ShinRaPresident That’s a very extreme case, though I could explain it $100. It largely depends how ones family structure is and how they view their grandparents, but the prevailing stereotype is that most are more laid back as they are in the final years of there lives. As such they are not expected to be teaching or raising anyone. They’re role is more of figurehead, wiseman/woman, and story teller. Kids tend to like stories so they’ll cozy up to them and view them as a more fun figure in contrast to there likely more strict parents. A child should always have a strict parental figure to teach them about life, but a calm figure who embraces the more fun aspects of life can teach them not to be cynical. Now how spoiling fits in is very situational. Over spoiling is always bad, but just a little from the grandparents can help cement they’re “life’s little treats” motif. Again though, it all depends on ones individual family structure. This is all just a generalization
@@needles1987 I'm glad you got the joke my dude. It's nice to feel included. EDIT: This comment thread is a fucking wasteland, do not curse your eyes by bothering to read on.
Dylan Hills If you make yourself your child’s enemy, you’re giving them something to justifiably fight against. Then you’ll find they don’t follow any rules you set down, your kid will probably be messed up and you might find yourself alone in your old age. Ethan is right, you have to have a balance. Like all people in power they have to see you as legitimate, and sometimes that requires actually listening to them.
Kbbbbb, it depends on who you're talking to. To Conservatives, being called that means you're a very modest and have leadership abilities, To The Liberals, being called that means that you are uptight and very old fashion aka not keeping up with the times.
@@dddrrr7139 whoa there partner! Plenty of white guys were murdered too! Which is a tongue in cheek way of highlighting that your analysis is flawed. Flawed to the point of ridiculous, actually....
I feel Hank is actually a good balance between Disciplinarian and Friend Parent. He loves his son and treats him with a good level of respect and sets expectations for Bobby. But he also puts his foot down and makes sure his son knows when he did something wrong. It helps that Bobby loves and respects Hank. That’s the key factor here. The kids of McB and Nancy don’t exactly love or respect them. Hank’s struggles really only come from his child being his opposite, otherwise they have a strong relationship regardless of what the internet may tell you.
@@burgerking220 Uh, yeah? It doesn't mean the characters can't be well thought out. Mike Judge might have thought that the Bronsons would be shallow enough to name their kids after a basketball player.
@@C.O.SBurpees The show isn't underrated though. There is still plenty of love and attention given to this show and they still air reruns of this show with the idea of rebooting it being a possibility in the future. People still value this show before and after this end.
@@muffinland8660 uhh no there shouldn't be an equal amount of giving a kid what they need and want. Your job is to provide for them, not spoil them. You give them what they need in the day to day, and give them what the want when they earn it.
American Dad made a really good point about this sort of thing--kids don't need their dad to be a friend. They have lots of friends, but most kids only get to have one father in their life. It's up to the parents to be, well, parents--kind, but not yielding, firm, but not cruel.
There is a middle ground absolutely. Going too hard on a kid is gonna make them sneaky and rebellious and get themselves in trouble. If you're too light, they'll walk all over you and everyone else and get themselves in trouble. You need to let them make mistakes but guidance and rules are also important.
Some mistakes can get themselves or others killed, and end up in jail. You have to know when to step in. You're not only saving their life, but their future.
There’s a balance. A difference between authoritative and authoritarian. Kids need structure and boundaries. Also they need to be allowed to experience the consequences of their own actions. Sometimes experience is the best teacher of discipline.
Let you kids do what they want (chose their musical instruments, sports, extracurricular activities, friends, entertainment, etc.), but you have to set rules to guide them. You are shaping the next generation, some parents don't get that...
Red Floyd Both parents are horrible? How are Hank and Peggy horrible parents? They work and do their best to provide and educate their children Bobby and also Luanne. You have no real argument or reason to claim they're horrible parents.
Christopher true but they're still waaaay better parents than Peter and Louis and most parents we see today. And they're not even real. Sometimes kids are a special case and no parents are perfect.
That exchange between Stan and Rex from that one American Dad episode sums up the role of a parent perfectly; Stan: "Hey, for your information, Rex, my son and I work better as friends.” Rex: "I'm sure you do. Friends don't have to worry about discipline or setting an example. It's easy to be a friend; that's why kids have lots of them. But a father, our kids only get one of those. Who are we to take that away from them? "
I know it's just a show, but Hank is pretty cool. Especially when there are awful parents like the Bronsons. Nothing disgusts me more than parents trying to be "hip" and "cool" and young. It's sad and pathetic. There's nothing wrong with being a responsible adult like Hank.
It's not even that there's nothing wrong with it. The parents actually FROWN upon it. They see it as a bad thing. I mean the two look like they're doing well which indicates the dad does make a good living, but the son said he isn't going to work. What parent would be okay with that?
In short, the Bronsons have a permissive parenting style, often being out of the way of their children to their detriment with a lack of discipline enacted for the child to become a successful adult. They either don't care about parenting, try to be their "friends", or some combination and let the kids run the show.
My dad was my buddy but also knew when and how to lay down the law. He'd kick it with me and we'd watch Spinal Tap together and he'd occasionally let me sip his beer, but was also always transparent with me and made sure I understood discipline and respect. When I got too cocky he'd make me do yard work ALL DAY. Like, chopping wood and hauling brush and picking up trash in the neighborhood. But he also made sure to talk with me so I understood why he punished me like that: to teach me humility, discipline and respect. Just because he loved and supported me as a individual never meant he didn't take his duty as a parent seriously--if anything that's exactly why he took it seriously. He respected my space and agency but guided me with authority when i veered off course. That's love. That's what kids need.
I think this episode is more relevant now than ever. So many of my friends and other people of my generation think that they can just let their kids pretty much call the shots. You are doing your kid a massive disservice if you're not being firm with them. They have to learn early that the world doesn't revolve around them.
As a teacher, I agree with Hank. Kids need limits, discipline, rules. They yearn for them. Kids with no limits will be lost, confused, feeling leaderless. Which leads straight to adults with a lot of issues with self-control, including addictions of all sorts. Michael, aka Aaron the dog, already looks like he's well on his way to alcoholism and long-term unemployment, unable or unwilling to keep down a steady job.
@@HatredInTheFlesh maybe it's different for mexicans but we take care of our elderly parents and grandparent they would have to be completely jerks and abuse us for me to even put my parents in a home
Same could be said if your to strict on a child they get rebellious because they want a little bit of freedom and that's understandable I just think being to strict causes series problems
"You just have to be Bobby's friend" You mean like all the other kids in school? Just another of the same thing he can make over and over again instead of being the thing he needs. A child only gets one mother and one father.
Shrugs. Yeah only one mother and one father. So if children aren't friends with them, they don't have other parents to turn to. Growing up is about learning from mistakes in a safe environment. It's important for parents not to overstress over the small stuff. Your child is going to drink alcohol, way before the legal age, they're likely to have seks, and are going to get in touch with drugs. It's important that they can talk to you about these things. The key word here is "talk", not being forced to listen to a speech. Yeah there should be hard lines that they can't cross, and when they do you're going to have to take the reigns for them. Taking away a lot of their autonomy. But don't do that before it has gone wrong.
A very similar situation to this happened to me when I was younger. When I was a kid, I thought my mom was the worst for acting like Hank... as an adult, I don't think I could agree more with this message.
I love how Hank is clearly the moral centre of the show. So many comedies are mindlessly wacky, but Hank is a genuinely good guy with a decent head on his shoulders, and the comedy comes from his interactions with people like these negligent parents.
@@HatredInTheFlesh LOL. What is it with Leftists projecting their insecurities onto regular people? We get it, you're sheep, we've been telling you that for decades, feel free to admit it to yourselves so everyone can get on with their lives.
@@hazardeur he often over reacts, has anger issues, and experiences frequent culture shock, but he is still tolerant, and willing to change his views, genuinely cares for his family, and is clearly the moral center of the show. He's a well developed small town moderate conservative character, not an extreme stereotype.
@@HatredInTheFlesh Hank is clearly shown to be the voice of reason throughout the entire show. He’s not just seen that way by the “conservative sheeple”
My parents were cool with me drinking at home after i turned 18... in Peru but if i ever talk to my dad like that, he'd kick my ass and he'd have the right to do so
*Hank refuses to have sex with Debbie* "No one refuses Debbie Grund!" "Well, I just did." The funny thing is, he might not even have been thinking of what Debbie was _really_ after.
To all the comments saying "if your kids are at home then you fail as a parent," get real. What's wrong with letting junior stay home and save up to put a nice down payment on a house as opposed to moving out like others and renting a shoebox in the sky? There's no way junior can afford a decent house today off the bat, so give him a chance to save up. Same people forcing their kids out wonder " why doesn't little jimmy visit us more often?"
Exactly. My brother struggles academically, and my dad didn't think he would even graduate from High School. He worked hard despite his limitations and did so. Now, he is going at a slower pace, but he is 27 going for his bachelor's degree in college, working two jobs, and living at home while looking for someone to marry. At home, he is able to help my parents as the only sibling still living there, saves a ton of money from rent, etc., and is now has a lot of money in his savings. My whole family is very close, and we are willing to help each other financially if we have the means, and so far, the brother that struggles the most probably works the hardest and is prepared to help anyone else in the family financially at a moment's notice. I am a CS major living with my wife and almost graduated with no debt, so I can start making money right away. My oldest brother lives farther away with his family and makes the most money but has the largest amount of debt, so he can help more in the long term once loans are paid off. Everyone has reasons for why they might live at home, away, etc., so I hope people don't just go around assuming my brother is immature for living at home. He's a hard worker and more ready to be married and a parent than even I am.
If they're working and/or going to school (and no, I do not think going to school full time warrants one to not work at least part time), then that is fine. I'd probably charge menial rent but there is no shame in living with your parents if you're trying to get on your own. The kid in this clip said outright he's not going to work.
That’s what I did, but I didn’t live at home for free. I paid my mom rent, took care of myself helped with utility bills, helped fix her car when she needed it and helped with the upkeep of the house, and now I own my own house.
Not really. Strict, overly conservative parents suck. They then wonder why the kids drop contact with them or throw them in retirement homes at the first chance.
@@gcHK47 the wife dresses like she's holding on to that las scrap of youth for sure. The way the dad dresses reminds me of Charlie Sheen in Two and a Half Men
honestly would hate to have either dont want someone helping me make horrible choices to ruin my life but choking your child with rules and judgment is a quick trip to the retirement home
I'll give my piece here. It's okay to be laid back with your kid, but laying down boundaries/rules and keeping your responsibilities as a parent is still integral to raising your children. I didn't like how my father treated me when I was young. It made me afraid of him back then. Now, me as a 20 year old, it's hard for me to get along with him. We just don't mesh well together, but I still have a level of respect of him as my father. In contrast to say, my grandfather from my mother's side, he rarely ever raised his voice towards his kids and for the most part let them did what they wanted, but was never afraid to disagree with something he considered was wrong and at worst gave them the "talk". I respect him for that. My uncles turned out great and my cousins are, well, fairly normal people who get along well with their dads. There's a difference between raising your kids to have zero discipline in their adulthood, raising them to become loving and respectable parents, raising them to only visit you out of obligation, and raising them for them to call once every few months or even never.
The amount of people in the comments who don't get it is remarkable. The key is a balance between discipline and fun. Too much of either will be your downfall - If you have no fun, your life will feel empty, but if you have no responsibility, you'll never do anything with your life. It's super obvious, though maybe moreso because I've seen the full episode..
the real lesson here is that in the big picture,they are both wrong...its important to give a child discipline and reasonable boundries...but its also good to develop a relationship on a meutral level,that can lead to your child identifying more with you and can even lead to understanding and respect..and its good to give them more freedom to make thier own decisions and mistakes (sometimes there is no better teacher than natural cause and effect)..of course you can take that to far as well (as shown in the episode) you can be their friend AND thier parent...the key is a healthy balance in both methods
The way I saw it with my own dad is that he had a rules, boundaries, and discipline, but he still allowed me to make mistakes so that I could learn from them. A good parent knows not to victimize their children and believes in their children's ability to grow by letting them fall a bit but never over the rail into something far more serious. That's my opinion and experience, but just in case people misunderstand. Kids need to be allowed to understand things for themselves by living the consequences of their own choices, but never would I allow my child to do something I know--from my experience-- would bring only sadness and grief such as an addiction. No one should have to fight with that. It's like an endless hole you try to climb out of it. It should always be prefaced with teaching, sharing of experiences, and other pieces of wisdom to help them make good decisions for themselves, not make the decisions for them.
Hank isn't wrong. Hank has tried to connect with Bobby but the two are different with different interests. But he does have good moments, like when Bobby hits the deer Hank tells him good job. Or when Bobby wrote in the book about the Alamo, Hank doesn't punish him and takes him to Six Flags instead.
@@Kaboomboo True. but maybe just like how Hank tries to show Bobby thinks he's interested in that he can take an interest in with Bobby's interested in
Then there was my childhood. 18 straight years of: "Mom, can I.." "No." Kudos to Hank and Peggy for at least letting the kids spend time together under supervision.
Holy fuck your profile picture is creepy. Stop basing your life around a fetish. I don't know what kind of trauma made you think it's ok to devote your free time to pursuing a fantasy as a cartoon toddler but it can't possibly be healthy... especially something that is basically the same thing as being a pedophile. Get help. Leave whatever online communities you are in. You are sick.
As what a wise gorilla from American Dad once said, _Friends don't have to worry about discipline or setting an example. It's easy to be a friend, that's why kids have lots of them. But a father, kids only get one of those. Who are you to take that away from them?_
The show makes fun of Hank the most. The Bronson’s from what I can tell just act like a typical 2000s California sitcom family, like two and a half men.
My favorite part of this show is the caricatures of liberal/bureaucratic/“California” type people. Like this couple, Bobby’s “drain the quarry” teacher, and the child protective services guy
Hank is a disciplinarian parent, he never laid hands on Bobby, he can be irritating , but he knows whose boss. I understand why some parents want want be the kids friends, but you can't raise friends.
Dude me being Latino has zero to do with what I said. It's just common sense. Parents who spoil their children raise spoiled adults. Which is why I said I was surprised that their kid came out decent. Pay attention.
They ease up too much. They have a grown man for a son who still lives with his parents, has no job, and doesn't even plan on getting one and their parents don't say a word. There's a time to ease up and a time to give your kid a kick in the ass. I'm not saying Hank's mode of parenting is any better. He stifles Bobby a lot. But at least he's a much better disciplinarian. As a parent, you have to know how to strike a balance with your kids. Otherwise, they can either grow too complacent in life and don't amount to anything or grow to resent you. I like this scene because of how it represents two extremes of parenting.
@Cali God I dont want to be that guy but Republican originally were all for immigrants and the Democrats were against immigration it didnt star changeling until the last 20 years
Be a parent to your kid(s), not their “friend”. Being their friend doesn’t do them any favors for later in life. Kids can’t grow up to be adults if they are raised by parents who don’t act in that manner.
"A brick wall of rules, limitations and discipline". Sounds like my father. I had all that and I was prohibited from doing anything that could get me into trouble...
Why can't you have a brick wall WITH a door in it? Or a couple doors. Just so you can demarcate that there are options, but there are some paths that were never meant to be taken and there's a reason they've been walled off. I think this demonstrates an issue with Hank that is also shared with a lot of traditional conservatives -- while they do have points, they have trouble constructively expressing themselves and understanding the other party, and wind up positioning themselves in absolute reaction, digging their heels in and turning themselves into the complete antithesis of the ideas they identify as dangerous or destructive, which is no way to communicate, convince, and persuade. He can't even convince his own naive wife, and can't even comprehend the fact that she isn't taking his side, despite the many, many, MANY times throughout the show Peggy has been shown to be naive. He expects her to be unquestioningly on his side without needing to explain things to her, which honestly is a pretty big problem for Hank's character, he can't or won't see this pattern of behaviour. This is another problem I've seen with conservatives -- they take the ideals they see as common sense for granted and consistently fail to see disagreement. They, too, have a sort of utopian ideal, that everyone 'just understands' these things. Hank's concerns are very real and very valid -- but he doesn't know how to argue for pragmatism properly in the face of utopian idealists that oppose his point of view, and instead winds up looking like 'the bad guy'. It's the curse of being a simple man who has common sense. "How do you think your son's going to make it in the world after you're gone, if he doesn't know how to work or hold down a job? I can't raise my son this way. I refuse to put him at the risk of being caught unprepared in a world that won't care about your or my high-minded ideals. And don't think I don't want to be his friend -- but I've got the patience. I'm looking forward to the day when he's grown up into a fine young man that I can see as my equal. But by God, I've got a responsibility to make sure he reaches that point, or I've failed as a parent, and worse, I've failed my son. I can't tell you how to raise your own son, but I can tell you that I see the writing on the wall. And one father to another, I'd never wish that kind of despair -- the despair of failing your own family -- on anyone." Society would be a lot better I think, if more people were able to communicate their point like that. It's a message that for too long has not been in our society, nobody knew how to speak the words. "Responsibility is important" isn't just something you can say as a truism, you have to make the case WHY it is, and why they're not a monster for promoting it -- and much the contrary, that they're doing so out of good faith AND compassion. The first person who can articulate it has surely won many hearts, and reminded us why it's such a cornerstone of a healthy society. It's unfortunate that rhetorical skills in this regard are imbalanced.
It's the problem with american culture in general, transgression is worshipped, Some transgressors are more famous then the most famous vets, If you don't rebel against a precieved mainstream notion, Not matter how pragmatic or reasonable it is, You're a considered deficient, Naive, Foolish, Or downright evil. I've had americans lecture me on how drugs are okay and i was brainwashed by big pharma, Even though i am not an american.
@God of Death what does that even mean? Any parents I’ve encountered who try to be friends with their kids instead of disciplinarians ended up with fucked up kids. I’m glad my parents gave me rules and weren’t scared to give me a whack when I needed one.
@@oilersridersbluejays You don’t have to be friends with your kids. Also, anecdotal evidence isn’t a valid argument. Plenty of kids with disciplinarian parents end up being scumbags.
I have to rewatch this episode. These parents clearly associate discipline with only negative reinforcement, when in reality, positive reinforcement (rewarding good behavior) is more powerful.
Hank can be too uptight but Mr. Bronson is far too laid back to where he is fine with his son not working. At the end of the episode he wasn't even going to let Bobby hold hands with Jordan but it was that moment he lightened up a bit and allowed it. Like damn dude. Chill out. They're not having sex or anything. It's okay to set rules and limitations but don't go overboard. Being laid back is fine but don't be irresponsible about it either.
Parents aren’t supposed to be friends. It’s their job to set the line and teach you to respect the line by being a good person. They need to lead by example and ensure their kids know they have their backs, even if they seem stringent. These “parents” are horrible people setting the kids for failure
@@dominantwolf4593 OP didn't say the Bronson's were a good example, just that being too strict (like Hank here) isn't good either. Objectively Hank is a way better parent, we all agree on that, but he should lighten up on Bobby a little.
The reason why strict parents are they way they are, because they were just like their children, and don't want them to make the same mistakes. People say they forget what it was like to be a teenager. They remember exactly what it was like. That's why they're hard on their own kids.
@Austin Statin The joke wasn't that it wasn't a modernized place. It was that the kids were being kids, enjoying it because it was age appropriate (so, Hank was right) and the parents, who never matured past high school, were embarrassed to be there.
No need to apologize. Just keep in mind, this was supposed to take place in the late 90s and plenty of "hip" parents wouldn't want to be caught dead in an "antique store" like that Ice Cream Parlor. I'd like a place like that, but they wouldn't.
@@akasupaman How do I explain it, but you know when people say sorry not sorry? I was saying it like that, you can't really tell with tone in a comment section.
I think taking your kids to an ice cream parlor is plenty cool. Hell, my parents rarely ever did that for me. I'd love to go out with the family for some ice cream and waffles
Look, I'm not against parents being friendly with their kids, my dad loved to hang out with me and my siblings and joke around with us, but you still need to be able to assert authority and discipline your kids when they do dumb shit.
If you raise your kids, you get to spoil your grandkids.
If you spoil your kids, you get to raise your grandkids.
Very true
@ShinRaPresident As long as the actual parents, your kids, correctly discipline then yes. It's negated by the cool grandparents effect
ShinRaPresident That’s a very extreme case, though I could explain it $100. It largely depends how ones family structure is and how they view their grandparents, but the prevailing stereotype is that most are more laid back as they are in the final years of there lives. As such they are not expected to be teaching or raising anyone. They’re role is more of figurehead, wiseman/woman, and story teller. Kids tend to like stories so they’ll cozy up to them and view them as a more fun figure in contrast to there likely more strict parents. A child should always have a strict parental figure to teach them about life, but a calm figure who embraces the more fun aspects of life can teach them not to be cynical. Now how spoiling fits in is very situational. Over spoiling is always bad, but just a little from the grandparents can help cement they’re “life’s little treats” motif. Again though, it all depends on ones individual family structure. This is all just a generalization
Wisdom
or you just don't have kids.
If they think ice cream is uncool, then don’t deserve that title.
I was all "whut"
Nice english. First time?
@@coreyb1295 I like to live in Ameeeericaaaaa
@@coreyb1295 When the Grammar Nazi forgets about context clues.
What title?
Hi Ronald Raegan.
Don't call me THAT.
Don't call HIM that.
AHAHAHHA 😭😭😭
It's almost as if Hank is saying "Call me Ronald Reagan instead."
@@needles1987 I'm glad you got the joke my dude. It's nice to feel included.
EDIT: This comment thread is a fucking wasteland, do not curse your eyes by bothering to read on.
@@Asdayasman lol ill bring the ice for that burn.
That's one of my all time favorite KotH quotations. Sums up the humor of the show in a nutshell.
"Yeah, Don't call him that." My favorite Hank Hill line.
Brian C god I laughed at that
FuckYouAllToPieces
Naw naw naw your quote sucks, it goes:
“Yeah, don’t call *him* that.”
😂😂😂🤣🤣
@FuckYouAllToPieces OwO
@@colin-campbell no you idiot
"Peggy, call the police"
That's when I knew this show was top 5
I died at that part, it was such a typical thing to expect from Hank 😂
Lmao
I kind of wish the cops were called just so they could completely tell of Hank for wasting their time.
@@tommoore2012 nah that's not how it's go, the kid would end up slipping weed into Hanks pocket and he'd get arrested.
I love the "Ronald Reagan" joke. Both men took offense to it but for entirely different reasons.
Brilliant writing
@@xXJAKMACKXx mike judge is a genius
Oh God I just caught that, I thought he was standing up for him that I forgot that Hank didn't like him. That's such cleaver writing.
At least at the end they get a comeuppance.
@@THOMASINTHE1980S I LOVE YOU
In this clip, Bobby demonstrates that he is- in fact- a skilled ragtime pianist.
I took a closer look, and the piano is playing itself. Bobby is just pretending for fun.
@@stephenking5852 Good eye. It's a self playing piano. Neat.
@@stephenking5852 this show has an incredible level of background detail at times
Bobby has no innate musical talent, he couldn't even blow into a jug on beat
Can we take a moment to appreciate this guys name
A good parent can be a friend when it's the right time, but can also lay down the law at the right time. You need a sort of balance.
Are you giving parenting advice on a king of the hill video?
@@bmx687 Not really. That's the premise of the episode itself.
@@bmx687 What do you think this episode was about you braindead ape.
Fuck that... If you're your kids' friend, you'll have problems with them.
Dylan Hills If you make yourself your child’s enemy, you’re giving them something to justifiably fight against. Then you’ll find they don’t follow any rules you set down, your kid will probably be messed up and you might find yourself alone in your old age.
Ethan is right, you have to have a balance. Like all people in power they have to see you as legitimate, and sometimes that requires actually listening to them.
I knew a kid whose parents were "friends" with their kids. One of the kids is in prison and the daughter is pregnant with her second kid at age 18.
How old was the daughter when she had her first.
@@Mohico-San *8 years later* lol
fails every time
@@MrV902 lmaoo
@@iangacii786 😕
Plot twist: Their friends were in fact going to get ice cream, but saw them and quickly saved face by lying about just needing to go to the restroom.
That was 100% it. They both wouldn't have came in if they weren't.
"Peggy...call the police"
John Graham How come Hank said that?
Why is this not a meme too?
mad jack someones gotta work around here "sure aint gonna be me"
6 years too late with my comment idea again!
thanks
This video went on JUST long enough for me to inconveniently forget it wasn't the full episode
The full episode is a treat. Lol
Happened to me too
@@Ibelikemj Which episode is it?
@@jordanstapelberg507 the full one
I bet if someone called Hank "Ronald Reagan" he'd take it for the ultimate compliment.
Who wouldn't?
@@TEHINTERNETSPOST To me that's the second greatest insult you can call a man.
Kbbbbb, it depends on who you're talking to. To Conservatives, being called that means you're a very modest and have leadership abilities, To The Liberals, being called that means that you are uptight and very old fashion aka not keeping up with the times.
@@conversationtosaurusrex it means you'rea a god damn murder of brown people , a racist, and a fascist sympathizer
@@dddrrr7139 whoa there partner!
Plenty of white guys were murdered too!
Which is a tongue in cheek way of highlighting that your analysis is flawed.
Flawed to the point of ridiculous, actually....
I feel Hank is actually a good balance between Disciplinarian and Friend Parent. He loves his son and treats him with a good level of respect and sets expectations for Bobby. But he also puts his foot down and makes sure his son knows when he did something wrong.
It helps that Bobby loves and respects Hank. That’s the key factor here. The kids of McB and Nancy don’t exactly love or respect them.
Hank’s struggles really only come from his child being his opposite, otherwise they have a strong relationship regardless of what the internet may tell you.
i agree id say not being as openminded to letting bobby make his own interest choices and supporting them is a flaw
“You know, you could wear a shirt like McB’s.”
Have you *seen* Cotton?
It's Cottens exact shirt
Its actually 1 green stripe away from being his exact shirt lol
That was the joke.
"I Killed fitty men!
Probably a coincidence but I just realized their kids are named Michael and Jordan.
@Jesus Delgado you know this is a show right?
@@burgerking220 Uh, yeah? It doesn't mean the characters can't be well thought out. Mike Judge might have thought that the Bronsons would be shallow enough to name their kids after a basketball player.
@@crazyeyes8962 Exactly.
Crazy Eyes dude can you let scientists study your body? Because boy howdy is that a stretch
@@jebbryant6522 it's really not at all
Father: "Someone needs to work around here!"
Son: "Sure ain't gonna be me!"
Broly the sarcastic savage Ok, boomer.
Game Boy we get it pussy
General Panty Slasher Fr, Reddit/Twitter zombies beat the fuck out of that dead horse
@Broly The Sarcastic Savage "typical millennial mentality in a nutshell" says millennial, about show created before millennials.
@@Torthrodhel Was this show created before 1981? Because that's when they first millenials were born. You're both wrong.
King of the Hill is underated
Not at all. It's praised by many and considered to be one of the best animated shows of all time. Underrated is not the word to label KOTH, buddy.
Yes it is "buddy" 😁
@@C.O.SBurpees The show isn't underrated though. There is still plenty of love and attention given to this show and they still air reruns of this show with the idea of rebooting it being a possibility in the future.
People still value this show before and after this end.
@FuckYouAllToPieces What's that supposed to mean?
@FuckYouAllToPieces Ok. I dunno if that's an insult or not still since I do not like my dad at all.
Either way, I don't get why you said to me. LOL
"Nice job, Ronald Reagan!"
"Hey! don't call me that!"
"Yeah! Don't call _HIM_ that..."
LMAOOO
The idea of being embarrased of taking your child out for ice cream is real depressing.
"Hey there's a great.." "I'M PICKIN' THE PLACE!!"
LOL!!! so funny.
LOL!!!
@@minlunag5812 Nice.
I've been told 'Good parenting is giving your child everything they need and very little of what they want'.
No, good parenting is balancing both.
Muffin Land Well it can only be done if the parent is really rich
Not all people rich
Well you need to give them almost everything they need.
RyanJ504 I think it should be equal of what they want and need
@@muffinland8660 uhh no there shouldn't be an equal amount of giving a kid what they need and want. Your job is to provide for them, not spoil them. You give them what they need in the day to day, and give them what the want when they earn it.
McB's shirt looks similar to Cotton's shirt.
Or Charlie sheens shirt
☆°(-❛ᴗ❛)°☆Cripes Almighty' you're both right🌻Charlie Sheen and I killed fiddy men☆°(❛ᴗ❛-)°☆
Coincidence? I think not...
1bcf84: yes it does, Charlie Sheen, two and a half men right?
Only this guy wouldn't be able to to kill fiddy men.
"This place is so uncool."
You'll never as as cool as Boomhauer is pal.
American Dad made a really good point about this sort of thing--kids don't need their dad to be a friend. They have lots of friends, but most kids only get to have one father in their life. It's up to the parents to be, well, parents--kind, but not yielding, firm, but not cruel.
There is a middle ground absolutely. Going too hard on a kid is gonna make them sneaky and rebellious and get themselves in trouble. If you're too light, they'll walk all over you and everyone else and get themselves in trouble. You need to let them make mistakes but guidance and rules are also important.
It also depends on the type of mistakes. Not all mistakes are fixable and some can literally change the course of your life.
Some mistakes can get themselves or others killed, and end up in jail. You have to know when to step in. You're not only saving their life, but their future.
There’s a balance. A difference between authoritative and authoritarian. Kids need structure and boundaries. Also they need to be allowed to experience the consequences of their own actions. Sometimes experience is the best teacher of discipline.
"what are you doing in an ice cream parlor"
"were getting ice cream"
"We're being bad and eating good"
Yet nobody asked them what they were also doing in an ice cream parlor
@@AlexKomnenos letting their son use the bathroom
@@jabber1990 son? Wasn't that her husband?
Bobby would have turned out even more not-right if Peggy was in charge.
Agreed. It's the fact that Peggy has such influence over Bobby already that has made Bobby the neurotic mess that he is.
She often dissuade Bobby’s good ideas as her own most of the time, 😒.
@@hariman7727Bobby’s a good representation of a perfectly normal kid
My parents were disciplinarians and now look at me. Ended up in a youtube comment section.
Better than the streets
@@Kaboomboo a lot of children of disciplinarians and conservatives end up on the streets or in prison too buddy
@@HatredInTheFleshnot as much as these little bastards who lacked a good ass beating growing up.
@@HatredInTheFleshLiberal kids are the worst
I'm so sorry for your loss
Perhaps it’s because I’m a pianist myself, but I can’t get over how funny the brief scene where Bobby pretends to play a player piano is.
"We Used To Be Disciplinarians"
You mean REAL parents?
Red Floyd you need a mix of both relaxed but firm
Let you kids do what they want (chose their musical instruments, sports, extracurricular activities, friends, entertainment, etc.), but you have to set rules to guide them. You are shaping the next generation, some parents don't get that...
Red Floyd Both parents are horrible? How are Hank and Peggy horrible parents? They work and do their best to provide and educate their children Bobby and also Luanne. You have no real argument or reason to claim they're horrible parents.
Christopher true but they're still waaaay better parents than Peter and Louis and most parents we see today. And they're not even real. Sometimes kids are a special case and no parents are perfect.
Yea because the western idea of real parenting has really led our world right
That exchange between Stan and Rex from that one American Dad episode sums up the role of a parent perfectly;
Stan: "Hey, for your information, Rex, my son and I work better as friends.”
Rex: "I'm sure you do.
Friends don't have to worry about discipline or setting an example. It's easy to be a friend; that's why kids have lots of them.
But a father, our kids only get one of those. Who are we to take that away from them? "
"Now come along Bobo you're grounded for 3 moons"
"I love you too dad"
what are you talking about? (like if you agree)
@@MASTEROFEVIL ????(likeifyouagree)
Some people have to take what they can get, my dad acts more like an older brother than a father these days.
What episode is that from?
I know it's just a show, but Hank is pretty cool. Especially when there are awful parents like the Bronsons. Nothing disgusts me more than parents trying to be "hip" and "cool" and young. It's sad and pathetic. There's nothing wrong with being a responsible adult like Hank.
Honestly, his responsibilities is one of the most attractive things about him.
It's not even that there's nothing wrong with it. The parents actually FROWN upon it. They see it as a bad thing. I mean the two look like they're doing well which indicates the dad does make a good living, but the son said he isn't going to work. What parent would be okay with that?
Amen
Hank goes way too far.
In short, the Bronsons have a permissive parenting style, often being out of the way of their children to their detriment with a lack of discipline enacted for the child to become a successful adult. They either don't care about parenting, try to be their "friends", or some combination and let the kids run the show.
The moment where McB and Hank are both offended at McB being called Ronald Reagan but for different reasons cracks me up every time.
The hyphenated last name for the wife is GOLD 😂
Yeah. It is like a tattoo, pronouns in the bio, or leather jacket - it says a lot about a person.
My dad was my buddy but also knew when and how to lay down the law. He'd kick it with me and we'd watch Spinal Tap together and he'd occasionally let me sip his beer, but was also always transparent with me and made sure I understood discipline and respect. When I got too cocky he'd make me do yard work ALL DAY. Like, chopping wood and hauling brush and picking up trash in the neighborhood. But he also made sure to talk with me so I understood why he punished me like that: to teach me humility, discipline and respect. Just because he loved and supported me as a individual never meant he didn't take his duty as a parent seriously--if anything that's exactly why he took it seriously. He respected my space and agency but guided me with authority when i veered off course. That's love. That's what kids need.
im liking because i agree. (like this comment if you agree)
I think this episode is more relevant now than ever. So many of my friends and other people of my generation think that they can just let their kids pretty much call the shots. You are doing your kid a massive disservice if you're not being firm with them. They have to learn early that the world doesn't revolve around them.
Yup and then those kids grow up and never move out or plan to.
so true. its fine to have fun with your kids but at the end of the day your their parent not their friend.
I mean, it's one thing if you are less strict, it's another if you let your kids have inappropriate parties.
it's about a balance not too strict, not too lenient
Strict parents are shit.
It looked to me both kids were having fun at said ice cream parlor
Love how the kids are having fun in the background cuz it really do be like that
As a teacher, I agree with Hank. Kids need limits, discipline, rules. They yearn for them. Kids with no limits will be lost, confused, feeling leaderless. Which leads straight to adults with a lot of issues with self-control, including addictions of all sorts. Michael, aka Aaron the dog, already looks like he's well on his way to alcoholism and long-term unemployment, unable or unwilling to keep down a steady job.
“Aaron the dog”
Lol, you mean “hair of the dog” which refers to drinking early in the morning (what the parents were about to do)
Parents like Hank create resentment and a one-way ticket to a retirement home once the child is old enough lmao
Aaron the dog 😂
@@HatredInTheFlesh maybe it's different for mexicans but we take care of our elderly parents and grandparent they would have to be completely jerks and abuse us for me to even put my parents in a home
Same could be said if your to strict on a child they get rebellious because they want a little bit of freedom and that's understandable I just think being to strict causes series problems
"Ya, don't call him that."
“Those who spare the rod hates their child but those who love them will be careful to discipline them.”
"You just have to be Bobby's friend"
You mean like all the other kids in school? Just another of the same thing he can make over and over again instead of being the thing he needs. A child only gets one mother and one father.
this reminds me of that American Dad episode where Stan acts like these parents to Steve (though I think American Dad did it better)
Shrugs. Yeah only one mother and one father. So if children aren't friends with them, they don't have other parents to turn to. Growing up is about learning from mistakes in a safe environment. It's important for parents not to overstress over the small stuff. Your child is going to drink alcohol, way before the legal age, they're likely to have seks, and are going to get in touch with drugs. It's important that they can talk to you about these things. The key word here is "talk", not being forced to listen to a speech. Yeah there should be hard lines that they can't cross, and when they do you're going to have to take the reigns for them. Taking away a lot of their autonomy. But don't do that before it has gone wrong.
Mega Blade Chronicles American dad did do it better
Mega Blade Chronicles I disagree; American Dad was a whole let less subtle, and basically told the moral instead of showing it
Dude it's a show.
This show was so great because it was relatable, growing up, we all knew someone's parents that were like this lol.
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I wish I knew someone's parents like these
I knew a few for sure. These kids at the time would ask me why I had a curfew. I was like what?
@@senister14Most of those kids didn't turn out so well.
@landbeforetimeee not entirely true. Some kids can still do great things, like those college drop outs who end up starting big tech companies.
you don't realize how good of a dad hank is until you see him compared tp someone else
Cotton said it best. He might have been a lousy dad but Hank made Bobby so, Cotton at least got something right raising Hank.
A very similar situation to this happened to me when I was younger. When I was a kid, I thought my mom was the worst for acting like Hank... as an adult, I don't think I could agree more with this message.
The law good parents lay down isn't something you appreciate until you yourself are an adult.
I love how Hank is clearly the moral centre of the show. So many comedies are mindlessly wacky, but Hank is a genuinely good guy with a decent head on his shoulders, and the comedy comes from his interactions with people like these negligent parents.
Maybe to a conservative sheeple
@@HatredInTheFlesh LOL. What is it with Leftists projecting their insecurities onto regular people? We get it, you're sheep, we've been telling you that for decades, feel free to admit it to yourselves so everyone can get on with their lives.
he's just as bad, just on the other end of the scale
@@hazardeur he often over reacts, has anger issues, and experiences frequent culture shock, but he is still tolerant, and willing to change his views, genuinely cares for his family, and is clearly the moral center of the show.
He's a well developed small town moderate conservative character, not an extreme stereotype.
@@HatredInTheFlesh Hank is clearly shown to be the voice of reason throughout the entire show. He’s not just seen that way by the “conservative sheeple”
My parents were cool with me drinking at home after i turned 18... in Peru
but if i ever talk to my dad like that, he'd kick my ass
and he'd have the right to do so
Hank is such a buzz kill. That is why I love him! :D
*Hank refuses to have sex with Debbie*
"No one refuses Debbie Grund!"
"Well, I just did."
The funny thing is, he might not even have been thinking of what Debbie was _really_ after.
He's the good kind of buzz kill
:D(like)
Parents don’t need to be their kid’s friend. They make their own friends
To all the comments saying "if your kids are at home then you fail as a parent," get real. What's wrong with letting junior stay home and save up to put a nice down payment on a house as opposed to moving out like others and renting a shoebox in the sky? There's no way junior can afford a decent house today off the bat, so give him a chance to save up. Same people forcing their kids out wonder " why doesn't little jimmy visit us more often?"
Exactly. My brother struggles academically, and my dad didn't think he would even graduate from High School. He worked hard despite his limitations and did so. Now, he is going at a slower pace, but he is 27 going for his bachelor's degree in college, working two jobs, and living at home while looking for someone to marry. At home, he is able to help my parents as the only sibling still living there, saves a ton of money from rent, etc., and is now has a lot of money in his savings. My whole family is very close, and we are willing to help each other financially if we have the means, and so far, the brother that struggles the most probably works the hardest and is prepared to help anyone else in the family financially at a moment's notice. I am a CS major living with my wife and almost graduated with no debt, so I can start making money right away. My oldest brother lives farther away with his family and makes the most money but has the largest amount of debt, so he can help more in the long term once loans are paid off. Everyone has reasons for why they might live at home, away, etc., so I hope people don't just go around assuming my brother is immature for living at home. He's a hard worker and more ready to be married and a parent than even I am.
You're correct but you missed the point of the clip.
If they're working and/or going to school (and no, I do not think going to school full time warrants one to not work at least part time), then that is fine. I'd probably charge menial rent but there is no shame in living with your parents if you're trying to get on your own. The kid in this clip said outright he's not going to work.
wuts a junior
That’s what I did, but I didn’t live at home for free. I paid my mom rent, took care of myself helped with utility bills, helped fix her car when she needed it and helped with the upkeep of the house, and now I own my own house.
I just noticed that they do both wear glasses.
Better to have Hank as a dad than those hipster alcoholics
Not really. Strict, overly conservative parents suck. They then wonder why the kids drop contact with them or throw them in retirement homes at the first chance.
Facts
“Hipster alcoholics”? I think they’re more like “40-year old adolescents”.
@@gcHK47 the wife dresses like she's holding on to that las scrap of youth for sure. The way the dad dresses reminds me of Charlie Sheen in Two and a Half Men
honestly would hate to have either dont want someone helping me make horrible choices to ruin my life but choking your child with rules and judgment is a quick trip to the retirement home
I'll give my piece here. It's okay to be laid back with your kid, but laying down boundaries/rules and keeping your responsibilities as a parent is still integral to raising your children.
I didn't like how my father treated me when I was young. It made me afraid of him back then. Now, me as a 20 year old, it's hard for me to get along with him. We just don't mesh well together, but I still have a level of respect of him as my father. In contrast to say, my grandfather from my mother's side, he rarely ever raised his voice towards his kids and for the most part let them did what they wanted, but was never afraid to disagree with something he considered was wrong and at worst gave them the "talk". I respect him for that. My uncles turned out great and my cousins are, well, fairly normal people who get along well with their dads.
There's a difference between raising your kids to have zero discipline in their adulthood, raising them to become loving and respectable parents, raising them to only visit you out of obligation, and raising them for them to call once every few months or even never.
"Peggy, call the police" 😂😂😂
The amount of people in the comments who don't get it is remarkable. The key is a balance between discipline and fun. Too much of either will be your downfall - If you have no fun, your life will feel empty, but if you have no responsibility, you'll never do anything with your life. It's super obvious, though maybe moreso because I've seen the full episode..
the real lesson here is that in the big picture,they are both wrong...its important to give a child discipline and reasonable boundries...but its also good to develop a relationship on a meutral level,that can lead to your child identifying more with you and can even lead to understanding and respect..and its good to give them more freedom to make thier own decisions and mistakes (sometimes there is no better teacher than natural cause and effect)..of course you can take that to far as well (as shown in the episode)
you can be their friend AND thier parent...the key is a healthy balance in both methods
The way I saw it with my own dad is that he had a rules, boundaries, and discipline, but he still allowed me to make mistakes so that I could learn from them. A good parent knows not to victimize their children and believes in their children's ability to grow by letting them fall a bit but never over the rail into something far more serious. That's my opinion and experience, but just in case people misunderstand. Kids need to be allowed to understand things for themselves by living the consequences of their own choices, but never would I allow my child to do something I know--from my experience-- would bring only sadness and grief such as an addiction. No one should have to fight with that. It's like an endless hole you try to climb out of it. It should always be prefaced with teaching, sharing of experiences, and other pieces of wisdom to help them make good decisions for themselves, not make the decisions for them.
Hank isn't wrong. Hank has tried to connect with Bobby but the two are different with different interests. But he does have good moments, like when Bobby hits the deer Hank tells him good job. Or when Bobby wrote in the book about the Alamo, Hank doesn't punish him and takes him to Six Flags instead.
@@Kaboomboo well they did bond in the last episode together
I was told that a pal will let you do whatever you want and say whatever you want to hear, but a friend will be honest with you.
@@Kaboomboo True. but maybe just like how Hank tries to show Bobby thinks he's interested in that he can take an interest in with Bobby's interested in
Then there was my childhood. 18 straight years of:
"Mom, can I.."
"No."
Kudos to Hank and Peggy for at least letting the kids spend time together under supervision.
Imagine having to ask permission AFTER 18, knowing you ARE 18 and can do things yourself, and STILL need to ask.
@@ArynBendah when did he say he asked permission after 18? Year 0 until the day he turns 18 is 18 years.
@@lukerose4166 he didn't.
I know someone who did that.
If they were true hipsters, they'd at at least like the ice cream parlor ironically....
this was before hipsters and their skinny jeans came into the world
Holy fuck your profile picture is creepy. Stop basing your life around a fetish. I don't know what kind of trauma made you think it's ok to devote your free time to pursuing a fantasy as a cartoon toddler but it can't possibly be healthy... especially something that is basically the same thing as being a pedophile. Get help. Leave whatever online communities you are in. You are sick.
Mc B: “you know it’s not to late for you to have this kind of relationship with Bobby.”
Hank: “yes it is.”
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As what a wise gorilla from American Dad once said,
_Friends don't have to worry about discipline or setting an example. It's easy to be a friend, that's why kids have lots of them. But a father, kids only get one of those. Who are you to take that away from them?_
As time goes by I find myself relating more and more to Hank Hill. Love how the show makes fun of hipsters and other assorted douchebags.
"Assorted douchebags." I love it.
This show is a healthy reminder that there's people from all walks of life that need their asses kicked
The show also made fun of Hank. I guess you ignored that part. People are different, and laughing at each other doesn't make one side better.
The show makes fun of Hank the most. The Bronson’s from what I can tell just act like a typical 2000s California sitcom family, like two and a half men.
My favorite part of this show is the caricatures of liberal/bureaucratic/“California” type people. Like this couple, Bobby’s “drain the quarry” teacher, and the child protective services guy
Best line there was when Hank protested the name Ronald Reagan because he considers it an honourable name.
$10 the older brother became an addict and the daughter became a cam girl.
This is one of the best Hank episodes. My man shines the whole time.
You don’t need to be friends with your kids, they already have friends. But they only have one set of parents.
King of the Hill was ahead of its time.
Hank is a disciplinarian parent, he never laid hands on Bobby, he can be irritating , but he knows whose boss. I understand why some parents want want be the kids friends, but you can't raise friends.
"We're just here so Tad can use the toilet."
I guess I can relate, I use the Starbuck across from my construction site to take my dumps.
Lol, nice! 👍
damn bobby killin it on the piano
"dont call me that" "yeah, dont call HIM that"
At least their daughter turned out to be a good kid.
Which is a miracle considering who her parents are. I was surprised she wasn't more spoiled.
Dude me being Latino has zero to do with what I said. It's just common sense. Parents who spoil their children raise spoiled adults. Which is why I said I was surprised that their kid came out decent. Pay attention.
They ease up too much. They have a grown man for a son who still lives with his parents, has no job, and doesn't even plan on getting one and their parents don't say a word. There's a time to ease up and a time to give your kid a kick in the ass. I'm not saying Hank's mode of parenting is any better. He stifles Bobby a lot. But at least he's a much better disciplinarian. As a parent, you have to know how to strike a balance with your kids. Otherwise, they can either grow too complacent in life and don't amount to anything or grow to resent you. I like this scene because of how it represents two extremes of parenting.
Have you seen her lately??
@Cali God I dont want to be that guy but Republican originally were all for immigrants and the Democrats were against immigration it didnt star changeling until the last 20 years
Be a parent to your kid(s), not their “friend”. Being their friend doesn’t do them any favors for later in life. Kids can’t grow up to be adults if they are raised by parents who don’t act in that manner.
Agree, I have a friend like that. His parents are his friends and everything you said is true his behaviour wise.
Trivia: McB's shirt is the same model used for Cotton Hill's regular shirt and Bill's Red shirt.
That ice cream parlor honestly looks really cute. I love the Amish style to it.
"A brick wall of rules, limitations and discipline". Sounds like my father. I had all that and I was prohibited from doing anything that could get me into trouble...
Fuck, man. I bet you couldn't even go outside during the summer months, huh?
"You ruined the kids night." Well, he's not wrong there. The parents are too free like. But he did indeed ruin the kids night.
Honestly, I think there’s a middle ground between Hank’s over-parenting and the Bronson’s under-parenting.
Why can't you have a brick wall WITH a door in it? Or a couple doors. Just so you can demarcate that there are options, but there are some paths that were never meant to be taken and there's a reason they've been walled off.
I think this demonstrates an issue with Hank that is also shared with a lot of traditional conservatives -- while they do have points, they have trouble constructively expressing themselves and understanding the other party, and wind up positioning themselves in absolute reaction, digging their heels in and turning themselves into the complete antithesis of the ideas they identify as dangerous or destructive, which is no way to communicate, convince, and persuade. He can't even convince his own naive wife, and can't even comprehend the fact that she isn't taking his side, despite the many, many, MANY times throughout the show Peggy has been shown to be naive. He expects her to be unquestioningly on his side without needing to explain things to her, which honestly is a pretty big problem for Hank's character, he can't or won't see this pattern of behaviour. This is another problem I've seen with conservatives -- they take the ideals they see as common sense for granted and consistently fail to see disagreement. They, too, have a sort of utopian ideal, that everyone 'just understands' these things.
Hank's concerns are very real and very valid -- but he doesn't know how to argue for pragmatism properly in the face of utopian idealists that oppose his point of view, and instead winds up looking like 'the bad guy'. It's the curse of being a simple man who has common sense.
"How do you think your son's going to make it in the world after you're gone, if he doesn't know how to work or hold down a job? I can't raise my son this way. I refuse to put him at the risk of being caught unprepared in a world that won't care about your or my high-minded ideals. And don't think I don't want to be his friend -- but I've got the patience. I'm looking forward to the day when he's grown up into a fine young man that I can see as my equal. But by God, I've got a responsibility to make sure he reaches that point, or I've failed as a parent, and worse, I've failed my son. I can't tell you how to raise your own son, but I can tell you that I see the writing on the wall. And one father to another, I'd never wish that kind of despair -- the despair of failing your own family -- on anyone."
Society would be a lot better I think, if more people were able to communicate their point like that. It's a message that for too long has not been in our society, nobody knew how to speak the words. "Responsibility is important" isn't just something you can say as a truism, you have to make the case WHY it is, and why they're not a monster for promoting it -- and much the contrary, that they're doing so out of good faith AND compassion. The first person who can articulate it has surely won many hearts, and reminded us why it's such a cornerstone of a healthy society.
It's unfortunate that rhetorical skills in this regard are imbalanced.
It's the problem with american culture in general, transgression is worshipped, Some transgressors are more famous then the most famous vets, If you don't rebel against a precieved mainstream notion, Not matter how pragmatic or reasonable it is, You're a considered deficient, Naive, Foolish, Or downright evil.
I've had americans lecture me on how drugs are okay and i was brainwashed by big pharma, Even though i am not an american.
America would be a better place if we had more parents like Hank.
Not really. Hank is anti-freedom.
@God of Death what does that even mean?
Any parents I’ve encountered who try to be friends with their kids instead of disciplinarians ended up with fucked up kids.
I’m glad my parents gave me rules and weren’t scared to give me a whack when I needed one.
@@oilersridersbluejays You don’t have to be friends with your kids. Also, anecdotal evidence isn’t a valid argument. Plenty of kids with disciplinarian parents end up being scumbags.
@@HatredInTheFlesh ding dong your opinions are wrong
No it wouldn't. Kids are not all the same, they will not all thrive with the same type of parent.
I love how McB and Hank both took the Regan comment as an insult, but for different reasons! 😆
Hank's face at 1:06 priceless 😂😂😂
Nothing feels weirder than teenagers being raised by parents who think they’re teenagers.
"Nothing they say makes any sense." LOL
That's probably the most deep cartoon i have ever seen.
uhhh no theres deeper. But a good show none the less
Well, a decent number of the writers *were* Harvard graduates.
@@EpicFableBean There are like 7 levels of irony to your comment and I don't think you understand one of them.
No one gonna notice how Bobby can play a piano like a professional
It's a piano that plays itself. He's not actually touching any of the keys, he's just messing around as if he were playing it.
@@KuraiChanZ lol, a bunch of people in this comment section don’t seem to understand that.
I have to rewatch this episode. These parents clearly associate discipline with only negative reinforcement, when in reality, positive reinforcement (rewarding good behavior) is more powerful.
Hank can be too uptight but Mr. Bronson is far too laid back to where he is fine with his son not working. At the end of the episode he wasn't even going to let Bobby hold hands with Jordan but it was that moment he lightened up a bit and allowed it. Like damn dude. Chill out. They're not having sex or anything.
It's okay to set rules and limitations but don't go overboard. Being laid back is fine but don't be irresponsible about it either.
Parents aren’t supposed to be friends. It’s their job to set the line and teach you to respect the line by being a good person. They need to lead by example and ensure their kids know they have their backs, even if they seem stringent. These “parents” are horrible people setting the kids for failure
Yes, thank you for explicitly stating the point of the episode, I never would have understood it without this comment
@@dominantwolf4593 OP didn't say the Bronson's were a good example, just that being too strict (like Hank here) isn't good either. Objectively Hank is a way better parent, we all agree on that, but he should lighten up on Bobby a little.
The reason why strict parents are they way they are, because they were just like their children, and don't want them to make the same mistakes.
People say they forget what it was like to be a teenager. They remember exactly what it was like. That's why they're hard on their own kids.
What's wrong with the ice cream parlor?
@Austin Statin The joke wasn't that it wasn't a modernized place. It was that the kids were being kids, enjoying it because it was age appropriate (so, Hank was right) and the parents, who never matured past high school, were embarrassed to be there.
@Austin Statin You think an early 1800s Ice Cream Parlor fit "the time of the show" - the early 2000s?
Yeah the kids are having a great time. Who doesn't like ice cream, except those who are lactose intolerant.
@@victormelendez2332 oh, they do too, and pay for it after lol
@@CoffeeStain-Music Beat me to it.
That Ronald Reagan line is one of the funniest lines ever written on a tv show, period
Im sorry but I thought the Ice Cream Parlour was cool. Good choice Hank.
No need to apologize. Just keep in mind, this was supposed to take place in the late 90s and plenty of "hip" parents wouldn't want to be caught dead in an "antique store" like that Ice Cream Parlor. I'd like a place like that, but they wouldn't.
Don’t apologize for stating your opinion. that’s weak af
@@akasupaman How do I explain it, but you know when people say sorry not sorry? I was saying it like that, you can't really tell with tone in a comment section.
I think taking your kids to an ice cream parlor is plenty cool. Hell, my parents rarely ever did that for me. I'd love to go out with the family for some ice cream and waffles
@@akasupaman Don't end a statement with 'that's weak af'.
Almost as bad as the parents of the boy who bullies Hank because they let him roam freely without any sense of discipline and punishment.
Dusty old bones, full of green dust!
Unfortunately I know a few parents who want to be their kids friend, not a mom/dad
Being "friends" is not an issue, however, giving your kid whatever he/she wants IS an issue.
I think American Dad touched a bit on this topic.
Being a good parent is both. They need to respect you as a parent, but still view you as on their side, and someone they can talk to like a friend
@@ratso8193
No, they need to talk to you like your a parent.
@@sinoroman I agree 100%,
"Kids can have as many friends as they want, but they only get one set of parents. Don't take that away from them."
Are we not gonna talk about how flame Bobby is on piano
I imagine those two as incredibly experimental in the bedroom. Good for Mick.B.
For those wondering it's not impossible to be friends with your kids and be disciplinary
Look, I'm not against parents being friendly with their kids, my dad loved to hang out with me and my siblings and joke around with us, but you still need to be able to assert authority and discipline your kids when they do dumb shit.
Didn’t you already comment this?
@@servantofthelivinggod6192 the comment posted twice for some reason cause my internet went shit
Debatable. Everyone has different standards for what constitutes “dumb shit”.
"Don't call *him* that"
Brilliant.
@2:07
McB: “(Sigh)…this place is so uncool.”
Me: “Big talk for a guy wearing a green golf-shirt, khakis, sandals, and driving a green VW New Beetle.”