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Champions of Midgard: The Dark Mountains and Valhalla (Grey Fox Games) Review by Man Vs Meeple
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- čas přidán 6. 08. 2017
- Champions of Midgard The Expansions: The Dark Mountains and Valhalla Review by Man Vs Meeple
2-5 Players
60-120 Minutes
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I know this is an old video but man, this is BY FAR the best and most well explained review video about these expansions (and game). I love the format. Very simple, very stratight to the point but very easy to understand, even though I never even played the original game.
Great review! Althou it sounded a bit like you were trying to sell the game more than reviewing it. Just bashing us with a list of good stuff to the point that it sounded unbelievably good! As a backer & fan of the game i like to hear that you love the expansions. But were there really nothing that you felt missing, lacking, wished more off? Are they both 10/10 expansions? :)
Hard to say they are both 10/10 because a 10/10 would resolve missing pieces and individually they'd both be missing pieces from the other. Valhalla definitely resolves some missing element. When your units die in the bass game it just feels empty. Valhalla fixes that and as a good amount more depth without too much rules overhead. The leadership dice are brilliant. The other new dice are interesting but not ground breaking. 9.5/10 expansion. Essential to take a good game a great game. The 0.5 it's missing is in dark mountain imo (mostly monster variety)
Dark mountains adds more. More players (though 5 has a tad too much downtime but its not terrible), more options on map, slightly more replayability from new cards (particularly spicing up the monsters), another dice type. Just more. None of the more is much more interesting than the existing components of the game, and it all reuses existing mechanics. That said, its nice to have more and it maintains balance and almost no additional rule overhead. It's like a 7.5/10 expansion. Improves the game overall with very little downside, but by no means essential.
I play with both expansions every single time. Valhalla does add some rules overhead but it's definitely worth it to increase the game depth and mitigate luck. Dark mountain isn't essential, but because it adds very little rules its easy to include and is just nice. Maybe if I had no table space I'd remove dark mountain but there's really no reason not to add it otherwise
Just a technical note (I work in tv so I notice these things), looks like you uploaded a very interlaced version of this video (or maybe 1 camera was shooting interlaced) especially at 4:22. It is somewhat distracting. I would shoot/render/export your videos at progressive frame rates in the future. BTW I do really enjoy your content, just wanted to give some constructive criticism.
I noticed that too - saw it in one of the recent other vids as well...
These expansions look awesome. I really hope that player mat becomes available, it looks so good.
nothing on the grey fox website. kick starter only apparently
Are these expansions being released or have been released at the same time? If so, seems like the publishers would just release one box with the 2 expansions together. It would save on packaging and shipping. Might be cheaper overall for everyone. Never played the game, but it always looked cool.
Looks good, the original looked a bit too light. Too bad it's 100 euro for the whole set now ;). Have the same problem with Village
How easy is it to take out the cards from Valhalla that require The Dark Mountains (if I were to only get Valhalla)?
Pretty easy, there's a symbol on the cards.
This or Raiders of the North Sea and its upcoming expansions? Raiders for me I think.
How many Workers do you start with in a 5 player game?
4 still
Some regard this as Bloor Rage's little brother but I hope these expansions elevate it.
Hmm I think you need to use a different encoding format or something for the camera pointing at Jeremy. Either in the camera or in the software you use to editing you videos. I don't really know what you need to do, but the interlacing lines is really distracting.
Elan I noticed the same thing. Funny that David is clear on camera all the way through.
On topic: nice review. I'm anxiously awaiting my Kickstarter pledge for this, including that superb play mat.
For anyone who hasn't purchased CoM yet...the base game is great. The possibility of losing warriors you've spent time and resources recruiting and then getting nothing in return is a part of the game. It's about Vikings, for cryin' out loud. The game already includes a mitigation mechanism (using a favor token) to re-roll. The Valhalla expansion is there to appease snowflakes who think it's terribly unfair to ever have anything go badly against them. That said, the expansions are both very good for other reasons than trying to prevent a snowflake gamer from rage quitting at a bad die roll.
Games have luck and there is risk management in most games. Yes there are favor tokens, but 1. Using them essentially costs you glory (victory points) and 2. I've seen someone blow through 4 favor and STILL fail to get more than 1 hit on their die rolls. It is possible to play a strategically brilliant game of base CoM and lose to bad luck. That can leave a sour taste in someone's mouth. That's really difficult in Valhalla as you could simply pivot towards gaining tokens to fight epic monsters instead. Are they a snowflake if they get upset at bad luck? Maybe. But it's genuinely a better game when such things are mitigated. It makes the game more strategic and less luck based, while still retaining the need for risk management (now both way too. I've seen people strategically playing to ensure their units DO die in battle as it suited heir strategy)
Paid review?