How to Stud Your Snowmobile Track | Stud Boy Studs with Superlite Pro + Series Double Backers
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
- Mike goes step by step through the process of studding your snowmobile track using his 2022 Renegade X-RS 850. More specifically, he shows you exactly how to install studs using the Stud Boy Superlite Pro Series double+ backers.
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That is a great idea!! Didn't think of that. Forsure would work awesome 👌
Cheers,
Jesse
This is a great video.I just snochecked a 23' Renegade Adrenaline 900ace and I think I'm going to stud it this way with those studs and backers. You've given me the confidence to tackle this myself
Thanks Jason. It's not that difficult of a job. Just need time and some patience! Mike
Awesome just picked up a 2022 XRS putting studs in it this morning too I go with the Woody’s single ply
Great choice in studs! Awesome that you got your sled already! Hopefully the snow begins to fly soon :)
Cheers, Jesse
Kickstand is a great idea
It's brilliant! Mike
So happy to see your videos again. Love the frequency and content. Gets me excited for another snow season. I also sold my 21 XRS 850 renegade. But I went for Mach Z this season. Very excited to see what you guys do with your new sleds. Thx
Thanks Jeff! We are happy to be back in the recording studio and putting out some content for you! That Mach Z is gonna be awesome. Let's hope your sled arrives soon and winter shortly after! Cheers,
Jesse
Hey guys looking forward to the snow and content to come! I purchased the same backers and studs for my new Rene 900r coming in the next few months. Just a thought regarding the Woody's template you used. I noticed the pattern you used normally would have a single and a double for every window. You added the double but for that pattern to be balanced (left side vs right side) you need to have the single as well. If you look at the doubles alone they are spaced differently on the left side versus the right (not mirror image). Better to use a balanced doubles template and just alternate side to side as you go down the track if you don't want two doubles on the same window. (hope this made sense). You've obviously run these for 1000's of km and it hasn't been an issue for you but it might be putting undue stress on the track.
Hey man. Appreciate you reaching out. I never thought of that nor noticed that it wasn't balanced. You may definitely be correct. That was the only template I had and the only way to make the pattern I wanted work. And ya, my sled with that setup went for 13,000 kms before the track went, but. that was due to a lug ripping and not even a pull through/tear. Thanks for your insight tho - will keep that in mind when we install on our new sleds this season! Cheers, Jesse
@@sledaddicz No probs Jesse. Again didn't want to be an ahole pointing it out but thought it might be helpful. The Studboy template for single ply doubles is # 2562-00 for anyone doing this in the future. I have one on order and plan on the same pattern you use by alternating the template side to side every other window.
@northwash appreciate that man. At the time when I bought the studs at royal I asked for the studboy template but they only sold the woodys one lol. Cheers, Jesse
like em alot . need the blue for mine
They are awesome. Been rocking them for 5+ seasons and never had a single pull through or issue. Sucks that they don't sell blue! You could always get them powder coated. Cheers, Jesse
Just started watching the channel. Can’t wait to pick up a new sleep and powder season!
You should add links to everything you use in the description. Makes it easier for lazy people like me to see everything lol
Hey Nick! Thanks for tuning in! Hope you enjoy the content we create as the season comes closer. In terms of the links - absolutely. I will update the video descriptions with links to all the accessories. Cheers, Jesse
Links have been added to the description!
Nice job. Don't forget the tunnel protectors if they didn't come on the sled from the factory!!
Already added. Good point though! Definitely need tunnel protectors when studding ur track. Cheers, Jesse
Right on will be a good watch here!
Hi Mike,
Noticed you got away from the super lite backer plates. Any reason? Great job with the videos. You and Jesse are great ambassadors for the sport.
Hey Jake! Just trying something new. We still love the super lite backers but I buddy of ours had these for us to try out. We will be back with Studboy backers next season. Cheers, Mike
" Thanks Man great video , I'm Going to put some green ones on mine. ha
Awesome! Let me know if you have any questions. Cheers, Jesse
Hey guys. Question for you on tunnel protectors. You both have run studs on these 1.25 tracks for 1000's of kms so I wanted to see what you have done. There are two configurations of tunnel protectors. 1) is the back half of tunnel. Easy to install (15min) with simply two rivets. 2) full length of tunnel. requires dropping skid, lifting gas tank , drilling out rivets on existing preinstalled front center protector in order to attach front portion of full length protector (Mudbrats did video on this). This job as you can imagine takes hours. Apparently with the 1.25 track and the stud length you are using only the rear is required. Which have you had installed on your sleds?
The easy to install ones with the rivets are all we use. Hope that helps. Mike
Question for you guys about studs ?
I have a pre drilled track on a 2019 grand touring 900 ace non turbo all stock
Can I buy screw in studs and how many would you recommend ?
Just ride casual with my wife on the back
I deal with Quinn’s or royal
Thanks love your vids !
You can definitely use the screw in studs, however we use regular studs and do not have experience with those. For normal studs, just pop in 96 throughout the pre marked locations on the track. Thanks for watching the channel. Mike
Is that pattern from stud boys? I like that pattern compared to the singles as less likely for pull out. Wondering if since it’s not symmetrical on each track lug might cause excessive force.
Hey Bob. Yes it is! It has worked great for me. Ran that setup on a single track for 13,000 kms last season so you should have no worries with track reliability or excessive force. Cheers, Jesse
Looking at the stud height I'd say 1.325 in an 1 1/4 track, just guessing. Not sure how much room in those newer chassis but a 1.450 could be killer with 96, not sure they make those for a single ply deal. Still a strong believer in a 2 ply track if your gonna be hooking hard
That's typically what we run but the Mach is getting a tad more traction and will be getting 1.450. I know a few guys running 1.650 with no issues. I am starting with 96 and will likely go to 144. The Mach also comes stock with a 2 ply. Cheers, Mike
I always run 1.625 Studboy PowerPoint plus in my 1.25 tracks. There the same price as the 1.375s. No pull throughs no issues. Better traction and braking for sure.
Hey Mike are you still studding your tracks this way? I was going to use this method on my new 2024 900r turbo X ripper 1.25
Yep. We did Jesse's like this one except using Fast Trac studs and backers this year. I'm going a bit of a different route this year with the 900r. Cheers, Mike
thanks
Just caught your veido awsome I have a 2017 freeride 137 single ply 1.75 lugs dealers say can't stud with woodys so stud boy will work will 96 fit or do I need more and what size stud do you think will go on it awsome channel
Hey Robert. 96 is fine. The studboy size for a 1.75 lug is the 1.875. Cheers, Jesse
Great job! Scale of 1-10 (10 being best traction) how much traction is gained vs stock track? Do you see any difference in fresh powder?
Hey Jake! I would say a big fat 10. On the trail, having studs is night and day. You go from digging a hole with an unstudded track to immediate acceleration with studs. With machines with this much horsepower, not having studs means you won't get the acceleration you want. The difference studs make is on the trail and on ice. No difference in fresh powder. Cheers, Jesse
@@sledaddicz thank you Jesse. I will order some. Appreciate the insight.
Thank you for making this great video! I have an 850 with a single ply ice ripper 1.25" / 129" track. Was thinking of doing this same pattern with 96 to avoid more punctures in the single ply, but am getting mixed inputs suggesting that having more studs helps distribute the load more by taking pressure off each stud. I'd prefer to do less, but wondering if you have thoughts on which is best for preventing pull through?
You should do 96. 144 is unnecessary. Never had a stud pull through with that setup. Cheers, Jesse
@@sledaddicz Thank you!
Hey Mike I meant to ask if this is a single ply track? I'm confused as there are differing opinions on using double pro series lite double backers on a single ply track.....something to do with the size of the stud heads?
The 850 comes with a single ply track and we have been using the pro series doubles on them no problem. Tons of miles on them and no issues. The stud heads are a bit wider for single ply track studs but makes no difference with the pro series backers. Cheers, Mike
@Sledaddicz would you recommend for a 1.6 cobra on a 600r backcountry? Skidoo recommends the woodys singles, but i like the idea of the twin plastic backers.
What are you planning on your BCx?
Yes I would! Skidoo recommends woodys singles but I would definitely recommend this setup. The double backers are the safest bet and much less likely to pull through. Cheers, Jesse
Do you recommend the pattern you showed over the 2 singles in a V pattern? I have a 2020 xrs.
Yes! Doubles are better then singles as they are less likely to pull through. Cheers, Jesse
Why wouldn’t you put backers the other way? Scoop facing forward. That way it mite help in stopping . Just my thoughts.
Scoop is facing forwards. But I think I know what you mean! Thats a good point. I think about it more from a performance standpoint. It helps with acceleration and my braking has never been a problem with studs. Cheers, Jesse
Hey I’m looking at putting 96 doubles in my 137” ice ripper do you recommend two doubles side by side and skip a row or alternate one per channel like you did in this video Whats the benefit of each?
Great question. I'd opt for 1 per row as we did in this video. It distributes the pressure more evenly throughout the track and will provide more traction. Cheers, Mike
The thought with skipping every other row is that you get the same straight line traction but laterally the sled should be more fun since you can slide the arse end out with half the side to side stud support. I did this on my XCR 2-ply but I think I will stick to what Mike has done here on a single ply.
Great video! Did you have any pull throughs at the end of the season?
We've never had a single one pull through on any of our sleds in 10s of thousands of kms. Cheers, Mike
just got the super lite double backers,they say there is nuts in them(i dont see them),or are the backers self tapping by the studs? and what do you have your drill set at to set (torque set on your drill)i dont want to screw these up.they say once you start screwing the stud in you shouldnt stop.what do you think?sorry for all the questions,just want all the info i can get/to use to do the job the best i can,great video sir
There isn't a nut in them. Use an impact gun as its self threaded and seat it as you would with a normal stud so that its sucked into the track just a little bit. You can stop and start. Never had any issues doing that. Cheers, Mike
Assuming less stud pull outs with this set-up?
Correct. And with the double backers the chance of a pull out is basically impossible. 15,000 kms with these and never seen one pull out. Cheers, Jesse
@@sledaddicz thanks for the reply, first seeing this style, will try on my next sled 👍
They are the best. 4 seasons with them and I would never have it any other way! Cheers, Jesse
If I put 96 of those exact same studs on my 22 mach z would the 6 inch Bergstrom triple point carbides be enough or do I need the 8 inch?
I personally feel like 8" would be way too much carbide, especially on a 4 stroke that is already front end heavy. I would stick with 6" and you should be perfect. Cheers, Mike
@@sledaddicz thanks for the reply Mike. Enjoying your content.
Tunnel protectors?
Hey John. Yup! We also install skidoo tunnel protectors before we install studs. If you have a skidoo with a prestudded track it will come with tunnel protectors pre-installed. Cheers, Jesse
I always stud with 96 singles up the middle to per bar. Have you ever ran a similar pattern? If so how do they size up against the the doubles? TIA
Tip: I always use a crock pot for the soapy water works like a charm.
Yes, I used to stud 2 singles per row with the stock pre marked holes. The doubles provide more support, but in 20 years of riding, I've only ever had one stud pull out. I really don't see any difference or reason to go one way over another. Just my honest opinion. Some guys say doubles have more vibration but I haven't really noticed it nor do I think one offers better traction over the other. Hope this helps. Cheers, Mike
why did you punch out all the holes in your template if you were not going to use those holes .
Because we used different patterns on different sleds.
So Mike you guys went with 1 1/4 “ tracks hey?
Yep! I used to have a 1.5 but with the amount of trail riding we do it doesn't make sense. 1.25 is the best for trail and you sacrifice off trail. Cheers, Jesse
I wanna do the same pattern on my 2022 mxz xrs 850 etec but when I get to the start/finish both double backers will be on the same side. Not sure what to do?
Don't do that pattern. Do two singles per row. Cheers, Jesse
My sled came with 1.25 ice ripper so that’s why I want to go with the double backers
@@christ7405 do 1 double per row
Will it be alright that the last studs end up on the same side as the start
Yes. Won't make any difference - you would never notice. Just asthetically. Cheers, Jesse
We up her in Alberta ride in deep snow I don’t know y anyone would need to stud a sled
Over there forsure! But in Ontario unfortunately there is much more trail riding then off trail powder riding. Cheers, Jesse
@@sledaddicz thanks nice job like your videos keep on riding brother nothing better than outdoors thanks
Oh, you need them in Ontario!! As well as scratchers!! I ran scratchers with no studs every trip last year.