@@fluffy-fluffy5996 he slammed down 80 meters short of the runway threshold, what part of below the glideslope didn’t you get? He ignored the PAPI, he ignored the warnings from the FO. It wasn’t his first flight in the 737 but I assume it was his last.
The FO was alert and smart enough to warn the captain. What else could he do. He was only 25 but came out of this better than the captain, who let him and all on board down; as of course more pertinently did the airline. Training costs money they didn't want to spend. Should have been better mandated.
San Andres is off the northern coast of Panama, I used to fly out of Howard AFB west of Panama city. Always lots of weather in the Caribbean basin. Great video!
Caribbean storm weather is something else. I remember a night flight in a DC-8 from JFK to Caracas forty-five years ago, through a lightning storm. Gulp.
@@elcastorgrande yeah, always something going on off the coast, near Maracaibo. From the Yucatan all the way to northern Brazil from around Feb-Nov. Constant tropical activity, every day, all the time.
@@MJA5 you're kidding ; it just sounds so surreal; i live in Canada. people go to work and fishing and flying in planes.. everything is just a lot "quieter in Nov-Feb" in Canada anyway
I always wondered if Allec afraid of flying. I am definitely afraid of flying but I can't stop watching these well put together videos. It feels like I'm watching a short film
I remember this fondly. This happened literally the day before I started a new school year. I was preparing for the first day of school and then I learned of this tragedy. Even to this day, I am still impressed that almost everybody survived, and when I brought it up in social studies class at the start of the school year, the teacher was impressed with the high survival rate, too. My heart goes out to the family and friends of the two people who lost their lives.
Baffling! Appalling, in fact. This guy wasn't fit to be a captain for a larger aircraft like a 737, let alone ANY aircraft, IMO. Shame 2 people had to die because of his, and the companies, negligence.
Yes, everything was fine because the autopilot was engaged. Once the Captain started flying manually, that’s when things went wrong. He should certainly have been sacked for such incompetence.
@@arturo468 actually, no, because he dialed in the wrong sink rate, which the autopilot faithfully obeyed. He would have crashed anyway. But yes, he should suffer consequences for the failure. Of course, the executives who said abbreviated training was adequate should have been tried for gross negligence.
@@rongants6082 It's unfortunate but death happens; and so do accidents. Everyone makes mistakes and it's even easier to when you are trained incorrectly. He was doing things the way he was trained to! If I die in a car accident that is someone else's fault, I don't want the driver to lose his license forever! Come on now. It's not like it was a blatant mistake.
I don't think that I can blame the pilots as it sounds like they were not properly trained, however I can and do blame the airline that put them in that cockpit knowing they had given them very little time to properly train and learn the 737. So sorry to learn that two people died from their injuries received in this accident. I'm surprised the outcome wasn't a lot worse. Thank you for this video.
"Who's gonna fly the new 737's? Should we get experienced pilots?" "Nah, we'll just take the turboprop guys, give 'em a few weeks of training and it'll be just fine."
If you are wondering about AIRES (or LAN Colombia) after this, it becomes part of LATAM Group under the name "LATAM Colombia" along with LATAM Brasil (formerly TAM) and LATAM Chile (formerly LAN Chile) in 2012.
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Used to fly lots of Dash 8’s out of DCA. The pilots loved them because the computer wasn’t flying the airplane, they were. Always felt very safe, more safe than in a 737. I laughed when passengers weren’t used to all the clunks and clicks of a normal Dash 8. Watching them jump when the gear dropped down hard right next to their window.
Puzzling that the investigators thought it relevant that the approach glide had been too steep. Whether it was 3 degrees or 5, it brought the flight to "minimums" with the runway in sight. The Captain had all his instruments, plus a synthetic voice calling out his altitude, plus a colleague who said to pull up. He was clearly to blame for failing to do so. That's unless there was something like a wind shear; a sudden down-draft that prevented pull-up. But the report of the investigators didn't mention that. Incidentally, what's the protocol: if a junior sees a danger soon enough to point it out twice, might he not take action himself and over-ride the senior pilot? That might place his career at risk, but in this case it would have prevented the crash. Unless there was that wind-shear.
It makes a big difference. On a steep approach you have less time to react, much more energy to manage and much lower margin for error. Please don’t act like you know more than the investigators. You don’t.
Great video. Rip to the 2 passengers. Feel sorry for everyone involved including the pilot. At first it seemed like they were recklessly flying the plane but the truth is they flew the best they knew with with their training and experience.
The captain was unsure of what the PAPI Lights were indicating? They only convey four possible messages: You’re too high. You’re too low. You’re on the proper path. You need to go around or find another method of determining your glide slope. There is really no ambiguity. Even in the event of a malfunction of the PAPI Lights they’re telling you to go around or find some other method of determining your approach angle.
It’s not that simple. There are many formats of visual slope indicator which indicate slope in different ways. Maybe this was one of the less logical ones. But the big point is that poorly maintained PAPIs are often ambiguous as they can have faded colour on the red or a misaligned cell. Both is these can cause confusion. In short, don’t assume that because PAPI is designed to work as you describe that that’s an absolute. It isn’t. This is the kind of error that sim pilots make.
Absolutely amazing that their were only 2 deaths involved and I mean no disrespect to the 2 lost souls, considering how destroyed the aircraft ended up. First time I found out "the black hole" is another item these men and women have to contend with. Difficult job under the best circumstances, incredibly hard when things go wrong.
Exactly how did I know they would be in trouble because the runway was muddy? Well, I suppose if all had turned out well, we wouldn’t be watching this video because it never would have been made.😑😁
@@Recon3Y3z yeah I know what part of the video you were referring to. He says he doesn't know what the lights indicated because he wasn't looking at them, not because he didn't understand the concept of how PAPI lights work.
Those pilots were set up to fail. Like taking someone from a piper cub and expecting them to fly a B17 with no training. I feel so bad for those pilots and passagers.
Fixated on the threshold lights but didn't reference the PAPI, gotcha. All that vertical guidance available from the avionics went to waste. Sorry for the loved ones the ladies left behind.
I feel sorry for the pilots and particularly the captain. Judging by the video they were thorough and professional and had the best of intentions with their actions.
Notwithstanding the Captain's blunders and the FO's appalling inexperience.... The AIRLINE letting Turboprop Pilots believe that they can quickly and easily transition into a JET - which is larger, faster, heavier - with very different handling characteristics? That's almost Criminal!! That accident was entirely avoidable. R.I.P. those poor Souls.
Come on man! A B-737 cant be landed like a DHC-8. Were was the CDI ( Course Deviation Indicator ) set to the ILS Localizer and Glide slope? Wow... in 5 weeks you should realize this thing does not fly and land like a Turboprop.
@@peteconrad2077 Don't you not switch / tune your NAV 1 or NAV 2 radio Flight Director to ILS after your VOR/DME gets you to the IAF ( Initial Approach Fix ) or the FAF ( Final Approach Fix ) ??? Or switch after you use your ADF to get you to the NDB Outer Marker Pete??? Is this the one that piloted the Gemini capsule or just using his name???
To avoid more tragedies fill in the black hole problem with orange lights. Or bonfires caused by the previous plane crash. That needs to be addressed. No black hole leads to better spatial awareness. It would help.
Both pilots were in over their heads. The pilots even prepared for a missed-approach (5:02). And WTH was that warning from the Tower (5:23) that "...the runway is muddy."?!?!? Then when the FO warned (6:32), "Pull Up!", it was already waaaaay too late. Criminy, was the Captain counting on Pure Luck? Well, he got it: Only killed two passengers and destroyed a really fine aircraft...
125 passengers unwittingly put their lives in the hands of 2 men who were woefully under-equipped to pilot the aircraft in question. It's the airline's fault however and someone deserved to go to jail over the death of those 2 passengers. And it's amazing that more lives weren't lost given the severity of the crash.
The only real mistake was pointing the airplane at the runway threshold. You're supposed to know that the touchdown zone is 1/3 down the runway already.
It’s interesting that only two people suffered catastrophic injuries. Rupture of the aorta is often instantly fatal, when a sudden stop counters the forward momentum of the heart and great vessels.
I'm going to take a shot and guess each section where the plane came apart is where they were attached together in the factory. Insiders and others had alleged poor quality control and violations of approved engineering processes by contractors. Look at other B737 crashes and will also see clean fuselage separations in crashes. A lot better survivability if the vehicle stays in one piece. Don't buy a seat in those areas.
Well done Allec sir. This can help the future pilots to stop making these errors. I don't know why the owner simply ordered the 737-700s quickly but what he did was wrong. He could have bought a simulator for training the turboprop pilots to jet pilots before the 737-700s are ordered. I feel bad for the pilots that they only get weeks of training instead of a year. And I also feel bad that they had these illusions like the Gulf Air Flight 072. RIP to the 68 year old grandma and a girl who died in this accident :( We can hope that future pilots like me and other kids or teens to watch your videos to not conduct these accidents and will always be successful
I have always asked,during such weather can a plane land safe with minimal input from pilot using the planes automation or safer pilot landing with full hands on ??
The only reason I asked is that now days the planes are fully automated...I love planes,I dnt or have never tried simulator..an engineer need not require a driving license to know how the vehicle is behaving..
Planes should only be allowed in the air during the daytime (8am to 5pm) and only in clear weather. If they have to cross a time zone they should be required to land and the passages disembark for a layover until the following morning.
As long as humans make and fly planes there will be mistakes. However, the reverse is also true. Pilots have the skill to make calls that are not logical but work, like landing a plane in a river and saving all on board. A computer would not do that since it is not logical.
WHEN IN DOUBT...GO AROUND OR DIVERT! MORE FIRST OFFICERS NEED TO BE MORE AGGRESSIVE WHEN IN SUCH PREDICAMENTS TO SAVE LIVES. MY CONDOLENCES TO TWO FAMILIES OF LOST PASSENGERS. GREAT VIDEO! THANKS.
South American regional airline. Four very scary words put together. I'd never any airline such as that one. Those pilots weren't ready or qualified for that plane type or that flight... it was an accident waiting to happen. As always, nice vid, Allec, and thank you...
Big difference between a Dash 8 and a 737. If they’re landing a 737 like a Dash 8 on a dark and stormy night there’s going to be a problem, especially if not trained well enough. The crash fatalities could have been a lot worse.
@@peteconrad2077 not so strange Pete, it's all about how and where turboprops are used. Turboprops are used on short-haul flights, lower altitudes, etc. More risk. As far as COMMERCIAL flights, which is the only experience I've had, and the pilots I talk to, they are more comfortable flying the DASH-8, for instance, than the 737, and even prefer the DASH-8. Yes, turboprops have a worse record than jets, but look at it in the proper context. Thank you.
@@bixster2260 prop pilots say they’re more fun until they get a shot at a jet. It’s like when you tell your mum your birthday cakes the best even though you prefer what your mate had.
Meaningful lesson learned: *Never throw a pilot who only flew smaller planes into a bigger one without giving the proper amount of training and guidance from someone more experienced!*
Wow, most people take longer driving lessons than these two pilots took to learn a new aircraft. Why didn’t they just let the autopilot land the plane? I’ve noticed in many of these accidents that pilots disengage the autopilot prior to landing, is that standard practice?
There are plenty of Aviation pilot learning videos on CZcams that can teach you all of them. Just type the search in. Allec has a lot of stuff to research for these videos. Not trying to be a smart ass.
VOR - VHF omnidirectional radio range. A beacon that signal to the airborne equipment which beating the aircraft is in from its location. DME - Distance Measuring Equipment. Uses radio pulses to measure the distance between the aircraft and the ground station. Often located with a VOR, in which case it’s usually referred to as VOR/DME. FMC - Flight Management Computer. Computer that manages the route. Has a display that shows the route including direction and distance, fuel needed at various points and lots of other information. The route can be inserted an modified by the pilot. Also provides navigation information to the autopilot allowing the autopilot to fly the route. Many approaches are flown using the FMC with GPS for navigation these days.
You should make a video, just like the others, but it's a perfect flight. They land successfully and everyone survives. Just to keep us guessing and have a laugh.
But be reassured captain Rodriguez is still flying 737 today,,,he learned his lesson!!! By the way current airlines in america,, hire their new pilots by race not experience!!!True. Lol ,,what a world
This man makes the best videos.
Rip to the 2 passengers.
This is why training needs to be thorough. Turboprops and jets are different
Maybe different in handling and systems but below the glideslope is below the glideslope no matter what you are flying.
@@johnfisher747 apparently it stated that the descent was exactly that of the turboprop he flew before, so no not entirely.
@@fluffy-fluffy5996 he slammed down 80 meters short of the runway threshold, what part of below the glideslope didn’t you get? He ignored the PAPI, he ignored the warnings from the FO. It wasn’t his first flight in the 737 but I assume it was his last.
@@johnfisher747 they got lost in the dark . That's why I don't like flying in the dark. I prefer flying during the day .
It’s Colombia, what do you expect?
Only 2 weeks of training for the FO to learn to fly a 737? The airline certainly knew that wasn't enough, but they sent the kid out anyway.
Reinforces the adage that "You don''t put newbies with newbies."
@@rickn8or True fact. Took me several months to learn to ride a bicycle (without falling off) and these guys had a couple of WEEKS on a 737?!
@@theresechristiansen9769 not even comparable. They were already trained pilots, you were not already a trained cyclist.
@@arun120977 they got lost in the dark evening. That's why I don't like to fly in the dark . It is dangerous
The FO was alert and smart enough to warn the captain. What else could he do. He was only 25 but came out of this better than the captain, who let him and all on board down; as of course more pertinently did the airline. Training costs money they didn't want to spend. Should have been better mandated.
San Andres is off the northern coast of Panama, I used to fly out of Howard AFB west of Panama city. Always lots of weather in the Caribbean basin. Great video!
@@bigballz4u Lol.
@@bigballz4u smart ass
Caribbean storm weather is something else. I remember a night flight in a DC-8 from JFK to Caracas forty-five years ago, through a lightning storm. Gulp.
@@elcastorgrande yeah, always something going on off the coast, near Maracaibo. From the Yucatan all the way to northern Brazil from around Feb-Nov. Constant tropical activity, every day, all the time.
@@MJA5 you're kidding ; it just sounds so surreal; i live in Canada. people go to work and fishing and flying in planes.. everything is just a lot "quieter in Nov-Feb" in Canada anyway
I was on that plane a couple months before this. CTG-BOG
Good thing you were not on it during the night in question.
So what. I was in the military when JFK was shot.
@@Capecodham what’s that got to do with the price of eggs ?
@@Capecodham actually what if I said no one cared and that was not necessary
@@coca-colayes1958 As much a factor as the guy was in the plane months before.
While two fatalities are a tragedy, I was expecting many more from this accident considering that the fuselage was torn apart.
ok
Minor miracle that there weren't more killed. Rip.
Considering that the medical facility on the island was likely not to be equipped to handle trauma victims, only two dead later was a miracle.
@Brady Raul LYING SCAMMER. THIEF
Yup. Still people complain about wearing seat belts
I cringed when the captain said he had a "recurring technique". Good one, Allec!
I cringed at your comment.
@@thedocnak I cringed at you ruining everything for everyone else
@@timitonagain I cringed at you cringing at me cringing at Sarah cringing.
@@thedocnak _head explodes_
I cringed at both of you
How devastating for the Captain, I think he did his best and is probably a good pilot
Excellent Job as always, Allec - and thanks for the "extra lighting."
Those 4 red lights was seen too late. Rip to those ladies. This is why I don’t feel comfortable flying at night, especially during a storm. 😢😢😢😢😢
I always wondered if Allec afraid of flying. I am definitely afraid of flying but I can't stop watching these well put together videos. It feels like I'm watching a short film
I think Allec may be a commercial pilot in the Malaysian area of the world. Not positive.
His dad was a pilot so i doubt it
I could watch these while on a plane ☺️
@@leonswan6733 He's like 14 years old. He made a video a couple years ago revealing he was like 11.
@@spinalcrackerbox lol
I remember this fondly. This happened literally the day before I started a new school year. I was preparing for the first day of school and then I learned of this tragedy. Even to this day, I am still impressed that almost everybody survived, and when I brought it up in social studies class at the start of the school year, the teacher was impressed with the high survival rate, too. My heart goes out to the family and friends of the two people who lost their lives.
Wow. They seemed competent until the end. Crazy they did not have sufficient training when moving to a large passenger jet for the first time...
Baffling! Appalling, in fact. This guy wasn't fit to be a captain for a larger aircraft like a 737, let alone ANY aircraft, IMO. Shame 2 people had to die because of his, and the companies, negligence.
When the bean-counters are allowed to determine training requirements, people die.
Yes, everything was fine because the autopilot was engaged. Once the Captain started flying manually, that’s when things went wrong. He should certainly have been sacked for such incompetence.
@@arturo468 actually, no, because he dialed in the wrong sink rate, which the autopilot faithfully obeyed. He would have crashed anyway.
But yes, he should suffer consequences for the failure. Of course, the executives who said abbreviated training was adequate should have been tried for gross negligence.
5 weeks of training strange , good that the airline didn't fire the captain Instead he was taken back to school for more training
Ask the passengers and the families of the dead if THEY think that it's "good" that this yokel is still flying passengers.
@@rongants6082 It's unfortunate but death happens; and so do accidents.
Everyone makes mistakes and it's even easier to when you are trained incorrectly. He was doing things the way he was trained to!
If I die in a car accident that is someone else's fault, I don't want the driver to lose his license forever! Come on now. It's not like it was a blatant mistake.
I don't think that I can blame the pilots as it sounds like they were not properly trained, however I can and do blame the airline that put them in that cockpit knowing they had given them very little time to properly train and learn the 737. So sorry to learn that two people died from their injuries received in this accident. I'm surprised the outcome wasn't a lot worse. Thank you for this video.
"To save money, lets just simply put our turboprop pilots on the jets in short training."
...Because saving money on training is *always* a good idea...
@@lairdcummings9092 ask Boeing
@@kirilmihaylov1934 when did Boeing save money on training? Boeing provides maybe the best training in the industry
@@RedGunBullets yeah like last time with 737MAX debacle. Nice try
Kiril Mihaylov Why blaming on Boeing? It's the airline's useless policy.
Allec, could you do the crash of plane that Prince Philips sister died in? It crashed in Ostend in 1938 I believe.
"Who's gonna fly the new 737's? Should we get experienced pilots?" "Nah, we'll just take the turboprop guys, give 'em a few weeks of training and it'll be just fine."
gonna?
@@Capecodham gonna.. yes its slang... it equals "going to"
What could go wrong?
@@thedocnak Why not sound intelligent?
@@Capecodham i dunno who's gunna really care, its the internets!
If you are wondering about AIRES (or LAN Colombia) after this, it becomes part of LATAM Group under the name "LATAM Colombia" along with LATAM Brasil (formerly TAM) and LATAM Chile (formerly LAN Chile) in 2012.
It's amazing how many people survive a plane crash, when there is NO FIRE! 🙏
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Used to fly lots of Dash 8’s out of DCA. The pilots loved them because the computer wasn’t flying the airplane, they were. Always felt very safe, more safe than in a 737. I laughed when passengers weren’t used to all the clunks and clicks of a normal Dash 8. Watching them jump when the gear dropped down hard right next to their window.
I'm sure the passengers were highly edified that your laughter was at their expense.
Great video. On this day I needed this....perspective. And sensitively put together, as always Allec.
The tailwing says "AAAAAAAAAAA", as if mimicking the screams of the passengers. Very foretelling. RIP grandma & little girl
RIP ladies. Great work as always.
That anybody walked away from this accident is amazing.
Puzzling that the investigators thought it relevant that the approach glide had been too steep.
Whether it was 3 degrees or 5, it brought the flight to "minimums" with the runway in sight. The Captain had all his instruments, plus a synthetic voice calling out his altitude, plus a colleague who said to pull up. He was clearly to blame for failing to do so.
That's unless there was something like a wind shear; a sudden down-draft that prevented pull-up. But the report of the investigators didn't mention that.
Incidentally, what's the protocol: if a junior sees a danger soon enough to point it out twice, might he not take action himself and over-ride the senior pilot? That might place his career at risk, but in this case it would have prevented the crash. Unless there was that wind-shear.
It makes a big difference. On a steep approach you have less time to react, much more energy to manage and much lower margin for error. Please don’t act like you know more than the investigators. You don’t.
Highly anticipating this video thanks for uploading and your hard work
Great video. Rip to the 2 passengers. Feel sorry for everyone involved including the pilot. At first it seemed like they were recklessly flying the plane but the truth is they flew the best they knew with with their training and experience.
Rest In Piece 2 Passengers.
Your comment is all about you saying look at me I am giving out good wishes
Is this a pun? or did you mean rest in Peace
The tower responded that the runway was muddy, was it a dirt runway?
I was thinking the same thing.
Potentially a reference to the grip on the runway
I believe it’s an asphalt runway.
Maybe a runway with poor draining, and collecting water and dirt here and there from outside
7 weeks traing total to go from turbo props to a 10 million dollar airliner!?!? What the actual hell?????
The captain was unsure of what the PAPI Lights were indicating? They only convey four possible messages:
You’re too high.
You’re too low.
You’re on the proper path.
You need to go around or find another method of determining your glide slope.
There is really no ambiguity. Even in the event of a malfunction of the PAPI Lights they’re telling you to go around or find some other method of determining your approach angle.
It’s not that simple.
There are many formats of visual slope indicator which indicate slope in different ways. Maybe this was one of the less logical ones. But the big point is that poorly maintained PAPIs are often ambiguous as they can have faded colour on the red or a misaligned cell. Both is these can cause confusion.
In short, don’t assume that because PAPI is designed to work as you describe that that’s an absolute. It isn’t. This is the kind of error that sim pilots make.
Absolutely amazing that their were only 2 deaths involved and I mean no disrespect to the 2 lost souls, considering how destroyed the aircraft ended up. First time I found out "the black hole" is another item these men and women have to contend with. Difficult job under the best circumstances, incredibly hard when things go wrong.
When ATC reported runway “muddy,” I knew they were in trouble, but I was surely not expecting this!
And exactly how did you know that?
Exactly how did I know they would be in trouble because the runway was muddy? Well, I suppose if all had turned out well, we wouldn’t be watching this video because it never would have been made.😑😁
Wait, a captain doesn't know how to read PAPI lights? 🤔
When was it ever stated he didn't know how to read them?? Captain stated he wasn't focused on the PAPI lights.
@@thedocnak 8:55
@@Recon3Y3z yeah I know what part of the video you were referring to. He says he doesn't know what the lights indicated because he wasn't looking at them, not because he didn't understand the concept of how PAPI lights work.
Those pilots were set up to fail. Like taking someone from a piper cub and expecting them to fly a B17 with no training. I feel so bad for those pilots and passagers.
Happy Earth Day Allec 🌏
Happy Earth Day to u kid.
@@jacobwong2230 thanks 🙂
@@twisterman4184 happy late earth day lol
@@barbadianaviation 🌏
The thing I like about this channel is that the videos are really detailed and I suppose that’s good because it’s so good, you don’t need to change it
at 6:05 Capt. Gutierrez suffers what must be an extreme form of situational unawareness and momentarily becomes Capt. Rodriguez
Great vid Allec! I know many have asked this before but it would be fantastic if you can recreate the Überlingen disaster
If the Überlingen disaster means the Bashkirian Tupolev collision with the DHL 767 then he's covered that one
Thank you Allec for your fine work.
I been with you since 2015
who cares?
@@Capecodham but no one cares lol
@@Interdictiondeltawing i concur, no one cares
@@thedocnak mhm
Five weeks pilot and two weeks for copilot certainly doesn't seem sufficient for training on a new aircraft. Loss of life confirms it.
Isn't THAT what Flight Simulators are designed for?.. The way that Jet looked it's no wonder that this COULD have been even more tragic here..
Fixated on the threshold lights but didn't reference the PAPI, gotcha. All that vertical guidance available from the avionics went to waste. Sorry for the loved ones the ladies left behind.
What vertical guidance from the avionics?
Avoidable Growing Pains would have also been an acceptable title.
How sad. I am always surprised at the number of "misuses" that occur with the autopilot system that result in catastrophic damage.
I feel sorry for the pilots and particularly the captain. Judging by the video they were thorough and professional and had the best of intentions with their actions.
Whoever this guy is he definitely deserves king of CZcams
Thanks for bringing us all these informative videos..well done 👍I respect all that you do ..love ya allec💙✈🛩🛬🌝
Notwithstanding the Captain's blunders and the FO's appalling inexperience....
The AIRLINE letting Turboprop Pilots believe that they can quickly and easily transition into a JET - which is larger, faster, heavier - with very different handling characteristics?
That's almost Criminal!!
That accident was entirely avoidable.
R.I.P. those poor Souls.
Come on man! A B-737 cant be landed like a DHC-8. Were was the CDI ( Course Deviation Indicator ) set to the ILS Localizer and Glide slope? Wow... in 5 weeks you should realize this thing does not fly and land like a Turboprop.
How would you have an ILS deviation indication on a VOR approach?
@@peteconrad2077 Don't you not switch / tune your NAV 1 or NAV 2 radio Flight Director to ILS after your VOR/DME gets you to the IAF ( Initial Approach Fix ) or the FAF ( Final Approach Fix ) ??? Or switch after you use your ADF to get you to the NDB Outer Marker Pete??? Is this the one that piloted the Gemini capsule or just using his name???
@@leonswan6733 VOR Aporoach, not ILS...before you comment maybe make sure you know what your talking about.
@@leonswan6733 all the flight sim captains are embarrassed of you.
@@Bren39 I flew Cessna 172s 20 years ago. I don't have any Sim stuff. But that was funny, Sorry I let them down lol
Can i get a heart be supporting this channel for 3 years
no.
Love your videos allec! Could you do the 2015 Moncks Corner mid-air collision? Thanks!
Great video as always.
To avoid more tragedies fill in the black hole problem with orange lights. Or bonfires caused by the previous plane crash. That needs to be addressed. No black hole leads to better spatial awareness. It would help.
Both pilots were in over their heads. The pilots even prepared for a missed-approach (5:02). And WTH was that warning from the Tower (5:23) that "...the runway is muddy."?!?!? Then when the FO warned (6:32), "Pull Up!", it was already waaaaay too late. Criminy, was the Captain counting on Pure Luck? Well, he got it: Only killed two passengers and destroyed a really fine aircraft...
*Excellent Video* 👍
They got 8 737's now.
Not anymore due to the crash the company was sell to lan later latam Colombia now only have airbus family
125 passengers unwittingly put their lives in the hands of 2 men who were woefully under-equipped to pilot the aircraft in question. It's the airline's fault however and someone deserved to go to jail over the death of those 2 passengers. And it's amazing that more lives weren't lost given the severity of the crash.
Great video! Thanks for the lightning the night videos!!!💖
Another beauty Allec
It seems to always be the same issue: *Money*
The only real mistake was pointing the airplane at the runway threshold. You're supposed to know that the touchdown zone is 1/3 down the runway already.
It isn’t.
I love your videos! Thank you so much for making these.
It’s interesting that only two people suffered catastrophic injuries. Rupture of the aorta is often instantly fatal, when a sudden stop counters the forward momentum of the heart and great vessels.
That’s what killed The Princess of Wales.
@@virginiaviola5097 Correct, head-on crash victims often suffer these injuries.
Excellent
Wow... Just, Wow... The lack of training... Just Wow.
6:38 yeah crash 6:39 yeah crash crash
Probably a stupid question but why are there two oil pressure warnings on the screen, was that part of the incident?
No there just indications, not part of the accident, But good question.
@@JosephStalin-yk2hd Those were low coffee alerts for the fore and aft gallies.
Thank you Alec!
Because you are brilliant, would be my guess.
I'm going to take a shot and guess each section where the plane came apart is where they were attached together in the factory. Insiders and others had alleged poor quality control and violations of approved engineering processes by contractors. Look at other B737 crashes and will also see clean fuselage separations in crashes. A lot better survivability if the vehicle stays in one piece. Don't buy a seat in those areas.
Most aircraft break forward and behind the wing because the stress concentrates there in an accident.
Suggestions For Plane Crashes With 100+ Fatalities Part 1/8:
1. 2009 Indonesian C-130 Crash
2. Malaysian Airline System Flight 653
3. 1969 United Arab Airlines Il-18 Crash
4. Thai Airways International Flight 261
5. LANSA Flight 502
6. Northwest Orient Flight 293
7. Indian Air Force Flight 203
8. Aeroflot Flight 558
9. Dominicana Flight 603
10. Air Algerie Flight 6289
11. Adam Air Flight 574
12. 1986 Iranian Air Force C-130 Crash
13. Afriqiyah Flight 771
14. 1963 Ankara Mid-Air Collision
15. Iberia Airlines Flight 602
16. Cebu Pacific Flight 387
17. Kam Air Flight 904
18. 1973 Royal Air Maroc Caravelle Crash
19. 2005 Iranian Air Force C-130 Crash
20. Flying Tiger Line Flight 739
21. Aeroflot Flight 2230
22. Pan Am Flight 812
23. Libiyan Arab Airlines Flight 114
24. Invicta Flight 435
25. Aeroflot Flight 3932
26. Alitalia Flight 4128
27. China Southwest Flight 4146
28. China General Aviation Flight 7552
Secret tip: don't take a flight at night or in bad weather, and your chances of surviving the trip will raise by 50%.
are you suggesting that surviving any given flight is a coin toss?
As always Allec, thanks for the good work
So this airline put two inexperienced pilots together to fly their 737s. So what could possibly go wrong?
Well done Allec sir. This can help the future pilots to stop making these errors. I don't know why the owner simply ordered the 737-700s quickly but what he did was wrong.
He could have bought a simulator for training the turboprop pilots to jet pilots before the 737-700s are ordered.
I feel bad for the pilots that they only get weeks of training instead of a year. And I also feel bad that they had these illusions like the Gulf Air Flight 072.
RIP to the 68 year old grandma and a girl who died in this accident :(
We can hope that future pilots like me and other kids or teens to watch your videos to not conduct these accidents and will always be successful
Great work as always! Love your content and keep up the good work!🙂
I have always asked,during such weather can a plane land safe with minimal input from pilot using the planes automation or safer pilot landing with full hands on ??
Buy yourself a flight simulator, and then try landing with "minimal input", even on a clear day, and you will have your answer.
The only reason I asked is that now days the planes are fully automated...I love planes,I dnt or have never tried simulator..an engineer need not require a driving license to know how the vehicle is behaving..
@@Georgejoseph74 aircraft can only autoland if the airport facilities and approach aids are suitable. They weren’t in this instance.
Planes should only be allowed in the air during the daytime (8am to 5pm) and only in clear weather.
If they have to cross a time zone they should be required to land and the passages disembark for a layover until the following morning.
😂
That doesn’t seem like a very good solution
There's too much Automation and not enough flying by the seat of my pants
As long as humans make and fly planes there will be mistakes. However, the reverse is also true. Pilots have the skill to make calls that are not logical but work, like landing a plane in a river and saving all on board. A computer would not do that since it is not logical.
Visual landing at night in a storm?
Got any better ideas from a non precision approach?
@@peteconrad2077 Divert to a better place
WHEN IN DOUBT...GO AROUND OR DIVERT! MORE FIRST OFFICERS NEED TO BE MORE AGGRESSIVE WHEN IN SUCH PREDICAMENTS TO SAVE LIVES. MY CONDOLENCES TO TWO FAMILIES OF LOST PASSENGERS. GREAT VIDEO! THANKS.
South American regional airline. Four very scary words put together. I'd never any airline such as that one. Those pilots weren't ready or qualified for that plane type or that flight... it was an accident waiting to happen. As always, nice vid, Allec, and thank you...
Big difference between a Dash 8 and a 737. If they’re landing a 737 like a Dash 8 on a dark and stormy night there’s going to be a problem, especially if not trained well enough. The crash fatalities could have been a lot worse.
Strange as turboprops usually have a worse record than jets.
@@peteconrad2077 not so strange Pete, it's all about how and where turboprops are used. Turboprops are used on short-haul flights, lower altitudes, etc. More risk. As far as COMMERCIAL flights, which is the only experience I've had, and the pilots I talk to, they are more comfortable flying the DASH-8, for instance, than the 737, and even prefer the DASH-8. Yes, turboprops have a worse record than jets, but look at it in the proper context. Thank you.
@@bixster2260 is that why pilots all over the world are always trying to get transferred from props to jets? Props are less reliable.
@@peteconrad2077 ok Pete ok. Whatever.
@@bixster2260 prop pilots say they’re more fun until they get a shot at a jet. It’s like when you tell your mum your birthday cakes the best even though you prefer what your mate had.
Meaningful lesson learned: *Never throw a pilot who only flew smaller planes into a bigger one without giving the proper amount of training and guidance from someone more experienced!*
Wow, most people take longer driving lessons than these two pilots took to learn a new aircraft. Why didn’t they just let the autopilot land the plane? I’ve noticed in many of these accidents that pilots disengage the autopilot prior to landing, is that standard practice?
I love your videos man!
Hey Allec. Maybe do a video on all the different acronyms. Such as VOR DME FMC etc. Thanks
There are plenty of Aviation pilot learning videos on CZcams that can teach you all of them. Just type the search in. Allec has a lot of stuff to research for these videos. Not trying to be a smart ass.
VOR - VHF omnidirectional radio range. A beacon that signal to the airborne equipment which beating the aircraft is in from its location.
DME - Distance Measuring Equipment. Uses radio pulses to measure the distance between the aircraft and the ground station. Often located with a VOR, in which case it’s usually referred to as VOR/DME.
FMC - Flight Management Computer. Computer that manages the route. Has a display that shows the route including direction and distance, fuel needed at various points and lots of other information. The route can be inserted an modified by the pilot. Also provides navigation information to the autopilot allowing the autopilot to fly the route. Many approaches are flown using the FMC with GPS for navigation these days.
lol his name is Allec, not Google.
@@leonswan6733 too late 😉
@@peteconrad2077 Thanks man. I guess not everyone is a smart ass
You should make a video, just like the others, but it's a perfect flight. They land successfully and everyone survives. Just to keep us guessing and have a laugh.
During april fools
I'd like to hear some cvr or atc audio on these please
Another great one!! ✈✈✈
Cheers Alec!
Nice work Allec. Dark screen easier to see.
Hey Allec, can you do (or have you already done?) John Denver's fatal crash?
Damn Columbian Captain didn't learn a damn thing from AV 052.
But be reassured captain Rodriguez is still flying 737 today,,,he learned his lesson!!! By the way current airlines in america,, hire their new pilots by race not experience!!!True. Lol ,,what a world