jonathan + nancy | running up that hill (4x09)
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- čas přidán 3. 07. 2022
- this is somewhat of a character/relationship study with what they threw at us in season 4 with jonathan and nancy. although i think there's a lot of issues with how they wrote them this season, it opened up a lot for them to explore in season 5 (if they do it right!!) and this is just me trying to make sense of it all lmfao.
i have hope for jancy endgame but i'm also torn because of all the stancy teasing and the awkwardness between jancy in the cabin scene. we shall see but i believe, narratively, that it would make no sense to go back to stancy after everything that's happened.
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show: stranger things
ship: jancy
song: running up that hill by placebo
coloring: me
edited with vegas pro 14
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I can't believe some people are rooting so hard for Stancy 2.0 when this ship exists. It's not perfect but it has so much realness to it, it feels like a genuine and very realistic relationship to me. Would be a shame to let it go to waste, I hope the writers don't go there in the final season.
people are just using nancy as a self-insert because they want to be with steve. sadly, he isn’t real so they just have to live through whatever girl he likes 😌
@@stephsux fuck em
I left this ship because they lie to each other a lot and I really didn't like their dynamics in S3 and even less so in S4, even two 15-year-old boys (Mike and eleven) are more honest with their feelings and that there is also another Will ship and Mike.
Jancy has serious problems with communication, trust and interest, are they still a good relationship? can I still say that they are good for each other? I really have my doubts. I'm only questioning their relationship because ultimately this couple is going down on their own and I love that Steve had nothing to do with it. Steve always respected Nancy and Jonathan's relationship, which Jonathan didn't in S2.
@@tadeoperez2598 i know i cant really blame the writters but dude why spend a whole ass story putting Jonathan and Nancy together if they're gonna be separate it feels like a waste of time and imo the "love triangle" shouldn't even be there. Pisses me off bruh
@@tadeoperez2598 mmmm idk about all that. jonathan was very respectful of stancy in s2. he took nancy home after steve left her at the party drunk, and then lied to nancy saying steve asked him to when he didn’t, just to make steve look better. this has always been debatable, but nancy made it clear to steve that she didn’t love him (basically a breakup) and jonathan was aware of that, so how did he disrespect them? nancy is the one who disrespected steve, if anything. and at this point you can’t say that steve has always respected jancy. as far as steve knows, jancy are still together and strong. yet he decides to tell nancy his dream about her mothering his 6 children when she’s in a relationship? that is not respect, it’s very selfish of him.
I think Murray said everything in S2 about them and I don't understand why Nancy and Steve suddenly like each other again after two years without any interaction
Honestly steve never fell out of love for her but w nancy i think she sees steve as like a safe place since they were together before all this happened but she doesn’t actually have feelings for him i mean she admitted to johnathan that she didn’t love steve lowkey
All I want for seasons 5 is bring back old Jonathan... And end his story perfectly with Nancy...
What makes them more adorable is that they are together in real life as well!
I just hate what the Duffers are doing. It was already shit how mistreated and sidelined Jonathan's character was and now, his relationship is rushed. Even if they had gone through everything Jancy did, Stancy just don't know each other that deeply. There is physical attraction? maybe. But Jancy is the whole package. I just hate how the media is hyping Stancy up just because they're Steve fans. It is about the relationship, not the character. With all this hype my biggest fear is that the Duffers decide to make them endgame to please the public
i agree. all that stancy has is physical attraction. they’ve never had a deep conversation, steve doesn’t know anything about what nancy wants because he doesn’t care. it is a selfish relationship and it always has been.
@@REN-bi9by did i not explain enough?
@@REN-bi9by but actually, my problem isn’t really with steve himself. my real problem is the fans’ worshipping of steve to the point that the writers themselves started neglecting the other characters’ stories and growth. that steve stans can’t see past their obsession and idolization of him that anytime any other character is mentioned in any way on social media or otherwise, they have to somehow make it about steve. and because of that, the social media accounts have started to join in. it’s frustrating as someone who loves the first season and the characters it revolved around (THE BYERS FAMILY) and no one gives a shit about them anymore, including their creators. this is the steve effect. and as someone who didn’t fall in love with steve like everyone else did, i’m left with table scraps for the characters i love on this show. the end.
@@REN-bi9by i don’t think the fandom worships him for no reason. i do understand the appeal, just not the point that it’s gotten to. steve fans are CONSTANTLY dragging jonathan through the mud (and charlie) insulting his looks, saying he’s worthless, he should be killed off, he’s nothing but a creep, etc. my opinion on their behavior changes nothing. the fact is, if the show treated jonathan as an important character worth growing after season 1, it would likely be a different story. steve and jonathan have always been portrayed as rivals, so yes, it is valid to compare them to one another, even when it comes to treatment in the writing. also i never said steve was selfish, i said stancy is a selfish relationship and that he has acted selfishly when it comes to her. i realize that steve has had many selfless moments, including when he let nancy go to jonathan at the end of season 2. but he is now going back on that and pursuing nancy while she is in a relationship. how i feel without regarding the fandom is this: steve is a great character that has changed a lot for the better, but he should not be with nancy. that’s it.
@@REN-bi9by i definitely agree. what they did with stancy was just weird. i do think steve might die at the end because of the Duffers saying they want to go “full circle back to season 1” where the original ending had steve dying… i wouldn’t want that though.
I love the parallels to the vanilla relationship that is Stancy. I mean the latter don’t even compare in terms of chemistry, passion and a deep abiding, profound love and understanding of one another. Even now, Steve’s dream was his own, NOT Nancy’s & that relationship is once again all about what Steve wants and needs. Jancy are real equals and partners, they are an OTP for a reason and anyone who disagrees is really not paying attention to their dynamic. Even when they’re miles away, fighting and not communicating, their bond is unshakable. I’m just saying, Stancy would be a real downgrade after these two. 🙄
THANK YOU YES!!! took the words right out of my mouth. steve never ONCE considered or cared how nancy feels. just kept droning on about HIS dream and how HE feels about her. nancy couldn’t even get a word in. jonathan, on the other hand, cares so much that he was willing to break up with her, when that’s the last thing he wants to do!!! anyone who doesn’t see this doesn’t care at all about nancy.
Agreed 💯 %!!
Steve deserves better🙏
@@jennak5902 but this is not Nancy for sure
if you are absolutely right nancy and jonathan are just as liars that go perfectly hahaha love is in the air 🤣🤣🤣
If they don’t end up together, I’m gonna be pissed!
me fuckin too!
Am I the only one who noticed how uncomfortable Nancy looked when Steve told her she was THE one in his dream? She liked the dream, but she didn't want to be a part of it because that's not HER dream, that's HIS, and she has never wanted to settle down and have kids
yes, i for sure noticed, and i know probably every other jancy shipper noticed it too. this is one of the biggest reasons i can’t see them actually going through with a stancy endgame. i know it seems like the duffers only care about steve right now, but they can’t just backtrack everything they’ve ever told us about nancy and her dreams for the future to make it happen.
Cause she don’t wanna end up like her mom
I just hope that Nancy finds out that Jonathan won't go with her to the University hahaha and oh surprise he lied to her with that, what a novelty, maybe it's better that they leave her alone. Since it is seen that a long-distance relationship cannot be carried out with Jonathan
@@tadeoperez2598 but Jonathan and the family are back at Hawkins now. And he only lied to avoid hurting her
EXACTLY
I’m honestly so hopeful they do not ruin this relationship. We get it, the Duffers LOVE Steve. A lot of us love Steve. But wasn’t a whole part of him growing accepting that he and Nancy didn’t work? All they’re doing in S4 by trying to reanimate the bones of Stancy is regressing him as a character.
And this isn’t even going into how what Steve wants in his dream of six kids is literally *everything* Nancy hates and is running from, how there’s a boatload of depth to Jancy as a couple, and how Jancy are equals in their relationship.
Honestly, if they hadn’t floated Steve and Nancy in front of people, very few would be even wanting this right now. My gut is telling me they won’t end Jancy because that would involve decimating seasons of character development (on top of making not much sense and the whole Upside Down threatening to swallow the world thing), but every so often I start to get paranoid that maybe the Duffer Bros are gonna pull some season 8 GoT bullshit 😅
Beautiful edit! This is the sort of stuff Jancy shippers need
i feel the same! hopeful but also worried that we may be putting too much faith in the Duffer brothers 😂🥴
The Duffers and society in general have a serious problem with Steve. In both Jancy's reunion and Robin and Vickie's talk they had to include Steve. Why? Why do you make everything about Steve? It is incredibly annoying and his character should've died honestly, he is already so overused and overwritten
Yes
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@@22taylorsversion9 ive never agreed with something more, steve honestly isnt that great of a character and is literally only comedic relief (and he isnt even funny) and there to feed the horny 11 year old girls. in s2 when he called nancy bullshit after she told him she didnt love him when she was drunk i was so angry, he didnt have to do all that and she was literally grieving and steve didnt do anything to help or try to understand her. his entire character plot is s3 was to learn that he didn't need nancy and that he doesnt need to date every women he lays eyes on, and in s4 they threw it all away because steve needs to be treated like a prince bc everyone loves him, it bothers me how much the duffer brothers always do things only for the fans.
im so glad how you mentioned the jancy reunion and robin/vickie talk, they absolutely didnt have to put him in their, im 99% sure it was to make people feel bad for him or to respect him more, in the robin and vickie talk we finally got some queer representation in the show, showing how robin and vickie feel for eachother and they just had to put steve there, eavesdropping. im pretty sure he was meant to die in s1 and ik im gonna get hate for this but im kinda dissapointed he didnt.
This is one of the best video edits I've seen of Nancy and Jonathan. I've rooted for these two ever since they talked at the funeral place when Jonathan was looking for Will's coffin. I felt the chemistry then! ❤Steve fans wants Nancy to be with him because he is popular and funny, but I don't think they have the chemistry and connection that these two have. I'll be so disappointed if the writers put Nancy back with Steve.
this is simply PERFECT. every detail is so on point! this is literally a video essay why jancy is the superior st couple. thank you so much for this awesome edit!
wow thank you so much! it definitely is a video essay 😩
JANCY MUST BE THE ENDGAME😩
Just finished watching Season 4 this month and thank you for this edit! I'm glad there are still lots of people who loves Jancy! 🥺 💜 Steve is one of my fave characters in this show but if the duffer brothers will push this Stancy endgame, it will really piss me off! I really much prefer this ship (Jancy) because I really love their chemistry and their dynamics. I do think that Stancy only has that "physical attraction" but with Jancy, their relationship is really deep and Jonathan really CARES for Nancy. Steve in s4 kind of annoys me tbh especially when he told his dream of having 6 kids with Nancy while knowing that Nancy is in a relationship with Jonathan. I don't know what the duffer brothers are doing with Steve's character, they should just make him move on and I'm really hoping that they will not destroy Jonathan and Nancy's relationship in season 5! 🙏
If they break them up and make Stancy happen what’s the message? Come back to the guy who never listened to you? The one who was toxic and made you feel sht? The one who never bothered to know who you actually are as a person?
I love Jonathan and Nancy, but honestly I’m even more concerned about her ending up with Steve than I am about them breaking up (though that would break my heart.) Because again, that message is really harmful.
i 100% agree
@@stephsux Right?! And I love Steve as a character but I feel like is a disservice to everyone involved. It shows recess, not evolution. And it would fall on the trope of “he changed for me” -big eye roll. Name a more toxic trope… And also undermining Steve’s evolution and him changing for HIMSELF. Nah, Nancy and Jonathan are meant for each other, they respect and love each other deeply and have been each other’s support. They DESERVE to be happy together. Otherwise I’ll only take Nancy with Robin or Nancy single.
You're leaving out that Steve has evolved to become a totally different person as well as the best character in ST, same as Nancy's change, so the message would be that everyone can change for the better and if that happens, they deserve the best.
@@phillycorrigan3508 firstly, steve being “the best character in ST” is a matter of opinion, not everyone thinks that. secondly, just because steve and nancy have both changed doesn’t mean they should end up together. everything in their past DID happen and as we saw briefly in episode 7, steve is a big part of nancy’s trauma with barb. that is a huge part of her character that continues to be brought up, and i’m sure it will be relevant again in s5. she loves jonathan and her growth has been shown through her relationship with jonathan, not with steve.
@@phillycorrigan3508 No. Specially after him specifying that he changed FOR HER. It reinforces such a toxic trope. Them ending up together would be a recess for both their characters and leave out a really bad message that could literally make people stay in toxic relationships because “he’ll change for me.”
I love Steve a lot of us do, but the thing that sealed it being these two as my favored one is that when Steve told Nancy his dream, she said that sounds terrible and when he told her he always saw her as part of it, her reaction didn't look positive to me. To me if they were to be together one of them would have to sacrifice their dream and neither of them deserves that.
please they have one of the best kiss scenes I've ever watched, the chemistry is on point. I love Steve and all and I hate the way they did dirty my boy Jonathan in S4, but JANCY is still the best
I like them together better because he’s always there for her🥺❕💕
I don't understand why the flipping hell you would choose stancy over jancy, it's not just destroying one of the most powerful connections in the programme but also destroying a well developed character (steve). Also everybody is saying "Jonathan was lying to her through the whole of s4", if you actually paid attention you would realise that he is only doing that so she pursues HER dream. He's doing it out of love. Where as Steve's dream is literally the opposite to what Nancy wants. Like I don't understand how people think it's acceptable to root for stancy 🤔
exactly!!!
@@stephsux nah I forever ship stancy, I just think that steve and nancy have both changed and never really got a chance in season 1, I understand jancy and why people like it, but I think nancy has to cut the crap and choose which side shes on. she is looking at steve like she loves him, then running off and hugging jonathan. maybe nancy needs some alone time, XD (my opinion)
Quite honestly the only reason why I think Nancy looked interested in Steve again for like a minute is because she hasn't seen Jonathon in forever and when you're separated from your partner for a while, it's only natural to accidentally looking at someone in that way who you were once attracted to and cared for. And it's not her fault because Jonathan barely made an effort to stay in contact. I do think Nancy probably did love Steve once but was not in love and was too mad at the situation with Barb to really want their relationship anymore.
My favorite ship ever !! I love them so much
i love this and i really hope the writers leave that love triangle alone,as much as i love steve i feel like they didn't know what to do with his character this season (look at the difference with him in s3) and went with the stancy route because jonathan was away,which is so annoying why can't they just be friends.
Jonathan and nancy have been through so much together it would be such a disappointment to lose them over a college subplot,may i also add the writers forgot Jonathan wanted to go to NYU since he was a kid,but obviously when a character isn't deemed attractive he gets sidelined despite being one of the mains since s1,anyways great work with the editing
I just watched a Stancy Video, so I searched for this. Steve had his primetime in season 3 without Nancy. A Stancy comeback is not a good idea.
Me neither. I hate them together and honestly I don’t like Steve. I mean he’s just so awful to Jonathan. Like not only did he bully him for years but then now trying to steal Nancy from him while Jonathan never tried to pursue Nancy when she was with Steve. Then he had the audacity to tell her that she will be the mother of his six children even though she is with Jonathan and has said a thousand times that she doesn’t want children or turn out like her parents. He doesn’t even know her honestly or have anything in common with her while Jonathan knows her very well, want the same things in life and have a lot in common. I tried and tried to like him because he’s supposedly a good guy but he’s really not since he’s trying to force his dream on Nancy and pursuing her when she’s dating Jonathan. She loves Jonathan not Steve. I am like it’s been two years just move the hell on! It’s so disrespectful of him making the moves on Nancy when she’s with Jonathan while Jonathan was respectful and never did that.
I understand that the writers might wanted to challenge their relationship in this season so we can see how Nancy is challenging to accept Steve's change(because let's be honest the guy has shifted character). However, Jonathan had always been there for her. All three of them were students in the first 2 seasons who managed to express themselves and stop hiding behind a mask because of peer pressure. They all changed. Especially Steve. But Jonathan was the one who met Nancy in a difficult moment(Barbs death) and helped her accept her inner self and start her own journey. He was there for her, respected her by speaking truth to her about his impression of her, just like she did whe she called him freak. When Steve broke his camera was understandable but that was Jonathans way to hide, just like steve who was trying to be the alpha rich guy of a group of idiots and nancy her girlfriend and part of the popular kids. In that way, Jonathans help led nancy to help Steve in her way by breaking up with him.I understand that they are attracted to each other, but Nancy spent most of her time with Jonathan and grew with Jonathan. Jonathan had always been protective like Steve (but Steve didn't care about his people until Nancys break up when he realized that he actually cares about her /that was a big step).Jonathan had been the man of the house, a protective brother and a shy loner. In s4 was still a protective grown up but they just didn't handle it that good and he seemed weak the whole season. That gave space to stancy. I mean I get it but it is not necessary to happen. It is necessary to have a fight as a normal couple but they lie to each other because they love each other and respect each other's future and careers. In s5 they need to talk open and serious about their future in college and their motives and clear their misunderstandings.
I love the two of them as a couple, but I really fear that the Duffer brothers might separate them.
I actually feel bad for Charlie Heaton. I don't care what the fandom says, but after watching all of the trio's work, it's clear that Charlie is the most intense and dramatic actor with the most range and potential. However, he is the most ignored of the trio and isn't even given scenes to perform. I am sure that outside of Stranger Things, he has a solid chance of having a great acting career and will seriously evolve if everything goes right.
i’m really pissed that they did all this relationship development only for them to break up so she will end up with steve. they did jonathan dirty in season 4 and i hate the writers for this. i want them to be endgame
Джонатан и Ненси настолько реальны, и этот намек на возвращение Стенси кажется таким смешным, но видно, что его пытаются оправдать, уничтожая личность Джонатана, надеюсь в пятом сезоне ее вернут, а не будут дальше раскладывать по кирпичикам. Я люблю Дженси всей душой, они идеальная пара. Я люблю Стива, но не могу отрицать его быструю влюбчивость: он был влюблен в Робин, потом получив отказ вновь начал ухаживать за Ненси, у Стива есть психологические проблемы, он похоже не может воспринимать себя как личность без девушки, и как мне кажется для его развития нужно дать ему шанс понять себя как единное, а не сводить снова с Ненси
Монтаж прекрасен❤
I have this feeling that they are going to break up, but not in a bad way or at least in the end they will just be friends because they have a lot of history. What makes me sad is that they have to give less character development to Jonathan in order to leave Steve as "the best option". Steve and Jonathan are the best option on their own and there is no need to make one look bad to make another look better. Both are great. I wish Jonathan and Nancy would stay together but I think it's too late because Nancy is looking at Steve the way she used to look at Jonathan before they started a relationship. It will be painful to see that process but I think it is the most likely thing to happen 😢
i wish i could say i disagree with you 😭 i still have some hope that they’ll fix it just because of all that jancy has been through from season 1. it just is really disappointing to have the love triangle making a comeback. it is a bit of a backtracking narratively if they decide to make nancy fall in love with steve. especially after murray’s read on her, are they trying to say that he was wrong? what’s even the point of that? idk, i’m just hoping the duffers are smarter than that…
@@stephsux and it is not bad that you have hopes! because the real plot twist would be that Nancy, even knowing that Steve has changed, still chooses Jonathan! and that she is happy for Steve for how mature he is now and wish him find someone who loves him without a doubt!
@@majoeolkay3724 would love it if they made it 🤞
@@majoeolkay3724 jonathan deserves more character development, but I don't know why they not doing that, they are only trying to highlight Steve, that's why most of fans attracted to only Steve, I feel very sad about jonathan, but anyway jonathan and Nancy are dating in real life 🙃.
I actually feel bad for Charlie Heaton. I don't care what the fandom says, but after watching all of the trio's work, it's clear that Charlie is the most intense and dramatic actor with the most range and potential. However, he is the most ignored of the trio and isn't even given scenes to perform. I am sure that outside of Stranger Things, he has a solid chance of having a great acting career and will seriously evolve if everything goes right.
I hope they dont make steve and nancy a thing again. It would be such a waste of the relationship growth jonathon and nancy had, and if they make it through s5 oml theyd be such a perfect and realistic power couple.
Omgggg i love him and her ❤️
I love Nancy and Jonathan! ❤️
I haven’t even gotten to s4 yet but judging by how it sounds they’re ruining their relationship to make stancy look better.. I knew they’d pull this shit.. but it doesn’t make any sense. She admitted she didn’t love Steve and they built 2 seasons showing their beautiful strong relationship?? So they’re just creating drama to cater to the stancy fans 😑😑
Nice video! I love this relationship and I hope that they stay together in Season 5. It just doesn't make sense for them to break up. Jancy actually has chemistry, unlike Stancy. I hope that the creators make better writing decisions with this couple in Season 5.
Sorry Steve, as much as I love you, I refuse to ship Nancy with anyone else but Jonathan Byers.
Nancy x Steve = Jean Grey x Wolverine
Nancy x Jonathan = Jean Grey x Cyclops (aka the real couple).
if the writers ever throw away this amazing slowburn relationship for fuckin steve, it would be the biggest mistake in tv history
It's awesome thank you for this
Love this edit
wow love this edit!❤
thank you!
this is the best edit i’ve ever seen
wow thank you!!!
This is so amazing 🥰💜
thank you so much!!! 💙
I'm in love with this video ❤.
thank youuu ❤️
Bruh first you used Placebo’s cover of “Running Up That Hill”. Absolute perfection, I’ve been obsessed with this version since I was a teen.
Second, I’ve accepted that Stancy’s endgame because the Duffer brothers don’t give a fuck about Jonathan. But thank you for reminding me about how intimate and special Jancy has been. 😞 I’m sad so many people don’t see it.
ahhhh yes i love this version of the song too! (it’s actually the first i ever heard of it) i don’t think stancy will be endgame. the Duffers actually said recently that they want to see jonathan and nancy together again like in season 1! i think this is a good sign that they are reintroducing the love triangle just to reinforce jancy in the end. 🤞
@@stephsux Where did they say that?? 🙈
@@rookiemonster646 in the Vol 2 Aftershow
@@stephsux best news i read today !!
Jancy forever
if they break up I'll be heartbroken but stancy endgame would be worse than that imo
i agree. if they all end up single it would be for good reason.
1:46 Nancy: Holy sh*t you're more beautiful then before😍
Also Nancy: *Immediately dumps Steve*
My sis: STANCY
Me: EW DON'T SPEAK OF THAT ITS JANCY
And after she started to like Jonathan X Nancy that's how she got a brain
am i the only one who thinks it sounds like jamie is singing the song?
Something doesn't quite click with Jancy for me, tbh. But I have to admit you've done a good job reminding me of what I like about them. BTW, I'm not saying that makes me a Stancy fan either. I'm kinda Team All of Them Being Happy... and I just don't know what that looks like in the end.
i totally respect that!
i love steve as a character now that he’s well developed. i think he’s a great character but putting him back with nancy makes absolutely no sense. jonathan’s always been there for nancy,and knows her a whole lot better than steve ever has. the original stancy was literally nancy wanting popularity and wanting to impress steve the whole relationship. and let’s not forget how steve left her at a party,alone and drunk,just because they had an argument. i get nancy was out of line,but that’s not cool. the steve stans aka jonathan haters most of the time need to chill out and reevaluate. just because steve is great now,doesn’t mean anything. going back to nancy is like returning to the past him. an asshole and a bully
adding onto the jonathan haters subject,people really take him the wrong way. yes he’s done some questionable and stupid things,we all know that. but SO.HAS.STEVE and some of these die hard steve lovers were so quick to forgive steve just because he got better as a person. but jonathan’s always been a great person to everyone around him to the best of his ability,yet people always bring up his past and hate him for it. even if jonathan sorta fell off the wagon this season,if the duffer brothers are smart and logical enough,they can give him a great redemption
Nice video.
thank you!
True love ❤️
İ've got a weird feeling that either Steve or Nancy are going to die in season 5. İf Nancy, both boys will be destroyed. İf Steve, she will claim that she loves Steve when he will be dying but then she will solve things with Jonathan and end up with him.
i love steve, but he and nancy just do not make any sense. honestly i really hope that nancy and jonathon do take a break so that they can grow as people and follow their dreams, and then grow back together when they’re ready.
Can you post another edit of them with the song take on the world by you me at six?
that’s such a good song for them!
@@stephsux thanks!! I agree😊
OMG THANKS SOOOOOOOOO MUCH, ❤✨JANCY✨❤ FOREVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRR!!!!!!!
I was very scared this season because I didn't want Nancy and Jonathan to break up, this couple is PERFECT, and I LOVE Steve, I really do, but to be Nancy's boyfriend I don't like him, literally the Duffer brothers would mess it up by getting Steve and Nacy back together, Jancy is the best couple in the series. I think that Jonathan and Nancy were prepared to end up together in season 1, and remember that they cut their hands at the same time, and when they put their hands together the scars fit, but they are soulmates for other things apart from that, the ship stancy it's not real for me, it's like a forced relationship, I don't see love in them, Nancy is happy with Jonathan and Jonathan is happy with Nancy and Steve should understand that. And it would not make sense for them to break up this couple in the series. Right now I'm worried that Jonathan (and Charlie) is getting hate from Steve's fans, because they are like "enemies", and Steve is being given a lot of importance and Jonathan is being insulted etc and Jonathan (and Charlie) doesn't deserve this. And it makes me angry that fans of ❤✨Jancy✨❤ have gone to stancy and it doesn't make sense, and I'm so glad that there are still so many people who still ship ❤✨Jancy✨❤ so thank you!!
*It would be great if Jonanthan stop lying to Nancy about the College application letter; to make her feel comfortable with his decision to left his dreams behind just to keep with her. Both were giving up a part of their lives for the sake of the other; that at the same time is beautiful; it is harmful. Steve has grown a lot as a person; I would like him to ENDS UP WITH ROBYN (I wish she was bisexual just to be with him) and if Nancy is going to get back together with him, I hope they both will not be childish about their feelings; and both her and Jonathan again; for they must be MATURE more; and not get this fear that both romances won't go ahead because of your choices.*
Nancy hasn't told Jonathan about her returned feelings for Steve either and not to mention she kinda almost cheated on Jonathan with Steve in s4 so they are both lying to each other
Don't just blame Jonathan when Nancy just as in the wrong but at leats Jonathan wasn't flirting with some other girl when he wasnt around Nancy and didnt emotionalie cheated on her
yeah like why build jancy and make them be a perfect couple when they are just gonna ruin them also nancy and steve where a little more inapropriate. so i swear if stancy is back in season five im gonna cry and scream alsohave you seen charlie (johnathan) and natalia (nancy) in real life
If they break nancy and Johnathan up. I'm canceling my subscription
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İ don't like stancy
Yeah same
Me neither. I hate them together and honestly I don’t like Steve. I mean he’s just so awful to Jonathan. Like not only did he bully him for years but then now trying to steal Nancy from him while Jonathan never tried to pursue Nancy when she was with Steve. Then he had the audacity to tell her that she will be the mother of his six children even though she is with Jonathan and has said a thousand times that she doesn’t want children or turn out like her parents. He doesn’t even know her honestly or have anything in common with her while Jonathan knows her very well, want the same things in life and have a lot in common. I tried and tried to like him because he’s supposedly a good guy but he’s really not since he’s trying to force his dream on Nancy and pursuing her when she’s dating Jonathan. I am like it’s been two years just move the hell on!
I know people ship Nacy and Jonathen, but relize it was never going to be them. They got tegether becuase Nacy was in a bad time with Barbara's death. But Nacy and Steve were always going to be endgame. Through out the seasons Steve and Nacy stil loved eachother even if it wasnt said outolud. They were always going to be endgame. No matter what.
LOL, no. steve was supposed to die in the original season 1 script but they kept him on because they liked joe keery. the only reason they brought stancy back is because they didn’t know what to do with steve and to give nancy and jonathan “problems” in their relationship.
I don't think the romantic type of love is special. And I am started to think that the romantic type of love isn't real. I mean about more than half of romantic couples either break up with each other or divorce each other, while most platonic best friends remain friends until death.
I think that having a platonic best friend is a lot better than having a romantic partner or spouse is. Having someone who's like a sibling to you is a lot better than having a romantic partner or spouse. Also, you are more likely to be much more closer to someone who's like a brother or sister to you than you would be with a romantic partner or spouse.
People tend to fight with their partner or spouse a lot more than they do with a platonic best friend, and you never fight with your best friend the way you fight with your partner or spouse. Partners and spouses are just temporary. If you break up or divorce them, it's hard to go back to them. With your platonic best friend, you're going to make things work, because they are your best friend, they are your go to partner. It's always easier to make amends with them than it is with a romantic partner or spouse.