have almost everything they need.
Blah like LA or London
What if a city that doesn't have everything wants to host it though? Do they have to build all the infrastructure before they even get the certainty they will host the Olympics?
F. OPE What you said is happening now. There should be a loop of the 5 major cities that are suitable to host the olympic games or 2 permanent hosts, one for the winter games and one for the summer games. It is not smart financially to keep running the games like they have been ran, and it's a huge waste to build an entire venue for the winter/summer games for it only to be used once. And if a city wants to host the games they have to prove they are a worthy candidate and they have to ackowledge the fact that what they're doing will likely operate at a loss in the long-term.
Well, I think there are some cities that are willing to host the games as it is if some changes are made that they are at least close to viable financially. Rather than it always being hosted by one or a small number of cities, I think they could make a system in which even if fewer cities host the OG and they don't have to build everything anew, new cities have the chance to try to host and it doesn't become an exclusive club of four or five european, north american and east asian cities.
F. OPE but either way it's a club with a very expensive membership. Also, it would be a club for countries with large cities.
The only thing with having a permanent city host is “home court advantage”. I could see how that would be controversial
I guess they could make the rule that competitors from the country cannot use the olympic facilities to train, then they shouldn't have any advantage
I doubt that is as much an issue as more political concerns - and IOC concerns about esteem and media revenues. Any Olympics that looks the same every four years is not nearly as flashy. That is going to lead to a decline in global viewers of Olympics events.
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So basically you spend billions to build a small city for an event that last less than a month then it’s deserted.
i would have thought that the clear fix would be "Don't take 70%+ of the income"
How can you expect them to be less selfish? *SHOCK* That would mean they would have to put millions of other peoples happiness above their own 😥.
Well maybe if they got an administration that wasn't corrupt then this could go better ways. I mean Denmark as well as its Scandinavian neighbors are currently listed as the least corrupt countries in the world, maybe getting a few Scandinavians or just people who are just less greedy in there could really start to shake things up
isnt it ironic. the triumph sign of peace in ancient greek turned into a pure businese in 21st century.
@@purpleb3106 it's cos it's corrupt they always want money
@@4EEBS yeah but a they only take 4% just 30 years ago
"Could we be watching the death of the olimpics?"
2020: *corona time*
It is postponed to 2021
It is ajoke
@@miss_daisy4925 that was a bad joke. It was just postponed not dead
@@emmjayyguemo The Spanish Flu lasted for 3 years, we might still be dealing with high COVID numbers in 2021.
Are The Olympics even happening NOW?
I can't picture it with Convid-19 crisis in the way.
Why don’t they rotate with the previous hosts since they’ve already built the venues therefore there would me more use for the structures that are built so they may be maintained
3:00 I'm guessing that list doesn't include: "the IOC should stop taking such a massive cut", nor building infrastructure with future goals in mind (i.e. build the Olympic village in such a way that future businesses can use them without too much revision)
One the first part. Of course not. But on the second part, they actually are trying to take bids that are more futureproofed or using existing infrastructure . They’re greedy but they don’t purposefully want to harm the cities that host, a parasite doesn’t want to kill its host.
@@roychen5235because it's more environmentally friendly. Canada spun it as environmentally friendly because we didn't have the money to spend to build new facilities. We only built a few new ones and told the Ioc take it or leave it. Since barely anyone wanted it, they took it.
Yeah we want to use your city for the Olympics, BUT you pay for all of the infrastructure and we take 70% of the profit
More like "we want you to want to use your city for the Olympics, but you have to pay for everything and we take all the money. What do you do with the buildings after? Really not our problem"
Oof
@Mathieu Levert Why accept bids from locations you can assume won't reasonably be able to handle the event and its aftermath?
Also they went over budget significantly, hard to make your plans work if there's no money left. Perhaps they budgeted for dismantling of the sites but ended up not being able to afford it because of that.
On top of it, it's hard to plan for fitting in the infrastructure if the IOC requirements are insanely high and thus simply aren't adequate for the remaining less modern city infrastructure. Your shuttles can be super nice, but won't work if the next district still uses decaying rusty mid-20C bus systems
Carefully evaluate your candidates. The IOC stands for building a better world (through sport), not for taking money and letting their partner cities ruin themselves over it. Turn them down, learn to better account for corruption. They absolutely have to take a major part of the blame if they profile themselves as humanitarians and still allow for this garbage to happen.
How about instead, we form public grassroots movements to oppose hosting in our cities, wasting our tax dollars and if you show your fat, worthless faces around here, we'll introduce you to Madame Guillotine?
@Mathieu Levert therefore it is the fault of the committee, after all
>City spends billions building an Olympic stadium
>Committee takes 70% of the revenue
>Stadium completely abandoned
>Less cities are willing to bid
Committee: Pikachu Face
😂😂😂
And that's how capitalist works 😔
Ferruzzicati I agree. We still use the stadiums
Should be 50/50
@@elusive7578 🤣🤣🤣👍
I feel so sorry for the Tokyo Olympics for it’s unluckiness of coinciding with the pandemics
In a land that pays attention to " bad omens"... That was a disaster. Even in their own city the japanese people protested... Thunderstorms and tsunamis covered the front of the games as well... Quite poetic.
@@blackleague212 The Olympic committee is also an asshole organization that contributed little funding to the event while bankrupting a BUNCH of countries
That's the reason why developing nations don't want to host the Olympics as the costs for infrastructure is high.
Well said 🤝
Also it creates lots of pollution and debt.
Maybe because countries like India Pakistan or Bangladesh are just shitholes?
@@jonathanng138 stfu
@@jonathanng138 like china u mean? Ng = nutty goblin ? 😁
I never understood why they spend billions on stadiums that are most likely never gonna be used again.
N-word Surfer yeah. But if they just build 1 permanent Olympic park and take care of it, it would still look cool.
@@Joe-ni6wj you're the only one Maximillian pfp user that I like
The only one I know that is still in use is the Sydney stadiums, theyre used for concerts, sporting events, festivals, ect. I could be wrong though, there might still be some in other countries that are used
They should still be used again to maximize profits. The other abandoned stadiums are just mismanaged.
*lmao it’s like buying a wedding dress...*
"Why dont we just refurbish the same stadiums each year?"
The olympic committee:
*suprised pikachu face*
That’s what I do t understand. Why not rotate it through those that already have the facilities. Lessons will be learned and improved upon for the second round
Why do the Olympics have to be in one city? Why can't a country be the host? Before virus took over Tokyo was going to move the Marathon to Sapporo which made sense for several reasons. The temperatures in Tokyo during the summer are excessively hot where in Sapporo they are very mild. Second, security around Tokyo is a nightmare, especially for a large event in an unconfined area. Sapporo it is easier to watch the people coming and going. Also how many people would travel to Sapporo for just one event? Only the locals would probably show up. Tokyo was (pre-Covid) also worried about adding millions of tourists to its already overburdened transportation system. If they could have spread events to like half in Tokyo and half in Osaka it would have been very helpful.
the idea of olympics is to unite the world in a community, to celebrate our shared valurs between cultures. when the modern olympic games started, there was a proposition to be permanently held in greece, but was decided against, in favor of sharing it with the world. many people could only travel 100-200km to visit the games, most people probably even less. if it was held in the same place every year, probably more than 90% of the world population would be unable to attend, which could lead to a serious decrease in interest for the games.
Yeah! There are plenty of places in Canada (just to name one example) that already have Olympic level stadiums available to use so why not rotate through them?
@@simplig1272 So you are saying the games should be held in Narnia or Vulgaria.
Why not have them in Greece, the birthplace of the Olympics, every time? All the countries competing could donate funds to build and maintain the various venues. One or more countries could be chosen each time to be the "Sponsor" or to be recognized in some way as the host.
This would stop the insane practice of having the host being responsible for erecting and maintaining new facilities, which usually ends up with that country going into insurmountable debt, with the facilities falling into ruins after the Games are over.
If Greece doesn't want to do this, then perhaps build 4 or 5 venues and rotate the Olympics between them, but have all the participating countries pay the costs of building and maintaining the facilities.
Cutting down on the number of sports would certainily help too. As more "sports" are added the Olympics become a bloated monster.
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why should sports be cut down
But than Greece should donate the land to IOC to create like a Olympic City. The Olympics shouldn't be a bargain of governments.
@@vitormascarenhas4884 that's because it was originally a bargain of governments
I don’t think there should ever be a permanent host, however it would be easy for cities like London, LA, Sydney, Tokyo, Beijing (& possibly Barcelona and Athens if the infrastructure is slightly updated) to host in the near future as the basis for the olympics is still there with many of the stadiums being updated regularly.
Perhaps the best course of action would be to have multiple permanent hosts in cities with already existing facilities or those with plans for how they would use the newly built facilities for the future after the Games. The Games could just be held in each of those cities on rotation and the cities that aren't preparing for the Games would convert the facilities for public use.
They can hold a permanent location at Olympia Greece ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Greece should be the permanent host
@@78anurag that probably would have worked if they hadn’t already started the tradition of moving it every year
It will end up like UN veto power. France UK and Russia may have have been relevant in 1945 but they will increasing be irrelevant in the coming future (at least UK and France).
"Why Hosting The Olympics Isn't Worth It Anymore"
Me, waiting for Tokyo 2020:
Me hoping that in 2028, Los Angeles dosent host the Olympics
@The Cereal Tree oops
@@Cakerpie the traffic is already horrendous and the Los Angeles Population is like 5 million so.
Brianna Nava Los Angeles population is WAYYY above 1mil. What are you on?
@@darkworldbeats oh lmao. Its cuz I read that California is 39 million, but I read it as 3.9 million so I thought about 1 million, but yes that even worse. And no I am not on anything lol. I am only twelve
The Olympics is like a highschool reunion at someone's house. No one wants anyone to come over but they also really want to have one.
eryn perez 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 love it
More like no one wants to host it but everyone wants to come over
And the guests leave upper deckers in the toilet for old times sake.
@@KrolKaz I just searched what that is and what the f, who the hell does that *shit*
that literally made no sense great job lol
"Two previous hosts, Salt Lake City and Sapporo, Japan"
Calgary hosted the Winter Olympics as well, so that should be three.
wrong
Lake Placid also hosted.
@@maka8551 They hosted the 1988 Winter Games. Look it up.
So now the Olympic committee has to beg cities to host them 🤣😂🤣
So the Olympic organization took almost all the revenue from Rio and expect countries to keep bidding? WTF are they doing with all that money?
They keep it, for themselves personally. It's a giat mafia-like organization and needs to go.
Bradley Noneofyourbizz everything’s a giant mafia ffs capitalism is so wrong/s
It is like FIFA with Joseph Blatter. Totally a mafia.
Swami of Six Paths because communism worked he first iem it was implemented, and let me add the fact the communism has killed 94 million people.
same that what fifa does with their world cups
Going from 4% television Revenue up to 70% what the f*** is going on
Yeah what the hell is the IOC doing with these billions of dollars??
Stephen Gregson bonuses for the board the same level of corruption that happens in fifa, icc and the one for swimming
All about the Benjamins...
@@richardhills6952 It's not like one big sport committee have been condemned for massive corruption despite having a reserve of ONE BILLION DOLLARS. (Fifa/Joseph Blatter)
does anyone even believe in that sham they call the Olympics anymore..
everyone is doping. judges are being bribed, games are rigged,
i stopped watching the Olympics after the marion jones scandal. its all fake.
4:45 Cut to 2021 where 70% of Tokyo doesn't want the Olympics to take place during Covid - 19.
Of course they wouldn't want massive amount of people from all around the world in their city during a pandemic
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Move the Olympics to a permanent place at Olympia in Greece 🇬🇷 where the Ancient Olympics were hosted
I agree
i also agrees on this 1
“[Los Angeles] has the transportation infrastructure”
Me, an LA resident: “AHAHAHA”
SAME MATE LA RESIDENT HERE TOO.
I honestly don't want to have the Olympics be permanent here in LA
@@thearmobro6390 that would be horrible it's already expensive enough to live in la not to mention the traffic
imagine everyone driving to the stadiums on the 405 at the same time... what a nightmare
@@ryanpfahler9945 Exactly that would be hell
List 20 things that could fix it... it sounds like the list should go like this:
#1 - Reduce the IOC cut of revenue
#2 - Reduce the IOC cut of revenue
#3 - Reduce the IOC cut of revenue
#4 - ....
CreeDo Lala What about bonus step #21? Eliminate the IOC
You're not making any sense. Surely there's gotta be a better way to drum up support for the Olympics than to take the most obvious and logical suggestion that you're making.
@@labadaba5088 if the countries unanimously boycott (includes London since they're a default) it could work. Refuse to bid/host the Olympics unless the IOC takes a lower fixed percentage share of profits like 10% maybe. Could solve the problem.
@@irrelevance3859 yup, all the cities that would traditionally be strong bidders should boycott bidding. However, smaller countries hungry for glory and counties seeking legitimacy in the eyes of Western media, they would still bid. The IOC is too greedy to care.
@@abiye8056 it's funny because the smaller countries wants their athletes to go play but aren't willing to host the Olympics because they know they can't afford it but it would actually help them if brought more tourist in
This aged incredibly well
Considering that just this week, an online Minecraft competition pulled in more viewers than the Olympics which was happening at the same time......
is the competition MCC?
@@PoofessorP it is
@@markjestermatote7774 I mean the olympics had 15 million+ ppl watching so :V idk how much mcc gets though since I just watch highlights
Drop the number josh, i'd like to know.
Athens, Greece should be the permanent host for Olympics. Olympics originated in Greece 🇬🇷.
It would make perfect sense.
But they are broke
ShadowKiller all countries will contribute afterall it will be the home of the Olympics.
Honestly that's a good idea.
It was the Olympics that helped bankrupt Greece.
2:15
This yellow capped man was so ambitious, he swam right out of the pool. He just kept going.
And swam backwards too
Thats what you call dedication
Dedication level at its peak ...
Bugay Den 😂
😂😂😂😂
Now I understand why a lot of the stuff in Tokyo Olympics were recycled
Imagine how Japan felt having no spectators or normal revenue from people coming to watch. Ouch.
Instead of a permanent host city why don't the games rotate between cities that have already hosted the games. That way infrastructure is already in place and can be more appropriately maintained until the games return.
Chris L that is a very good idea as a permanent host would not be good for tv viewers for example if a Citizen of New York is watching the olympics and the permanent host is Tokyo timing would be very off and some events would be shown at ridiculous times of the day. Also a moving host would keep the events fresh and not make the olympics boring
Piers Marchant Permanent host city meaning :
When a country bids for the Olympics, they bid with the same CITY over and over again, thus eliminating the need for the bidding countries to build new infrastructure in another city. One permanent host city Per country. E.g.: LA for US, Beijing for China, e.t.c. Countries may maintain a second City for Winter Olympics.
Chris L. has the best and smartest answer going.Pick a city for winter and summer on the appropriate continent and rotate the games making sure each host country is reimbursed properly for time and money spent.Wall-a,problem SOLVED!!!!!
Chris L usually some old stadiums are required to be demolished; like Tokyo.
They could have kept the stadium if they were trying to keep to a strict budget. They just took the opportunity to replace it. Which is fine... all central Tokyo venues have no problem being well-used considering Japanese love for sports and music.
Perhaps more importantly... they "kicked" the Americans out of the western Yamanote region to use as the Olympic Village. And then built Yoyogi Park on top of it after the games finished. So they have to make a new Olympics Village over near the harbor district. So what would have happened if they had maintained the space? It's the large green space between Harajuku and Shibuya... It's hard to say if things (in a pop culture sense) would have developed the way it has without that park being there preventing heavy development on top of Harajuku. The point is...Japan traded military housing for a park- trying to maintain some of the less important infrastructure would have been a detriment moving forward.
As a native of Chicago it’s crazy we lost the bid knowing all the damage that the games did to Rio. Very grateful my city was spared
The last time I have been to the 60644 was 25 years ago. My question is this, do yall have the land space to host an Olympic game?
They do, by the lake, soldier field and the south side.
They tore down so much high rise low income housing on the southside just for the bidding process. In hindsight, the low rises needed to be demolished anyways, but it was even more of a slap of a face that they forced people out and STILL didn’t win the bid.
@@daradiant1
Well Chicago already has a lot of necessary infrastructure. It has one of the world’s largest and most internationally connected airports. It has plenty of massive arenas and stadiums like the United Center and Soldier Field. It has plenty of highways connecting the city. It has other forms of infrastructure like the metro and etc. Yeah Chicago could also pull it off.
It would be a detroit 2.0
Brisbane Australia just celebrated they’re hosting 😂
Idk why they chose here, ain't nothing to see or do.
And nobody bidded against them then acted all surprised when they won ahhahhha
I live in Brisbane, don’t want it. I would have voted against it, but atleast we already have mostly up to date things, especially since the Gold Coast hosted the commonwealth games I guess… but still
I wasn't thrilled when I heard Brisbane won it. But hopefully the infrastructure is in place and Gold Coast hosting Commonwealth Games recently probably helps. Sad to see all those abandoned venues in Rio, what a waste of money...
But Brisbane already has everything with them.... Their infrastructure is kinda good and yeah if there's no natural calamity occurring 2032 should be good.... But again it's in 11 years anything can happen.
We should just have a medium island somewhere, owned by the Olympics that just hosts everything there. In between the games have to open to professional athletes for training or something.
Cool idea
So a bit like Alcatraz
@@_mr_habibi_8546 yeah
Im not accountant but i know 4% is totally far less than 70%
Uh?
Greed at its finest
No Name you don’t need to be an accountant to know that tho
No Name thanks I was wondering. 🤣
Khan Asad that was the point
I personally think there should be a permanent summer game city and winter game city. Seems best economically, environmentally, and the most efficient.
Who pays for the 'city'? The taxes every 5 years?
Probably honestly
Isaiah Wilhite God I hope it’s not LA. The traffic is going to be 50x atrocious.
Isaiah Wilhite perhaps a neutral country that is large enough to accommodate both athletes and visitors
Yeah, but what cities? LA, why not Moscow, or Berlin, or Rio, or Tokyo; it would be impossible to decide.
This aged well
It did when you consider the hosts are bidding as much anymore
One of the issues is that cities and countries try to spend billions of infrastructure that in many cases isn't needed. The Olympics would be a lot more special without the grand buildings. It would be much more magical to utilize the current infrastructure. For example, using LA memorial stadium instead of creating a giant billion dollar "Olympic Stadium". The simpler, the more memorable.
The IOC took 70% last games😲...well there is your problem. Give them only 10% for starters.
tawhneebaby That's what I thought. Like how do they not think 'hey, maybe this greedy is a bad thing long-term?'
10% is already too much. 2% and be happy about it. Its 2% out of billions. Still in the tens of millions
they probably took the other 30% in advance in bribes as well
Exactly. The issue is the percentage IOC takes from the games. It’s so much money. Anything higher than 25% taken from the game by them is bound to kill city property values.
Let's be straight, the percentage of money taken by companies and individuals from Brazil's Olympic Games are probably of 200%-300%, but obviously that won't be on a graph considering most of it came from corruption.
Update: Japan has understandably flipped on support for Olympics during the pandemic. They are now 80% against hosting it instead of 2018's 80% in favor.
Tokyo are the hosts not the entirety of Japan, no?
@@mybusinessaccount4408 yes that is correct... but it's the idea that it effects the entire country's economy... once money gets blown... let's just say 30B... then the whole country going to be facing budget cuts...
They missed 20% of the population in the survey.
@@mybusinessaccount4408 It is called the Tokyo Olympics but events are scattered throughout northern Japan. Tokyo does not have the sporting facilities for all the events by itself. Also many of the teams would have been staying in really far out places during the events, so it is really an Eastern Japan Olympics.
@@ada_unknown_2738 You're just speaking out of your a.rse mate. No one really cares about the economic effect as much the humanitarian one. Regional heads in countries like Japan and China are not on a tight budget to start with.
Many people are against the Olympics because of Covid, nothing more.
- Japanese guy
Watching this during Tokyo Olympics 2020 that's being held on Japan in 2021
Maybe London could be one of the hosts considering they use the big stadium for athletics if it comes to London and they’ve still got the infrastructure from 2012??
why England??? Greece should be its natural host
@@astrofabio68 well I don’t know it was a suggestion considering most of the stadiums are abandoned and derelict while London still uses majority of them. I do know Greece is the nature host but I swear the last time they held it , it somewhat lead to the recession
No thanks. Public transport is already extremely busy. Plus, most of the land has been converted into parks and living estates anyway.
@@benalkan8559 well like i said just a suggestion it’s not the decision
Just give it to past hosts who already have the infrastructure etc
What if they don’t want to host it
Nishan was here like beijing since they have a big track
Better idea
@@GamerBoy-ij2sv ask them first lol... it won't cost as much if you already have the stadiums and venues ready...
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Detroit should host it so the runners don’t know what gunshot is the starting one
🤣
Nah. Detroit is full of hipsters now.
Actually maybe it might be good for Detroit... It could bring in investment and international exposure. Why not?
LOL - great idea: thinking out of the box.. ok- I will add too: ..and then - those runners, while running, can attend to do some jobs for emergency personnel, who are slower (~2 hrs to arrive) on wheels than runners are on foot.
You're too savage to be funny.
I like the idea of a certain permanent place! I think the right place to do it is in Greece, since they were the “founders”. But The Olympics are not only about the games, it’s also about the felling to host it, like the ceremonies, it also helps the tourism. Should we sacrifice that?
if you want to pay that "celebration" with more taxes..go ahead!
Well they can bring them permanently to Greece and every four years it can be a co-host country as a guest that along with Greece will organise the event,the opening ceremony,the logos etc!
Or they can host it in the 5 country’s the Olympic Rings stand for
@@bulansalya1950 the rings are about continents not countries
Solution: be in equal sharing!
70% goes to them and they expect the host to provide everything thing?? Lol no wonder fewer cities are bidding to host. Crocodiles
If a permanent place, why not Athens, Greece? Because the Olympics originate from there and it would only be fair to bring it back to it's roots
JerKKeR Greece? lol they're broke cause all of this
Joel Schembri yes but once they have their equipment, re-using over and over again would bring more profit then spending
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Yeah I agree. It should be in Greece permanently. They would have an initial cost for building a permanent Olympic City, but the cost would be worth in the long term.
Also, if they host it permanently they would be backed by the EU with the costs, so it wouldn’t be a big financial problem for Greece
+Joel Schembri
Of course because they have no other reason to use it nor is it being used or maintained
outside of hosting an Olympics . No wonder why they see no reason to fix and keep up
their Olympic Infrastructure .
A very interesting take on why countries are not very keen on hosting the Olympics. But I believe, with the huge costs and everything, it brings immense popularity for the host country and other countries just start taking them more seriously. Olympics are an amazing opportunity for athletes around the world and NYXS is actively working on preparing individuals to give their best
Rip Brisbane for the 2032
Just depends on the city/country. London olympics was the best thing to happen to the city; total regeneration of east London - less crime, better living standards, better local economy. Along with the monumental infrastructure changes to accommodate disabled people. It was an amazing Olympic Games, made 2012 a great year. Rio olympics was a total sham.
I agree
Hear hear!
💯 true!!
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Yea, they didn't even reused the rio olympic buildings anymore now the complex is basically a ghost town inside a big city
I remember as a kid wanting to watch them and getting hyped for it,years and years ago but now I can’t remember the last time I watched the olympics
As a Jamaican the last time I watched the Olympics was 2016, now that Bolt has retired I'm not sure when me or the rest of Jamaica will be hyped up to watch the Olympics again
@@afia7425 well...those were literally the last Olympics so...
Lol i love the winter Olympics much more, but i could not hold in my excitement for this years Olympics only for it to be postponed due to our lord and savior the year 2020
A part of that is due to publicity is different and where to watch. It used to be on public TV but NBC has a hold over the rights which means peacock is the only 'streaming' service. You have to pay to watch.
I think the Olympics and sports in general is just such a stupid thing. Imagine putting yourself through years of mental and physical pain for a piece of metal. That's incredibly dumb.
That piece of metal bears a value you peabrain. No one runs after the metal, it is the value and recognition that they create. One can make a career out of it, if he isn't a peabrain.
Yeah atleast they should get some money
For those who think It should be in a Specific *Island*
IOC:Then My extra *corruption* and *Bribe* issues will be in stake.
dear sports:
stop relying on taxpayers for your games.
Who is going to build the facilities then?
TheThirdMan joe
nicely said
@@thethirdman225 noone.... Noone will die of we omit these games or championships
Zh L No facilities- no sports.
1, costs too much money
2, the olympics doesnt pay ANY taxes.
AND if you host the olympics any where, it should be in Greece, no??
After Olympics my land must pay too match money now
S Dew no because Greece is actually the least mature with there money
just renovate……say if for example atlanta host the winter olympics in 2030 renovate the 1996 summer olympic venue
All consistent competing countries/IOC/UN find an island and build the Olympic city for the summer and some ice place for the winter games. Each countries contributes x amount of money for construction and such. Build a functioning city around the area for people who want to live there, and in between Olympics, it’s used as a tourist destination with hall of fames and world records and other attractions, which allows a constant flow of revenue. In theory it sounds great but it would definitely be hard to even find the island
Here after Tokyo hosted the Olympics 2020/2021
2:35 That's wrong. Seville is a Spanish city 🇪🇸
Seriously, build ONE EPIC olympic city or choose a site and make it permanent. A permanent olympic collesseum, stadium, olympic pool, multiple olympic venues villages and everything. But ALWAYS in one place.
Turn out not many people would fly over to island to see it
Who's going to fund it and where will it be located. It will be empty for four years at a time and still require upkeep and they'd need to make TWO Olympic cities in a medium climate for the summer games and cold climate for winter games*. It's not practical
Irrelevance It wont be empty for 4 years. There will be many things held there
@@aaebsssb9914 Olympic held every 4 year what is it?
T GM Other sporting events, concerts, festivals...
For those of you who are saying put the Olympics back in Greece since that’s where they came from originally,
Realty Check-Greece can’t afford it.
Idea would be the countrys participating would joint fund it.
not bad
Funded internationally in Greece is the way to stop all the backhanders, the IOC and international athletics should pay for everything and own everything as a permanent feature, funded by participating nations, tv advertising etc, the profits would be there if no bidding and no building was required, therefore not affording it wouldn`t matter, as Greece wouldn`t be paying, they would profit from land sales and tourism, and free advertising, i agree. And Greece is a bit more central, California is about as far from anywhere else as you can get, and Greece wouldn`t benefit so much from home advantage as they are less of a contender.
Then IOC should pay for it with the billions they steal from host countries every olympics.
literally America could just pay for it
Fast forward 3 years... this needs updating ... serious updating
3:45 this is a great idea even back in the day in Greece they where hosted at the same place every 4 years so it would make sense for us to do it too
All of y'all saying build an island a permanent city i just have one word for you.
"Profiteering"
You think the IOC and its managers didn't think of this. Well, guess again.
Yeah that's such a terrible idea. They expect the IOC to function as a mini government that receives funding from every participating country and NOT be corrupt? Lmao
No, i dont get it. Please explain.
People in these comments think they are smarter than an entire group of professionals 💀💀
@@davidtogi5878 For such a place to even exist in the first place they need to get funding from every participating country and you can’t just not expect there to be some massive corruption scandal
@@viacrucishector1821 yes no matter how meticulous your control area there will always be corruption. The problem is whether or not such corruption gonna makes the organization and its program failed. This idea of moving them to a permanent place was never about stopping corruption, but optimizing asset's usage. That is why i dont understand what you guys are talking about. Let them corrupt, just make sure when the program failed someone gonna pay for it.
IOC:Increase cuts of profit.
People don’t want to host olympics now
IOC:Surprised Pikachu Face!
YES
Why must a city in America be the permanent host, why not Beijing London or a city in Greece where the Olympics Originate from.
Americans make up something like half the viewership and you really cut ratings and revenue if events are happening at 4 AM U.S. time.
Wait but shouldn’t the permanent location for at least the summer games be Athens? I mean that’s where it all started right?
I agree somewhat, but Greece is not exactly known for its good economical situation. So, LA makes more sense when it comes to finances.
Z. Z. I think there are a number of countries that could do it besides LA, Melbourne Australia has a lot of facilities to host events. I think there may be biased towards having it in America
If it wasn't in Athens I'd nominated London, Beijing or Tokyo
There are abandoned stadiums all over world falling apart.
Pepehands
that is true, most of 2004 and 2008 stadiums are litteraly abondonated and non used, here on Brazil we are barely dont know what to make with our instalations, only some are propper used and Rio de Janeiro has fallen down for a worst violence than before the games
Sapporo, Turin, (Maybe Sochi) dismotned some instaltions and even peyongchang will have to do it after the games with some beacuse they have nothing else to do after the games (including the olympic stadium where the serimony will happen in a few hours will be desmonteled after the para-games beacuse they dont have a fuck to do with the stadium after the games) or is too expensive to mantain
The British Government were very smart in the way they played out with the 2012 London olympics as most if not all the resources are due to be reused as other projects.
Theyre the elites leftovers. They come in, take away, abandon, and ignore.
Yeah the 2012 stadium is still being used by West Ham football team
*Why won’t we just tell North Korea to Host the Olympics. They are rich and has lot of free real estate.*
Yeah and they will win all medals 😂
😂😂😂
If that happened, of course Kim will be like Aladeen and shoot the runners so he can win the 40 meter dash. 😅😅
Max kellerman lmao
The guy addressed it in the video about Pyongyang that they destroyed a mountain and all, so watch the video again.
I live in Vancouver. There are very few Olympic legacy monuments left from 2010. Most of the infrastructure is still in use. But the biggest positive that came out of the game is the short and long term employment the games bought. Many people still use their employment experience on their resume
For medals also basically its fight between some top countries others are like crowd only but whenever anyone wins it gives a proud moment
Just move it back to Greece and keep it small. It's gotten way out of hand. If we want something big, we should revive the old World's Fair.
I absolutely agree about the World Fair. Giving attention to bold new inventions and innovations should be more important than athletics.
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Pat Downs Greece has no money for that
@Darth Ruin No it wouldnt. It would destroy as. Are stadium is garbage. We would have to rebuild it or make a new one and we dont have money for that. Also it would just bring tourism something we already have. Also lets not forget that one of the main reasons we went bankrupt was because of the olympics in 2004
Greece would make money from having it though: They wouldn't need to build new stuff every year (or at least not a lot), and they'd have a massively popular event there every four years.
I feel like instead of cities bidding for Olympics, there should be cities on a list (10-15) that host the Olympics . They can be shuffled out and no one city gets the pain of crowds every 4 years.
elysia barr yep, Atlanta would be a good pick for that
It's like here in my country or should I say my neighbours and few family members.
They wanted to celebrate and held a big birthday party, doesn't matter if they don't have any extra money or savings, they usually and normally lend, so they have something to spend.
And after the celebration comes to the big headache of how to pay that debt.
Ironic how this comes in my recommendation during the Olympics 2020 --_--
Why not reuse older stadiums?
MrGabenLand II I was wonder why they don’t do that more too
Its because most of it is degrading. How do youse a ceremonial ground regularly? special paths for athletes? So they just destroy it and build other useful things like businesses. Just let greece host the olympics and salt lake city the winter olympics EVERY YEAR. Steady revenue less damage to the environment.
Mark Pagtama like greece can host the games lol
Because those stadiums dont have the equipments for every sport in olympic. In brazil, there are tons of football stadium, but I doubt there are as many swimming pool facilities as football stadiuma
+Mark Pagtama ikr
I can see plenty of people not being cool with a big international event being hosted in the USA 100% of the time. Maybe there could be multiple host cities in multiple countries?
Timothy McLean Yeah only for countries that already have facility in place. Meaning first world, high income countries. Not poor ass Brazil.
Timothy McLean
Your forgetting transportation honey m.
Justin Moua brazil shouldnt be bidding for any olympic hosting rights in the first place. And if it’s in first world countries safety for the attendees wouldnt be such a risk.
Geo & Pixels first world countries have all necessary transportation measures in place now with a good amount of reserve busses on stand by already honey
Timothy McLean I object too
They need to convert old stadiums into sports/arts classrooms & venues. They still are recovering in Atlanta, GA and Chicago, IL. Allow homeless to become " Outdoor Teachers" and teach the youth sports, survival techniques, whatever business they know, and so forth.
Apparently they will have to be held at cities that already have facilities in place. Have to give hopeful future host cities time to save up money. Fun fact, the '32 winter Olympics were to be held in Wightwood CA northeast of Los Angeles. The worlds largest ski jump at the time had already been built but lack of snow forced a venue change to Lake Placid. I used to ski/board in wrightwood and even for that era it seems too small to have hosted the event. I wonder how much the quaint little town of wrightwood would have changed had they received a big snowfall that year
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ah yes, 4% of the profit to the IOC... now its 70%
WAIT wHAT
Capitalism doing what it does best :)
@@KorZen10 was there no capitalism back in the 90’s or did they just get greedy?
@@bigballs8188 They got greedy.
Maybe one permanent city per continent? So it could keep rotating.
It's like those industrialized countries and with stable government and economy. Let's say 3 continents that can regularly host the events. Like in
Asia (Japan, China, Korea)
North America (USA, Canada)
Europe (Many European countries can host the Olympics)
I think this is one of the best solutions. A cycle of host every 4 years. Like next Olympic will be in Asia (Japan 2020), then the next will be in Europe 2024, then next will be in North America 2028. Then the cycle continues, Asia again.... and so on. Instead of doing that in those developing poor countries that later on will struggle economically with a massive debt.
E B there are African nations and south American nations that could host. They fucked up in Brazil, but South Africa got better because of the Olympics. Next place maybe Nigeria or Angola, they are growth economies.
@@Churros1616 Nigeria and Angola to host the Olympics??? Are you insane or have no common sense? These two countries are struggling with a large number of poor citizens! Let their governments spend the money to uplift the lives of their poor people and feed them instead. That's the best thing they could do instead of hosting that Olympics, a very expensive sporting event.
But I agree and vote for South Africa. They can host the games.
But Nigeria and Angola??? NO, NO, NO, NO, NOOOO!!!!
E B that is exactly what happened, next year is Japan, the next summer one in France and the next summer one after that is united states
@@LifeOdysseyMotivation India is also interested in Hosting 2032 now...Don't know how we'll do it 😂
Barely mananged to host CWG 2010.
I think Atlanta did one of the best jobs of planning what to do with everything after the olympics
If they were to make a whole land just for the Olympic they could just make it public or let college students such as private school have access to it. I think it would make the citizens much happier.