I had a B44 Shooting Star, it was made in 1969/70 so it is my belief that the B44 did stay in production a little longer than 67, the Shooting Star, with half chrome tank, looked so much nicer than the Victor in my view, all be it the same bike. I rebuilt the engine in 1977 new small end, which was a phosphor bronze plain bearing and neede reaming, balanced crank/ new mains and big end bearings. It ran very quiet which amazed many and was a joy to ride and own. Happy days during my RN engineering apprenticeship, a great workshop and on camp motorcycle club, happy days.
A regular guy that shows up to a local classic bike nite has a Rickman road racing bike with a cb750. Very nice beautiful bike. Thanks for the trip back in time. 😊
@@paulallen3557 '48 was a great year, wasn't it, Paul 😊. Greetings to you from the North West of England. Our memories are precious and at 75 we both have such a lot of wonderful ones. I just have to flip that little switch in my brain and I'm right back there 😁. Peter
Remember one of my mates had a Villiers 250cc D O T late 60s , very low geared but he used it as a road bike , I believe D O T stood for devoid of Trouble. Correct me if I'm wrong 😮
Nice collection of bikes. A couple that were new to me. I miss those days of simple bikes that didn't have an on-board computer and sensors everywhere. Thanks for sharing. Ride safe. Cheers
Greeves and DOT are short Leading link forks! Ernie Earles made a long link with the pivot point behind the wheel creating a very rigid unit for use on outfits! 😉
SEE my reply TRAILING LINK ???? GREAVES HAWKSTONE???? OVER 1 DAY AGO and subsequent replies agreeing with you and 1 other poster and mentioned Greeves using rubber in torsion over 7 hours ago to bikerdood then told him about Arrow/ leader front trailing link forks. Nice to see other people picking up on mistakes like this. My wife thinks I'm too pedantic, picking up on as she puts it, minutia. Nice to meet someone else who likes it to be correct.@@davidrenn6897
I'm sure the term scramble was coined by a commentator at the Wild And Wooly event many years before as it's a bit of a scramble. Purpose built factory machines became popular in the 50s, the sport later became known as Moto X.
Well if you watch my first video on 50s Scramblers I do explain the or Origins of the name, it dates back to the 1920s a remark made by a competitor in the first such event in Surrey
@@bikerdood1100 regardless of the origin etc to me the 65 onwards Scrambling, as I remember it, would be like a mx/enduro hybrid leaning more towards enduro. Just wondering what you think.
It's a real shame none of these companies survived to keep the Japanese honest. They were the ones that invented the markets! I have seen most of these but only in museums, public and private
I'll be a hornswoggled frog-jumping potlicking son of a gun. Dot is still around? Cycle World magazine a very long time ago tested and panned the Dot 125, and I never of it again.
Have a look side on at Arrow/Leader front fork.. The wheel spindle is behind the pivot point of the suspension link arm, this makes it Trailing. If the wheel spindle is in front of pivot point, as in Hawkston it is Leading link. See Aerial Arrow/Leader Specs. Sammy Miller has video on this.@@bikerdood1100
Sorry mate, but wrong on so many levels, you need to do some research, the basics are OK, but the detail is in need of attention. Just one example, Greeves Trailing link Forks. The works B50s were two stroke slayers, Banks, Nochol, Smith and Higgins, 1970/71 AMA Trans Am, 1 2 3 4 against the world's best 2 strokers and top riders. So many mistakes, please be more accurate.
B50 didn’t really have time No world titles after all So on the world stage I’m afraid not Not even with the titanuim frame Competitive yes but no longer a title challenge no matter how much we’d have liked it to be Two stroke slayer on a world stage unfortunately not quite There’s a big old world outside of Australia you know 😂 For example the Yamaha XS11 was successfully used racing in Australia but did bugger all everywhere else
He maybe made one mistake about the leading/trailing arms but the other stuff you said is pretty much a subjective opinion. And "please be more accurate"? He's making these videos for free. He doesn't owe you anything.
@@matthewcochran3325 well if you watch any video you will get the odd error But as usual people are all about that rather than what you get right of course But if ot makes em feel a bit more clever and important What should I stand in their way, maybe I’ll put a gaff in just too keep people happy 😂😂😂
I had a B44 Shooting Star, it was made in 1969/70 so it is my belief that the B44 did stay in production a little longer than 67, the Shooting Star, with half chrome tank, looked so much nicer than the Victor in my view, all be it the same bike. I rebuilt the engine in 1977 new small end, which was a phosphor bronze plain bearing and neede reaming, balanced crank/ new mains and big end bearings. It ran very quiet which amazed many and was a joy to ride and own. Happy days during my RN engineering apprenticeship, a great workshop and on camp motorcycle club, happy days.
H.M.S. Thunderer ?
You may notice it’s an error
It was introduced in 67
Hence the date 1970 on the video as a correction
It was replaced by the B50 in 1970
Geoff Smith, Dave Bickers and was it Alan Lampkin? a blast from the past,used to love watching them on Saturday afternoons.
Lampkin family as a whole were into all things off road
A regular guy that shows up to a local classic bike nite has a Rickman road racing bike with a cb750. Very nice beautiful bike. Thanks for the trip back in time. 😊
Lucky guy I think
Brilliant exposition of these machines as always BD. Worryingly this just seems like yesterday to me 🙄
Trust me it wasn’t
I'm 75 and agree it might be worrying but it remains a mighty good yesterday to have in one's life. Greetings from Eastern Kentucky!
@@paulallen3557 '48 was a great year, wasn't it, Paul 😊. Greetings to you from the North West of England. Our memories are precious and at 75 we both have such a lot of wonderful ones. I just have to flip that little switch in my brain and I'm right back there 😁. Peter
Thanks for your kind reply. You're absolutely right.
Very beautiful British
machines, many of which I didn't know yet!😎👍
Nice video and many thanks!🙂
Glad to introduce them to you
Thanks again bikerdood, I had a Cotton cavalier, 175 minerelli engine . Great wee bike
Nice
Remember one of my mates had a Villiers 250cc D O T late 60s , very low geared but he used it as a road bike , I believe D O T stood for devoid of Trouble. Correct me if I'm wrong 😮
It didn’t actually stand for that, they did use ii as an advertising tag however
Nice collection of bikes. A couple that were new to me. I miss those days of simple bikes that didn't have an on-board computer and sensors everywhere. Thanks for sharing. Ride safe. Cheers
Pity the world got so fussy an£ complex
Another banger buddy! I watched a documentary on Steve McQueen and his desert riding days and the Rickman Metisse was featured quite a lot.
Was one of his favourites
1960’s trials would be interesting and early 70’s
All in good time
@@bikerdood1100 John Banks 💪
Yes I'd like to see 50s/60s trials bikes too, please.
just come across these bikes, malanca, italian 50cc and up, couldnt believe they made a 2 cylinder 2 stroke 125cc with triple discs!
All very extravagant by today’s standards
Greeves and DOT are short Leading link forks! Ernie Earles made a long link with the pivot point behind the wheel creating a very rigid unit for use on outfits! 😉
Smart guy
Even got BMW using em
Correct! Trailing link forks have the link to pivot point in FRONT of wheel. Like Arrow and Leader.
@@davidfinnie121I know I'm correct! Greeves also innovated with rubber in torsion suspension in the front forks! 😉
SEE my reply TRAILING LINK ???? GREAVES HAWKSTONE???? OVER 1 DAY AGO and subsequent replies agreeing with you and 1 other poster and mentioned Greeves using rubber in torsion over 7 hours ago to bikerdood then told him about Arrow/ leader front trailing link forks. Nice to see other people picking up on mistakes like this. My wife thinks I'm too pedantic, picking up on as she puts it, minutia. Nice to meet someone else who likes it to be correct.@@davidrenn6897
Early Spanish trials bikes would be interesting, Montesa, Ossa, and of course Sammy Miller developed Bultaco.
True
Never heard of these bikes, no doubt the Japanese bikes came along had a large influence, most of these are old design.
Well wrong really
Companies such as Rickman had a large influence on the Japanese. They couldn’t build a chassis to save their lives
Very interesting. Was Scrambling a mix of modern day MX and Enduro racing? That's how I remember it, probably more Enduro.
I'm sure the term scramble was coined by a commentator at the Wild And Wooly event many years before as it's a bit of a scramble.
Purpose built factory machines became popular in the 50s, the sport later became known as Moto X.
Well if you watch my first video on 50s Scramblers I do explain the or Origins of the name, it dates back to the 1920s a remark made by a competitor in the first such event in Surrey
@@bikerdood1100 regardless of the origin etc to me the 65 onwards Scrambling, as I remember it, would be like a mx/enduro hybrid leaning more towards enduro. Just wondering what you think.
Well in so much as early Scramble tracks were less undulating than today although Hawstone was pretty hilly all the same
the rickman metisse mk5 cafe racer on their website is one of those if only i had the money bikes i would love to buy
Ahh if only
It's a real shame none of these companies survived to keep the Japanese honest. They were the ones that invented the markets! I have seen most of these but only in museums, public and private
Well some lasted quite some time
DOT still exist but the big players had a lot of problems to deal with
i had a rickman zudapp
Nice
Nice 👍
Did Greeves not use rubber in torsion as suspension, and units inside forks just dampers? Could be wrong.
They did on some machines, later bikes were more conventional
Trailing link front fork??? Greeves Hawkston????
Or leading 😂
I'll be a hornswoggled frog-jumping potlicking son of a gun. Dot is still around? Cycle World magazine a very long time ago tested and panned the Dot 125, and I never of it again.
Never went away completely
I remember the 125 in MCN in the late 80s or early 90s. Their main business has been pep arts for the old bikes
Was that a leading question?
Hilarious
Well mildly humerus perhaps
Aerial Leader and Arrows were only British bikes I can remember with Trailing link forks. @@bikerdood1100
@@davidfinnie121 don’t think they were
Sure they can be found on some smaller machines
Have a look side on at Arrow/Leader front fork.. The wheel spindle is behind the pivot point of the suspension link arm, this makes it Trailing. If the wheel spindle is in front of pivot point, as in Hawkston it is Leading link. See Aerial Arrow/Leader Specs. Sammy Miller has video on this.@@bikerdood1100
zundapp
Er ok
As I said they fitted all sorts in there
Sorry mate, but wrong on so many levels, you need to do some research, the basics are OK, but the detail is in need of attention. Just one example, Greeves Trailing link Forks. The works B50s were two stroke slayers, Banks, Nochol, Smith and Higgins, 1970/71 AMA Trans Am, 1 2 3 4 against the world's best 2 strokers and top riders. So many mistakes, please be more accurate.
B50 didn’t really have time
No world titles after all
So on the world stage I’m afraid not
Not even with the titanuim frame
Competitive yes but no longer a title challenge no matter how much we’d have liked it to be
Two stroke slayer on a world stage unfortunately not quite
There’s a big old world outside of Australia you know 😂
For example the Yamaha XS11 was successfully used racing in Australia but did bugger all everywhere else
Correct! Greeves shown: Leading link.
He maybe made one mistake about the leading/trailing arms but the other stuff you said is pretty much a subjective opinion. And "please be more accurate"? He's making these videos for free. He doesn't owe you anything.
@@matthewcochran3325 well if you watch any video you will get the odd error
But as usual people are all about that rather than what you get right of course
But if ot makes em feel a bit more clever and important
What should I stand in their way, maybe I’ll put a gaff in just too keep people happy 😂😂😂
As for wrong on many levels while I’m switching my Bull shit detector on that one
I can only quote historic facts as in print I’m afraid