All the Blammo: HK51 at the Range
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Just how concussive is the HK51? And how hard is it to control? Let's find out!
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“Man, that’s got to be hard on the ears.”
‘SURE, WE CAN GO GET SOME BEERS!”
PARDON??!!!!
WHAT!?
I seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee what you did there.
"iam sorry sir but army insurance don't include hearing damage from deployment duty"
"What...!?.i don't tolking about fish!."
@@Sakkura1 We definitely didn't hear what he did
If you ask any SAS veteran who used this how it was, all they answer is "HUH?"
"TYPE LOUDER, I CAN'T HEAR YOU!"
I mean, if this was suppressed with subsonic ammo it might be something special.
@@alexb7641 a subsonic 7.62 NATO would be barely better than a suppressed anything else. Maybe in the 80's it would have been a workable idea, today we have .300 AAC for this.
@@den2k885 idk about barely better, it's heavier than a 9mm and would create a nasty wound channel. You wouldn't survive it
@Stayoutlatetatebate to make it subsonic you need to beef the mass up quite a bit so it would be much heavier than a 147 grains 9mm subsonic, I think it would go in the 350-400 grains ballpark.
"I believe the phrase is 'covering fire!'"
No, Ian. The CORRECT phrase is "Fookin' 'Ave it!!!!" 😂
A psychiatrist: Don't worry, the .308 MP5 doesn't exist, it can't hurt you.
HK51:
HK R&D Department: Challenge accepted.
If you ever wanted a sawed off G3... HK has you covered 🤣🤣
The 308 mp5 sounds like something out of call of duty, but here we are
@@FlyboyHelosim i hope that there is no .50 BMG. The belt fed is, indeed, cursed, but the .50 is the one that truly terrifies me
@@5tyxxxx there's a belt fed .50 BMG G3 variant, the HK25. absolute insanity lmao
No longer the "hose of angry bees" of the American 180, now we have the "cave of enraged bears" of the HK51
Murder hornets. Simply, murder hornets.
Cave of angry bears is the black clad sadists who were using them.in the 90s
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Good one 🫡
i still call it a 'Dom-MachineGun'
"Automatic flashbang dispenser"
SAS: yeah it shoots bullets, but that's mostly a side effect.
Only point the flashbang dispenser at people confirmed to be hostile.
@@levergatRapha Punching holes through stuff, like light skinned vehicles, older walls, making vehicle engines assume the OFF position, that kinda thing
@@badboybubby7794 surprisingly. Ian and Karl already have videos of the hk51 vs 7.62x39 and the AK only lost around 30 ft lbs of energy compared to the .308. they would most likely perform about the same depending on projectile construction
Ian yesterday: "I recommend double ear protection"
Ian today: "Nevermind"
Might be active earbuds but I don't know anything about that sort of thing and I doubt they're as good as full double pro
"do as i say, not as i do"
In fairness to Ian these were used operationally by plain clothes operators, no earpro worn so he's accurate.
@@ninebangtrojan4669 that's a great point
@@BallstinkBaron ask my GF I occasionally make them
This is exactly what every single 80s / 90s action movie gun sounded like. Even hand guns. 🤣
"the only reason you're still watching is to *gleefully* watch me concuss myself with a mag dump from an hk51"
Shit. He's onto us!
The way he lurches forward after the mag dump is pretty epic
The lord is omniscient 😂
JC:cross as GJ:HK51 full auto.
>Shit. He's onto us!
Gun Jesus is watching us while we watch him on youtube
@@inund8 "Thanks for watching, guys!" (falls forwards with a thud)
"Sir, how did you kill that roomful of people with one burst?"
"I didn't, they're just unconscious"
all those episodes of Archer
Liquidating bodies with muzzle flash alone. It's too bad they didn't do a mag dump at night, bet that would look crazy
@@qoph1988 liquidating means to sell your inventory of goods genius
@@gabberpietor not when you mean like liquifying like they do
@@gabberpietor Punctuation exists, genius.
00:00 - 00:05
Artist's rendition of Christ, driving out the merchants from the temple.
(Oil on canvas, 1895)
"And Jesus entered the temple. And he said HYAAARGH. And his hair doth flow."
"The one saving grace of a magdump with an HK51 is: it's only 20 rounds."
Quick, somebody needs to buy and convert it to belt feed before sending it to Ian!
Or at least a C-mag. :D
They got a simulare beltfed...HK53??
Or one of those
_million-round-magazines_
they use on television and in movies.
😊😊😊
May be a dumb thought but wouldn't a hk 21 drum fit this? Or at the very least the larger g3 mags
they do exist czcams.com/video/dGPeSUDbUJ4/video.html
The HK51. When you absolutely, positively have to drive out every merchant from the temple.
Blast alone would knock over the tables.
The kaichengasser
Reference?
@@fosty. Jesus in the Bible.
@@fosty. Repent zoomer.
"Well if they aren't dead, blind or deaf after being on the receiving end, they'll probably surrender anyway"
The SAS, probably
It's clear that you've never been on the receiving end of bullets being fired.
@@sigbauer9782 yeah, that's the norm. gonna act all tough and say you have? nice, nobody asked.
@@Deadbeatcow I have, you twat.
@@sigbauer9782 did you read what he wrote? No one asked so stop talking
@@yoavmend1909 go play with your little dolls.
Ian really channeled his inner Cyril Figgis with that "COVERING FIRRRREEEEE!!!"
Makes sense, the shades are there to hide the fact that his eyes are closed.
I’m sure not to many people know what the archer reference is and they will never know how perfect of a comment it really is.
@@jamesgravel7755 much appreciated :-)
Shut up Cyril.
This one just screams for a high quality high framerate recording in the dark to really appreciate that muzzleflash
Even at normal framerates it's a sight to behold (and then immediately lose any resemblance of night sight you've had) czcams.com/video/ivSpvcoBggI/video.html
@@johnathanmcdoe it sure is, thanks for sharing
Welding goggles would be advisable for night shooting 😂
@@johnathanmcdoe
Only second to the Komodo 3000!
watch?v=97WTudZ5qzA
Shot one(semi auto only)with a 12.5 barrel pinned to 16. With a 4 inch flash hider. It was getting to dusk but the sun was still visible. Out of my peripheral vision around the what must have been a 1ft diameter fireball hiding everything in front of me. Except what was down the site picture of a hk91's 100 yard/meter site. I could see the faces of the people 5 shooting benches over lighting up with every shot. Like for a mere moment the sun came back bright. After shot 8 or 9 they moved the last 6 benches over. So we were on the ends of the range positions. They still didn't stay long. Also ian's right when shooting everything fades to just noise and recoil. I can not imagine shooting that anywhere but in a field. Cause for me it left a minor ring to my ears through my ear pro and some spots in my vision.
The “don’t fire that thing so close to my head!” scene from Blackhawk Down but you do it to yourself.
Love that arc.
I find it funny that in that scene the Minimi is the gun that deafens the other guy, but the other guy has an M60. Like shouldn't the M60 be much worse?
It's so funny in movies when no one wears ear protection
I love that movie... 😆😆😆😆😆
If hot cases are in the exact line to your neck and ending down your t-shirt you'll rimender it for a long time...
If you look at 00.30 you can see wher cares are directed to...
That's a nice little "personal earthquake maker", Ian, but I never thought I'd live to hear you say "The good thing here that a Mag Dump is only twenty rounds". That thing sure tests Ian's love for full "Rock-N-Roll".
Love the big pauses between each burst as Ian manfully gathers his senses back together and talk without babbling
Notice the disinterest Ian feigns. We need to nominate him for an Oscar for that performance, because his inner child was dancing with glee at the prospect of shooting a ‘51.
It's potentially the greatest machine guns ever built this far...
So yeah...
We all want one..
@Shane Williams That's barely bougie bruh. Save your bullshit.
No.. that thing looks like it would be downright unpleasant to shoot.
Being at an indoor range next to someone else firing a full size 308 will feel like someone is taking a hammer to your forehead, now imagine that on repeat. Big guns are fun but concussion is not.
Bear in mind that Ian is obviously Al Leong's uglier brother by another mother, and the intro clip is Ian's poor attempt to emulate Al's 80s-movie badass characters.
@@BBHexKey I will go one worse. 50bmg inside a range.
Ian channeling his inner 80’s action hero at the start of the video
“Now I have a (sub?)machine gun. Ho. Ho. Ho.”
THE FORGOTTEN WEAPON
@@LastHCompany They forgot, he did not.
@@borismuller86 I just bought Die Hard 2 and 3 on iTunes. After those three, the sequels sucked. Interestingly enough, it corresponded with Bruce Willis losing his hair. Coincidence? I think not. 🙄
@@Tunkkis I absolutely love this 😂
Imagine being a criminal robbing his house and out of the dark you hear "semi? Nope. FULL"
2:40
“Huh, I could’ve sworn I was wearing black pants, not brown”
🤣
It's not going to stay dark for very long with this thing.
If I remember correctly, the demand for these came from Northern Ireland, where 7.62 was deemed necessary for contacts with gunmen in vehicles, often from other vehicles - hence the folding stock. Until the HK51s were procured, folding stock FN FALs captured in the Falklands were used, as they were more compact than the L1A1 SLR and could be used in fully automatic.
seems like the prefect CQB gun, you fire 20 rounds, miss all 20 and the hostiles are all bleeding from their ears
only downside is that yourself are also bleeding from your ears
It also sets anyone on fire with its giant muzzle flash
What if you practice to purposefully miss and that might make for more hits?
Ah, that puts it in the "less lethal" category, is that it?
It´s a sonic weapon, the bullets are not the main damage dealer here.
Ian: “luckily there are only 20 rounds”
HK51 B: “oh ho ho? Are you sure about that?”
what?! um the more i find out about HK the more i love them.
HK our beloved mad scientists
Holy Gosh the muzzle flash
czcams.com/video/dGPeSUDbUJ4/video.html
@@tegopro86 it’s a great way to remove the hair off the back of your hand.
HK21 in short barreled conversion.
I don't care how impractical the HK 51 is, it's my favorite gun of all time.
The intro slow mo is a masterpiece.
Also the sound from this firing reminds me of all the 80’s action movies when people are firing their weapons.
That **slap** "wheee! COVERING FIRE!" is prime highlight reel footage.
We needed a night time demo - to see the flash-bang dispenser in it’s full glory.
Ian would need a welding helmet for that muzzle flash 😂 but yes I agree
A friend had one of these and I shot it extensively back in the day. We would go to Knob Creek and buy 1000 rounds and shoot it all on the lower range. The only problem with this video is the camera did not pick up the massive ball of flame that would hang on the end. Like a trashcan size. Also you had to keep your teeth clenched or it would chip off enamel. It would also throw brass all down the right side of your position and beat the crap out of people. One of the most show stopping guns out there. Buy a Carlson Nitro flash enhancer for your AR to get a similar effect. Everyone looks.
I love how on the slo-mo he slowly moves out of frame.
This is literally the glorious meme "Jesus driving the merchants from the temple (circa 25 AD colourised)
"
I was like: "Yup, watch him drive 'em."
Jesus cracks whip: "I am the Light and the Way. You're welcome."
Me: "Bruh, I was about to close on a 3.2% refi. I'm upside-down and in divorce mediation."
This reminds me of the time I was at a commercial indoor range, and a guy came in with a .44 Magnum Colt Anaconda he'd just gotten back from being customized. It had something like a 1½-inch barrel. You could feel the blast through the divider walls between the lanes. When he was done, there was a visible fan pattern of unburned powder on the floor in front of his station. Everybody who worked there stopped what they were doing and gathered around to marvel at how much extra money this guy had paid someone to ruin a perfectly good, already quite expensive revolver for him.
He was incredibly proud of it.
Hey, who the hell needs a flashlight
I inherited a short-ish (4 5/8") barreled Ruger Blackhawk chambered in .30 Carbine from my grandfather, honestly it was a weird gun all around and I kinda don't understand why it was ever made.
It may not be the most powerful handgun I own, but by God it's the loudest, since .30 Carbine is absolutely not meant for that barrel length.
Money doesn't make you wise.
@@markfryer9880 But it does let you have fun
Careful with that, Ian. I discovered the hard way that .308, with certain muzzle devices, absolutely can give you a full-on concussion just with a metal awning over your head. I have a 16" rifle with a very aggressive brake; it was just fine shooting it in the open, but when I shot it under a metal awning I had definite concussion symptoms lasting nearly a week. Needless to say, that brake is getting replaced.
I have a stupid brake on one of my Ak’s . As long as you are behind it no problem. It is a literal flash bang standing next to it .
i need the name of that brake...
@@azalkathegunpowderdragon9439 The factory brake on the Ruger gunsite scout (the polymer stock, not the flash hider on the wood stock) is pretty effective
I remember reading somewhere a few years ago that these were asked for to use in N Ireland by the SAS, compact enough to carry in a vehicle, powerful enough to penetrate engine blocks & occupants of other vehicles, which 9mm wouldn’t?
Sounds plausible.
As I can recall, it was written about by Andy McNab in one of his non-fiction books. Firing this beast inside a car through the windshield would be something.
@@nhwnhw02 That's like flash banging yourself in full auto. I can't imagine this going well for the user. You may well be safer on the other side of the gun, in case they miss you the first shot they likely won't hit you ever.
@@nhwnhw02 czcams.com/video/9sGkSNHddH4/video.html Here's the drill with HK53 and P226.
Close protection guys for senior military ranks used to carry HK 53 saw them in the early 90’s in NI
@tadget0566 Yea, 53s were used by a few units in the Province. Some AAC aircrew had them, as did RMP close protection, some infantry COP and a few of the sneaky-beaky units like Det and SAS. RMP CP used them well into the 2000s before replacing them with C8s.
Something I love about Ian and this channel. He's a genuinely thoughtful intelligent guy who researches these guns, but will still make a thumbnail like the one for this video lol.
I like watching Ian. He seems like a goofy but incredibly knowledgeable guy. Great sense of humor with a lot of information.
He looks like a cartel dude in last stand mode in that thumb lolol
@@dereks8930 omg YES! xD
@@dereks8930 Jesus, dude, don't make me laugh that hard 🤣🤣🤣
How to piss everyone off in an indoor range: own a fully automatic hk51
You meant: how to terrify people accustomed to gunshots by owning full auto grenade blaster?
The 51 is an interesting and dramatic weapon to fire, like was said the concussion you feel when shooting is eye opening and if its dark or near dark around the amount flame coming from the muzzle of gun is incredible, its instant night blindness to the shooter for sure and anybody who happens to be looking at the muzzle. The gun is of course and H&K so the quality is superb as is it reliability. The 51 was originally developed and built by a class III builder who also just happened to be one of the largest H&K dealers in the US his company was Fleming Firearms. Well Gordon had been getting asked about a firearm like the 51 the problem is H&K didnt make it, Gordon kept asking them to develop and there is a market for this gun. Finally H&K got back to him and told him that what he was asking for was impossible to build and if they could it wouldn't work so they wanted no part of this! Well then Gordon decided that he would build it himself, which he did. The gun came in two versions initially one was a detachable magazine fed and the other was a belt fed, both of course select fire and besides the short barrel they operate and take down just like every other H&K. I remember when I got the first brochure from Gordon introducing the gun and the price without the tax stamp was 2,300.00$, my first thought was who in the heck is going to pay that much for this gun? Had I only knew! The 51 is reasonably accurate in semi-auto I have found that 3" to 4" at 100 meters is the norm with factory sights off a bench. They always had a few 51s at Knob Creek and I was going to suggest if your there you can rent a 51 to give it a try, well we all know the story on the Knob!
Great gun, extremely invigorating/visceral to fire all in all its worth anybody's time and money to give it a try!
Ian shouting "Covering fire!" Is the best thing I've heard all day
"I believe the phrase is, COVERING FIRE!"
I imagine the follow up phrase would be "Can anyone still hear me?"
Also I shudder at the idea of a poor SBS member having to shot that gun inside ship, all metal walls and tight spaces...
SUPPRESSING FIRE
@@devonlarrattscheckmate2016 It's so good, it suppresses both sides at once!
@Taylor Gates Then I would sure hope I had good medical so I get to keep at least some hearing afterwards :-)
@@devonlarrattscheckmate2016 damn it Cyril!
Mwa* mwa* mwa*
He should put a note stating "No ears were harmed during recording" at the end
He would be lying lol.
@@bioforce5 I was going to say.
I maxed my headphones intentionally,
No regretti
Ears sphagetti
that would be a lie
Shooting a 10.5" 5.56 with a uncovered muzzle brake up front, I need both muffs and plugs and it still has too nasty of a concussion to enjoy indoors.
Get a silencer boys and girls.
The other guy- a 7” AR pistol in an indoors range
Ian- hold my French 75
Really love the slide out of frame at the end there. This thing is a beast to experience live at the indoor range.
The opening slow-mo is just glorious and mesmerizing.
Pure 1980's action movie.
Prime meme material **french chef's kiss**
Agreed, perfect!
Makes Rambo look like a wuss.
Hair down full-auto gun jesus is the content we all subscribed for
Gun Jesus questioning his decisions after firing it every time is gold.
Yeah he really isn't having fun lol. I don't think I could shoot this thing without grinning the whole time
Good video Ian, enjoyed watching you have painful fun with this.
I had the priveledge of shooting the entire HK FA line when I was in college. My favorites for pure
Epic fun were the 51,53 and HK21…
Kicks like a mule, hits like a truck, loud as thunder, and flashbangs folks like nobody's business.
Yep, 100% fun in a neat little package.
You got me in the mood to watch a Canyonero video from the Simpsons.
12 yards long, 2 lanes wide,
65 tons of American Pride!
Canyonero! Canyonero!
SIR! That's my wife you are talking about!
@@onpsxmember
I had to watch the Canyonero video after this as well.
Btw, for anyone else who has that urge, here's a link for the commercial clip:
czcams.com/video/PI_Jl5WFQkA/video.html
You know what? Just for this comment, I dub this gun: Mjlonir
Did you clean that limerick up from British squaddie language ?😁
SAS: "we need something that can clear a room of people wearing body armour, that is the same size as the MP5"
After a week of training, the kill house collapses.
And the team members all have Havana syndrome.
SAS: "Well It works, but is it worth it?"
Is Havana syndrome like Stockholm syndrome, but with cigars?
It's as though they had to take the HK53 concept of making a more powerful MP5 and push it until it broke.
@@ZGryphon no, it’s an unexplained state of disorientation or “brain fog” that seems to have only been documented in State department personnel in foreign missions, first observed in Havana. Some people think it might be evidence of a non lethal weapon created by a foreign entity like something from a James Bond movie.
@@509Gman seems like a dick move to brain-fry diplomats and civil servants. give them just enough permanent brain damage so that they can't continue to work peacefully for the american gov. I wonder if it's the cuban gov or some sort of terrorist organization. weird stuff
@@Pellagrah apparently it takes a lot of brain damage to disqualify someone from working for the US government
I was fortunate at a machine gun shoot to do a mag dump of one of these. I walked away in awe and the next day ordered a Vector V51 SBR with both the fixed stock as well as the collapsible stock. For a couple years I was able to enjoy it with a binary trigger but FL banned enhanced triggers when they banned bump stocks. Thanks to Ian, I’ve now modernized the fixed stock to a Spuhr and a magpul MP5 forend. Still a beast of a gun.
You know I love how much work Ian does for us.... But it really seems like he gets to have a lot of fun too
The gun that says “I might miss but everyone else will be too blind and deaf to do anything about it”
"Blind and dead"... Not sure if that's a typo or not :)
Hence "Automatic Flashbang Dispenser" lol.....
The SBS shock and awe ship recapture loadout...
And so the truth comes out ;)
Picture this lot rolling up on you with 51s blazing: czcams.com/video/iTRlKFfM-2E/video.html
When absolutely positively have to blind everything in the room
"This thing gets all angry and recoily on you"
God I needed that laugh this morning 😂 Thanks Ian.
He can hold the target!
Between Ian's video and y'all's hilarious comments...I'm having a hell of a great Sunday morning!
That was amazing. Ian you nearly lost it a few time. Great to see that cheeky smirk creep through.
Anyone think that the one "news" reporter that swears he has PTSD after going to a range and firing an AR-15 should give this thing a try?
Maybe not...
The poor little lamb would be so traumatised that unlimited Litigation would follow, benefitting only the lawyers and nobody else, least of all us...
Let's Go Brandon
Would probably give that little lamb a TBI from the concussion.
No..might pull a baldwin
lol
"Do you want tinnitus? Because THAT is how you get tinnitus!"
Also: "Mawp..."
SUPPRESSING FIRE!!!
Also me: WHAT??
What? I can't hear you?
Whatever it is yeah ill take it!
LANAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Danger Zone
Phrasing!
3:31 Reminds me when I was at a small indoor range where you can rent full auto (which is sweet), and someone rented the Scar H. Just the shockwaves I felt in my body two stalls over was crazy.
I appreciate the way Ian leans into the role of both presenter of information and living meme template.
As a CQB weapon, this thing is as much a danger to the operator as the enemy. As a lol dispenser however, it is perfect
It also would make team communication completely impossible. I trained CQB and that was a major issue already using 5.56. This would be insane. Also they told us to NEVER clear a room with a rifle cartridge without being in cover and the gun coming around the corner. If it's a concrete wall, the stuff that comes off the wall comes at you at the same speed the bullet went in. I do't even want to imagine the shrapnel in that room if you fire this thing against a stone wall. Yikes...
Clearly the Swedish think otherwise:
czcams.com/video/tBeA24oog-Q/video.html
I think the tought process is:
No need for communication if friend AND foe is deaf.
I don't usually lol when my fillings are ratling out, but hey, each to their own! :P
@@LeutnantJoker seen a lot of comments about CQB\CQC that was never the intended use of these, they were car guns for use against illegal vehicle checkpoints. get stopped by Provos you empty these towards the VCP (alongside flashbangs & the drivers highpower\MP5K) suddenly you're driving off instead of facing days of torture & a unmarked grave.
@@LeutnantJoker Overpen as well, if it doesn't bounces back at you it will go on a trip that would make Jules Verne jealous...
(Although from such a platform velocity is greatly nerfed i think, i'm more familiar with pistol munitions then with rifle's tbh.)
The more i think about it the more "useless" it becomes. Because Bieg Boellet nice, but follow up shots? Ammo capacity? You got 20 flashbangs in your magazine... This gun is the 80/20 principle in the flesh, because for almost everything a trusty MP-5 in 9mm is an equal or better choice, and every slight edge this automatic boomstick might have over 9mm comes with such an usability penalty it's not worth the litteral pain!
But do i wanna shoot the HK51? Hell yeah. No regrets.
(Atleast till after firing.)
They weren’t kidding. Full auto flashbang
He should have done it in SlowMo in the dark!
Those it hits, it annihilates. Those it doesn't hit, it blinds. Those who don't see the flash, are deafened. Those who can neither see nor hear it, are set on fire.
Just wanna say that the thumbnail for this video is absolute perfection!
My understanding is that the reason why British SF were interested in this wasn't to be used for CQB in buildings.
It was for using in Northern Ireland (among other places) for use in vehicles, and on vehicles.
It was found that the 5.56mm of the day was not very good at punching rounds through car wind shields and having enough energy left over to accurately hit what you are shooting at on the other side, with lethal effect.
So this was a solution that allowed a trooper to easily maneuver a significantly powerful weapon inside a car, and be able to engage other cars and the occupants there of.
I don't know about now, but at the time one of the the counter ambush tactics used, if you were ambushed while inside a car, was to fire through the wind shield.
9mm and 5.56mm will obviously shatter the wind shield, and subsequent rounds going through the now open space would be useful.
This cut out the middle man and both shattered the wind shield, and the first round was immediately useful.
At least that's what I heard, but I'm not now, nor have ever been a member of the SAS, so could be wrong.
But it sounded plausible at the time.
"I don't know about now, but at the time one of the the counter ambush tactics used, if you were ambushed while inside a car, was to fire through the wind shield." - the gun trainer on Heat was an ex-SAS guy and when the bankrobbers are caught they start firing through the cars windows
@@kentallard8852 can't comment on UKSF, I'd be shocked if it isn't still taught to them, I know certain police units teach anti-ambush drills 😉
Sounds more like a 14 Int sort of thing than SAS.
I wouldn't be shocked to discover 14\Det had these too, RMP Weapons Intelligence had some interesting longs too.
unbased
In his book "Immiadiate Action", Andy McNab describes a situation where they were escorting a Person of Intrest, in vehicals, and he wished for a short-barreled 7.62, that he could carry and easily deploy from a vehical, that would destroy the engine block of a persuing vehical. He mentioned, a FN with a folding stock from Argentina, or a short barreled H&K G3... but I wonder if that was why this thing (HK51) was considered.
The SAS version of this was based on the G3
I once shot a deer with a .357 from the cab of my pickup. I do not even want to imagine how loud that thing would be inside a vehicle. Just NOPE!
7.62 NATO bullet velocity loses about 25fps per inch you take off. The G3K with a 12.4inch barrel was already running into reported velocity issues with people asking for hotter loads to compensate. I feel like if you were running an 8inch barrel G3 (basically) you'd need a load so hot you were basically killing people with the powder burn or just need to be in dick touching range and use a more sensible load. Even off more modern things the SCAR-H "CQC" is only a 13inch barrel aswell and really I think anyone thats seriously tested it has seen that going much lower than 13inch with a 7.62 just isn't making much sense.
If that was truly a situation that needed a more specialized gun I'd start looking into ways to modify receivers, perhaps a foregrip/bipod assembly of some description designed to brace into a door window and be fired with the stock collapsed, or who knows what actual designers would come up with.
My guess is someone was like "hey the AK74u has an 8inch barrel, LETS DO THIS SHIT!" and failed to realize they also swapped to the 5.45 round so it would actually function ok.
@@Repenter0 desert tech makes the 7.62 bullpup don’t they?
@@Repenter0 I think that if this really is a requirement for some mission, a bullpup 7.62 would actually be the answer.
The archer reference was absolutely impeccable. I really enjoyed it.
I swear, I remember having toy guns of the HK51 and even as a child thinking the magazine on that frame was ridiculous so there would only ever be a squirt gun that cool. Dreams do come true.
This seems more like a "distraction" type of weapon to me.
"We'll have the guy with the HK51 on the hill over there, while the rest of us flank the enemy position. They'll be too busy looking for the rifleman batallion to notice anything else".
Ian lowering himself down to the level of Cyril just so he can scream COVERING FIRE is a moment I won't forget soon.
I was wondering if anyone else caught the reference. LOL
Phrasing!
Do you want ants? Because this is how you get ants.
Isn’t it ‘suppressing fire!’..?
He really did tho
a weapon built for engagements that weren't going to happen in its lifetime
what an absolutely legendary weapon
Handled that mag dump pretty well and looked to have stayed on target pretty good as well.
“Haha it’s like candy from baby” made me laugh way more than I should have lol
"No, sir, I didn't hear the enemy trying to surrender."
Many years ago, before the GCA of 1986, I was a huge SOT dealer, selling probably 20+ NFA weapons a week. I had one of pretty much anything you could imagine. I had, and still have, a Fleming conversion HK51. I found it was more controllable than a full size 7.62 rifle like the G3, M14 or FAL Those do climb like mad, the 51 doesn't. It does make an M60 sound like a .22 in comparison. It will take your breath away, from the blast on your chest, and I'm scared to try and suppress it for fear of grenading a suppressor, but it is a blast (literally).
I've chronographed it, and found that a good .300 Blackout from an equal barrel length is every bit as good, but who cares about practicality when you've got an MP5 in 7.62???
It's incredibly appropriate that one of the spent casings hit the camera in that final mag dump. Concuss everything!
Ian with loose hair:
"Jesus have came for us, and he doesn't intend to redeem us"
"I am the way and the light, except occationaly the light is muzzleflash."
@@m.s.3823 That is freaking gold.😆
@@bryanewyatt It's a quote from Gun jesus Ian himself from here: czcams.com/video/sI3x30iamHc/video.html
Lo in the darkness flickered the muzzle flash to guide us.
He's back, and he ain't crucifuckin around.
Good to see Ian embracing his inner Rambo with that Thumbnail
Not Rambo.
Ian McCollum is... The Forgotten Weapon!
@@ArmandKarlsen *Proceeds to Pull Out a Huot Automatic Rifle and hipfire it like God intended*
@@ArmandKarlsen Now that sounds like the 80's alright!
Someone, please make an 80s style movie poster using the thumbnail! We had that H&K Gun Jesus poster before, this is a perfect follow up!
@@8man_01
"Jesus Christ resisting the Devil's temptation in the desert" -Artist Rendition
I have always adored the Front Sight philosophy regarding a majority of H.K. weapons. The first "assault weapon" I ever fired was an HK-93, circa 1982.
I can totally see the SAS/SBS having one or two of these on a squad if only for one purpose; extricating themselves from ambush or assault by a fairly poorly trained force. Just imagine that cannon firing at you down a hallway or corridor as your warlord is yelling at you to "get em"... it'd take a serious amount of willpower for a half trained conscript or child soldier to face down a weapon that sounds like that.
Oh yeah, you'd want your mate who can lug a PKM trading fire going first with that.
*as john Wick runs into cover...he realizes his ammo has been expended. 4 men rushes towards him. He grabs his pencil...knowing it will be tough. But suddently...loud bangs fill the room. Bright flashes. 2 bad guys on the floor....the others blinded. "My eyes! I cant see a thing!" Yells the big brawly guy. John wastes no time and takes them both out. Where did that flashbang came from?
From the massive smoke a person appears....a weird rifle in hands...a mas 38 on the back with a weird french revolver on the hip...
"hey john...i am Ian. And this is the hk51"
THIS
Do they team up?
@@Fingermush abso ducking lootely!
Perhaps a cameo?
@@Thorshammer82 Depends whether the Ian cameo in the next John Wick movie actually happens.
That thing going off in an enclosed space would deafen and stun not only the shooter (who is expecting it), but also any other occupants. Which I suppose could be a tactical advantage if you're looking more to suppress and overawe than kill.
well, in CQC, ie room sized, it would kill happily and easily :) youve got a full size, fuill power round being dumped into a mass of tissue at 10 yards, you dont need to aim :) The knockback power combined with the concussive effect wouldnt leave much standing
@@roadsweeper1 I'm just wondering what the effects will be like if the SBS was using it for boarding actions. The defenders will be confused by the amount of noise traveling in the narrow corridors of a ship
I just thought of the terror of 20 rounds of .308 bouncing around a small steel shipboard compartment. The deafening roar, the blinding flash, the concussion, and then the ricochets and debris flying everywhere. The closest analogy I can think of is stepping into one of those money blowing machines filled with razor blades and powered by a jet engine. Just all sorts of bad for everyone inside.
It kind of reminds me of what the Aussies did in Vietnam with some of their L1A1s in that they would chop the barrels right at the gas-block, file down the trigger disconnect and use extended mags (the "Bitch" as it was so called). The idea was that it was loud and made a lot of flash, and when it went off, opposing forces thought they were facing a .50 cal or something of that size and power.
@@aeddonmckaba9797 that's a "break contact" gun. Mag dump and run, ain't nobody gonna follow you.
It would be nice to see where the shot was going. Thanks for the info about the rego on this unit.
Gotta admit, either you or the gun or maybe both did a grate job of mitigating the recoil and shooting flat. Especially for what it is.
The SAS decided to ask the question "What if my MP5 could give me and everyone around me ear and brain damage?"
Also deal elemental fire damage with the giant muzzle flash
"Straight to full auto."
The Lord knows what His children need.
Praise be to the Lord.
I love under firing the recoil causes the magazine release paddle to flick forward and almost drop the mag
The smile at the end shows you exactly why you’d want this
Take the flash suppressor off and everyone at the range will get a tan.
Everyone will get 20 layers of tan.
“Ask and ye shall receive oh disciples of Gun Jesus!”
For all the people disappointed yesterday that he didn’t mention a range demo, our prayers have been answered!
I think that was implied
Gun Jesus in Terminator mode. The intro shot is phenomenal :) Add a Mettalica - Sandman on top of it and you're in your '80s Arnie and Silvester mood.
I have an 11” SA58 OSW pistol and it definitely gets your attention.
An 8” HK51 will definitely rock your world.
I was half expecting to hear the sound of a tree falling over after the mag dump.
I wasn’t sure I wanted one until Ian started talking about how loud and angry it was 😂
"COVERING FIRE!"
"Cyril you idiot! Maaap! Maaap!"
The intro will surely become the new "Artist's depiction of Jesus driving the merchants from the Temple, 33AD colourised"
And on this day, a new crop of Gun Jesus memes were born….
Also it legitimately seems like it’s more controllable than an M14, maybe it’s the rate of fire
I mean, it has an inline stock...
It also looks more controllable than some WWII era SMGs.
@@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive ; Probably also because of the inline stock, a canted stock and slow fire rate with open bolt mass bouncing around appears to be what mainly causes inaccuracy and excessive climb.
Handled like a Champ, Ian! Impressive
0:00 Jesus fresh out of the grave enacting vengeance upon the romans, circa 33 A.D.
"I'm not used to things this size pushing me backwards"
That's what she said...
"this thing provides a tremendous amount of concussion and blast and recoil"
"I want to put some more rounds through it"