Setting mine up over the next 3 days going 40gal breeder I always wanted one and thanks to Jason and Prime Time Aquatics I have the know how. Thank you guys for doing what you do.
3 years later I'm still watching this and getting ready to set up my first mbuna tank
Lol. Better to be over prepared than underprepared. Hope it goes well. Just starting my research 👍
@@ontarioaquatics9643 I do and it is doing well. I had a few issues with too many males at first but it's settled down now and doing good!
Excellent info! I’ve watched this video over and over so I can be ready for my own Mbuna tank.
After waiting a year to set up my 75 gal, I’m finally adding the fish now and they are amazing!!!
Thank you Jason for all the great info! !!!
Dude, this is the first “older” video I’ve watched of yours… looks like you’ve been making some gainz over the years man 💪😎
Just started a 55g Mbuna tank. Thanks for these videos. They are a big help. God Bless.
YES,my mature community mbuna tank has great suscess adding new tankmates of 1/1.5 "
So far these videos in this playlist is very informative. I to love the Mbuna Cichlids. I %100 agree Mbuna keeping isn't for everyone. Also I myself have had great success with them. I do have a smaller tank than the 1 you keep them in however they are thriving great. I even got LUCKY and have some other types people say don't really fit in. I would say for me its all about how I add new fish. Sometimes I take out the more aggressive fish and add any new one's then add back the others fish 30 mins or so after..
Thank you for the info Jason
Another great video from PTA... 👍🏻👍🏻
I am a beginner but my tank had been setup by a close friend..the more I’m watching I need more structure in my tank. Your video had been very helpful bc I’ve been having problems with one fish being a “bully” to one fish
I add at least 5 Mbunas at a the same time 👍. All 1.5 to 2 inches small
Thanks for the helpful advice re: auratus and demasoni.
Thanks for watching! I've seen auratus destroy more than one tank. :-)
They are one of my favorites because they are beautiful
Nice video! I’ve learned over the years to over stock, rearrange decor frequently to confuse territory, feed often in small portions. You will also have one or two that are a pain to the community! I have had to put them in time out! Mbunas are a fun species!
I keep vastly more decorations in the tank for hiding. Also dither fish and crayfish help round out the tank.
I started my mbuna tank 8 or 9 months ago, I wanted pretty fish that weren't aggressive (had problems with that before), and I didn't want them to grow too large for the tank. So I picked Yellow Lab, Rusty Cichlids and C.Afra Jalo Reef.
That's a combo I don't hear much about (although you guys at P.T.Aquatics talked about pairing rusties and labs), but it seems to be working great.
They should all stay under 4", and right now I have the tank over stocked, but they're breeding like crazy, and some of the fry always seem to survive.
I service the tank a couple times a week, but I am willing to do the work so long as the fish are doing well.
Thanks for all the great info from this channel, I feel like one of the reasons I am seeing success is all the info you guys give.
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Cichlids, will definitely give them a shot in the future but they seem like they can be stressful at first. Thanks for the tips.
They can be at first. They get easier the longer you keep them. : -)
Your videos are great. So full of information and incite. I always feel like I’ve learned something or received an informed opinion after watching. Thanks for taking the time to share
Very Nice Aquascape!
Awesome video full of Information. We have a 75 gallon mbuna tank of red zebras,demasoni, yellow labs, socolofi, rusty, and yellow tail acai. 30 er so mbuna with a sailfin pleco and synodontis catfish. Run a fluval fx4, emperor 400 hob and a green machine internal filtration. There's chasing here n there but when we notice we move around the rocks and plants and this seems to curb their behavior. 8.2 ph 78 degrees hard water with salt additive. Mechanical and biological in fx4, chemical in hob for easy maintenance.
Thanks setting up a tank today been cycling this for weeks . Been working on getting water perfect id like for them to breed but also variety fibally found some in my area im excited thanks for all the info very helpful i tried to find pics of the more aggresive ones you stated to not accidently mix those in 😂 wish me luck
Very nice Mbunas. I know it's wrong but I went ahead a crammed a dozen or so in a 29 gallon (mostly Zebras) w no problems. Lotsa slate and rockwork
I have a group growing out in a 23 bow front without any issues. Curious what they will do when full grown.
I've 100% this time agree with your video I have kept mbuna for years at present I don't keep any more I just keep shell dwellers now but I agree you one setup never works for another set up all these fish have different attitudes but you know what's funny I have found peacocks to be just as aggressive as mbuna at times in all peacock tank
Love your video it really helped give some background to mbuna. I have recently set up a african cichlid tank for my kids. I bought the fish from a pet store that has an aquarium section. My kids picked the fish due to the colours. I have a 200l tank with sand, lots of rocks and around 20 fish. I don't know the types of the fish just the colours. We have the blue and yellow fish you have and some orange mbuna. I was advised about the pH, nitrates and using algae flakes as food. This was as much as I was told and I was very nieve not realising how difficult this type of fish would be.
I have had 3 fish die over the last 6 weeks. Usually one seems to stop feeding and hangs out on the bottom of the tank then does. The tank seems fine then it starts again. I can't see any fish seem to bully the rest or see any sign of bloat. I now realise this was not the type of fish I should have started with but now I have 20 fish and I really Dnt want anymore of them to suffer then die. Can anyone please offer me some advice on how to set up a happy tank for these fish? I am not sure where else to turn. The original pet store Dnt seem to be very helpful now I have taken the fish home.
Thanks in advance if anyone helps x
If I were keeping 20 mbuna I would probably want at least a 55 gallon tank with some rock work. Once they have that they tend to settle in.
@@PrimeTimeAquatics thank you for your reply. I will see if I can return some of the bigger fish giving the smaller ones room to grow. X
Also just curious if you have a recommendation on a good source for mbuna types and info.
What size pump are u using to power those sponge filters?? Thanks
Hello, i just subscribed. Great video... at around the 5 minute mark in the tank you moved one of the mbuna to because he was having a hard time in the other aquarium... what type of rocks are you stacking in that tank? I hope you didnt mention that in the video and i missed it.
Can you please make one for Malawi peacocks as well? I watched many videos featuring your 75 and 125 housing same and the Livestream, it would be great to have a short version that goes over important things.
Lovely Mbuna aquarium, Jason. You have managed the aggression very well. I think the key with these fish is overcrowding for the reasons you describe. High levels of filtration are part and parcel with that strategy. Curious to know your favorite Mbuna out of the ones you are keeping?
Even though they’re not the highest quality, I think the Johanni’s are my favorite. 😀
Great video, thank you. I went ahead and purchased all of my Mbundu as babies even 1 demasoni and they have been together a few months now now doing well. I’m not sure what the future holds however at this moment I’m very happy they are doing well. Thanks for the info.
I started out with 4 baby mbuna and a cleaner fish in my 39 gallon tank have gotten little over around 3 inches long and getting ready to set up a 55 gallon for them with sand instead of gravel thought about getting a different cleaning fish is there any shrimp or so on that is compatible to put in with um and also now also have a baby now and growing well
Hi u got some baby's frome my black and blue i got 20 of them love this fish
Those are really cool rock structures! I'm very impressed with how peaceful your tanks are. Thank you for sharing your great video!
Love that rock. I have always wanted to get some but I can't wrap my head around spending that kinda money on rocks. DIG THE VID. STAY FUNKY
Will 3 yellow labs, and 3 electric blue johannis do for a 30 gallon?
Thanks for sharing, Happy YT
where did you get that rock formation. I like the black background. i have been debating universal rocks vs painted. moving up to a 125 gallon tank. Have taken many of your suggestions.
It’s actually three different rocks that I got from my local pet store. Painting is a lot cheaper, but the Universal Rocks looks cool!
Amazing ❤️
Can you tell me how you attached the plant to the top?
Watched your video on the setup of mbuna tank . It was very informative . My problem is I bought a 150 gallon tank with everything included . Now I know I'm way over my head . I have sand and holey honeycomb rock in the tank . I also have FX6 canister filter and a Seachem 110 filter . I have watched many videos that say put only males in the tank to keep down aggression . I am elderly and a novice . I would appreciate your thoughts and recommendations . Thank You .
A male only tank can be more difficult with mbuna because males and females can look so similar in some cases. I tend not to worry about it with mbuna. Our mbuna cichlid tanks are all mixed.
Hi Jason, what is the reasoning behind using sponge filters in combination with a HOB filter?
Watching your video . I have a 150 gallon tank ' would appreciate your pick of mbunas (same size) and what type of rock to use . What about filtration for the tank .
If I were setting up that tank I would go with two Seachem Tidal 110s or two Marineland PRO 450s. A combo of acei, yellow labs, rusty cichlids, saulosi, and red zebras would look cool. The acei get bigger but they aren't very aggressive.
love the info Question would i be wasting my time doing a waterfall in a Mbuna tank 220 gallon
I got 3 yellow labs 2 red jewels, 2 electric blue johannis 1 pleco in a 55. All get along just fine no issues
I tried putting a small cichlid in my tank i rearranged the rocks plants and everything and he got beat up so I gotta get full grown ones but I can’t seem to find 3 female 3 inch yellow labs but I’ll keep looking and ask my LFS to order some
Hi Jason. Beautiful fish and a lovely hardscape.
Off topic but I have a question for you.
What should be the ideal gap between the top of a tank and the tank above it? Is 6 inches good enough for regular maintenance or should it be 9 inches?
In the process of planning a fish room and super inspired by your videos
For me it depends on the size of the tank because larger tanks require larger decorations. I shoot for 10 - 12" generally. Great question!
Prime Time Aquatics thanks Jason. Very thoughtful about the decorations. But 12 inches is a luxury I cannot afford. Planning to stack 3 tanks vertically.
Don’t want the topmost tank to be too high, would defeat the purpose.
I want to enjoy the fishes
Hi, im a new subscriber and planning to have my first fish tank. Are there other fish species than can be put in a tank together with these cichlids?. Great video and very informative video as always!
Great question and welcome to the hobby! I would say if you are newer to the hobby I would just sick with Mbuna - if I were new and stocking a tank with these fish I might start with Yellow Labs, Rusty Cichlids, Pseudotropheus acei and maybe some Pseudotropheus saulosi. I would stay away from auratus, Bumble Bee cichlids, demasoni, and kenyi. They are awesome, but can be a little more aggressive. Good luck!
Very informative. Please help me out with my stock. I am planning to get a 50g or 55g and want to so mbuna. Which type are for beginners and how many? I keep reading to overstock them? Nd also heard to get crushed coral substrate to keep ph high
Sounds like you are in the right track - pseudotropheus saulosi, yellow labs and rusty cichlids are all good options. In a 55 gallon - maybe 12-15 in total?
Hi, I love your work. I have a 55 gal, what would be your recommend amount of mbunas to put in it. I want to overstock. And should I put them in all at once or every week
It might be better to add them over the courses of weeks if the tank is new and just recently cycled. In a 55 gallon you could probably get to a max of 14-18?
@@PrimeTimeAquatics thank you for the guide. I had fish in it but decided to make some changes I replaced the rocks with a cichlid substrate and I took out about 80% of the water. Again thank you
Subbed ! Question ...can I keep the yellow labs with electric blue acara ?
I’ve seen people do it. I don’t only because the chances of the yellow labs being a little too much for the acara later on are too high for me.
Could you give a good list of colorful mbunas with M:F ratio for a 75? I fell in love with the recommendations you gave in the 40 gallon video, but I want to start fresh with a 75.
I'm a big fan of Yellow Labs, Saulosi, Rusty Cichlids, Socolofi, and Red Zebras in a 75 gallon - you'll get blues, yellow, purple, orange - all the colors! You could do 1 male for each with 4 females!
Hey guys im a newby to mbunas & really like them & other cichlids. But I have a 40g br & wonder how many of the smaller mbunas can i add to the 40g brdr... tyvm
At 5 minutes into the video, what kind of rocks are the cliff looking white rocks that are stacked?
Jason, I love your Cichlid tanks! I've been thinking of trying Cichlids, but I always heard they were agressive. I've had aquariums for 30+ years. Could you please list the names of the Cichlids you have in your tank so I can research them further? Thanks!
They really are fun to keep. 🙂 In that tank I have yellow labs, johanni, peusdotropheus acei, metriclima elongotus, bumble bee female, red zebra, kenyi, blotched red zebra, blue dolphin and a couple bristle nose plecos.
I've watched this video like 6 times now lol. I wanted to get your thoughts on the best temperature to keep my mbunas at. 79-80 is where mine are at currently and I had them at 78 and they did seem a bit more aggressive but they seem to be a bit more skiddish at 80 if that makes any sense lol. Appreciate the other tips on this video they have really helped. I now have a 125gal with mbunas and a 75gal with about 25 white lab fry and more to come. Of course if I can catch the females holding lol.
@@PrimeTimeAquatics. Ok so good to hear reinforcement on range. It's all over the place when you Google search it. Thank you very much and I hope we can make it to Aquashella to see you guys again!
I had a peaceful tank and introduced two blue dolphins. It was all good till one of them got bigger and then he became a bully. He bullied my peaceful acei (favorite mbuna) so bad that I wanted to squeeze him to death so I traded him (the dolphin) to my friend for two yellow labs. I Quarantined the labs but suddenly my Acei was bullying everything in site as bad as the dolphin was so I crossed my fingers even though my buddies tank and fish are well kept and put the labs in the community tank and the Acei in the 55 gallon Q tank. It worked out so well that I decided to buy another Q tank and let the Acei keep the 55 gallon, got two females for him and Im sure he thinks Life's never been so good. Thanks for the inspiring and informational videos.
Nice story - it's all about finding balance. Sounds like you were able to do that!
Need advice - getting back into the hobby, how many should I add for the very first time? All of them? Little by little? I have a 75g, currently cycling. I want to get them small, just not sure how many right off the bat. Thanks for any help!
Starting with a group of 1-2" mbuna usually works out best. Once the tank is well-cycled with a decent amount of beneficial bacteria, I generally start with at least 15 and wait a couple weeks to make sure the microbes are taking care of the bio-load and add another 10 or so. Keep in mind I always start with cycled media, so this is easy for me to do.
Prime Time Aquatics Perfect thanks, that’s what I was kind of thinking but this gives me a good base to work with. Thank you so much for your response!
Hi, great video. I'm moving to a African chiclid setup. I want to do mbuna.
I have a 4 ft roughly 180 litres.
I love the look of this tank. The colours are great. Can you help me out with a list of the fish you have in this tank and a rough stocking capacity. Thanks in advance 🤙
I am new in this fish hobby. I have a 15 gallon tank with a dozen 1 inch juvenile auratus
Jesse Jaway Those are some of the meanest mbuna out there! You’ll probably want to move them out quick before you wind up with one! 😀
I have found all your videos so helpful. Im limited due to space but what would be better for yellow labs and maingano's... A 40 breeder or a 55? I know the 40 actually has more surface space while the 55 is taller. Which one do you think would be better? And how many can I stock in it? And last question... If they're juveniles, how long can I keep them in the tank before having to upgrade them to a larger tank? Thank you so much!
I think either one is a solid option for the fish you want to stock. Just depends on how much you want to spend and how much wall space you want to dedicate. You could probably go with a total of 10-12 fish.
@@PrimeTimeAquatics well wall space.... We could easily fit a 55 or a 40. The problem was 75g is too heavy. So 10-12 yellow labs and maingano's... All females would be safe? Or would there be aggression between them?
@@PrimeTimeAquatics are those two types of fish more bottom or top swimmers? I think with the 40... I'll have more ability to aqua scape. The 55 seems tight and narrow. But visually looks nice because it's longer. What do you think? Thank you again for always being an inspiration with this hobby.
Okay so I have a choice now of a 55g or 65g.... To stock with yellow labs and maingano's. The 40 breeder is out. 55 is narrow and 4ft long... Or the 3 foot 65g with 18 inches of depth? What's your opinion? Thank you so much and I'm sorry for all the questions.
What type of filtration do you have in the 75 gallon tank
I have two sponge filters and a HOB. That combo has been working great!
Hi. Can you keep different species of Mbuna's together, or should you keep to one? So should you just have Cynotilapia with only Cynotilapia, or could you have them say with Petrotilapia? If you can mix are there ones that go better together or shouldn't go together? Sorry for the long question
Yes you can mix them - my favorite combo for people newer to mbuna are - yellow labs, saulosi, acei, and rusty cichlids.
I am pretty sure I have mbunas. Got themreally young from the local Petland store. Yellow ones ,orange, blue w/blk strips, blk/yello/brown horizontal strips, purple w/yellow fins, and one albino(not sure if it's mubuna as he is smaller and a loner) Anyway, I have them in a small 250 gal. back yard pond and kept them alive through a very cold winter this past year here in NW Fl. ($$$$$ on electric bill -but I done it!) Started off with 10, now have like 50! Now they are producing so many fry I don't know what I am gonna do! But all the babies are blue ones and the yel/blk/bro/striped ones.
Just for those that might like to know this, I raised 5 gold fish along with them! They got along with them great, but did recently give them away.
QUESTION:
So how can I figure out if I have female or males in the yellow, orange, purple, and albino/white ones? They are between 4-5". Any help here will be greatly appreciated!
GREAT VIDEO!
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Yep, sounds like you probably got a mix of yellow labs, red zebra, and kenyi at least. Yellow labs and red zebra males and females look very similar - my males for both just have a little better color and are bigger. If you have Kenyi, the males turn bright yellow and the females stay blue. Those are the most common. The brown may be bumble bee cichlids. The babies could very well be hybrids though and it's hard to be certain the parents were pure breed too since they usually just sell them as "mixed Africans". Congrats on the babies. O, and the females are usually the ones with a mouth full of fry!
Hey jayson quick question
Hi! What's the size of the biggest acei? And biggest yellow?
Is it normal, that my mbunas are max 4 inches in a 6 six months of keeping them? When i bought them they were about 2 inches.
Acei can get pretty big. My largest right now is around 6". My largest yellow lab is closer to 4.5". Ya, they usually grow quick!
Hi Jason. I have 5 yellow labs ( young ones 2" avg ) in a 44 gal. I am hoping they will breed at some point when they get bigger. I also like the yellow tail acei. Would be ok to add a few of them ? 4-6 ? Thanks.
I probably wouldn’t add the Acei - they are one of the larger mbuna and can reach 6-7”.
@@PrimeTimeAquatics Ok good to know. I won’t add them. Maybe I’ll just go with the Yellow Labs. Or if there are a few other types you can recommend? Thanks for taking the time to get back to me. 👍👍
At the bigining of the video there is a yellow fish with black spots in it, what is the name?? Someone gave me a few but I have not found the name and I think it's not an OB, please advise on the mane
So I am doing a lot of research on cichlids what ones would you suggest to start out as a beginner since these are the more aggressive and tricky?
Depends on the size tank. Some of the easier ones are Apistos, Bolivian Rams, Kribensis, Keyhole Cichlids, and Curviceps provided you have the right size tank and average water parameters. They can be so much fun!
Just thinking about getting a mbuna Cichlid tank going and I didn’t know that that was the red zebra. Do you have a video where you identify mbunas by sight? I looked but there’s so many videos. Where I buy cichlids, they sell them as assorted.
I have a species profile on Acei, Red Zebra and Saulosi - I can't remember if I have done others?
Great job on your tanks. I have a 55 mbuna and peacock tank a 45 tank I use for small fry from my breading pairs. Going to add a 200 and a 150 tank soon for more mbuna and peacocks. Since I've gotten back into it I have been very lucky getting breading pairs established now I am consistent with getting on average 30 fry from each female which now creates it's own problem of trying to sell the fry or trade them for store credit. Any pointers or tips are welcome.
We’re lucky that we have local clubs that hold auctions and swaps. That’s how we move our fish
What about yellow labs in a 75 gallon? I have heard they have a bit of aggression but are more on the peaceful side? I have a good bit of experience on dither fish and catfish aswell as shrimps. I’d love to get into the world of cichlids and I dosent seem to hard as long as I do my homework.
I have some fry from some of The adults in a different tank, they are about 3months old in this moment and about 2cm big, i have realy Wonder when i can put them back to The adult tank,? How big do they need to be,,? Hope to get a answer. Best regards from sweden, keep up The awsome videos.
Very cool that you got fry! I try to wait until they are big enough that they won't get eaten. I've found it easier to add smaller juveniles to established mbuna tanks because the adults often don't see them as a threat.
Have you ever tried keeping them with peacocks? I think I will add a ob peacock to my mbuna tank.
OBs have worked well with mbuna. They tend to be fairly aggressive. Less aggressive mbuna like yellow labs, rusty cichlids and saulosi have also worked for me as well. It doesn't always work, and I always recommend a back up plan. :-)
Hi what kind of sand do you used?
In some tanks I use pool filter sand (mbuna tank and a few others), but in many I also use Nat Geo sand, which I prefer.
I'm looking to start up a 30 gallon dwarf mbuna tank with maybe 8 or so of them. Any recommendation on specific species of the dwarf variety?
That can be a tough set-up. I haven't had much long-term success with mbuna in anything less than a 40 breeder.
Thanks Jason, do you think fewer dwarf mbuna could work? Maybe 4-6? Or do you view it as a difficult setup regardless for a 30 gallon tank?
Hi, i realise i’m like 3 years too late… But i have a 30G that is all set up as a community tank but i wanna change. it’s 3 foot long. I wanna get 6/8 Mbunas, Yellow Labs, Zebras, Jonannii, Saulosi, Tangerine, Pindani etc, all juveniles, and then i’m moving out soon and wanna get a 55G 4 foot tank in my new house as it will be my own and not parents so more space and then when that tank is cycled move then over and get another 10 or so mbunas like Rustys and Acei and then a few more so as to not ruin the cycle, what are your thoughts on this?
think for the few months i could deal with 6/8 to see if i get on with them before spending lots of a bigger tank and such x
Generally speaking it's really hard to have success with mbuna in anything less than a 40B or 33 long. Acei get really big and even a 75 gallon looks a little small for them at times. I might wait for the 55 gallon?
1. Over stock
2 filter well
3 low protein diet
4 lots of rock
5 dont nee a deep tank as they often stay in the rock area lower down
6 when quarantining your fish dont put any rocks or decor in (this gives them a territory to fight over )
Build up your rocks so they go up to at least half the depth of the tank. You can keep more because they will spread out. Make sure there are loads of caves.
@@jeremyboughtono2 true I went from just a bottom layer rocks with some crevices, now have them stacked multi-layered halfway up and the fish are far more active
I got into !African cichlids based on their beauty. I will only have a 38gallon tank. How long before they are too big?
If they are mbuna it doesn't take long before a few of the alpha fish start dominating.
Question how can you get Kennyi with electric yellow unfortunately I tried and my Kennyi killed my electric yellow cichlid
I started them together when they were young. That may have helped.
I want Labidochromis caeruleus (Yellow Lab) mbunas in a 55 gallon tank with a black substrate, and black background. I'd like to breed them! Stole this idea from John at KG Tropical
I used to have a firemouth cichlid. Then I decided to add a smaller one, hoping they would form a pair. The new one got killed in about an hour, before I was able to realise it wasn't just some chasing around.
Is 27 mbuna that are 1.5-2 inches size too many for a 75 gallon?
Probably not - that might be about the limit I would have in a 75 gallon. If they are all acei or bumble bees (larger mbuna) you might have to thin it out once they get larger.
can socolofi, red zebra and yellow labs share a tank? I'm asking because I'm thinking about switching them to the 55 gallon and what I have is 6 yellow labs 4 red zebras, and 4 socolofis. I want to see if this is possible just in case.
I think that combo could work out well. I have all three in my 75 gallon without any issues.
Hello Jason I NEED HELP my Mbuna cichlids have red at the base of pectoral fins I don’t know why and I don’t know what to do I just know that it wasn’t always like that
Could be due to fighting or possibly fin rot? If it gets worse you could try something like Erythromycin?
@@PrimeTimeAquaticsthank you for taking the time to answer my question. Is there any way I can send you a photo of my fish? Just want to get to the bottom of it. Thank you, again
What’s the name of that gray with yellowtail/fins fish ?
I think you are talking about the Pseudotropheus acei. They actually have a nice deep purple. Very cool fish!
Had 2 3-inch Mbuna with my 6inch Dempsey+ 5 bluegill (wild) and 1 baby LM Bass. Lasted 2 months then the bass tried to eat my cichlids.
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Do you think a 50 gallon lowboy 2ft by 4ft 10in tall would work for mbuna
I have a 250 gallon cichlid tank and a 500 gallon saltwater