Greg Maddux would dominate in any baseball era. Greatest control pitcher ever. And greatest fielding pitcher ever. No one will match his 18 Gold Gloves
Great pitcher, no doubt-but no one dominated like Koufax in the 60s. He was a very good fielder, but it wasn’t much of an issue either way because guys couldn’t touch him. They usually knew what he was gonna throw but it didn’t matter-I think it was Ernie Banks who said “you knew you were going to get embarrassed.” Mantle hit something like .145 career against him. Curve ball was legendary. He was amazing to watch, even if you weren’t a Dodgers fan.
@@michaelayers3998 only guy who really succeeded against Sandy was Hank Aaron whom I believe hit .382 against him-will check and correct if am wrong-checked Aaron hit.362 against Koufax (42/'116, 7 HR's and an 1.077 OPS)
The umps gave him a plate with 3 extra inches on the outside corner and 3 extra inches on the inside corner against the Indians In the 1995 World Series.
Tony Gwynn was a great hitter-and a good guy-but I go back 65 years watching baseball, and I still think Pete Rose was the absolute last guy you’d want to face if a game was on the line. He had a mean streak that drove him to get a hit even if the Reds were down 8 runs with two out in the ninth-and even more so if the pitcher had a no-hitter going. He’d get a hit just to ruin it. I hated him.
Maybe. I started in early sixties and see your point. Gwynn was .338 lifetime compared to Rose's .303. One interesting stat is Gwynn struck out once every 23.6 plate appearances, compared to once every 13.9 for Pete. But still, I see your point.
@@ron88303 No question Gwynn was a better “pure” hitter than Rose. All I’m saying is that Rose was deadly in the clutch-the bigger the moment, the more dangerous he was.
I was born and raised a Yankees fan, but I loved watching him pitch. I always thought of him as more of a technician than a thrower. I'd take him on my team anytime.
I think Maddux felt that way about Tony because of what he said earlier in the conversation - he wanted to keep guys in front of the outfielders and not walk anyone. Gwynn wasn't walking much, and he wasn't hitting many home runs. He was just the type of hitter who could get to Greg the most.
When I was much younger, like Greg, I would often say "you know" and did not realize it until a neighbor started replying "no, I don't know" every time I would say it. I thought it was rude at the time, but it worked. I stopped saying "you know" every few seconds. Greg Maddux is right there with Jim Palmer as the greatest pitchers I ever saw, but he could use a little help with his "you knows," you know what I mean?
Greg was spot on about the "Quality Start". I feel that 6 innings with 3 earned runs is not a quality start. Like Greg said that's a 4.50 ERA. That is not quality in both our opinions.
I was a Padres fan for much of my life. Tony Gwynn was and is my favorite baseball player of all time. I don't know if Greg Maddux answers this question in this video...but I've long known that Gwynn had a ridiculous .450 lifetime batting average against Maddux (Maddux was aware of it) and a high batting average against other great pitchers as well. Think of it: A .450 batting average against Greg Maddux.
Maddux had control where Ryan didnt have the control Greg had. Ryan also never won a Cy Young. Nolan is an all time great no question, but Maddux was better.
I think Ryan was just as good. 7 no hitters the last when he was 44. Ryan on the Braves would have won multiple Cy Youngs because they scored runs although I never cared for Bobby Cox and his awful managerial decisions in multiple world series. Greg Maddox was on the best ever and that was with an 87 mph fastball in the second half of his career. If everyone would have pitched like him they would all have made it to 44 and made a lot more money.
@@stocksgoupward5922 Maybe. Lifetime ERA of 3.16 compared to 3.19 for Ryan; both in the 15-20 rank compared to other all-time greats. Maddux W/L% of 58% a little better than Ryan's 52.6%.
@@yossarianmnichols9641 Different types of pitchers; and on the whole about equal. They both are probably in the 11-20 range for all-time greatest pitchers.
The only two lefthanders with a great W/L% were Whitey Ford and Clayton Kershaw. The only two lefthanders with a lower era were Whitey Ford and Clayton Kershaw.
I don’t really want to take anything away from Greg Maddox‘s talent. Honestly, he was supremely talented. But he benefited Massively from a strike zone that was as wide as my tub is long.
Great list! The only other name I’d seriously consider, although he’s from an earlier era, is Bob Feller. Both Ted Williams and Stan Musial considered him the best they ever saw in their careers. Pretty good references. And his story is cool. 18 years with Cleveland. Starts first major league game at 17 y.o. after junior year of high school, fans 15, three weeks later fans 17 (MLB record at the time), then goes back to high school for his senior year. Some 5 years later (after a season of 27 wins) he becomes the first professional athlete in America to volunteer for the armed forces 2 days after Pearl Harbor. Served 4 years in U.S. Navy in both Atlantic and Pacific theaters, and saw significant combat (he refused the kind of “sports job” lots of pros got). Cost him 4 seasons and probably over 100 wins, but he never regretted it-was just glad he made it back in one piece.
All I know is I love Hockey and Baseball in that order but I as a Canadian was born with skates on which really hurt the mother coming out. We say sorry but never on the ice. Stiches are mandatory and teeth are optional.
I've studied Greg Maddux. I don't know the rules but he always put his fingers into his mouth off the mound and on the grass after each pitch. I assume the rule is can't go to the mouth on the mound. His pitches moved like a spitter.
You can go to your mouth while off the rubber, provided you wipe your fingers off on your pants or shirt before engaging the rubber to pitch. Same with blowing on your hand in cold weather.
Even 3 inches off the inside corner all the time, especially agains t the Indians in the 1995 World Series, they just gave the Braves that title, free gift.
Greg Maddux would dominate in any baseball era. Greatest control pitcher ever. And greatest fielding pitcher ever. No one will match his 18 Gold Gloves
Great pitcher, no doubt-but no one dominated like Koufax in the 60s. He was a very good fielder, but it wasn’t much of an issue either way because guys couldn’t touch him. They usually knew what he was gonna throw but it didn’t matter-I think it was Ernie Banks who said “you knew you were going to get embarrassed.” Mantle hit something like .145 career against him. Curve ball was legendary. He was amazing to watch, even if you weren’t a Dodgers fan.
@@michaelayers3998 only guy who really succeeded against Sandy was Hank Aaron whom I believe hit .382 against him-will check and correct if am wrong-checked Aaron hit.362 against Koufax (42/'116, 7 HR's and an 1.077 OPS)
@@jerrygoldfarb7739 Another great one! And in this case, the exception to the rule.
Bull shit > look at the strike zone they gave him ,
The toughest thing Maddux had to face was an ump who wouldn’t give him his preferred strike zone.
He seems to have had such a uniquely thoughtful approach to his craft.
Been watching baseball since the mid 70’s. He’s without question, the best I’ve ever seen.
The umps gave him a plate with 3 extra inches on the outside corner and 3 extra inches on the inside corner against the Indians In the 1995 World Series.
Randy Johnson
Tony Gwynn was a great hitter-and a good guy-but I go back 65 years watching baseball, and I still think Pete Rose was the absolute last guy you’d want to face if a game was on the line. He had a mean streak that drove him to get a hit even if the Reds were down 8 runs with two out in the ninth-and even more so if the pitcher had a no-hitter going. He’d get a hit just to ruin it. I hated him.
Maybe. I started in early sixties and see your point. Gwynn was .338 lifetime compared to Rose's .303. One interesting stat is Gwynn struck out once every 23.6 plate appearances, compared to once every 13.9 for Pete. But still, I see your point.
@@ron88303 No question Gwynn was a better “pure” hitter than Rose. All I’m saying is that Rose was deadly in the clutch-the bigger the moment, the more dangerous he was.
Gwynn's batting average was .338. His on base percentage was .388.
@@jeremiahthomas8140 My typo without proofreading. Thanks for the correction.
Rose would get a hit because he bet money on it
I was born and raised a Yankees fan, but I loved watching him pitch. I always thought of him as more of a technician than a thrower. I'd take him on my team anytime.
My pitcher growing up was Jim Palmer. However, Greg was simply awesome
Palmer had a better career in terms of both W/L% and ERA.
@@ron88303 Palmer also had wins in 3 different decades and never gave up a Grand Slam
Humility…such a rare quality these days
Mickey Morindini! I can still hear Harry Calas making the call.
If he had Angel Hernandez as his personal ump he woulda been Undefeated.
odd point.
Even a left-handed cross eyed half-tard can win a game.
Depends how much he paid him
That is absolutely funny as hell and right !!!
He threw too many strikes, or, as Angel Hernandez calls them, balls.
In order for him to succeed today, he would have to bring his strike zone from the 90s with him.
I think Maddux felt that way about Tony because of what he said earlier in the conversation - he wanted to keep guys in front of the outfielders and not walk anyone. Gwynn wasn't walking much, and he wasn't hitting many home runs. He was just the type of hitter who could get to Greg the most.
When I was much younger, like Greg, I would often say "you know" and did not realize it until a neighbor started replying "no, I don't know" every time I would say it. I thought it was rude at the time, but it worked. I stopped saying "you know" every few seconds. Greg Maddux is right there with Jim Palmer as the greatest pitchers I ever saw, but he could use a little help with his "you knows," you know what I mean?
It’s almost as bad as those people who use like in every other like word of a like a sentence
J-ROC was never corrected. It stuck with him for life.
1:35 dude had over 3,000 K’s and says he really didn’t have swing and miss stuff…
Maddux would have no problem with the NO HITTING MLB of today.
Greg was spot on about the "Quality Start". I feel that 6 innings with 3 earned runs is not a quality start. Like Greg said that's a 4.50 ERA. That is not quality in both our opinions.
I was a Padres fan for much of my life.
Tony Gwynn was and is my favorite baseball player of all time.
I don't know if Greg Maddux answers this question in this video...but I've long known that Gwynn had a ridiculous .450 lifetime batting average against Maddux (Maddux was aware of it) and a high batting average against other great pitchers as well.
Think of it: A .450 batting average against Greg Maddux.
Nothing but a singles hitter. For that kind of player, I’ll take pete rose
.429 vs Maddux
@frankmcgowan1886 you obviously don't know shite about baseball.
@@frankmcgowan1886You can have Pete Rose and his .303 career batting average. I'll take Tony Gwynn and his .338 career total.
Check out a book called More than just the Stats
He was a Great Pitcher! Nolan Ryan was the Best I've ever seen! I'm not old enough to have watched the older Pitchers of the past in real time.
Maddux had control where Ryan didnt have the control Greg had. Ryan also never won a Cy Young. Nolan is an all time great no question, but Maddux was better.
I think Ryan was just as good. 7 no hitters the last when he was 44. Ryan on the Braves would have won multiple Cy Youngs because they scored runs although I never cared for Bobby Cox and his awful managerial decisions in multiple world series. Greg Maddox was on the best ever and that was with an 87 mph fastball in the second half of his career. If everyone would have pitched like him they would all have made it to 44 and made a lot more money.
@@stocksgoupward5922 Maybe. Lifetime ERA of 3.16 compared to 3.19 for Ryan; both in the 15-20 rank compared to other all-time greats. Maddux W/L% of 58% a little better than Ryan's 52.6%.
@@yossarianmnichols9641 Different types of pitchers; and on the whole about equal. They both are probably in the 11-20 range for all-time greatest pitchers.
Tom Seaver is the best right handed pitcher I've ever seen. Nolan Ryan, Maddux and Clemons were great, but Seaver was that much better.
Greg Maddox the reason why we have a white box floating above home plate !
lol! Precisely. In order for him to succeed today, he would have to bring his own personal strike zone with him.
When they name an event about you - threw a Maddux - you know you’re great.
The Professor.......he learned how to pitch great.
Greatest left handed pitcher ever: SANDY KOUFAX
The only two lefthanders with a great W/L% were Whitey Ford and Clayton Kershaw. The only two lefthanders with a lower era were Whitey Ford and Clayton Kershaw.
He was very methodical pitcher.
"you know" said at least 25 times . lol
I don’t really want to take anything away from Greg Maddox‘s talent. Honestly, he was supremely talented. But he benefited Massively from a strike zone that was as wide as my tub is long.
Thee greatest pitcher of that decade. Mad dog Maddox. Go ATL
Maddux makes my top 10 list with Koufax, Gibson, Ryan, Drysdale, Seaver, R. Johnson, Clemens, Martinez, Kershaw.
Carlton, Pedro
Verlander over kershaw
Great list! The only other name I’d seriously consider, although he’s from an earlier era, is Bob Feller. Both Ted Williams and Stan Musial considered him the best they ever saw in their careers. Pretty good references. And his story is cool. 18 years with Cleveland. Starts first major league game at 17 y.o. after junior year of high school, fans 15, three weeks later fans 17 (MLB record at the time), then goes back to high school for his senior year. Some 5 years later (after a season of 27 wins) he becomes the first professional athlete in America to volunteer for the armed forces 2 days after Pearl Harbor. Served 4 years in U.S. Navy in both Atlantic and Pacific theaters, and saw significant combat (he refused the kind of “sports job” lots of pros got). Cost him 4 seasons and probably over 100 wins, but he never regretted it-was just glad he made it back in one piece.
@@michaelayers3998 think I'm adding Feller to my list. Cant decide who I'd replace, so I'll call it my top 11. Thanks
Marichal was much better than Drysdale
Biggest strike zone ever
He wouldn’t have any trouble with the pitch clock!
How about a legal strike zone !
Greg you know Maddox
easy to pitch with wider plate like he had
Yes he had a 25 inch plate to throw at
Only control pitcher in his league was Satchel Paige
All I know is I love Hockey and Baseball in that order but I as a Canadian was born with skates on which really hurt the mother coming out. We say sorry but never on the ice. Stiches are mandatory and teeth are optional.
Hard to say pitchers are being babied these days when theyre showing up to the majors already one surgery deep
Ya know???
For me, he's the greatest pitcher ever. I've never seen a pitcher mess the hitter's psyche like Maddux did. Absolute Legend !
I've studied Greg Maddux. I don't know the rules but he always put his fingers into his mouth off the mound and on the grass after each pitch. I assume the rule is can't go to the mouth on the mound. His pitches moved like a spitter.
You can go to your mouth while off the rubber, provided you wipe your fingers off on your pants or shirt before engaging the rubber to pitch. Same with blowing on your hand in cold weather.
If you ever watched a Maddox game on TV, you saw that umps gave him outside pitches all the time.
Even 3 inches off the inside corner all the time, especially agains t the Indians in the 1995 World Series, they just gave the Braves that title, free gift.
Jeff Bagwell
Baggie never let the strike zone beat him.
Scientist of the mound. Could tell you where he was going to throw it. Tony Gwynn was the toughest batter
The real answer is Tony Gwynn the guy has some of the craziest batting stats you willing ever see
Greg says ......you know.....WAY too much.
Micky Morandini. (Sp) wow. Hit Greg Maddux around. Hilarious 😂 . Smh...
Stop saying you know please did you go to school with whoopi goldberg
Sadly, I don't think he would even get a chance. "Fast enough" 40yrs ago, is not "fast enough" to even get signed today.
Jesus Christ what’s with the numerous you know you know god who taught this guy the English language
You know, I've never heard a person use "you know" more than Greg Maddux.
Gwynn
how dishonest. go back and look at film from the 90's. the plate was 3 ft wide.
Can this guy say anything other than you know?