"21 Guns" but you're on the roof of the Kabul embassy waiting for the last chopper
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- čas přidán 25. 09. 2021
- Do you know what's worth fighting for
When it's not worth dying for?
Thanks to Michael Shields for the idea.
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Weirdest thing is being in the military and seeing a conflict that had been going on for the vast majority of your life come to a pathetic close.
Dude yes! Growing up with this war and games like cod MW showing the “middle east people wearing towels bad” stuff and now seeing we lost is just crazy man
as someone in the military.. I feel like this fate was inevitable. We tried to bring stability in the region but it was just too much.
Spent 5 years in the Marines and you nailed it...
The likes are now the same as my ships number.....the curse continues.
@@colebugg8888 lost in trying to create a government
Fun fact: one of the choppers used in kabul was literally the same one used in saigon
Sad Fact: She was the only CH-46 to fly non-stop in the evacuation of Kabul, but she just like many others was dismantled and abandoned at the Kabul airport when the evacuation ended.
@@a-drewg1716 Wait the CH-46 Seaking from the famous roof photo where its hovering over?
@@blackopscw7913 yes
@@a-drewg1716 That's horrible...
@@blackopscw7913 Ya, but thats the way it works. The soldiers and machines do all the fighting on the ground but the top brass are ready to toss them away whenever
“History doesn’t repeat itself, but it sure does rhyme”
-Mark Twain
It's like poetry, it rhymes
Fall of Saigon any% speedrun.
@@leerman22 yeah, lol
Especially when co-opted fiat currency is involved. The owners of the Creature from Jekyll Island won over 100 years ago...
It's the sad truth
I never thought there would be “Afghan era music” but this was made during the war and it works well. Damn this is so sad
Have you listened to all the soviet afghan war era songs? There are tons and they are great.
@@danielkeener5140 yes they’re great, I meant to say that in the American perspective sense we want to call “Vietnam era” music based off of our music perspecitve
Kiss and Billy Idol?
If I'm correct alot of green day's earlier work was about the endless desert wars
@@baldrickthedungspreader3107 we’re talking military, not emo
CH-46 serial 154038 (register N38TU) was built in 1967 and later in 1975 she was pictured aboard the USS Hancock and flew day and night to evacuate American personnel during the fall of Saigon. Now on 2021-08-15 she once again showed up flying day and night to evacuate American personnel in Kabul Afghanistan. This would unfortunately be her last mission as on 2021-08-16 she would be dismantled and abandoned at the Kabul airport. Then you N38TU, you may have been just a machine, but every time our soldier needed you after the government abandoned them you were there.
Gone but never forgotten
rest in piece N38TU
1967-12-28 - 2021-08-16
Well, i dont think its destroyed now, maybe it now serves for the talibans
Someone needs to go and get her. She deserves better.
rest in piece to a machine that only knows bravery
I. Will go find a piece Where is it at Kabul Airport? I will put in a museum
Cry about it
Jormungundr: no I won't post a Kabul evacuation video
Karpi: fine, I'll do it myself.
I mean what do you expect from the world serpent?
This is the proper response. Every reply in a Jormungudr video is just a demand for him to do more work.
Life, uh, finds a way
@@jrmungandr Thanks Mr. Goldblum.
@@jrmungandr Making content in this format is much harder than it looks. Mad props.
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Funny thing is, that chopper was literally used in the evac in Saigon, not just the same type, the exact one
You're fucking kidding
Source? Send a link since its a bold statement without proof.
@@laserbeto910 A quick google search will net you results, and he's right.
Even a couple of decades later, it still gets the boys out.yeee haw
That sounded like the biggest pile of dogshit I've heard all week, but I googled this and this turned out to be, incredibly, true statement. I bet that chopper has seen some shit over the years.
It wont be like back then in Saigon, they said...
Twas 10x Worse
And it wasn't, South Vietnam held out for years, Afghanistan held out for weeks
saigon speed run
@@Wafflepudding yeah Afghanistan is just sad
And yet, as the US and the rest of the coalition forces evacuated, and the Taliban swept over Afghanistan like a plague, that was all I saw. All I could draw comparisons to. Another war the US and it's politicians would sooner forget rather than learn from.
_"My Father was one of the last to leave Saigon before the fall of this one, Now I'm doing the same thing in Kabul 46 years later."_
-An Unknown Soldier
Wait i think i have ssen you avatar before. Call of duty ghosts right? The federation?
@@thesaddestdude3575 Exactly Compañero
They never learn.
Yankee go home must hit diff for them huh
@Lex Bright Raven I disagree. WW2 was absolutely great for American pride, along with the rebuilding of Europe. It was the 60s Marxist "summer of love" sexual revolution that changed that and began the far left destruction of American society.
"Afghanistan will be the Vietnam War for the Soviets."
"Afghanistan will be the Second Vietnam War for the Americans."
Both statements are correct.
Afghanistan is the graveyard of empires.
cursed and haunted land.
@@Predictabletv ofc, it filled with dead soldiers from all across the world.
And here is China eyeing off the rare earth mineral potential of Afghanistan ... I wish'em luck in about twenty years time when they send forces in ...
@@Hebdomad7 they will probably try and be diplomatic about it
one day we're all gonna look back at this and say "We haven't learned"
We already have
We have its the Politicians and the Military Chain of Command that hasn't.
@@thedarkartist3635 - I'm sure people said the same about Saigon... at least this generation's vets will be treated much better by the people they wished they served. The government will always be the government however
We haven't learned at all in the last three times something played out like this. And most of the same people who were in a position of power for Saigon are still in power.
And the same helicopter will be flying from the roof of a different embassy in a different place.
Nah, I have faith that in the future thinking will prevail over the beating of chests and waving of flags.
It hurts how this has already been memory holed
And it was such a disgrace too. Too think how competent and surgical the US Military was back in 2001. And the degradation of the soldier we see today. Today's military is warm bodies with high tech weapons.
@@unkono Turns out it's much cheaper and more beneficial to the military industrial complex to send waves of dumb and desperate 18 year old kids with high tech toys than highly trained professionals with surgical tactics and an actual competent battle plan.
"That was 4 or 5 days ago. C'mon, man."
"memory holed already" lmfao what are you talking about bro. afghan retreat was the only thing on the news cycle for a whole month.
@@hyucky_bois3216 just like the riots last year. But in popular culture its already largly disapeared
My buddy was in Kandahar in 2016 where he was blown up during a house clearing, he was sent home and is now working in the Air Force's civilian police sector. He called me the other day just dumping his feelings about the whole evacuation. He kept asking if his friends died for nothing, if he was hurt for nothing, if he he had to kill for nothing. I didn't know what to tell him. How have we as a nation forgotten their sacrifices.
Fought for nothing, ended with nothing. Such is this war you Americans fought.
Not just Americans, my man
Perhaps it was for the best to cut losses and pull out. After nearly 20 years, if it's not fixed now, it won't be. Sending more guys in to die won't bring the dead back.
@@chrispy9229 yep, exactly that. It's terrible all these people died for Sadam and some others being killed and a still unstable Afghanistan. We knew early the government and military was useless and the mud hut villagers don't even want the clean water we give them, we should have said fuck it, yall can be savages yourselves a decade or more ago.
@@BlackHawkBallistic How about we stop funding terrorist groups and illegally invading countries
I really miss the Autobots and the good old days, before Sam WItwicky went to college.
you has been autobot'd
@@pratetheprate8741 Biden is a decepticon
@@kajmak64bit76 More like queentessa (if i said it wrong tell me)
@@pratetheprate8741 no idea what that is lol
@@kajmak64bit76 a Transformers villain
I can't imagine how demoralizing the whole thing must feel.
for these lads? probably the same level of jadedness that folks felt during the cold war, tired and demoralised. The sad part is, most of them will find it difficult to reintegrate into civilian life. Many will or perhaps already have ended up on the streets.
@@fkUTube449 preach it brother
@@fkUTube449 mm but a lot of them are probably still people who came from a terrible background who might've just offed themselves if the military recruitment didn't happen, must fucking suck for them
@@fkUTube449 Knowing the stakes and others even to this day (i am not American i am a foreigner) but i still would accept the intervention in Afghanistan and Iraq.
@@fkUTube449 Most people aren’t enlisting because they love their politicians with a passion, trust me. That doesn’t just go for the U.S., that’s just the mentality of soldiers everywhere. It’s a commitment, yes, but it’s also at the end of the day a job. And like most jobs, the guys at the top are complete douchebags…
US soldiers in Afghanistan : *withdraws* and contract is over
Private Military Companies : *HEY*
Blackwater is probably making bank right about now.
The treaty between Taliban and USA entailed the withdrawal of private military companies.
Call it unscrupulous, but if Afghanistan is to not fall into the Taliban, at least the PMCs should have stayed while everyone else left.
@@flawless_Cowboy technically blackwater doesn't exist anymore
@@heliveruscalion9124 oh yea, I forgot. It's "Academi" now, right?
It was THE EXACT SAME when Obama "pulled out" of Afghanistan. Just put in mercinaries that cost TONS MORE.
Damn. I was deployed in Iraq when this album came out. Good choice. Feels.
Thank you for your service. All I wish is that the government cared about you and your friends' sacrifice more. I'm so sorry for that.
Thank you for your service man.
Stolen valor
@@carfent8444 What
The government used you to steal oil :'(
Let it not be lost on anyone that this meme is called a 'wojak' and 'vojak' means 'soldier' in several Slavic languages.
Nice ingfo
Vojnik in yugoslav
@@zneaxbruh5554 ....there is no yugoslav language... Do you mean Serbo-Croatian, Albanian, Macedonian, or Slovene?
@@hamie7624In that yugoslavs can understand each other well so while not officialy a language in all senses except recognition
@@zneaxbruh5554 Coincedentially, I happen to be of mixed Yugoslav heritage, heh.
This is perfect song for ending of Afghanistan true event movies
I can physically feel how true this is
Their celebratory gunfire into the sky just makes it more sad for the soldier knowing all the stuff him and his friends went through just for that to happen
What makes you think that is celebratry gunfire? They were moving in to fight the Afghan army.
Link Knight "fight" you're funny. the Afghan army disbanded and the Taliban took Kabul with virtually no bloodshed. Kabul police officers and army members threw their uniforms and wore plain traditional cloths to blend back into society. A puppet government can function with the master pulling the strings. The Afghan president ran of to Tajikistan with public funds.
@@ahmedrashid3
Well, there was _some_ fighting as they took Kabul, several police stations and a few special forces regiments refused to surrender and had to be cleared out, the Taliban only declared the city entirely secured after 48 hours.
@@OffGridInvestor lol what, most of the afghan army immediately fled or dropped their weapons, some small pockets resisted but practically all of the army tried to flee
@@OffGridInvestor afghan army? what afghan army?
this would sound better with more gun noise constantly
gun noise is calming right? like, idk how to explain this, but, it feels good to hear it... When i was a kid, my dad played Call of duty black ops about at 22:00/23:00 thats when he would go for his quick matches, and i was going to sleep, id say good night dad, get some killz and ask him to leave the volume high so i could hear the shooting and stuff, helped me fall asleep faster just saying.
@@thomaskunz3089 I think its because you know something is happening around you, sitting on a trench for 5 days of pure silent must be much worse than an actual combat zone, knowing whats happening is better than anxiously waiting for something to happen
true
@@thomaskunz3089 Same Everytime My Dad Watches a Movie It Helps Me Fall Asleep for some reason
@@thelegalmexican9860 thats very true, waiting is shit, you just want to get it over with.
Next one should be: "i dont want to set the world on fire" but your stranded in the California bush fire
"Short Change Hero" but you're there last engine team leaving Paradise
Oh yeah remember that chinook extraction during the fire? That exact moment
stop it im in california
@@trollamamaa6939 No
@@mormonyakuza3412 I still remember the orange glow of the smoke in the air when I was in High school. junior year was never the same...
imagine sitting there, smoking a ciggarete, knowing that every single one of those gunshots is someone who helped you, and you can't do anything about them now
Those are celebratory gunshot, there are no fighting in Kabul. You should know that.
@@TheZ691 Yeah, celebratory gunshots directed at anyone who helped the US.
@MLG Joe I know that plenty of civvies that cooperated with US have been executed.
There were terrible mass executions in the streets aswell, shit was really fucked up
Sad part is most of the ppl who helped the US did it out of fear of what the US would do to them and their families if they refused
@Lt. JoeAnimatez 3 of the terps I worked with has been executed but my homie noori got out so that’s sick
Literally a 21st century Vietnam, what a waste of life
Hell the helicopter there is CH-46 serial 154038 which also took part in the evacuation of Saigon in 1975. She was the only CH-46 who flew nonstop during the evacuation of Kabul yet even she was dismantled and abandoned at the Kabul airport.
@@a-drewg1716 Holy crap, that makes it even more Vietnam, so it is confirmed, Afghan was just Vietnam but with sand and less US deaths, still in the hundreds tho, but waaaay more less than Vietnam
@@mrasbestos9127 you know history doesn't repeat itself but it sure as hell rhymes.
@@a-drewg1716 Haha yeah...
It shows that the only way to beat the Taliban is in their own game. Proving their ideology wrong. showing them where it fails. showing them how much suffering it causes. the major powers have caused a lot of pain to south asia and the middle east in general. The ones who are going to end the cycle are not the military. It is going to be the people who want to do something about it.
Cool jormungundr style content you've really captured the essence of his style of vidoe
Can I get a link to that guy, I'm having trouble finding him.
@@anarchyandempires5452 czcams.com/users/Necrotwilly
Nigga it’s 2 jpegs and maybe like 5 audio files
@@percsie3072 ikr lol, but the vids not that bad.
I could be wrong, but before Jorm started doing these in a combat/military focus, there were others doing it with sea shanties. I honestly would not be surprised to see the format continue to be relevant for years to come.
Man. I was a civilian contractor, air traffic controller, in Kabul from March - Aug 2021. We were on the airfield when shit hit the fan. We were, what felt like stranded there, working all the air operations, watching all the helicopters going to and from the US embassy wondering where the hell our evac was. Long story short, we eventually booked it across the runway, got to HKIA, and made it in the back of a c17 many hours later. Unforgettable experience.
What did you do in Afghanistan btw? Like did you help civillians and their from humanitarian aid? Asking from an Afghan
@@eatinsomtin9984I don’t mean to be rude, but he said he was an air traffic controller. He probably worked at the airport in the tower.
@@owenberg3366 Yeah my bad
I haven't wanted to admit that the evacuation of Kabul is in many ways an indicator that we have lost the so called "War On Terror" but for reasons I cant quite articulate this movie convinced me that yes, we lost.
EDIT: Careful anyone who's thinking of going into these comments. They're already starting to get weird.
maybe it wasn't really "War on terror" evil never wins truth prevails
@@arhumzia6360 I would say that we were fighting terror, I mean the enemy is hanging people from helicopters and all.
@@SOAVGaming Bruh well keep listing to westerns media in my eyes west is the biggest terrorist
@@arhumzia6360 "Evil never wins" and "truth prevails"
This and other lies you can tell yourself.
The western nations are terrorists? Yes, but so are the eastern nations.
Name a country or peoples that didn't commit crimes against humanity,
Its all documented in the criminal record we call "Human History".
We are at war with an idea, and, like the man says, ideas are bullet proof.
What he never said, though, is that some of the ideas are monstrous.
This 2000s chapter is over, 20 years later
RIP Sgt Nicole Gee… she went to the school house a couple months before I did and never thought that one of us in our MOS would’ve been on the wall of fallen Marines. I wish her family the best and I wish I could amount to her dedication to duty
Poor kids, most of them weren’t born or just toddlers when the war started. Being a bit older I always hated how we sent the youngest over there to do meaningless patrols with no gain but the chance of getting killed. I was in a different military at that age and wasn’t deployed to the Middle East, but my girlfriend was a US MP and got permanent injuries from the tour she did at 21 years of age.
She was a good Marine and a good person. She's missed and remembered every day.
When it's time to live and let die
And you can't get another try...
I cant even begin to imagine the feeling those soldiers and marines were feeling knowing that they were the abandon ship crew to just leave a decade long war with thousands of their dead brothers rolling their graves
They probably terrorised the locals they get what they deserve
@@theblackgods4699
Ah yes
The fucking Twitter user who ruins the fun of literally everything
You must be as brainwashed as those soldiers were if you think that every single one of them terrorised locals.
@@theblackgods4699 who said that was an issue?
@@dissapointingopinions4877 I'm sure it wasn't a widespread issue but terrorising locals isn't good my man
2 decades even
Also wonder what that last US trooper must have felt knowing he was the last person to step in Afghanistan. Was it relief he made it out or sadness that a mission wasn't accomplished or that he hadn't done as enough?
Was there ever a mission in the first place?
@@4on4nam yes
@@4on4nam in the beginning, but it slowly changed over time, eventually it was realized that there was no way to win or fix the situation and we would be in there for another 20 years at least
Regret, sadness and relief all rolled into one I’d guess
well we killed bin laden so thats a win
As a vet to this war, this song hits different
Thank you for your service man, I really mean that
@@colebugg8888 he means a Taliban vet
@@user-fg8ux8zo6w Did he stutter?
@@user-fg8ux8zo6w I doubt that Taliban vets think that their struggle is meaningless.
@@user-fg8ux8zo6w I'm not a Taliban soldier I'm an American vet
Shepherd: Do you have the DSM?
Ghost: We got it, sir!
Shepherd: Good. That's one less loose end.
And that was how the war ended...
As fucked up as the situation is I get nostalgia from this. I was born in the Late 90s so I pretty much grew up with the War on Terror, 9/11 and the ongoing wars shaped the culture that surrounded me. I grew up with overly patriotic action movies, TV shows, and video games on one hand and media acting like social commentary criticizing the situation like South Park and Green Day on the other hand. Pro and Anti war narratives were everywhere. 4th of July was both a kickass celebration of patriotism and a hope for a more peaceful future at the same time. And even though I never served myself I thought the military was the coolest shit ever, but at the same time I understood the waste of our foreign endeavors as time went on. I both highly respected our troops and grew skeptical of the war simultaneously (looking back, I think I could justify it during the first few years but we should have packed it up when we still were on good ground instead of prolonging it). The 2000s were a time when people were more open about debate, and although the war and the response to 9/11 were insanely controversial subjects people could still talk to each other about them without too much hostility, and we were united as a country under the premise we were all Americans. Questioning the government was not only "in" at the time it was considered the most American thing to do.
Since the late 2010s we've only seen our country grow even more divided, the middle eastern endeavors went absolutely south, our country's reputation tanked on a global scale, our government got even more and more authoritarian and people are too comfortable to do anything about it, people in this country refuse to see eye to eye anymore, we have riots in the streets, insane depression rates, people doing horrible shit arguing over which perverted old man to elect into presidential office. There is no more nuance, you are either an insane woketard or an alt right degenerate. The entire country is demoralized. Things just suck.
And while I welcome the end to this long long conflict, it truly does feel like the final dying gasps of a bygone era.
There are bright times to come, man. If nothing else, hopefully a new enemy (authoritarian CCP) or space exploration may be unifying factors that can bring us together. Hope for a brighter future!
Awesome post btw.
Once we set foot and toppled the Taliban, we should've either colonized Afghanistan and made them a province, or left.
Instead we became INGSOC.
@@Lyerbait13 I fear America is too far divided to unite once more, my friend.
@@phantomaviator1318 As much as I want to agree, I still believe we can get past all the bullshit.
@@phantomaviator1318 “Literally 1984.”
I can't believe I was born in time to see the beginning and the absolute end of this.
I always wondered what it would be like to live during a war, it turns out one has been raging on the other side of the world my entire life
The day after I was born, the first covert helicopters were flown into Panjshir Valley. I was raised on the war, all I ever wanted was to be a Marine, I got in just in time to hear that 13 of my new brothers have died due to criminal negligence and nothing will come of it.
you didnt know there was a war going on in afghan?
It’s scary how similar this photo is to the Saigon one
If only citizens and more soldiers would actually hold generals and Presidents accountable for there actions if only people cared mabey there wouldn't be another Vietnam or another Afghanistan
What does that mean?
@@user-zj1uf8hs6t I think that is a regular anti-war message, so, if the president/generals suffer the same that the common people, never will appear other Afganistan/Vietnam/ Hell in the earth. *I THINK*
@@mirkomateorojas2496 I’m asking because I hear this thrown around, but until your are ready to put your money where your mouth is; it really is a disgrace to those who sacrificed.
@@user-zj1uf8hs6t All US Soldiers fall under UCMJ which is basically laws that the soldiers have to abide by its the military justice system and if only generals at the top would be punishable by it like they are supposed to they would have to think twice about there actions and Gen Milley would be punished for treason for things he has done and the president should be held more accountable by the people and its not just Joe biden but it is several presidential administration's and presidents that are at fault
@@user-zj1uf8hs6t nothing says sacrifice like committing brutal acts of violence and actual war crimes against the innocent civilians of a nation you've been invading for 20 years
I did a tour in Helmand in 2013. Some of the villages had schools, the children were learning how to read and write (in a region with over 80% illiteracy). Women could walk in the streets without being escorted by a man. More people than ever before had electricity, the farmers were growing wheat rather than poppies (I don't know where the opium myths come from, NATO paid the farmers handsomely to stop growing poppies, while Taliban were the ones threatening the farmers to keep supplying them with opium). It seemed like there was actually hope for something better for the young generations.
Then the US politicians made a filthy deal with Taliban and the afghan government to betray the entire country, just so that the american politicians could say "it's over". The afghan president, who had clan ties with the taliban leaders, of course had no hesitation to agree to this. 20 years of hard work and sacrifices, flushed down the toilet due to incompetent and dishonest politicians. Afghanistan was not a military defeat, but a political one.
What angers me the most is the way the media world wide lied about what happened. They blamed the afghan army, who had been doing practically all of the fighting since 2014, who had previously had no problem fighting the insurgents. The afghan military was betrayed from the top, they were told to unconditionally surrender, that they would not be resupplied if they did continue to fight, and then all communication stopped. Despite this, the afghan army managed to reclaim Lashkar Gah, they managed to get back control of most of the Farah province. But without reinforcements and supplies, they couldn't hold it. They were not the cowards that Joe Biden claimed they were. They did not want to surrender. They did their best in a hopeless situation created by lying politicians. What ever happened to "we do not negotiate with terrorists"?
Wow
I hate how everyone blames the ANA those men died fighting for their homes and families only to be betrayed, sold out and lost everything because of some bureaucrats in the pentagon and the afghan military. You really can't blame some of them for defecting since atleast them and their families could live, while the other fate was to fight till they ran out of bullets like many did
America is divided at this point that nobody wants to unify under a common country. Nowadays politicians pander to clueless people and give the people what they think they want in hopes of keeping their cushy seat in office.
@@antoinesaliba6294 just makes me sad about what happened
What you said about Helmand was also said by a Soviet veteran who fought in Afghanistan during the 80’s. Even if Biden wasn’t weak and the exit was successful, Afghanistan would’ve eventually gone back to being a shithole unfortunately….
Perfect timing, was talking to a bud I served a few weeks back who thought he was going to die to this song which happened to be playing as their convoy got struck by IED's and small arms fire.
hits way to close to home for me man. i was in Hkia evacuating those people.
Damn man
Thank you for your service.
Me too, 3/319.
Thanks John, Scotland will always be a second home too you and our Kin for your service.
Ro Mhath Slàintè 🇺🇸🤝🏻🏴
@@an-dagda6276 thank you so much
can we please go back to the ancient days where when our leaders made such a big fuck up, they were sentenced to death for their failure? we lost thousands of lives in this pointless war, and someone needs to be held accountable. Whats worse is years from now, we'll make this same exact mistake in another pointless war.
if it wa slike that then every us president would have been sentenced to death lmao
>pointless
>war
Choose one.
You know, if you try to use logic to understand this you will most likely not get it. On the other hand, if you think about the money, greedy, ego and power you will not only understand wars, but also see the myriad of disgusting ill things that happen in this world while we watch the screens.
Yes let’s go back to the times leaders could imprison, kill, and torture other people for their mistakes. Unfortunately, the modern world is largely the best it’s been. Doesn’t mean it can’t get better though.
The war wasn't pointless, big corporations benefited from it
Always love more Jormungundr style content. Can't have enough of these. This is brilliant! Good work man!
It’s wild reading the comments of all those who served over there and reading that this is their Vietnam…I’m so sorry to all our veterans and active duty who have lost friends over there, I hope you will one day be recognized for your efforts and bravery, and may your fallen brothers and sisters be honored.
Man...this kicks as hell...2 of my comrades died there
Excuse me?! You aren't in service huh?
@@deathcommando6121
쓰레기 무시, 당신의 서비스에 감사드립니다, 신의 축복
Translation
Ignore the trash, thank you for your service, God bless you
@HotTakes you would never talk this bullshit
@@fkUTube449 bruh what the fuck
@@deathcommando6121 You fought for the benefit of Israel. Don't act like you have any say.
The song hits different now.
Kabul was a shit show, I somehow still miss it deep down and wish it was me that was taken by the IED. Thanks for this edit man. A full vibe. Never forget the 13.
It's always hard to leave a piece of your life behind, even if it wasn't a pleasant one. I hope you find a new purpose, brother.
@@pgtv14 unfathomably based
forget the 200 civilians tho
@@pgtv14 hoping I can. Very scared of getting out and not having one.
Jesus dude. Hope you're doing better.
How the chorus hits at the same time as the firefight starts is perfect, sent chills down my spine. Nice work
This and the Saigon evacuation picture is eerily similar.
I was a kid when the planes hit the towers and we invaded a-stan,8 years later I deployed there and a decade plus on top of that we have our Saigon moment.
I was fukin pissed off and drunk for a few weeks when that happened,felt like everything we did was for naught and humiliating but it also was a relief in a way,it was such a huge presence in my life sometimes front and center but always in the background.
With a tendency to eat good people.
You're witnessing the fall of the Roman empire of our times. Enjoy the ride, it's going only downhill from here.
@@amadeusagripino6862 Yeah,you are not alone in having this feeling brother.
They used the same heli for both. Not the same model only. The same serial number.
Back in 09 my friend talked me into enlisting. Pres BHO promised me a shovel ready job filling sandbags. When I got to Afghanistan the first thing I was told was that we weregoing to lose. 10 years after I got back I'm watching Kabul fall and Hadjis clinging to the wheel well of C17. August and September were tough for me.
...Hajis? In Afghanistan? Civilians? Did the lingo get totally mixed up since my day? I could have sworn Hajis is what we called the hostiles in Iraq, I thought Talis is what they used in the Afghan Theatre.
But yeah, sorry to hear that man, it’s been rough for some people I know too, especially my GF, who was WIA.
@@luxborealis yeah, there was some blurring of terms. I only say Afghanistan and and Kuwait, like that counts , but most of my seniors had seen both fronts multiple times. We had other terms for the Afghans.
You can thank your pentagon for making a dumbass deal with taliban and leaving. Basically pentagon did not want to win the war!! All they had to do is pull out 3000 soldiers and put sanctions on Pakistan for harboring taliban leaders. The whole movement of taliban were funded and supported by Pakistan. That would have ended the war . But pentagon wanted to spend 2 trillion dollars and give it to the defense companies. Go figure, The afghan army at the end was told to surrender and the taliban were in talks with American ambassador and asking should we enter Kabul?? And the Americans gave a green light to take over Afghanistan. Americans also froze all the countries reserves cash and told the afghan president to fight lol now that’s an ally you can say “go fuck your self “ to … Americans politicians are shameless and want to paint a picture that they did fail because afghan army surrendered. They don’t want to tell their soldiers that they made a deal to hand over the country to the taliban. Now they are stuck and can’t dare to go near taliban because of hurting their soldiers feelings.
File this under "most depressing things I've ever bobbed my head to."
If you want something even more depressing that helicopter there is CH-46 serial 154038. She was present and assisted during the evacuation of Saigon in 1975 and once again in Kabul though unfortunately this would be her final mission as she was dismantled and abandoned there at the Kabul airport.
21 Guns = 21 Years
I often find my mind still wandering the sands of Helmand province these days.
I was there 2019-2020 I still think about a lot what a waste
Well, looks like we finally found that Afghanistan War soundtrack. :(
“So this is what the dream feels like? This is the victory we longed for?” - Niko Bellic
PERFECT
1:05 dude, the explosions being timed with the explosion was fucking beautiful…
This is how troops felt when they evacuated from Vietnam at the end.
fun to think that this went on for 20 years. felt so normal.
Absolutely wild that this war started when I was a little kid. I barely remember watching the twin towers burn on every TV channel that morning. And to think that this war went on long enough for me to grow up, and get to the age where I could’ve enlisted and gotten shipped off to fight in the same war.
It's oddly nostalgic, in a way. Growing up listening to Greenday and literally watching the GWOT unfold from day one, and here we are now.
The scariest part was this was playing on the radio. Tho someone changed the station to listen to guns and roses. Immediately after that I went down to eat at the chow hall to eat some cold pancakes and cold diced potatoes. 1 week later I was back in my room playing tf2
Jesus man, art reflects life heh ?
Man, I know some people who have got out of Afghanistan, they all think the president is a coward, and I agree, the could’ve held Kabul, they could’ve won, just the president run so the Afghan army collapsed under pressure, to everyone in Afghanistan, even tho I am Atheist, I pray for you
@@poley099
Of course they could have won, they had like 25 divisions to the Taliban’s maybe 5-6. Even if a third of those soldiers only existed in some corrupt clerk’s ledger so the commander could pocket the difference, they still vastly outnumbered the enemy and had equal or better gear. Training was a bit... er... so and so, but they still had some excellent units that could have done more complicated maneuvers while the conscripts held the line.
Something was definitely up with ANA leadership even before the President fled, I suspect the Taliban had bribed many of the generals, possibly with the help of Pakistani intelligence. We saw plenty of stories of the professional units suddenly finding themselves surrounded and alone in empty bases as the brass had simply sent the regulars home and then disappeared in the night. And let’s not even mention the very... curious decision to remove almost all the best units from the Kabul area and instead sending them north towards the Tajik border and Balkh.
@@luxborealis I know, as someone who watches these things on the international stage it wasn’t americas fault, trusting the government was americas fault, they’re corrupt and will do what’s best for them not they’re citizens like a leader should.
If you forget, history is doomed to repeat itself
ESPECIALLY when it comes to proxy wars for reasons other than your own nation's benefit.
It's kind of weird to think of this stage in the life cycle of an empire. We had our century of dominance and now it's time to let someone else take over. I remember when my dad told me that the War in Afghanistan had always been going and I didn't bother to think otherwise. By the time I was in 4th grade, I thought that the war was over simply because I didn't think that a war could last that long. Now, here I am, practically at the end of my childhood, and the war that has defined our culture since before I was born has come to a messy, brutal end. It scares me that, after being at war for longer than I've been alive, the only thing we've really accomplished is leaving the Taliban with an even bigger pile of guns than they had before.
@Jack Snyder Maybe, but maybe it’s too late. Maybe it’s just time to start getting ready for the end.
Thanks, Brandon.
Sometimes I forget that the soldiers pulled out of Kabul were about my age. They grew up with the same music as me. They probably did a lot of the same things for fun. Only difference is the tense.
Idea: When you're on Dunkirk waiting for the last boat to arrive
Oh fuck yes, any song recommendation?
@@Overdrawn_I need to find one
Maybe something related to the Navy? Heart Of Oak?
@@Overdrawn_ Rule Britannia?
@@janstastny9294 too upbeat
"man, deja-vu"
"Where the hell would you of seen this before"
How could such a disastrous conflict end so disastrously?
Thank Trumpler and his sweetheart to the Taliban spread bussy deal.
@@Mortablunt rent free
These videos make me feel like I’ve found a whole new art form, I love it.
Damn this is hard to listen too.this song came out when I was fighting in Iraq,lost my cousin there,years ago lost my best friend in Afg when we were there,All for nothing...
The guy who suggested this song really nailed it.
War... War never changes.
Not only are you underrated, but your type of music and wojak form is just amazing, good job bro!
Iraq and Afghanistan is literally our generations Vietnam and like back then we lost more good people here after their time in than we ever did over there. All of it for what....
Guys, you missed the punch line: The terror alert levels have returned to pre 9/11 levels (risen).
For the soldiers thinking their efforts were a waste, the fact that terror levels were lower while you were there is proof that you did the best you could. Nobody should ask anything more than that of you.
🤔 Didn’t we introduce the terror alert levels in 2002?
They didn't even do that. That's the worst part. This whole fucking war was a money laundering scheme by the US government to turn tax dollars into profits for the MIC. To the soldiers who fought and were scarred by this freakshow of a conflict, may god help you and may god curse those that deceived you. Amen.
@@hududiyya thank brother. It makes it easier to know y'all see the fuck ups we went through
Does the 250,000 civilian death in Iraq and Afghanistan factor into this terror alert?
The claims of terror levels weren't the reason to go to war, they were the justification. We gained literally nothing by fighting over there. Not even the oil, not even conquest; it was a massive wasted effort made explicitly just to benefit our "Greatest Ally" in the middle east. I'd rather the entire region just be glassed, and be done with it all. There is not one single nation in the region that is of any value, or worth fighting for.
We didn’t leave with a bang or with victory. We went with a miserable whimper. The 20 years of wasted time and damn near million souls lost all to come to that sad end to a war that plagued my entire life. I wasn't even born before the towers fell, but I felt the impact and debris that it left in our country at the time of impact to the war starting and ending. This war has been a part of my life, and now that it is over, I feel strange to be finally at peace.
This war had been raging prior to my birth, and it’s so weird to think that we left like “that.”
It feels wrong, like I’m happy we left, but the way we left feels so off. My heart goes out to the veterans. I hope the future treats you well.
helicopter: leaves without you
I love the sync of the chorus and the explosions and gunshots starting.
I was the last US service member to leave Ghazni province in Afghanistan after having 2 friends pass while treating them and another lost his ability to walk normal we left and 12 days later the ANA threw in the towel in territory me and my friends fought and died for. Now all their kids have is a flag and I have nightmares and anger issues
Respect from Taiwan 🫡
That choppers rotor sounds at the end, I was like "oh thank god.."
I'm at the army now, so that gives me more chills I guess.
"That's Vietnam music man, can't we get our own f*cking music?"
I showed this to my dad and it hits him differently now....
Vietnam: US soldiers when they hear bushes talking
Afghanistan: US soldiers when they hear mountains screaming
this is just depressing, there are people who spent almost their entire life in this war, they've seen hell and now all of them back for their homes traumatized and with empty hands because this war didn't get nothing to them
Why is it hell?
@@DieEineMieze war isn't a beautiful thing, friends and innocents die in your front, the live condition in a war is horrible, waking up hearing shoots is terrifying, see peoples screaming and moaning of pain because they got injured and probably dies after that
war IS hell
I was a toddler when the war started, I was raised on the idea that we were going to make Afghanistan into a free and democratic nation, we were told about how girls were able to go to school, Malala especially was a very important anti taliban symbol. Understand I'm not sad that the U.S. lost, to be angry solely because of that is vain. I'm upset because the Afghans deserve better and we abandon them to their fate.
Thanks ❤️ bro 🙏 this means lot too me as an afghan eventhough I now live in pakistan I will forever remember afghanistan
Oh man, I never thought about the fact we were telling you kids we were actually winning. Yeah, no, we have been on slow retreat there since basically 2006 when the Taliban came back and started infiltrating the rural areas. By the time I was in the military in 2013 it was basically acknowledged the Taliban would take over large parts of the country as troops began withdrawing. We hadn’t expected the sudden collapse before we were done pulling everyone out though. On paper the ANA was strong and well equipped, easily able to keep on fighting for up to five years after we left. But, turns out most of them just went home when we stopped paying them. The ones who did want to fight were surrounded and overwhelmed by the Talis. Must be an even bigger shock for all the people who didn’t know how badly the war was actually going.
@@luxborealis thanks for sharing the truth bro
I appreciate it
I remember her. She was the one that was shot in the face for refusing to leave a school bus right?
And we gave up on her and her people. Just like that.
@@isyraf9989 ah. Still, we let her down
As someone who's lived their entire life with this war in the background, seeing it end so abruptly and pathetically was powerful in a way I can't quite describe. Everyone I know was raised on the idea that the US was helping Afghanistan become a democratic, egalitarian society--watching the planes leave Kabul was a wakeup call that, even over 40 years since Vietnam, we're still pushing the same false narratives to justify dead-end wars for the profit of the military industrial complex. I don't know whether to be relieved that this war is over and happy my country isn't at war for the first time in my life, or saddened that the dreams sold to my generation and the Afghani people ended up being nothing but empty promises. It's a really hollow feeling either way.
"It hit different ain't it?" -old vet in the bar
Gives it that bitter sweet ending in movies vibe where the main character finally goes home but at what cost
For me two songs fit this scenario: Green Day’s 21 guns and Thirty Seconds To Mars’ This is war.
Tool's "Right in Two" and A Perfect Circle's "Pet"
This is genius and a perfect tribute to 2021.
Well, the important thing was that the military contractors got rich, and although little was put into rebuilding Afghanistan, nation-building was very successful in northern Virginia and central Maryland. A lot of corporate executives and major shareholders around the beltway were able to remodel their second homes thanks to the war, and I think that's the real victory.
Underrated comment
Watch this particular event get memory hold in 2024
Honestly I believe in the past two and a half years now probably going to be going into three America is going to elect the same senile old bastard and he's going to probably die in office and we're going to have someone that Kamala Harris which is going to be worse 10 times as worse there's a thing about second terms the first term is always going to be better the second term is always going to be worse
"did my friends had to die for nothing?"
"did I have to be hurt for nothing?"
"did I have to kill for nothing?"
*Y E S*
imagine if the next one will be 热爱105°C的你 but you're on the roof of the Taipei embassy waiting for the last chopper
The whole bags under eyes and smoking a cig couldn’t be more accurate. The most I was ever tired was while on active duty. I can think of 3, yes THREE days where I got some good sleep outah the years I served.
My buddies are out and still dropping like flies. Fuck war.
"Auferstanden aus Ruinen" but you see the police open the border
Rip East Germany
I was born in 2005 so we were at war most of my life. Ive never really stopped to think about how the people that fought were affected. I hope everyone that was part of the conflict to have a safe life.God bless y’all.
We did it Joe
Joe Biden did the smartest thing a president has ever done in the past 2 decades.
@@halebopp4747 getting kicked out Afghanistan was the biggest mistake in the past 20 years
@@ThomasSimpsonOfficial Why? Not enough brown people and gullible American teenagers killed for you?
Joe's speech after the ISIS-K attack that killed those Marines literally reminded me of the scene in 'Rushmore' when Max Fischer is laying on his back after getting his ass kicked and he says to his friends, "We got 'em....we got 'em."
They then shake their heads and walk away with expressions saying 'no you didn't.'
@@georgesagan That scene you mention describes America perfectly rather than Joe. Joe had the balls to admit that the U.S. can’t win against a bunch of tribal goat herders, rather than having a delusion that he won. It seems conservatives and patriots are the ones coping and saying that they won the fight
all along Afghanistan was grasping on a hope, a tomorrow that will never come...
"if ever I see my nation prosper only in my dreams then ill keep on dreaming til I die"
-A translated qoute from the movie "Heneral Luna"