Kingsong S18 REVIEW - An Old EUC WORTH Buying?
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- čas přidán 16. 07. 2022
- Kingsong S18 review is now done. I cover 6 areas in this EUC review and most importantly, would this classic Kingsong model be a fit for you?
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Would you buy the S18 or would you get a different EUC? Share your opinion below ⚡️
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I started out with V10F, than got an MSP. So now I'm looking for suspension. S18 might be a good place to start.
Cheers
Thank you for the support!
I following along behind you, got an excellent deal on a V8s after watching a lot of EUC content. For me personally, I’m not super interested in off-roading beyond simple trails, so I’m not as sure about the necessity of suspension. Where the s18 loses me a bit is on range and top end speed. In my mind at least, when I upgrade I see it expanding out how far I ride, so I’d probably want some more range, and I live in a suburban area that has a war on pedestrians, so going far means no sidewalk on some busy and fast roads. I’d want some speed to get off those as quickly as possible. I was eyeing a v12 before the deal on the v8s made me jump in early. I’ll master it and see how I feel. Still, enjoyable video. You’ll probably want to revisit as you try more wheels, as it’s hard to affix numerical scores when you don’t have much to compare to.
V8s is definitely a nice entry wheel. I agree about the range plus speed. Although the torque is lacking a bit, would need a bit more if riding along traffic.
In saying that, it is so comfortable to ride. I really cannot complain.
The S18 is one of the most iconic EUCs of all time. However, the newly released Begode Falcon will likely replace the S18 as the ideal portable suspension EUC.
i had the s22 not a fan the s18 checks all the boxes very nimble great ride height suspension is very good the heavier more powerful wheels are too bulky for offroad
I got mine a few weeks ago as my second wheel after learning on a Ninebot S2. I love the S18 so far, just the right combination of performance, comfort and portability. And it obviously looks great. My other option was a Gotway RS but I think it would have been too heavy to carry up the stairs as I live in a second floor flat.
Great to hear. I really do like this wheel. Which version did you get?
@@Movelectrics Don't know about versions, the retailer only had one option.
@@Murgoh there is the latest S18 Molicel. Find it which one you have
@@Movelectrics I believe it's the regular version, no mention of a special battery anywhere.
@@Murgoh either way it’s a great EUC. I am still thinking of purchasing one for myself.
OK great video, I'm a proud owner of the EX.N and Sherman MAX and am very happy with but... I need a smaller and more nimble EUC for short shopping trips, etc. I like the suspension idea, and you added many points to the list of why I would or will buy the S18 as my third EUC. Thanks for the video and ideas. For the speed, I use EX.N for the long rides Sherman, and S18 will be my urban form of transport. Stay safe, ride fast and have fun.
I’m yet to try an EXN. A few people use them here from group rides or long trips. Thank you for the support and best of luck in your next wheel 👊🏼
Feel the same way, what did you get?
@@froehlcj to be honest, none, I'm very undecided
I just got one as my first wheel. It's a bit intimidating at first due to it's size, but it has a great and crazy comfortable ride. Very happy with everything but the braking performance. However, being my first wheel, maybe the braking is similar and not amazing on all EUC's.
Just take you time and gear up 👊🏼
Have about 300 miles on my S18 and so very happy with it. Made my own pads and swapped the shock for a super soft ride. The most important aspect of the S18 to me is the suspension because I am a bit older and have weak knees, ankles and feet. My wife has major knee issues and is able to ride the S18 fine. Speed and high torque is low on my list of priorities. I have considered the V11 as a 2nd wheel, but I'd probably go with S18 molicel just because long term maintenance will be easier between the two wheels.
This is great to read. Amazing to hear that your wife rides it with no issues at all ⚡️
Where can we see your custom pads? ✌🏼
Oneride do their own oneride.eu/?src=link&ref=G07CtZhxy8RGJOrf
What shock did you get instead? I also want the smoothest ride possible for my knees 🦵🦵
@@maximilianglaser7397 I just velcro'ed memory foam chair armrests to the wheel just above the calf. It's nice and squishy.
I love the look of the wheel but the speed and range let it down for me. I find in London traffic I need to be able to cruise at 50kph to stay with the traffic on many roads. I know the top speed of the wheel is 50kph but that's a "top speed" and it would depend on various factors (rider weight, incline, battery level etc). I' not a speed merchant, and prefer to stay at 40kph, but I ride on the road and feel safer if I can keep with the traffic at all times. I'd also find it limiting with the 1100Wh battery. I had a KS16S with an 840Wh battery and I found after a standard commute I'd need to recharge when I got home. With my Nikola Plus 1800Wh I can go for 3 or 4 days. It's certainly a stunning looking wheel and if you don't need to go fast or far then this would be an excellent wheel.
Definitely take a look at the new Kingsong S19 then oneride.eu/?src=link&ref=G07CtZhxy8RGJOrf
One issue is that buying a S18 seems to be hit or miss in terms of issues, like the bolts on the suspension being so tight that the suspension won't move and that the bolt heads strip when trying to loosen them up. Another issue is the amount of maintenance, especially on S18's that arrive needing adjustments. One complaint is the suspension is too stiff to make much difference with small bumps, not much improvement in comfort for those small bumps, so it's mostly an advantage for off-road or going off curb's or down stairs. I'm wondering if there are vendors that will do a test setup and ride on an S18 before shipping it so that the buyer doesn't end up with issues on a new S18.
Good points! Oneride sent me the wheel, have it a few weeks before I send it back.
But what you just mentioned, they actually test the wheel before it is sent out to the customer plus they send a video to you before it is shipped. They did this with my V8s.
Was very happy with them.
I agree, that all suppliers should do this. See the issue before the customer receives the product.
I'm about 82Kg, I ride with 29psi tyre pressure, 220/40 in the shock 8 clicks rebound. This allows 13mm sag on the shock when I stand on the wheel. The shock pressures are "with the block"/ "without the block". I regularly wipe the shock and suspension guides in cycle dry-lube. I was going to replace the shock with a coil over, but quite frankly I like it the way it is.
@@Movelectrics - there are posts at reddit and euc forums and one or more videos about issues with the S18. Seems that there have been more issues with recently shipped EUCs in general versus a year ago, not just S18's.
The S18 wheel I have has almost 4000kms on it. Was one of their demo wheels. Thank you for sharing 👊🏼
I just got the v12ht. It's very hard to learn. I've only tried for 15 minutes so far. I bought it second hand, and gaffa taped it heaps for scratches. Getting over my fear of falling is the main thing. And the wobble is scary too.
It’ll get easier ⚡️
You wouldn't learn any EUC in 15 minutes. Steep learning curve, took my almost a week at an hjour a day.
I have the S18 and a 16X, the suspension is what makes the S18, I ride the 16X for the greater range and higher torque. I wont be parting with either of these wheels.
The 16x I would like to try. How many miles you have on them?
@@Movelectrics Around 300 miles to date. I put up my Tours on EUC World. I'm at the Lizard about as far South as it is possible to go in the UK.
Can't agree more about KS16X, unfortunately, I've sold mine a few months ago and I'm regretting that decision as hell. Sure I do have great EUCs,s right now the EX.N and Sherman but the fun on KS16X is not comparable to anything like that. Now I'm looking into buying the S18 as my third EUC for the urban environment and doing my shopping etc.
Hi, I would like to know about Ks 18 the real autonomy? How many kilometers does it really do on a full charge? Then I would like to know if it is a means to rest assured or does it break often? Treating it well of course... Thanks and congratulations for the video!
Hi
I never got the opportunity to test the full range as I only had the wheel for a short time. But there are range test videos already on CZcams. People mentioned range of around 60kms but again, depends on how you ride.
I appreciated your s18 video. Can you let me know where you got your helmet mirror from? I haven't found one of the size near me.- thanks
Thanks for the watch! I show you the helmet mirror in this video and explain how it’s set up czcams.com/video/RDGULswVIm8/video.html
I would take the s18 sliders over the rollers of the s22 any day
Have you tried the molicel version. Whole different beast.
I have not actually. So what makes it so different?
I would like to try that, I set a current alarm on EUC World of 20A on the LG batteries to keep me out of trouble, you could draw as much as 30A but you would be cutting into your margins.
@@Movelectrics those batteries can sustain a higher discharge for a longer period. I am talking creeping uphill on 25% gradient at a slow shuffle speed and leaning into it and not cutting out. I weigh about 180 lbs for ref.
I'm trying to decide in the s18 or the v11 for my first wheel 🤔
Never tried the V11 but I did have the V12. All said, I think Inmotion have better build quality and good IP ratings. Of course compare the specs of both and see what would suit you best. Suspension is different on both also.
If you are in the EU, definitely see what prices you can get them for through my link below. You might be able to save 5% on it which is quite decent or they might be even on sale oneride.eu/?src=link&ref=G07CtZhxy8RGJOrf
@Movelectrics thank you sir, but I live in Canada. I might be able to save some money if I ship to the states, walk across the border and ride back through 😆
@@sages101 yes that would be a good range test 😂
what kind of power pads are these?
Hi James
You can get these from Oneride oneride.eu/?src=link&ref=G07CtZhxy8RGJOrf
No way id ride that thing. Hit a pothole and you're having a bad day.
Do you have an EUC yourself? Actually quite smooth over uneven surfaces because of the suspension. Like any PEV, potholes are something to look out for ⚡️
@@Movelectrics no i prefer 2 wheels lol I've got an M365 pro 2 scooter and i also have mountain bikes
Until you’ve tried an EUC, you can’t really judge them.
i had the s22 not a fan the s18 checks all the boxes very nimble great ride height suspension is very good the heavier more powerful wheels are too bulky for offroad