Teacher sacked after encouraging student to use critical thinking
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- čas přidán 13. 05. 2024
- Senior Sky News Australia reporter Caroline Marcus discusses the firing of a teacher who questioned a student's claim that author J.K. Rowling was a transphobe and bigot.
A teacher was fired after his video went viral on X, where he gently challenged a student's stance on whether Harry Potter author J.K. Rowling is a transphobe and bigot.
"As far as I can see, there was nothing offensive in that video," Ms Marcus told Sky News host Rita Panahi.
"In fact, I would welcome him to any school here in Australia."
"We need more of those kinds of teachers helping our children and university students develop their critical thinking skills, which are so lacking these days."
If you can get people banned/cancelled/arrested/jailed for hurting your feelings, you are not the oppressed... you are the oppressor.
Bingo!
It is not legally enforcable and for a school to conduct themselves in such a manner, is a tragedy and very sad day, deserving of being marked in history for the benefit of human rights.
💯🎯
@@mrhassellThe outcome is the same, that’s all that matters, they don’t care what the law says. Pelosi and Biden have even said they don’t care about the law because, “what are they going to do?”
Laws only matter if you can enforce them and enforce them against everyone, not just those without considerable power and resources.
@@JohnSmith-op7ls Dismissing someone, without legal grounds to do so, or wrongful termination, aka unlawful termination, is a serious issue for Australian employers. It means that you've ended an employee's contract without a legally valid reason or without following the proper procedures. Australian workplace laws are in place to protect employees from unfair treatment in the workplace. Specific legal conditions, vary by jurisdiction and the nature of any relationship (employment, contract, etc.) are also with some degree of variability but when something is blatantly illegal, the ramifications of their actions, will change any ambivluence or ambiguity of "care". It's criminal in a certain sense, to deprive someone of their livelihood, without a very good reason for doing so.
Sacked for being a rational man, the future awaits.
Yet the sky news panel is all female. Go figure
Agree,to the extent that I personally don't care.Don't care if i'm charged for thinking and saying my opinion,I'f I do not stand with my word's , I would be just another hypocrite." Verum manere ad te" said Cicero many year's ago.Yes it is a wank to quote latin,but we still have it because we should learn from our past. Ad abritrium meum est.
@@murrayreed2881the problem is you don't care until you do, I feel like you most he time. I'm not important enough to matter but if I say the wrong thing in the wrong crowd causing an issue to my income, can't pay my mortgage then that's a serious problem. It's a sad indictment of the system we exist in.
@@murrayreed2881
You're not "quoting Latin"!
You are quoting Cicero, 106-43 *BC!*
It is not "a wank" to do so, though public education from K to PhD has led generations to think so.
"Verum manere ad te", or "Stay true to yourself" is not as simplistic as some may think.
It means "Stay true to one's distinct *human ability* to investigate & think (conceptually) about principles & facts one may experience."
Too many people fail to learn from great thinkers, like Cicero, & Aristotle, and/or never learn their great understandings.
Yet learning from history & great thinkers is, as you say, "Ad abritrium meum est." "the shelter" needed by *everyone*!
Santayana would approve!
Our future is that we are doomed to repeat history once again.
He's a real teacher. What a stupid school.
Not a school any more. A brain dead woke indoctrination centre where students exit with these qualifications: DAS SFB NFI ( dumb as s&#t, S&#t for brains, No F&*#ing idea)
Maybe the parents should take all their kids out of the school as the establishment seem unable to teach the pupils to think for themselves !!!
Newton, Massachusetts, one of those effete, wealthy, leftist communities is one of the most intolerant communities in New England.
what a stupid country
@@kittybitts567 what are you on about? also you dont have to be woke to be leftist.
If Critical Thinking is wrong, then we're absolutely fugged.
School isn't for critical thinking. It's about teaching compliance ...
Even though I would prefer a different speeling 😂
@@NickM_FirstofHisName100 %
why are you so WILLING to go along with it?
@@aslkdjfzxcv9779 Are you asking why someone wants to be allowed to make up his own mind, ask questions and seek for further enlightment ? Isn’t ´t that the essence of being human
He is a man and a teacher, modern society do not want this combination
With critical thinking skills...
So we need to teach our own children critical thinking - it works
Straight, white. Only thing missing is he isn ´t old
If you look at how the landscape of the teaching demographic has changed so much it tells a sad story. Single, childless women running the show and it's a wonder why boys are falling behind and everyone pushed toxic masculinity as if it's a real thing...
and he's white
Big brother does not tolerate critical thinkers
True. The demoncraps, who are Big Brother, are elected by non-thinkers.
Ignorance is strength
War is peace
Slavery is freedom
Men are woman
Truth is misinformation
Deficit spending is deficit reduction.
Progress is triggering
Critical thinking is imbecility
I think you mean big sister mate. This guy was fired mostly for being a man imo.
This is why big brother goes to the guillotine
Using critical thinking - no evidence has been provided that this man was a teacher or that he has been fired. The story only exists in conservative media circles and could have been invented to push an agenda. Maybe it’s true but critical thinking needs to exist on both sides.
Can you name the school officials that got him sacked?
Show these people for who they really are?
They don’t know because he [Warren] himself hasn’t named them for the veiled threat they gave him about taking away his severance package.
I'm sure he is teeing up a lawsuit. But it takes time. And everyone, if they knew at all, will have forgotten
@@intractablemaskvpmGy I want to know who they are.
Maybe we should start with those who made this move to sack him. Let's look at their own moral rationale as to why they are against the maturity of critical thinking, rather than encouraging induction into the realms of oppressed control over your own viewpoint.
This is how teachers get I trouble. It is the same in Australia. I got in trouble for saying to a year 8 student that if she did not do her work (that meant opening her laptop) I would tell her dad (who was a teacher in the school!).
When I got suspended for that thing alone, I quit! If you want teachers that actually care about their students, start treating them with respect first. I was an excellent teacher, with amazing VCE results (several top 10 results) and well liked by students.
It is time to help our teachers, and stop blaming them every time a student (who is going through the traumatic issues of puberty) has a meltdown. This is normal for students. Unfortunately it is normal for parents to blame the teacher for these meltdowns!!
he was fired because he encouraged his students to think.
Its incomprehensible
@@BarbaraMacDonald-bq1lb not in these days were the narrative is more important.
Gee wizzz , your a bright spark , congratulations.
@@fishmut who's a bright spark?
@@fishmut Huhhhh????? "Please explain!"
He should take them to court, people need to stand up and expose the corruption of the education system.
It costs big money…I am a sacked teacher, there’s zero justice
@@CC-uq4hu maybe elon could help
I thought teachers unions were strong, so where are they on this.....
@@user-en9jk8rf8v Teachers unions are the absolute worst culprits. They are the Gestapo of the operation. If it were up to them, this teacher would be boiled in oil not just sacked.
@@user-en9jk8rf8vthey only defend teachers that step in line.
Fired and banned for saying truth? Teaching HOW to think, not WHAT to think? Unbelievable
He didnt even say the truth. He didnt have any opinions about the matter. He simply made the kid think for themselves instead of taking in and treating other people's opinions as facts.
This is everything wrong with public schools these days
You're Irish and you support the Provisional IRA murderers of the innocent Australian civilians Stephen Melrose and Nick Spanos. Your opinion is worthless, you support terrorists.
@@user-pj5ub5cp9k WTF? Seriously?
@@secondchance6603 Yes, seriously. Sean Delap supports the Provisional IRA murderers of innocent Australian civilians.
These schools work as intended.
@@NickM_FirstofHisName Let me fix that...
"These schools work as statists/leftists intended."
They tell students that their indoctrination IS critical thinking.
This is a disturbing occurrence, this man needs to run the university
Maybe even made Prime Minister or President and run a country.
Actually, it was a high school. He still had his part time job at the university. He worked full time in the high school
Name and shame the school, board that sacked him and the education board for allowing this even to happen.
This man is a great teacher that actually knows how to teach and not indoctrinate.
Yeah, i'm kind of surprised t hey didn't do more exposure of the school that fired him. The job of journalist is to hold power to account. Not just political power. All those that abuse it.
Newton North High School, now both of you surrender your internet card for incompetence.
@@0heck Unfortunately, this is "News" i.e. what is New (and Entertaining) for The People. Luckily, sentimental and thoughtful to a degree; HOWEVER, It's not Journalism where there IS a desire for such Integrity. These things are not equal.
He should name the school, so people know to avoid it.
It's almost every school though... it's systemic.
Newton, Massachusetts public school. I think it's Newton North High School.
@@glenmcl correction. Almost every American school. Since you dont usually see a teacher being fired for doing his job as a teacher in the rest of the world. 😅
Fired for telling the students to THINK rather than just unquestionably accepting the indoctrination.
I thought the purpose of schools was to teach children to think.
Once upon a time that was the case, however the purpose of schools these days is indoctrination, not critical thinking. The left took over schools a while ago, and society is suffering as a result.
you sweet summerchild, it never was meant to do that. Always meant to create obedient workers.....
That is what you were indoctrinated to believe. "Oh yes, we'll teach your children to think. We promise."
Nah I'm sorry to tell you; schools were just made to make obedient factory workers and get the kids obedient to shifts...in a very sad way it's succeeding, but it was never meant to teach rational thinking skills.
they waited until the story died down
That’s exactly what happened.
Why is he puzzled? He is a rational critical thinker who declines to passively accept the ideological dogma of the left, he is thus a danger to the dominant consensus. Our collective loss.
What’s your point ? So you roll over for the woke and accept the garbage of the day instead of doing what is right , why is he puzzled , your a fool.
Apparently the school was very supportive of his channel until recently.
Yeah cus the right isn’t ideological as fuck
Just crazy. A teacher teaching students to think.
We don't want people thinking!
Speak for yourself.
Clearly having people think is being institutionally stopped during children’s formative years.
@@rolandnelson6722 speak for myself? Who do you think people thought I was speaking on behalf of, if not myself?
@@killpop8255 I always speak on behalf of the bird that sits on my shoulder.
Now it wants a cracker.
Sack whoever sacked this excellent teacher and make him the principal. He's actually teaching young people to think critically - perhaps the most important subject there is.
I agree. Musk should buy the Uni/School and carry out your suggestion.
@@williamblack7813 Yeah, I know you're joking, but my concern is that we need laws that protect free speech, and not to have to relay on particular individuals to protect it. Eg, Musk owns X now, but what if the next owner decides to reintroduce censorship?
@@rogermouton2273 You are correct of course. BUT.... it seems to me at the moment the mega left on steroids are doing the censoring for the ideologies that don't fit their agenda. The big problem however, this teacher got sacked for doing the correct thing? This IS a problem and we ALL need to call it out.
Using critical thinking - no evidence has been provided that this man was a teacher or that he has been fired. The story only exists in conservative media circles and could have been invented to push an agenda. Maybe it’s true but critical thinking needs to exist on both sides.
@@jaybee4288 You seriously think this guy is making the whole thing up about being a school teacher in Massachusetts , teaching multiimedia, etc. Who was he talking to in his videos?
The problem is he's being a teacher teaching
Only problem not the government's narrative or ideologies
This.
He's teaching thinking.
That's the wrong kind of teaching.
He should've made his students learn dates of long past events instead.
As a teacher (from Europe) AND a human being, firing him for this is just despicable! I wish more teachers had the courage to teach students HOW to think and not WHAT to think, which is what ideologues do. Critical thinking should also make people question ideologically made-up words like "transgender" and "transphobia" when you know that gender is NOT a social construct and "transphobia' literally means "going from one fear to another". Words have meaning and you don't get to use Latin and Greek prefixes and suffixes as you see fit.
This is exactly why the reality challenged woke people don’t want teachers like this- because their entire ideology doesn’t make any logical sense and is promoting the very opposite to what they say they are.
Well said! Thank you.
Didn't know that about trasphobia! Definitely using it when I inevitably get called that!
As for how I've avoided it so far... recluse for life!
ALL Teachers should be like this teacher, if they aren't THEY shouldn't be teaching & it appears those who "sacked" him are the biggest problem to education.
This school needs to be called out for this - period!
Let's bring out the people who sacked him and take a closer look at them.
Do they exist though? Using critical thinking - no evidence has been provided that this man was a teacher or that he has been fired. The story only exists in conservative media circles and could have been invented to push an agenda. Maybe it’s true but critical thinking needs to exist on both sides.
@@jaybee4288using critical thinking, is JK Rowling irationally afraid of transgender people? We have also only seen that in media. We take a lot of things on face value. For instance, DOD you carefully examine the apparatus upon which you are resting right now, eah time you ise it, to ensure it wouldn't collapse? We live by experience, and my experience is that thongs like this regularly happen, just as the chair you sit on regularly doesn't collapse?
If he was sacked for that I wouldn’t last 2 minutes as a teacher
The reason he was sacked can be summed up in three words.
Straight, white, male.
And rational.
@@NickM_FirstofHisName And existing
And.... not a indoctrinator infected with the woke mind virus!
No. A woman would have be sacked too.
@@DragonLadyBada black gay woman would not have been sacked. A trans teacher would not have been sacked for saying the same thing.
Its beyond belief that a man who was healing minds in the gentlest way possible has now been subject to the most terrible penalty they can inflict. You should have links to his videos in the doobly doo.
What took them so long? In Scotland, where JKR lives, he would probably be sacked immediately and maybe even charged under the “hate crime” laws. Needless to say, the education system in Scotland was once excellent and is now quite unexcellent, as they would say nowadays.
It used to be better when the men were in charge...
Logic and critical thinking are male traits, now that women are running everything it is an emotional shit-show.
Has the Scottish educational establishment deviated THAT far from "The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie" days?
It wasn’t excellent when I was at high school in the 90s. The school was a dump and hadn’t been renovated since it was built in the 50s and we were still using textbooks from the 60s 😮 most of the teachers were jaded and lazy and you could barely concentrate on anything because of the rampant bullying!
@@GreatestCornholioI'd take text books from the 60s over the CRT and Common Core laden crap of today.
This reminds me of Socrates, found guilty of "irreverence towards the state gods" and corrupting the youth. The nerve of this guy, brazenly forcing an innocent student to question official cultural dogma like that.
Well put.
I'm unfamiliar with philosophical methods here but isn't he also using the Socrates method with the questions he was given?
The world needs more teachers like this.
Going through the British education system in the 1960s and 70s. ALL of my teachers were like this. Which is why my generation is now called "far right". Which basically means we don't accept anything as fact, just because the mob tell us to.
I am a teacher who realises he was teaching the student to actually think! It’s what I did…thank God I am retired now❤
The worst is that the school tried to offer him $$ to not talk about it publicly and he declined💪 mad respect to Warren
Hmm, the school has to give reason for this action. It sounds like a wrongful termination suit is very possible here.
God almighty how ridiculous
What a wonderful teacher. I only hope that the teachers in my children's school are as clear in their analysis and teaching as this young man is. I do hope he is compensated and reinstated if he so wishes.
I guarantee that the teachers in your school are the complete opposite of this man, as they are in pretty much every school in the western world. You should hear the gibberish that comes out of kids' mouths in Canada. That is, if they are capable of forming a sentence, which is becoming a lost skill.
The teachers in your children's school are very unlikely to be like this man. He's a rarity.
I had a Spanish class college professor who would do nothing but talk to us about the world (in Spanish). He always said his goal was to encourage us to think critically about everything. My favorite line from him was “ there’s no such thing as race.”
Schools are high paid employee child minding. Have been for years.
Surely there has to be more to this? On face value this guy has done nothing wrong but to encourage clear thinking
In a "woke" school that is UNACCEPTABLE and a sackable "offence".
Not that I am aware of and I have been following this since the video was initially aired.
I doubt very much that there is more to this. It is where our society is at now.
That is exactly it, the Left does not want any independent thought, it just wants NPCs.
Absolutely insane
And thereby showing just how captured by the wokerati the institution is and needs to be investigated. The individual who fired him should be the one who is fired.
They should sack the people who sacked him.
That teacher should be promoted to principal. Very sorry for him, and I wish him well for the future.
The world has gone mad.
He is an excellent teacher yet thats not what they want
They want a "woke" Propagandist NOT a teacher.
This teacher did a great job getting this student to think for himself. What a REAL teacher does!! Whoever fired him needs help!!
Does that teacher offer private tuition?
Do you mean, “private tutoring?”
Oh well, on the upside, that teacher is about to be a multi millionaire after he sues the school.
Unfortunately it won't happen
@@BarbaraMacDonald-bq1lb they will fight it tooth and nail...
@@marktwaine9344 it's in the US. Some states have "At-Will employment" so it's kind of hard to sue your employer unless you can prove some kind of discrimination.
Well that seems like textbook political discrimination just from the surface. But it needs more evidente, preferably reccorded. If he hires a private investigator to see why he has sacked, perhaps he could have more chances.
@@eternalflame8104 He got "controversial" attention, I suspect the reputational damage clause went into effect, most employment contracts have that. The terms are usually counched vague enough that any sort of attention can get you kicked out the door.
Time to CANCEL, CANCEL CULTURE. My opinion, my 1st Amendment right!🇺🇸
Do you think your first amendment right has any standing n Australia?
Watch the job offers come....... and the lawsuit !
They're going to make him the new Jordan Peterson.
This needs to go viral. This is so wrong. I just watched his video from his CZcams channel.
Could you please tell me what the channel is ?
@@BarbaraMacDonald-bq1lb
His channel name is: Warren Smith- Secret scholar society
I tried to put a link but it seems like you two will not allow it at the moment
It would be an absolute pleasure to have him teach my children.
Time to call out the woke conspiracy every time it comes out of the shadows.
No, no, no. He SHOULD indeed expose that school. Never protect such wrongdoing.
What justification is there for him to be fired? You can’t just simply fire people because you don’t like their opinions, there must be a lawsuit here
"Critical thinking = wrong think. And we can't have that! FIRE him!!!"
- the school
Name those who sacked him
The ones who sacked him are the ones that need to go... What a great time to be alive many say.... I miss the 1980's and 1990's.
Im not surprised, I spent my entire childhood being targeted and abused by the school for standing my ground on my beliefs.
NO such THING as 'transphobia'!
I'm going to see a doctor: I think I have Phobiaphobia.
@@DieFlabbergast it's a real thing
If they want to use Latin so bad it's transodic. The hatred of trans.
@@blackdragon796 Imaginary!
@@blackdragon796sure, and the Earth is flat.
Would love to hear from his students, are they ok with this.
THe teacher is what I wished for in a teacher for my son growing up in life. The minefield of politically correct stupidity needs to be stopped.. Please people.. Stand up for this stupidity. ELON... GIVE THIS GUY A JOB
Humanity is doomed if this is what's happening with education ... Let's hope he sues them and gets those responsible fired. But i have a feeling this is a decision that is way higher than the school principal, it probably was made by some powerful people in the school board.
Name the school !
NAME THE SCHOOL !
Tells you everything you need to know about the school.
Bad teachers stay because they do not care, and good teachers leave because they care...
The worst part is it sounds like the teacher knew that Rowling's transphobia is very well documented; he just wanted to teach the student the importance of citing sources and speaking impartially instead of speaking from opinion.
The student fell at the first hurdle, because he was put on the spot when all he was doing was asking a question. If he'd instead been asked to research it and write an essay, and then come back and discuss it, this would have gone very differently.
A man can't without someone watching there every move.
The teacher has a very good compensation claim basis for unfair dismissal. Where there is blame - there's a claim £££
It's in the US, a lot of states have "at will employment" so it's a bit harder.
How dare he encourage individual thought?!?!?!? Not in Obama/Joetato's America!!!
Which state of the USA did this happen in?
The teacher needs tp take this to court for unfair dismissal, tbis needs highlighting or the madnrss will continue
Dr. Peterson should hire him for his academy.
I just had a conversation with my mom, during which I thanked her for picking the perfect school for us, when my brother and I were kids in the nineties. If there was one thing that was absolutely crucial to the DNA of the entire school, it was free and critical thinking. That's what was ingrained into our brains from day 1 until the day we graduated. I honestly think, that's the most important thing you can teach kids. Today, my wife and I are worried about our 5-year-old son, because we're watching our Western education system heading towards 1984. And I'm not talking about the year.
Yes a awful society
So very Very SAD 😢
I had an interesting conversation with a Chinese colleague yesterday about his growing up and earlier years living in Communist China. An interesting comment he made was that Schools in China did not encourage their students to engage in logical thinking. He sees America becoming the China he left 30 years ago. This is a warning and prediction that America is becoming increasingly communistic, us heading in a bad direction.
"isn't it part of the education process to teach critical thinking?" not for the last 10/15 years or so. they've been lowkey teaching kids to be default left wingers for years and a lot of them get swooped right up into it. it may not be in the curriculum per se but it's the teachers personal beliefs they leech in to their teaching. and imo this is the literal cause for all this unrest we've had since the 2010's.
🤔 shortage of teachers especially male teachers
I wounder why is there's a shortage or is it really prejudice discrimination
Now you see why very little male teacher discrimination live and well
Not what you know its what truth your willing to compromise on
Do as i say not as we do
100% discrimination
How many never leave teachers I need hope which is hopelessness!
If that's how it is, it's not the kind of place I'd want to work anyway.
This is normal in Thailand where I’m from. It is scary that it’s happening now in the Western world.
They're freakin' @ Deakin!
'transphobic' = 'normal' There is no such thing as transphobia...
Isnt that a country in the Baltics?
I thought it was in the Balkans.
@@kieranh2005 You're fired
the clip of the teacher totally reminds me of brilliant sessions at university in my "USSR History" course when our prof gently challenged us to think through circumstances, which to me was the most valuable life lesson I learned in post-secondary education. Horrible that authorities fear students thinking for themselves!
To the left (who have a stranglehold of schooling) there is nothing more dangerous than critical thinking. As soon as he became well known enough to wake people up, he was always going to be sacked. Very sad, as he comes across as a great teacher who is exactly the sort of person you’d want teaching your kids, they want people who will accept and regurgitate without questioning.
Legal actions against the school
The system _does not want_ critical thinkers. And it sure as _hell_ does not want teachers inspiring students to _be_ critical thinkers.
How Dare that Teacher encourage a student to use their brain.
This definately looks like grounds for a Wrongful termination suit.
IF he got fired because of this clip, THEN that would be wrong. But we don't KNOW that he got fired because of this clip.
If only we had a clip of a teacher emphasizing the need to exercise critical thinking skills, then we could show it to the newscasters and they could use their newfound critical thinking skills to report the news more accurately.
When the weak are given power, they take out the strong. And everyone dies in the end.
No way they fired that guy?! Wtfff
We are done.
Who fired that teacher? They must pay
He is excellent and will do great things away from the cancel culture in that school.
We have not heard what is the school's stance on why he was fired.
This teacher is such a great example of how the very best people can be destroyed by irrational mob mentality. The current Maoism.
It’s funny how these people in positions of power don’t seem to realize their unrealistic responses to things they don’t like only brings attention to how broken their logic is and in turn has the inverse effect of what they are going for.
The future of America doesn't look good
Its in the state's best interest to have a population that will never question anything. Be a good little worker drone and be happy with all we give / do for you.
Retired now. Worked in education before I retired. Over multiple employers simply got used to the simple fact that the dept survived only by enduring profoundly stupid administrations. Often so imbecilic, the most talented professionals simply moved on.
There must be more to sacking than this transcript, were you sacked or just had contract not renewed, employers must give a reason for teminating employment, but may be able to terminate a contract or not renew a contract,
but if you were in employment and if no other reason for sacking take your school or authority to court for unfare dismissal.
this is wild... he's a teacher that actually does his job this is insane... perhaps now people will realize its time to stand up against this woke culture... they nag about oppression but they the one who are oppressing!
Big brother and big government can't afford critical thinkers they need obedient consumers as George Carlin pointed out.
This is getting ridiculous. This teacher did absolutely nothing wrong, he only wanted this student and all of his students to think for themselves and not follow the herd.
A disgrace. You can tell that this man is a good teacher. I wish him all the best for the future.