Iv been hunting for years but am just getting into archery this year...iv spoken to some of the guys from Lancaster archery a couple times now and each time they were very helpful and nice I give this company two thumbs up id give them more if I had more thumbs
I watched allot of your videos they really helped me get my first buck with my new bow, Thanks! Recently purchased the Carbon Defiant what an amazing bow, you guys had set everything up just perfect. I took down a really nice big bodied buck at 30 yards with one shot, I have it all on film. I recently started a channel check it out, episode 4. When I take the shot you will see I practiced bending at the hip from my stand pryer to get a more accurate shot instead of dropping my arm. Ok, when making the actual shot I forgot and dropped my arm hoping to remember next time. The good thing is I was still able to get it done, Thanks:).
@@whitefang7229 if you are up high in a tree stand then you want to bend at the waist..let your waist point the direction of your bow arm downword rather than use dropping your bow are to point your bow thirds the target...Its kinda hard to exsplain..i hope this helps you.
well the good news about shooting 10 yards at 25' is if you aim a little high on accident you will either spine it and its not going to run anywhere or you will miss completely and you can try again another day
That’s all great with decoy/target that won’t duck your arrow. Will not aiming higher to catch both lungs make it easier for the deer to duck completely under the shot. I think it would.
No mention of that animal dropping 6-12 inches (or more) when you release........"Aim for the Exit Hole"..... a fast bow with one pin sighted in at 20-25 Yards can consistently make FATAL shot placements from 5 to 40 yards with a little practice and minimal adjustment... If you shoot "Traditional Archery" there are a WHOLE different set of conditions that come into play...gap shooting, string walking, fixed crawl, and archers paradox can have a traditional archer aiming 6 inches below the belly at 10 yards... Your line of flight is correct for fatal shots, but if you don't allow for the deer reaction, (aim for the exit hole, typically lower than the entrance hole) you will shoot over or "spine" the animal.... Just sayin'
learned that the hard way one day last year. i shot over a deer at 8 yards, and one at 10 yards, while about 25 ft up a tree. the angle and both of them ducking when i shot, still upset about it.
I just made this rookie mistake this past weekend.. 3 TIMES! I didn't know to aim low. Didn't learn otherwise till the last day of the trip. Oh well. Live and learn!
Thats awesome! As an Archery Enthusiast/Bowhunter, and a media proffesional I really appreciate companies taking time and resources to produce content for their customers. It makes me like Lancaster Archery twice as much!
Really Nice demo but where were you aiming ? Did I miss you stating your point of aim .... heart, lungs etc. ? Did you change you point of aim or did you hold it consistent? Thanks, JC
They do! But actually...if you watch closely...that video segment shows my arrow sticking out over the camera, which means that the bow is not drawn. I'm just pointing the camera - which is attached to my stabilizer - to get the view. By the time I draw and shoot, they have moved.
Great video! Have y'all had very much success hunting out of these climbers? On average how high do you climb, 20ft? I see tons of reviews and product demo videos, but don't see hardly any successful hunting footage of people harvesting deer out of climbers. Would greatly appreciate any insight on the topic!
I have had nearly all of my success from climbers....including the one I'm using in this video. In PA, where we are located, we have lots of tulip poplars. These are the trees made for climbing stands - tall and straight with no low branches. I would say my average height for climbing is 20-25 feet. You don't see much TV footage with hunters using climbing stands because it's far easier to hang two stands in a tree - one for the hunter and one for the camera guy - than it is for two people to climb a tree, each using climbing stands. The logistics of using two climbers would be a real pain to work out, so TV crews almost always use hang-ons.
Lancaster Archery Supply gotcha! I'm gonna try and get some footage out of a climber. I've recently gotten into self filming hunts. Definitely seems like a challenge getting setup and getting footage out of a climber.
Well.....that's the other issue. Hauling a climbing stand AND your hunting and filming gear into the woods every time you hunt would be a pain. With a hang-on stand...you don't have to haul that in and out of the woods each time you go. For hunting, however, I will take a climber over a hang-on any day. That Summit Titan is THE most comfortable stand I've ever owned. I can sit all day in it with no problems. I have a bad back and hang-ons are rough for me.
my question is if your let's say 20' up and the deer is around 15 to 20 yard away would that deer still be the same distance away as if you were on the ground???
Justen Whitsel At that distance, the yardage would be very similar, although you would have to cut a couple yards off in aiming. and you'd have to aim much higher on the body to get your arrow thru the vitals.
I have been told, at steep angles, you have to aim below your intended point of impact. Otherwise you risk overshooting your target. Is that a false statement?
med1pilot1956 No, it's not true! That was useful back in the day but with the new technology of angle calculations made range finders, there is no need anymore. People figured since they were shootong 7 yards up in the tree, plus 10 yards out, it was a 17 yard shot. That was improper thinking, so they shot over the target a lot. If the deer is 10 yards from the tree, then it's a 10 yard shot; no matter the height you are shooting from. Modern range finders automatically calculate this.
Darran Greenup No......but you might have to aim a little high. By that I mean aiming at a 30 yard deer as it's 27 or so. Every bow is different, but you wouldn't change your sighr.
Just remember that your distance to the target that affects arrow drop is from ground level not where you are in the tree. If you use a range finder from the stand to mark reference distances or to range a game animal it will show a longer distance than if you ranged the same spot from the bottom of the tree. You can either get a range finder designed for bow hunting that will take into account the angle you are shooting or you can measure it out during practice time. measure the target from the ground and then from the height you are planning to hunt and figure out how much you need to compensate.
no, but arm holding bow should still be 90 degree angle like on ground, then bend at waist and maintain that angle and your anchor through your peep should still be correct.
I know these guys are legit but this video displays his abilities more so than a how-to-video. Would have been nice if he had explained how he made the adjustments from behind the bow at each distance/height.
There are explanations in the beginning, when the cartoon is superimposed on the target, and at 3:54. Both sections discuss that you have to change your aiming point to adjust to the different shot angles. So the archer is changing his aiming point to account for the different shot angles.
@@LancasterArcherySupply I appreciate the response. I'm new to bow hunting and shot from a stand this morning and your video did help confirm what I had observed. I was just referring to some basic tips like drawing level and then adjusting from your hip, which I didn't know. Didn't mean to sound overly critical.
How do pins come into play with all of these demo shots? If I am 20' up and the deer is 30yds...would I use my 30yd pin & place it behind his shoulder as if I where on level ground with it? Thank you in advance for answering and helping out!!!! :)
Depends on the speed of your bow. At 30 yards, your trajectory is flattening out, but, generally, at 20 feet up, you'd have to plan on hitting the deer a little higher than you would on flat ground, because your arrow is traveling at a down angle vs. flat. Watch the video again, and look at the graphic illustration. That answers your question about arrow placement.
Lancaster Archery Supply I understand the angles of the arrow hits based on the height of the stand & distance of the deer. What I need to understand is how I use my pin. Say I am 20' in the tree...if the deer is 10yds, do I place my 10 yd pin in the same spot as if I were in level ground. And if the deer is 20yds, do I place my 20 yd pin in the same. And so on with distances further out. Please excuse any ignorance in my question(s)...I am a novice and trying to learn. Side note: I am a customer of yours and hold you in high regard! Keep up the great work! Thank you!!!!!!!
The way you are asking the question refers directly to shot angles. You ask if you are 20 feet up and aiming at a deer 10 yards out, would you put your pin in the same spot as you would if on level ground? The answer is no, because of the shot angle. You would have to aim higher, because of the steep angle, to get your arrow through both lungs.
It's a great video, thanks for your efforts, but I think what D.P.T. is asking is not about arrow angle as much as distance. To rephrase his question, if a deer is 10, 20, or 30 yds out can I use the same pin as if I were on level ground(ie 10, 20, 30 yd pins)? People have told me that with today's high speed bows, you can pretty much use the same pin, with the exception being a very steep shot like your 20 foot up 10 yard out shot - where you aim with 10 yd pin, but hold a tad low. Is that correct?
Aubrey Keiser I’m a relatively new bow hunter my self but I would suggest a bow from the mission by Mathews series I have a mission hammer by Mathews and I love it! The mission by Mathews series is meant for youth and young archers because it has a smaller axel to axle brace hight and the poundage ranges my bows lightest draw weight is 17 pounds but I shoot somewhere between 35-40 pounds
GlenDel Full Rut... and yes it is available! www.lancasterarchery.com/catalog/product/view/id/13692/s/glendel-full-rut-3-d-deer-target-13692/category/7085/
A deer can jump the string no matter where you aim. For this video, we have to assume the deer won't jump the string, because aiming in anticipation of a deer jumping the string is a total guessing game. Some deer drop lower than others.....some drop and move away. It's nearly impossible to predict what a deer is going to do when they jump the string. The point is, deer don't always jump the string. In fact, if you only shoot at a relaxed deer, odds are it won't jump the string. In that case, you must aim high at a steep angle in order to get through both lungs. If you aim low at a steep angle, you can miss all the vitals. The rule of thumb is....the higher you go and the closer the deer gets, the higher on the body you must aim.
Lancaster Archery Supply I don’t believe it cause I shoot at targets from the stand and aim right on the spot I’m trying to hit and it hits high I’ve shot over deer because of aiming right on it aim a little lower is my opinion
Exactly Michael Johnson is right you got to bend at the waist I don’t know how this guy is getting those shots right on but it seems to work for this clown
Iv been hunting for years but am just getting into archery this year...iv spoken to some of the guys from Lancaster archery a couple times now and each time they were very helpful and nice I give this company two thumbs up id give them more if I had more thumbs
I’m brand new to archery hunting and am trying to gather as much information as I can. This was such a great video. Thank you for the knowledge!
I appreciate the ton of effort required to make this video. Great information. Thanks very much.
I watched allot of your videos they really helped me get my first buck with my new bow, Thanks! Recently purchased the Carbon Defiant what an amazing bow, you guys had set everything up just perfect. I took down a really nice big bodied buck at 30 yards with one shot, I have it all on film. I recently started a channel check it out, episode 4. When I take the shot you will see I practiced bending at the hip from my stand pryer to get a more accurate shot instead of dropping my arm. Ok, when making the actual shot I forgot and dropped my arm hoping to remember next time. The good thing is I was still able to get it done, Thanks:).
Great video for everyone to understand and practice ethical shots.
Thanks for the upload from England. Humane instructions at its best.🤔
Don't forget to bend at the waist...Don't drop your bow arm.
Michael T. Johnson nailed it. draw like you are on flat ground then bend at the waist.
So true! The difference is real!!!
yes the most important advice was left out....
If I may I’m brand new to hunting so still learning a lot what do you mean bend at the waist?
@@whitefang7229 if you are up high in a tree stand then you want to bend at the waist..let your waist point the direction of your bow arm downword rather than use dropping your bow are to point your bow thirds the target...Its kinda hard to exsplain..i hope this helps you.
well the good news about shooting 10 yards at 25' is if you aim a little high on accident you will either spine it and its not going to run anywhere or you will miss completely and you can try again another day
Excellent video. Thank you for the advice!
Thank you for those tips. Succinct. Excellent footage and explanation. I appreciate it.
Enjoyed your demo...good job!
That’s all great with decoy/target that won’t duck your arrow. Will not aiming higher to catch both lungs make it easier for the deer to duck completely under the shot. I think it would.
Awesome video. Thank you for making it.
Great information & informative.
Didn't even know I was watching a video from my town😂
great video! thanks!
Should have left the arrow in the target at each yardage and each tree stand height for proper teaching.
No mention of that animal dropping 6-12 inches (or more) when you release........"Aim for the Exit Hole"..... a fast bow with one pin sighted in at 20-25 Yards can consistently make FATAL shot placements from 5 to 40 yards with a little practice and minimal adjustment... If you shoot "Traditional Archery" there are a WHOLE different set of conditions that come into play...gap shooting, string walking, fixed crawl, and archers paradox can have a traditional archer aiming 6 inches below the belly at 10 yards... Your line of flight is correct for fatal shots, but if you don't allow for the deer reaction, (aim for the exit hole, typically lower than the entrance hole) you will shoot over or "spine" the animal.... Just sayin'
learned that the hard way one day last year. i shot over a deer at 8 yards, and one at 10 yards, while about 25 ft up a tree. the angle and both of them ducking when i shot, still upset about it.
mike042465 at that short shot distance ... I'd be checking on making my bow more silent ... they usually wont duck a shot up to 20 yards
I just made this rookie mistake this past weekend.. 3 TIMES! I didn't know to aim low. Didn't learn otherwise till the last day of the trip. Oh well. Live and learn!
Nice video! Do you guys produce these in-house!? Excellent work!
Thanks! And yes we do!
Thats awesome! As an Archery Enthusiast/Bowhunter, and a media proffesional I really appreciate companies taking time and resources to produce content for their customers. It makes me like Lancaster Archery twice as much!
Great video!
Really Nice demo but where were you aiming ? Did I miss you stating your point of aim .... heart, lungs etc. ? Did you change you point of aim or did you hold it consistent?
Thanks,
JC
Starting at about 1:24 we discuss aiming as the tree stand height changes.....
@@LancasterArcherySupply Thanks, that's probably when I went for the coffee !
The two people standing there @ 2:47 must have a lot of trust in you!!
They do! But actually...if you watch closely...that video segment shows my arrow sticking out over the camera, which means that the bow is not drawn. I'm just pointing the camera - which is attached to my stabilizer - to get the view. By the time I draw and shoot, they have moved.
At 30 yards, 25 ft high, bend at the waist, are you putting the 30 yard pin right where you want the arrow to go?
great help
Thanks
Great video! Have y'all had very much success hunting out of these climbers? On average how high do you climb, 20ft? I see tons of reviews and product demo videos, but don't see hardly any successful hunting footage of people harvesting deer out of climbers. Would greatly appreciate any insight on the topic!
I have had nearly all of my success from climbers....including the one I'm using in this video. In PA, where we are located, we have lots of tulip poplars. These are the trees made for climbing stands - tall and straight with no low branches. I would say my average height for climbing is 20-25 feet. You don't see much TV footage with hunters using climbing stands because it's far easier to hang two stands in a tree - one for the hunter and one for the camera guy - than it is for two people to climb a tree, each using climbing stands. The logistics of using two climbers would be a real pain to work out, so TV crews almost always use hang-ons.
Lancaster Archery Supply gotcha! I'm gonna try and get some footage out of a climber. I've recently gotten into self filming hunts. Definitely seems like a challenge getting setup and getting footage out of a climber.
Well.....that's the other issue. Hauling a climbing stand AND your hunting and filming gear into the woods every time you hunt would be a pain. With a hang-on stand...you don't have to haul that in and out of the woods each time you go. For hunting, however, I will take a climber over a hang-on any day. That Summit Titan is THE most comfortable stand I've ever owned. I can sit all day in it with no problems. I have a bad back and hang-ons are rough for me.
thank you
👍
Do you like those Easton arrows as much as I do?
How about this. When shooting deer from a tree. Aim at the bottom of the rib cage. 115 deer later I’m happy.
Especially if your 25 feet up and shooting at something 10 yards out.
I aim at bottom 1/3 of chest or even lower depends on deer. Better aim low. In Louisiana and Tennessee they drop hard.
Me too.
my question is if your let's say 20' up and the deer is around 15 to 20 yard away would that deer still be the same distance away as if you were on the ground???
Justen Whitsel At that distance, the yardage would be very similar, although you would have to cut a couple yards off in aiming. and you'd have to aim much higher on the body to get your arrow thru the vitals.
What’s ur draw weight bc that is going to change the angle a little bit
I have been told, at steep angles, you have to aim below your intended point of impact. Otherwise you risk overshooting your target. Is that a false statement?
med1pilot1956 No, it's not true! That was useful back in the day but with the new technology of angle calculations made range finders, there is no need anymore.
People figured since they were shootong 7 yards up in the tree, plus 10 yards out, it was a 17 yard shot. That was improper thinking, so they shot over the target a lot. If the deer is 10 yards from the tree, then it's a 10 yard shot; no matter the height you are shooting from. Modern range finders automatically calculate this.
Do have to change your sites when shooting from a tree stand vs on the ground
Darran Greenup No......but you might have to aim a little high. By that I mean aiming at a 30 yard deer as it's 27 or so. Every bow is different, but you wouldn't change your sighr.
Lancaster Archery Supply thanks great info
Just remember that your distance to the target that affects arrow drop is from ground level not where you are in the tree. If you use a range finder from the stand to mark reference distances or to range a game animal it will show a longer distance than if you ranged the same spot from the bottom of the tree. You can either get a range finder designed for bow hunting that will take into account the angle you are shooting or you can measure it out during practice time. measure the target from the ground and then from the height you are planning to hunt and figure out how much you need to compensate.
no, but arm holding bow should still be 90 degree angle like on ground, then bend at waist and maintain that angle and your anchor through your peep should still be correct.
Would this be true for a crossbow also.
What kind of tree stand is that! That is slick. I want one
Yes I would like this answered as well
Thanks
Roger
whoops Summit Titan climbing stand
THANKS
Summit Titan
I know these guys are legit but this video displays his abilities more so than a how-to-video. Would have been nice if he had explained how he made the adjustments from behind the bow at each distance/height.
There are explanations in the beginning, when the cartoon is superimposed on the target, and at 3:54. Both sections discuss that you have to change your aiming point to adjust to the different shot angles. So the archer is changing his aiming point to account for the different shot angles.
@@LancasterArcherySupply I appreciate the response. I'm new to bow hunting and shot from a stand this morning and your video did help confirm what I had observed. I was just referring to some basic tips like drawing level and then adjusting from your hip, which I didn't know. Didn't mean to sound overly critical.
How do pins come into play with all of these demo shots? If I am 20' up and the deer is 30yds...would I use my 30yd pin & place it behind his shoulder as if I where on level ground with it? Thank you in advance for answering and helping out!!!! :)
Depends on the speed of your bow. At 30 yards, your trajectory is flattening out, but, generally, at 20 feet up, you'd have to plan on hitting the deer a little higher than you would on flat ground, because your arrow is traveling at a down angle vs. flat. Watch the video again, and look at the graphic illustration. That answers your question about arrow placement.
Lancaster Archery Supply I understand the angles of the arrow hits based on the height of the stand & distance of the deer. What I need to understand is how I use my pin. Say I am 20' in the tree...if the deer is 10yds, do I place my 10 yd pin in the same spot as if I were in level ground. And if the deer is 20yds, do I place my 20 yd pin in the same. And so on with distances further out. Please excuse any ignorance in my question(s)...I am a novice and trying to learn. Side note: I am a customer of yours and hold you in high regard! Keep up the great work! Thank you!!!!!!!
The way you are asking the question refers directly to shot angles. You ask if you are 20 feet up and aiming at a deer 10 yards out, would you put your pin in the same spot as you would if on level ground? The answer is no, because of the shot angle. You would have to aim higher, because of the steep angle, to get your arrow through both lungs.
Lancaster Archery Supply Thank you kindly for your replies & education. I greatly appreciate it!
It's a great video, thanks for your efforts, but I think what D.P.T. is asking is not about arrow angle as much as distance. To rephrase his question, if a deer is 10, 20, or 30 yds out can I use the same pin as if I were on level ground(ie 10, 20, 30 yd pins)? People have told me that with today's high speed bows, you can pretty much use the same pin, with the exception being a very steep shot like your 20 foot up 10 yard out shot - where you aim with 10 yd pin, but hold a tad low. Is that correct?
I didnt know that Paul Adelstein was hunter
Hey , my 9th birthday is coming up on April 4 and I'm getting a compound bow from bluefield princeton heritage what kind do you think would be best
Aubrey Keiser I’m a relatively new bow hunter my self but I would suggest a bow from the mission by Mathews series I have a mission hammer by Mathews and I love it! The mission by Mathews series is meant for youth and young archers because it has a smaller axel to axle brace hight and the poundage ranges my bows lightest draw weight is 17 pounds but I shoot somewhere between 35-40 pounds
@@huntermcmahon7008 I got that same bow when I was 13 last year
Did he say lankster
What 3D target is this? Available for purchase?
GlenDel Full Rut... and yes it is available! www.lancasterarchery.com/catalog/product/view/id/13692/s/glendel-full-rut-3-d-deer-target-13692/category/7085/
What tree stand r u using I am looking for one but don't wanna break the bank
Summit Titan climbing stand
thought if it is a steep angle aim lower... higher the deer can jump it.
A deer can jump the string no matter where you aim. For this video, we have to assume the deer won't jump the string, because aiming in anticipation of a deer jumping the string is a total guessing game. Some deer drop lower than others.....some drop and move away. It's nearly impossible to predict what a deer is going to do when they jump the string. The point is, deer don't always jump the string. In fact, if you only shoot at a relaxed deer, odds are it won't jump the string. In that case, you must aim high at a steep angle in order to get through both lungs. If you aim low at a steep angle, you can miss all the vitals. The rule of thumb is....the higher you go and the closer the deer gets, the higher on the body you must aim.
Lancaster Archery Supply I don’t believe it cause I shoot at targets from the stand and aim right on the spot I’m trying to hit and it hits high I’ve shot over deer because of aiming right on it aim a little lower is my opinion
jacob cargene Well, your wrong. This isn’t an opinion. It’s a fact. You simply cannot deny physics.
@@jakecargene6048 aim high I'll miss
How to shoot at a wild boar from tree stand
Camera setup on the bow?
We used a Canon G7X with a HAWK Flexarm Phone Mount. www.lancasterarchery.com/hawk-flexarm-phone-mount.html
did he say lank ster? he lives there and he can't pronounce it right?
Brandon Powell Lancaster archery supply
What bow do you use?
In this video, it's the Mathews HTR No cam......but I shoot a Mathews Halon 32 now.
I love the Halon 32. Shooting a Switchback XT now, but that is my next bow.
Why does he keep saying lang-ster archery
That's how it's pronounced by us locals!
It's like asking why someone from pittsburgh says they're from picsburgh
this is horrible, explains nothing
Thought the same thing. Should have been titled "watch me shoot for a tree stand and stuff"
Hey Libertarian....treestand users aren’t scared of heights. Keep going hungry trying to walk up a deer. You’ll figure it out.
Exactly Michael Johnson is right you got to bend at the waist I don’t know how this guy is getting those shots right on but it seems to work for this clown
Real hunters don’t use tree stands. Those are for rookies.
Rude and that's coming from a 7 year old
Hmmmmm......? Try to challenge yourself and track and stalk from the ground.