This BRONY Caused the Worst Massacre in Indiana History | Brandon Hole
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- čas přidán 13. 01. 2024
- A nineteen year old man, after a lifetime of mental health issues, trauma, and examples of violent behavior, grew and festered over the years. Eventually, becoming an obsessed brony isolated from the rest of society, he spiraled completely out of control, leading to one of the worst crimes in the history of the state of Indiana.
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Dude clearly learned nothing about the power of friendship
He had no friends.
The power of warship...guns.
Power of War!
Friendship is tragic
liked because Mr. Bungle
Is this a joke? Literally every single red flag was seen. And this mother did every single thing she could possibly do to warn police, government and mental health professionals.
It’s Indiana. The D student of the north.
The same thing happened with my Son who is similarly disturbed. One time they were having training at his school, a drill to prepare students Incase of an active shooter. The school asked us to talk to our kids and ask them what they would do if a shooter was in the school?
My son's response was that first he would kill the people in the cafeteria, because that's where everyone gathered. I was stunned. I did go to his counselor and the school about it. I was ignored.
When my son found out he threatened me. He told me to never talk to the police or I would be sorry. Guess what,still no help.
My situation has a much better outcome. To spite all my son's problems, he knew how much I love him. He left a few months after he turned 18 and never came back. I think it was because part of him didn't want to hurt me and he didn't think he could stop himself.
I hope he is getting the help he needs wherever he landed. I couldn't do anything else for him. He needed residential care. None of those places take state insurance.
The mother should be sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.
It is a guardians responsibility to ensure their children do not become monsters, as their children are truly the most accurate reflection of themselves.
@@specialforces3114 this take both implies the children don't have full agency over themselves even after they turn 18 AND implies horrible misunderstandings of the psychology of children and parents and their relationships AND tries to stick the punitive arm of the justice system in where it has no business being! 0/10
@@fromage_collage compared to Illinois Missouri and Ohio? You must eat crayons
A crime so easily preventable its insane. The dude had more red flags than a Soviet military parade, but somehow still was able to commit such an atrocity because the system failed hard.
A country can either prevent many of these incidences, or it can give its citizens easy and affordable access to guns. It cannot do both.
@@MrBell-iq3sm You couldn't have missed the point ANY further than you have... Congratulations... YOU are the reason the country needs guns...
@@AnthonyGladbach Instead of pretending you just made a great point that debunked mine, you could make an actual point, you know.
@@MrBell-iq3sm He's saying that because of people who are so quick to give away freedom for the sake of security, like you, is the very reason the founding fathers ensured US citizens may own firearms.
Because the 2nd ammendment is not about hunting or sports or whatever, it's to ensure US citizens always have the means of revolution at their disposal to escape tyranny when they deem it right to do so. You threatening to take away this tool of revolution shows that you are anti-revolutionary and therefore pro-tyranny and pro-system.
If you may recall, mass shootings are a recent trend that is mainly caused by mental health issues. It is not the 2nd ammendments fault, we've had it for over 200 years without this issue. It is the industrial society that is causing strained mental health and leading people to snap. A better solution is to focus on helping people with mental health issue, or skip treating the symptoms and go for the source, destroy industrial society.
Almost as if they wanted it to happen
Bronies are weird, period.
"Pretty normal upbringing until the age of 3"
Wow... That really says a lot
My OCD manifested as a form of dealing with severe trauma. I can only imagine what happened to a three year old.
@@Catalina-Winemixer This whole story would be a dark comedy if it weren't real. Authorities ask him if he's a nazi or visits 4chan. Let him go after 2 hours but keep his shotgun. Clinic workers tell everyone he's not likely to kill himself but other people. Turns out he's a postal worker, and dies going postal. Found dead surrounded by pictures of cartoon ponies after ending himself.
@@mr44mag Can you imprison someone, or force them to reside in a mental facility, or otherwise constrain them legally if they've been found by medical experts to have a strong chance of harming others? I'm being serious, as this has serious ramifications. Is it legal to institutionalize someone, perhaps for life, because they "might" do something heinous in the future? And if it isn't legal, should it be?
It all started with my little pony 🌈😈
@@toshikotanaka3249 That question deals with issues of punitive medicine, constitutional rights, and state vs federal law. Without a crime having been committed, I do not believe it is lawful to permanently detain a person. Your body being a possession, this already violates unlawful seizure. However, forced treatment is allowed so long as they are an "immediate threat." Might do something in the future is too vague and no it should not be legal.
That poor lady did everything we ask parents of disturbed children to do and yet she was failed at every turn. I hope she's able to find some solace in knowing she did everything in her power and shouldn't hold her self responsible for her sons actions.
My thoughts exactly! I feel so sorry for her
There is only so much to do. I have a special son, he's similar. Angry constantly, doesn't communicate well, sometimes no matter what you do, it ends the same with him. There is VERY little actual help for us parents, as these "professionals " spend 30 minutes with our kids. They don't have to fight the children's tendencies 24 hours a day, sleeping maybe 2 hours a night, day after day for years on end
Wtf are you on about her final remark about the grieving of her son speaks volumes to how useless she was as a parent, she failed him at every turn and tried to pass responsibility to everyone but herself, the state and drugs are not her sons parents, her behaviour was child like and she didn’t want to take any accountability.
Thank you! My thoughts exactly. Nobody listened to her...she tried her best.
That's because there isn't a lot of help for parents with children who have behavioral issues. Despite all the commercials & hype on the internet stating the opposite. If the problem can't be fixed with a pill, then there aren't many places parents can turn to for help.
"I grieve those people more than I will ever grieve you." Cold as ice, and to her own son. Then again, all things considered, I can't say I'm surprised.
I said the same exact thing,
Another thing I noticed he had absolutely no friends, not one friend was interviewed or spoke of for this Biography
I can't blame her in the slightest, she did everything she possibly could have in her situation and he still turned out to be a neo-nazi mass murderer
Back in the early 90's, post office shooting rampages were so common that the term "going postal" was coined.
Hence the games
Nah, that started in the 70's. It was reported on more heavily in the 90's.
There were some heavily reported events in the US but the numbers show that retail is much worse for workplace shootings
The 1986 post office shooting in Oklahoma is where it came from.
I regret nothing
That guy looks the exact same at 19 as he did at age 10
Some people are young looking
@@EvaSchroeder-lb8lx some people remain mentally small and it shows in their face.
Physiogamy is for real
hurting people out of jealousy or rage is low testosterone behaviour, as is not changing during puberty.
what I'm saying is, this would have been prevented if he had superior genetics.
This was one of the most preventable crimes in history
Oh absolutely. So much negligence
@bunnydontlikeu yup, and all they want to do is blame the guns. They should Blame the people involved
@@geehadarillo1 that part
21 States, plus D.C. have Red Flag Laws, including the State I live in. A Red Flag Law, is when a someone in the suspected person’s life, files a petition before the court to, with significant evidence, remove gun permits, & guns from a citizen, where there’s risk of them hurting themselves or someone else, due to mental health issues. They are not permitted to own, or have in their possession, a gun or a firearm for one year. Studies show it is reducing gun violence, where these law’s are enacted. The only problem, is most States, need to really inform the public, since a lot of citizens have no idea they exist.
@@gaylegoodman9097 Oh you mean the same type of laws that got Duncan Lemp, a responsible firearm owner killed?
"why this is the case is unclear as horses aren't even people" laughed my ass off at that. idk if you meant to be funny but it was a banger
Wow, he somehow managed to get a job in 2020 of all years and with all those mental issues? Kid never knew how lucky he was.
Ha!
I have adhd and autism and its hard for me to get a job
My first boyfriend's mother was one of the victim's. It was her birthday and she was suppose to be off that day but came in anyway. She was clocking out and was on her way out to leave when she was murdered. Beautiful lady she was. This destroyed all the victim's families. This could have been prevented.
So sad. May she rest in peace. These are the stories you never really hear about after a mass shooting. Hope he’s doing okay.
I'm sorry to hear about that. May she rest in peace and I hope he's doing better
Proof? 🤔
Which one was she? Stop ✋️ making stuff up 🤬😤
omg, dude im so sorry. Terrible.
I remember working at FedEx when this happened. The manager pulled us off the line to tell us what had happened, then we ceased work to wait in the breakroom for further updates about the situation. We were all upset that the company didn’t allow us to have our phones (even though all the workers there had their phone on them despite the damn rules) and the manager had said “Well it’s the rules, we didn’t know this would happen ever.” Shit you not, 3 people quit on the spot and left the warehouse. Such a depressing company to slave away for.
I work for Estas Logistics maintenance hub. Nobody is allowed to bring a smartphone nor a regular cellular phone to work. It can be grounds for termination. The strange part is, Estas logistics maintenance hub is located in an extremely rural area. There is no cellular signal there for about ten kilometers before the complex. Even going there, there are big areas without service. Yet people bring their cellular phones in and get warned a few times then fired. Some fired were some of the best technicians and mechanics I have seen. Of course some were complete idiots as well. I shortly moved to the 3rd shift after starting there. Though, I am the only person in the huge complex, except for the entry guard, it was clearly stated that no cellular phone would be tolerated at work. If it was seen in a security camera I would receive a written reprimand. Three reprimands and I am fired, and I though I am now the head 3rd tier mechanic there. I do not even understand why anybody would even bring a cellular phone into work when there is no service around the area. I do not even own a cellular phone at all because there is so little service around here. The pockets that have service are nowhere near worth having a mobile phone here. But people manage it. I really do not get the relevance people have put on cellular phones as far as having them and not allowed at work. But the again, I do not have one.
That’s corporate for ya. They don’t care about employees even after tragedies happen
Tell me about it. Worked for them for years and nothing I could say would change their minds. I introduced dozens of logical contradictions to their arbitrary robot rules from corporate and their response was always "doesn't matter, rules are rules" even if they don't make any sense at all. God I hate corporations. Heaven forbid you use your brain in there. They really do just want robots for workers.
Used to work for FedEx and some older worker had a heart attack and died on the spot. They stopped the factory for 15-30 minutes and started the lines again. All they did was let us out and hour or two early. FedEx sucks.
He also told the line manager his chest was hurting earlier and was told to work till break!
Suing the manufacturers and dealers is stupid.
This is 100% Government's failure.
You don't Sue Ford if a Brony uses a Truck to hurt people do you?
No... You blame the people who said Wow! This person is dangerous... Well... Have a nice ride home.
Yeah, I lose all sympathy and respect for people who sue manufacturers for the acts of lunatics.
Guns are specifically used for hurting people while cars are used for traveling
@@bub3124 Cars are specifically used for killing as many people as possible at high speeds.
@@bub3124what about hunting? Target practice? Skeet shooting at the Olympics?
Car accidents take more lives... should they be sued?
its insane how a kids show about friendship and being kind manages to be one of the things that absolute lunatics somehow become enamored with
I think it has something to do with the innocence of such a nice friendly world that in its perfection on innocents creates a eutopia that is poisoned by the realities of life with such things as war, crime, injustice that turns something they love/fixated with to a lie and they must cleanse or leave this terrible world to obtain that innocence
@@MrHort55 somebody check in on this guy
..... Hort has a point. Maybe we need to check some IQ levels instead?
@@kevlarvest7375 what about profile pictures/avatars?
@@PEACEOUTPAT Yup, cause that definitely proves someone's intelligence.
You got me 👏... 👏... 👏...
I work at one of the largest “Fedup” warehouses in the country. When this happened workers were not allowed to have their cellphones within the building, not for efficiency or safety; but rather because the company does not want anyone videotaping and whistle blowing on the many many osha work violations. After this shooting, we still have to keep our cellphones within lockers that are in the parking lot outside of security. The “added safety measure” they offered in the event of another shooting was adding deadbolts to the bathroom doors. I am deeply saddened for the lives lost in this tragedy. There are many hardworking elderly employees within the Sikh community who work to help their children and grandchildren. My heart goes out to each of them ♥️
Carry your phone. Fuck their rules. That's not a safety measure until the doors are made bulletproof too.
@@case8037I think they need their job. ;)
People love to hate on unions and I look at my union dues sometimes and feel the same war but reading things like this make me happy to be part of one.
Companies shouldn't be allowed to have "no phones" policies. But then all corporate and government should be held to a transparency standard. OSHA exists for a reason. Big Brother wants to put surveilance cameras up in public to spy on people, but not inside big warehouses and factories? That's ass backwards.
They make you put your phones in lockers in the damn parking lot?? How is that even allowed in today's world where everyone has cellphones and what if they have someone needing to contact them in an emergency? People have children, elderly parents etc. Anything could come up. Is it not unionized?? If so your union is TERRIBLE.
Say the line FBI!
😮💨"The shooter was known to us."
This is one of those crimes where EVERYTHING was visible, but somehow, tragedy still struck.
Really, the Fed Ex's policy to not let people have their phones may have lead to more deaths than it could've been.
I understand it, but people in this sick and dangerous world should have their phones. And grown adults should just know to not be irresponsible with phones. Better yet, people shouldn’t be driven to the point where they think killing many people is “okay”.
The government does NOT care about you or your health. They’ve proven that millions of times.
@@TheDrugFreeThrasher No government does.
If they allow people their phones, not only will productivity drop probably quite sharply but people will get into seriously avoidable work-related accidents more often. European studies (Europe was at the forfront of the cell-phone revolution while at the same time there was no cellphone legislation/etiquette yet.) prove this.
Often times, parents will see the red flags and stay silent until it's too late.
It's sad that when his mother did all the right things, nobody listened.
In that case, its not the Mothers fault. Its the police and the rules about owning guns. More controls and registration could be helpful, but i dont know how and good it could be.
"I grieve those people more than I will ever grieve you." Whew, but I agree.
With how she treated him it sounds like she woudln't grieve him if he just did himself in.
Cold as ice. And to her own son. Damn.
I'm thinking she was so sick of his shit that yeah, being rid of him was a relief. There comes a point where the problem being your own kid or sibling, parent etc just doesn't matter. Plus, she had tried to get people to realize he was a time bomb and dangerous.@@Jaceblue04
She treated him fine and tried to help him. He attacked her with knives.
thats what they want you to think.... @@kurdtacolbain731
Holy crap, this is the first ive ever heard of a "suicide if you leave me" threat where the guy actually wasnt just lying to manipulate the spouse.
I’ve heard similar stories before. Very sad situations
The problem is that women do it for attention, whereas a man is serious
@@patrickwilliamson29you sound delusional
It's more common than you'd think. Mostly unhinged people.
@@patrickwilliamson29 stop projecting about your woman problems.
I don’t think Applejack is into the whole mass murder suicide thing
No she’s definitely not. 😂
Tf the weapon/magazine manufacturers getting sued for? They didn’t do shit😂😂
They have the most money to suck out
They put a deadly weapon in the hands of a homicidal Nazi...
Unlike many of the cases we see, his mom did everything she could. She had no help.
Comments like these bother me… why is it the state’s responsibility to help you fix your child that you did a horrible job raising?! It’s not. You were a neglectful horrible parent now your kids a monster. How is that the states fault exactly?! Maybe if you weren’t drinking smoking and using drugs while pregnant he might have had a chance…
@@goodcitizen-ft9bgyou clearly didn’t pay attention to the video. His mom tried to get him help multiple times. There are cases like this where someone is just born absolutely messed up in the head and are beyond help.
@@endhunter569wasn't born that way. Pretty sure knowing his father killed himself and the circumstances of why and how, probably blamed his mother and it had an effect on him as a young child
no she was pretty bad
She destroyed the father's life and the son's
I was on a job hunt at the time and applied to this location because I heard from one of my previous managers that it was good for introverts. I was initially irritated that they didn't get back to me, not so much as a rejection email, but in hindsight, I lucked out.
I need a job like that. I had to quit jobs because too many morons kept telling me conflicting information about the job and I was getting yelled at by the manager all the time for doing nothing wrong other than listening to my coworkers. I got sick of it. It's so hard to find jobs where you can be on your own and they say "go to this place and do this thing" and leave you to do it.
@MrWolfSnack yeah...I hate thst shit...managers who think they got god-like powers...
🇨🇦 We should really post more voices & videos about needing email (especially for all social media) & just being ignores anyways
Speaking from first hand experience, court-ordered therapy/counseling is about as effective as trying to mow a rich guy's lawn with one pair of tweezers. The thing about counseling is you have to actively want it to work, and being told by some judge who doesn't even know you that you HAVE to do it will make any teenager resistant, especially one with issues like the guy in the video.
Yeah, I also thought about that.
In my opinion, a big factor in here is, that nothing was really consequential.
Like you either pull through with it completely, putting him in a psych ward
and taking the guns and internet away.
Or you let him roam free. I honestly don't think he would have gotten to the point if left completely on his own.
I've seen teenagers like them and trying to enforce boundaries on them, but failing to do so,
only makes stuff much worse.
The system failed this guy hard and eight innocent people are dead because of it. This is one of the most infuriating cases I've ever seen.
The mom 100% at fault. This kid needed a father who was willing to raise this kid into a man. The mother, did nothing to remove guns from the house. The kid is a coward but had more power over the mother that tells you what kind of parent she is. Plus the male in her life killed himself. What does that tell you what about her parenting skills...even partner skills.
@@Canadianvoice " Plus the male in her life killed himself. What does that tell you what about her parenting skills...even partner skills"
So you're saying that a woman wants to leave a relationship and the mans says that if she does, he'll commit suicide. She decides to leaves anyway therefore she's has horrible relationship skills? It sounds like you're in favor of the woman being a hostage to his unsettling emotional state or else she's judged to have poor partner skills.
@@toshikotanaka3249 she could have gotten help but chose not to expose herself. It's a narcissistic trait. Yes she had to get out of a unhealthy relationship but there's better options to abandonment.
@@Canadianvoice We weren't there and have no idea of the dynamics involved in the relationship.Hindsight being 20/20 it's always easy to say "could have, would have, should have"
@@toshikotanaka3249 Yeah true but if you put a few things together it just doesn't sit right, for example what she said about the stimulus check, notice how she said why didn't they give ME the money? because I pay for the lights, and also went on to insult her son by calling him a mental teenager, why did she phrase it like that? like she could've said something like, my son has mental health problems therefore i dont think hes of sound mind to be making unmonitored purchases in case he harms himself or others, but its almost like she didn't have any empathy for her own son and his mental well being.
It’s refreshing to see a parent actually trying to help their child. It was the rest of the system that failed him. It shouldn’t have been possible for him to buy a gun in the first place! A (recent) history of mental health issues and suicidal ideation should have been a major red flag 🚩
There's a common denominator in this story.
@justinwebber9968 Yeah, and it glows brighter than the Chernobyl Elephant’s Foot last time I checked.
No, it was 100% the mom's fault. She helped him buy a gun, and she ruined her husband's life and her son's life. She was a deeply unfit mother who had no business having a kid.
@@lilyw.719 Spot on.
She shouldn't have taken him away from his dad. That's what messed him up.
Damn, what the hell. unbelievable how no authorities intervened even at mothers' request.
The "authorities" these days are largely unimpressive people who enjoy having control over others. They don't care about helping anyone...just getting a paycheck and telling people "no".
I remember on DeviantArt I saw someone say some of the most vile garbage I've ever heard. This person was picking and attacking vulnerable people, verbally assaulting anyone who talked back. It was truly disgusting stuff. So I was curious what his gallery was like. I expected pictures of death and hurt animals, instead it was of 'My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic' characters. Not drawn in horrific pictures or anything like that either. Shocked me.
I think I ran by a post about that a couple days ago on DA. I don't remenber the username but I did hear that that guy is trouble. Staying well a way from him
How did he assault people if he was on the computer the whole time??
@@IcyFir3902 Did you miss the "Verbally" part?
@@movingtargetproductions5046 no i was mostly focused on “how can he physically hurt people when he’s glued on to the chair looking at the screen”
@@IcyFir3902 you can hurt people verbally. I don't know where you're having the issue :/
he was 19? he looks like hes 12....
Imagine being so attached to a fictional character you think your life has no meaning without them.
Now that's a mental state nobody should be in.
sadly twitter deems that normal
@@TomoyaOkazaki13 I think these days, the new normal is them normalizing right-wing conspiracy nutjob shitshows at hand. Thanks Elon!
Sounds like you're taking about every religion on the planet
@@dansweda712 I mean, like I said, look at Elon's shit specifically. He's been going off the rails ever since he bought the website, if not a bit before that point in time.
@@crazyluigi6664 like you said what? I'm not seeing your reply, CZcams censored it, LoL
When I was a youngfella waaay back when, I was in an "Adolesant Unit" for "difficult" children. There was a young boy there who was exactly the way Brandon was when he was little. He'd fly into these all consuming rages where he'd attack and bite the councilers and shrinks. It was like he had super human strenght, needing 5 or 6 of them to hold him down and calm him. I wonder what type of adult he is.
Sad to say but it sounds like it was the beginning of being institutionalized and he probably didn’t make it out of the system.
They probably gave him electric shocks in ice water full of salt if this was so long ago. @@samsalamander8147
Probably out and just being "normal"
Wow. He looks extremely young for 19 years old. I would have guessed he is only 14-15 years old.
His mom is a real winner, no sarcasm. Never seen a shooters mom straight up say “nope, the victims should be remembered.”
There are no winners.
She was terrible wife is father had commit self deletion
It was a national embarrassment; his mom did, unlike most do, EVERYTHING in her power, and no one listened to her.
She left the kids father and destroyed the family knowing full well the kid's dad was gunna kill himself and leave her son without a father. It was literally her fault.
Especially to not want to be married who uses suicide as a way to threaten and emotionally abuse their significant other
@@jaynederp5236 no stable person would do that. He probably had a lot more problems
@@jaynederp5236Blaming somebody for someone elses decision is embarrassing
A lot of people use suicide to try to manipulate the other person. We don't know what made her leave him, all we know is that they were arguing. Considering he killed himself, he obviously had mental health issues, which of course can be genetic.
This just further convinces me that the FBI wants things like this to happen.
I like to point out, that law enforcement organizations are filled with many people who are socially and politically conservative. Conservative politicians do everything in thier power to give easy access to firearms and to reduce government spending on healthcare, both physical and mental. It’s not the FBI, it’s Conservatism as an ideology that causes stuff like this to happen.
You’d be right. How many times have you heard the phrase “they were on our radar”?
Now you're getting it 👍
las Vegas
@@Rebrn-bk5emOh, it’s beyond that.
The shooter supposedly used an AR, but the firerate was the same as a belt fed M240 machine gun, which is nearly impossible to obtain as a civilian…
OMFG!!! When u described what a Brony is, I literally lost it..because last night, I watched an old episode of Bob's Burgers about adult men who are obsessed with a My Little Pony style show. I can't believe it, because it's so specific and bizarre LMAO. Crazy synchronicities like this happen to me literally every day..😮
People with a clear record of mental health issues should not be allowed to purchase firearms, or weapons of any kind. What the hell is going on in Indiana?
It's a U.S.A. problem, not just Indiana.
So often in these types of cases the parents are oblivious or ignore the signs of severe mental health issues in their kids. (Or they just go buy them a gun!!🤬) This mother saw the signs and tried to get him help multiple times!! I feel the system (hospitals, social workers, and judicial system) failed in so many ways in this case!
Yeah- I can't imagine first having to come to terms with your own child showing these signs and then actively seeking help, even calling the police multiple times, only to have this happen and some people still blame you for it. As if she didn't try to warn everyone and did all she could. He was technically an adult by the end, so it's not like she had full control. Idk what more anyone could expect from her.
This really is mass hysteria. Nobody even considers that taking away the boy's internet access; might have been a good idea. Its like its alien to even suggest that taking the source of his serial killer addiction away would have solved the problem. And its not even that most people are this stupid; ots just that on this particular issue(due to ideology) people shut off their brains. Its kind of like what happens when the topic of abortion comes up. Usually everyone agrees that you can't kill innocent human beings but then we all have to shut our brains off when it comes to aborting babies. Its mass cognitive dissonance.
There is little to no help for these types of situations 😢
Another excellent presentation, Kyle. ❤ Whilst the majority of the comments regarding Sheila and her efforts to prevent this are empathetic and supportive, I'm thoroughly shocked, confused and disappointed at the comments that outright blame her and her parenting. WTF!?? This poor woman tried EVERYTHING in her power to keep this from happening!! Did you all even watch the whole case!!??? 🤯
This guy is essentially Randy Stair with a higher body count. He was also a Brony that shot up his workplace and hoped that he would be reunited in the afterlife with his cartoon waifu.
For whatever reason, a cartoon all about magic horses and the value of friendship attracts a lot of messed up individuals.
I recently went through an almost similar situation with my husband. I thought we were making progress by the day toward a better life together, better lives individually and better mental health for both of us. He was not a brony. He did not turn the gun he stole from me on anyone other than himself. I missed so many indicators that progress was not being made. I have only pain no one should ever face. I was so wrong and now I have the memories of being the most wrong it's possible to be. He had so many problems but my god I miss him every minute of every aching day.
I really love him being so smart that he asked the police to turn his lap top off because he didn't want them to view what was on it. 😂
The rocking back and forth behavior had me questioning if he was on the spectrum, in addition to the OCD and oppositional/defiant syndrome. Yep, turns out that was the case. RIP to all of the victims. Kid got help pretty early on, but still turned into a monster. I lost a parent to suicide as well, so he had my empathy with that, but his actions later had my empathy evaporating really quickly. Just a tragic story, all the way around.
Tragic like an accident or etc, where you can't look away. Miserable.
Wait what? I do that...should I get checked out? (Rocking back and forth)
@@bostonb4kedbeansNot necessarily. On it's own, the rocking is a form of self-soothing. When it combines with a lot of other behaviors, it could be a symptom of a similar diagnosis. I have a few symptoms of OCD, but not enough to justify a diagnosis. I'm also not a doctor; I just work in mental health and with individuals with developmental disabilities (a term we're moving away from), so I'm not qualified to diagnose anyone. It's just something I see a lot of with individuals I support.
@@TheElbowMerchantI was just thinking the same thing. Sounds like he's stemming. My daughter is autistic and she regularly rocks back and forth.
@bostonb4kedbeans I'm no psychology professional, but as someone with ASD, rocking back and forth is just an unconscious soothing technique, so I don't think that in itself is the smoking gun to be diagnosed. For all we know, that behavior could have just come about in childhood and you've found it adequate ever since. Though, if you find yourself doing that out of stress caused by overstimulation or prolonged periods of vague anxiety, I would say that would be something to bring up with a psychiatrist. Remember to trust the professionals with formally diagnosing you and not to self-diagnose based on how you feel. While it is hard to live with the feeling that there's a deeper explanation behind your seeming behavioral inadequacies, the professionals are the ones who have been formally trained to identify the symptoms properly.
Man, i remember the MLP craze and the brony era, and being one after some friends got me into it and it quickly became a comfort show that has some sentimental value personally as it holds a lot of fond memories with friends at the time. While i wasnt crazy obsessed with it like this guy, i still have and cherish some of the figurines and stuff some friends have gifted me. As someone who had their own mental struggles and dark days, the show was a great way to put me in a good head space and make me feel better, i just wish it couldve done the same for Brandon. Its a shame that nowadays the term "Brony" will go down in infamy nowadays because of cases like this and other degeneracy like pedophilia and whatnot that bloomed from the community over the years. I feel sorry for the mother and the victims' families who suffered this tragedy. Just an entire sad situation overall 😩
Yeah the bronies have that stigma because some are degenerates... But you can say that about any fandom,but because public thinks it's weird we still get bashed...
Think about a killer who likes football and has their jerseys... no one will link that
It's still my comfort show and it upsets me that the word brony has such infamy just because a few deplorable people.
@@Top10Dylanyes exactly, it’s a very positive show and fandom for me, I’m still proud to be a brony, I don’t want to let some awful people ruin something that’s helped me so much through with struggles and journey in life, the fandom is still decently huge lots of good people and friends but like any other fandom some bad people as well unfortunately.
Yes it’s helped me so much in my life, I won’t let the bad people in the fandom take away from my interest and how much the show and fandom has made me feel like I’m part of something while finding life long friends who have helped me and made me feel not alone.
🇨🇦 My sister watched more MLP than I ever did. I saw just 1 episode to see what the media fuss & trend culture was all about
What a horrible set of circumstances for everyone involved. Kid was being tortured by his own mind.
Most bronies are normal people. You'll find messed up folks in every community, the brony fandom is no exception.
Most brownies are NOT normal. There is nothing normal about grown men obsessed with a little girls cartoon. There ARE normal brownies, but it's definitely not most of them.
Holy hell, I was so close to this. I had just left that SmartPost for another job
When the news broke, I spent the entire night calling my friends to make sure they were okay
I never tried to learn anything about the shooter. Until right now, I didn't even know his name.
I appreciate the respectable coverage here
Both the event and the aftermath were a chaotic mess
I live an hour from there and had no idea that event happened. It was never publicized on the TV. I think my packages might have been delayed but I don't remember. I do remember when that one FedEx worker that was an old man froze to death inside the trailer on the loading dock.
I'm Gen X, and I live in Indiana. I honesty feel bad for his mom, I really think she tried her best. People always blame the parents, and yes..his dad's death most definitely affected him. But some people are surely born evil, and all the trauma manifested into this. I really enjoy your content, Kyle! Keep at it!😊
all she had to do was report what he said he would do, if that could have been stopped then it might have gone different the dad i mean who commit suicide
@@lapetusX did you not watch the video? she literally did all she could
@@lapetusX she literally did lmao
EDIT: was thinking GenZer while writing this, which brings me back to that hopeless feeling for our country's future because still havent found any from that generation who thinks the way the OP does, which I discussed below...
It is a breath of fresh air to see someone from your Generation finally have some common sense rationale / thinking when it comes to pretty much the realities of life. Even though you are probably the only GenXer I've personally seen show this educated way of thinking (in comment sections & in videos), it does give me some hope. Because honestly, I've grown pretty much numb to the realization that all young ppl will ever do is blame everyone & everything else for their life's circumstances and more importantly, their actions and NEVER take any type of accountability / responsibility. And although I am numb to it, it still drives me absolutely wild when reading some of these beyond ignorant comments that this particular video is filled with. I am sure there are many more of your brethren that share your intelligence about "reality" & hopefully many can follow your lead, it is just very rare to see these days.
@@GemRippersBot comment spotted. Gen X isn't a young generation.
I live in Indy. I moved here a year after the shooting. This FedEx facility is one of the biggest in the world. They literally bought the old airport.
At the time I was working as a manager and hired a guy who worked that day. He worked full time for Fed Ex. He said he heard the shots, heard them hit the ground, was going to come in for his shift. By some miracle, maybe just him not wanting to get up for five more minutes or whatever. He had not entered the building yet, he was late for work. He thought about it sometimes...got all misty eyed. Had he gone in to work on time, he wouldve been trapped in there with Brandon. He wouldve been killed.
Now INDs FedEx side is huge. The facility is massive, this is not a small facility by even a long shot.
Nice to see the mother wasn't delusional like many are. No "hes a good boy he wouldn't hurt a fly" nonsense she saw things as they really were
I did get help for my son when he was young. Unfortunately, when he became 18 and said, "I can no longer make him go since he is an adult." It's true. Even if he needs it
I'm a FedEx Ground driver almost every truck has the Indiana shooting ribbon on it. I've talked to people before In the terminal, it would be so unimaginably loud. I feel so horrible for the people being trapped the way they were.
I stumbled across your channel by accident, and I'm glad I did. You do your due diligence on every aspect on this video, and this channel. Kudos young man. We will watch you with great interest.
Good job bruddah! I'm from Indiana, this was a terrible tragedy. I am more vigilant nowadays and am now subscribed to your channel. Keep up the great work
Released in 2 hours….LMFAO There is no good mental health help when parents need it.
Lexapro caused my epileptic daughter to have violent outburst and she's never been like that! That shit could make things worse.
I got put on keppra and absolutely destroyed my life in spectacular fashion. I’m on lamictal now which is working great for my seizure.
Pregabalin works great to control my tremors tremendously with no side effects.
Meds are confusing like that, im on lexapro and thankfully its working for me. I hope you were able to find a med that works well for her!
There is a reason why all those meds have 10 pages of side effects. They are serious mild altering drugs that rewrite the way your synapses fire off. It can leave you an over-traumatized mess or turn you into an insane psychopath. Medication is never the answer. You gonna be popping pills for the next 60 years of your life 5 times a day? Don't think so. Take classes and study how medications like those work before just blindly eating them. You will see why they are wrong. Have to learn to overcome your problems and traumas on your own and stop relying on "magic pills" that make you think all your problems are going away when it's just a placebo to maker doctors richer and your brain into an irreversible state of psychosis dependent on those drugs to function.
Yep it's far from an exact science and more like trial and error with finding things that work. The side effects can for sure be really bad.
My family and I are very close with the Blackwell. My oldest brothers played football with her brother, Levi and I are both Marines now. This still hurts everyone of us when people bring it up.
A friend of mine worked there and just got off work before it happened. Im glad hes alive.
The topics are brutal. But your channel is well written and planned out. You make it Very easy to list to the filth of society. Thank you for your work
This definitely could've been prevented 😢
I feel so bad for the father
The fact a highly unstable individual can legally go buy an assault rifle is utter madness.
I feel so bad for this kids mother. She did everything she possibly could have done to prevent this from happening. Warning the authorities, and trying to take action in the home, calling the cops on him, sending him to mental health clinics, psychiatrists, etc. The part at the end where she says "I miss those people, and grieve more for those people then I ever will for Brandon". That really says something about how big of a piece of shit that kid was, if his own mother speaks about him like that
Maybe he wouldn't have dome it if his mother actually loved him rather than treat him like a problem hos entire life and throw him away
He's like that because of the mother. Gave him no love and told him he was crazy. So he manifested into it.
@@pestislupus sounds like a his problem
Horses aren't even people?!
My whole life is a lie
Neigh,their wrong lad.
I worked right down the street at the fedex IND hub when this happened. I remember everyone texting me asking if I was OK. Luckily, I worked days. Between this and the mass shooter at my mall in greenwood (the one that was stopped by a citizen), I now carry every day. Also, side note: fedex never had any kind of memorial, moment of silence, or even a damn memo over this. Just went on business as usual. Terrible company.
This is heartbreaking 😭
Being a brony's got nothing to do with it, kid was a broken toy to begin with... and all the flex tape, bandaids and super glue in the world was never gonna fix him.
His dad was sick, so was he. It's sad.
Ok
His dad had his child stolen from him. It's one of the most evil things someone can do. The mother killed the dad, and then she has the audacity to be mystified as to why her son hates her and grew up with mental issues. Unbelievable lack of accountability
@@rcco4556 He killed himself.
@@assassindelasaucisse.4039 because of her.
@@creamley1851 His doing, his choice.
I feel so bad for the mom. She was doing everything she could to prevent this and nobody did anything.
The mom didn't do anything to support him. She never got him counseling. She never got him medicated. She even knew he saw his father hanging dead and she didn't take him to therapy. He got no help.
@@vexusvexed Plus, she left him unsupervised at a young age on the internet.
She did not do everything she could do.
@@vexusvexed Have you ever dealt with a severely disturbed loved one? There is nothing you can do! Once they turn 15-16 they’re informed, by their own DOCTORS, they no longer have to comply with anything medical and it’s up to them what they do. And, she DID do what she legally could!! She pulled him from school to homeschool him and had counselors coming to the house. It was in the video. Once the child turns 18 that’s it, you can do nothing at all but pray. She did go to police to red flag him and THEY cleared him. Trying to have someone committed is impossible. If you do manage to get a hold on them because they pulled some stunt it’s 3 days max and it’s glorified babysitting only. The doctors can make recommendations, but nobody can force anyone to take or do fuckall.
So what was she to do?! This wasn’t her fault, she tried. She was against a severely deranged child she loved and a system that wants nothing to do with helping its own people. We need psychiatric institutions back open, we need laws back on the books that helps families get psychological care for mentally disturbed loved ones. Instead of blaming one of his victims, why not write your Congressional representative(s) and demand action?
@@williammoore5081 yes she did.
Absolutely Love your channel not to mention your "to the point" narration (Great voice btw) Much Respect from Mid-Michigan 😉👍
Lack of media literacy is the real crime here. He obviously watched the show but didnt take it to heart. FRIENDSHIP IS MAGIC.
Every enemy in the show ever turns around and becomes a friend or goodguy. Like thats the point.
Being into guns and white supremacy just doesnt jive with the message of the show. period.
Except for the final ones that turned to stone. Sometimes, certain types of people just can't be saved in the end...
I disagree, I thought it was the killing.
Mom told them numerous times that this kid shouldn't have a firearm.
Who would sell a gun to a muppet like him,he's obviously nuts.
Always intrigued with your content Kyle. Love your style. Thanks for all the hard work you put into each one. Much ♥️& all the best all!
Thanks for typing my exact thoughts!😊
I like apple jack, but I'm a functioning and empathetic human being
The whole thing can be summed up with, "This boy is mentally disturbed. He could commit a terrible crime... But he might not"
I am a brony who also has autism. This case makes me sad that more could not of been done to prevent the shooting from happening. It still baffles me that he was able to get guns. Brandon should of gotten more help or watched
The first sentence is redundant.
@@MrJimmyTideExactly
We need better mental health care and for families and friends to know warning signs and how to intervene.
Awww do you want an ice cream 🥺🥺🥺
@@MrJimmyTide I can't believe it's 2024 and people are still making fun of bronies. Harassing bronies online hasn't been cool since 2013. Get a new bit.
Thanks for the upload!
I'm autistic and I knew within less than a minute of watching the video on this by the CZcams user Explore With Us that he was autistic(being literally obsessed with 'My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic', rocking back-&-forth, wearing multiple layers of clothes due to his skin being sensitive to certain types of fabric), in addition to having OCD(which I also have and which very commonly co-occurs with autism) and being mentally ill. It's so obvious! How in the actual f@@@ did he not get an autism diagnosis and why in the actual f@@@ did so many people ignore the tell-tale signs that he was dangerously mentally ill?!
I'm sorry for Brandon and I'm sorry for the people that he killed. This tragedy could have been avoided if people had just done their goddamn jobs!
He was diagnosed (it's mentioned in the video), but probably never received proper treatment. Someone like him not only needs to go into special care, but receive treatment throughout his entire life, which probably no one in the family would have been able to afford.
It's also telling the quotes from his mother. It gives me a suspicious impression of her true motives. Doesn't mean that's the case but it doesn't rule out the possibility of some level of resentment
Because even many professionals don't understand autism
I still dislike that true crime youtubers keep bringing up when a person is autistic and DON'T explain that being autistic doesnt make one more likely to kill. How often do they say one is allistic?
But yeah, hearing the traits, I knew that dx was coming
I am obvious imo in my own way and I didn't get a dx until my 20s
@@rockapartiewaivers exist
Autistic or not, no excuse for his bad behavior.
This channel forgot to include some details in the aftermath of this, where the FBI stands up and says "ya we knew about him, his history and activities years ago but we did nothing as usual cause we are too busy arresting fathers as domestic terrorists while trying to protecting their 7 year old daughters being raped in public school bathrooms"
Wonderful work, take care and stay safe! 😊
Thanks for the VIdeos, me and the wife watch all of them and we really appreciate your content. Hope you are well, and if you would like, that you continue to make these great videos!
I'm a brony from Ohio, have been since 2020. I will admit not everyone in the fandom is great (Is there even a "perfect" fandom? NO). But this one kid, damn. The warning lights were on, flags flying, and yet the goverment did absolutely NOTHING. 8 inoccent people died by the hands of a kid who went postal because the goverment didn't help. The mother tried every single Blvd. to get her son some help and she has my respect. This was very avoidable, there was something IPD and the State could have done, but they didn't. No wonder the USA is a trainwreck and is getting worse.
Thank you for explaining that Brony thing because I was totally confused, never ran across that phrase. Thx. Made me subscribe
Congrats on 420k subs! I'm taking a bong hit in your honor right now. Keep up the excellent work Kyle!
I feel for not only the victims but the mother, she tried everything
You roll dice when having children.
How was she supposed to know her son would become a monster
Did you miss the part where she knowingly caused the suicide of his father? Not innocent.
In a very real way, the mother was a victim of the system and her son. She was completely helpless. She could not even legally dispose of him by surrendering him into becoming a ward of the government. She was trapped and did everything right, except perhaps having the monster. But how was she to know he would be a violent defect. Not all defective people are violent. But if seen to be violent, there should be more help for those tasked with their guardianship. It is simply near impossible to be able to care for some of us mentally defective people.
@@GammaJKshe did not cause that death. Don't ever fuckin excuse abuse behaviour because "it's the other person's fault". He killed himself, not her. She didn't force him, he just decided to. That's domestic abuse and one of the more severe forms if you threaten to kill yourself to stop them from leaving. Yeah it's shit he died but that woman caused nothing
@@GammaJK She didn't do that. He made his own choice.
@@GammaJK if I tell you that I will kms if you don't delete your comment, will my death be your fault? Had she told him to unalive himself she wouldn't be innocent, however she just wanted to leave.
You can't call out the weirdos anymore so the weirdos are able to really do stuff like this even though we all know it's coming. It's stunning
I've worked in the ED and in mental health as a nurse. The problem is that the US lacks facilities to for long-term mental health care like the old asylum systems. Now, a lot of those asylums were horribly broken and problematic, but simply shutting them down with no alternative plan was NOT the right answer. This is a very American thing...we tend to let things get to a crisis point (the conditions in asylums) and then we overreact (by shutting them all down with no alternative plan in place). This left a gaping hole in mental health care.
Some patients just aren't able to live safely in regular society. This can be due to danger to themselves, danger to others or both. The best place for them to live is in a long-term facility that's staffed by nurses and doctors who can monitor their health, titrate their medications and assist them in ADL's and functioning at their best level (instead of forcing them into a society that will always viewed them as low functioning and where they can't get the heavy medical attention that they need). These facilities should be strictly regulated, the same as any other hospital to ensure a high standard of care.
The idea of just leaving people with severe mental health issues as the responsibility of their parent or (even worse) alone in society is insane. I feel bad for a lot of our mental health cases that come into the ED because their situation is not their fault. It's the fault of a society that wants to ignore them until they reach a crisis point, at which point they have to be forcibly committed by the police. Then we in the ED and psych units stabilize them enough so that they are 'competent' and then they are released again because no one wants to stay long-term in a hospital environment. But since there's no facility for them to live at, they then go back onto the streets where their condition usually worsens again over time until they end up in the same cycle. It's really sad and frustrating to watch, especially since we know that, with care and close management, they can do a lot better and be a lot happier.
Yet one more reason why we should bring back mental health institutions. If someone is clearly a danger to themselves or others, they do not belong in the general population. So many of these sad stories could be prevented this way. So what if it's expensive. How can you put a price on the innocent lives lost, the trauma to the communities, and the burden on the legal system?
Thanks for all that you do for us Kyle! 😊
He was in a sexual relationship with Apple Jack, the pony….. from a cartoon? The signs were evident from the start.
Well, no blaming his parents this time. His mom did everything she could having meetings with the FBI & police, she saw the signs early & warned them! This is on the system. This kid should've been kept away from the public, in a mental facility somewhere, but no they let him out! I hear about this crap all the time!
My heart goes out to his mother. I have a son that has extreme behavior, he is autistic and MUCH taller / stronger than kids his age. This story is the worst nightmare of us parents of special kids.
It must be scary when seeing events like this, but just like his mom, just do what’s in your power to keep others, yourself, and the child safe. Even if keeping them safe means something they don’t want to do. You’ll be okay though and just know you’re doing the best you can! 💛
If your spawn so much as puts a finger on someone you better make them talk about petting the rabbits if you know what I mean.
@@dissolved1448what an ignorant comment to someone expressing genuine empathy for the situation
@@markb4790 No, I agree. If you can't control your fuck-trophy, it's your responsibility to either lock it up or put it down. It's literally no different than if you own a poorly behaved dog that hurts someone.
@@dissolved1448 Maybe the mother should take responsibility for causing the death of the father by stealing his child from him. She doesn't have any more of a right to that child than the father. She did one of the most evil things imaginable, killing him, and then was apparently mystified when her child started to despise her and talked of suicide.
Rest in peace to all the victims 🙏🏽🪦😔
I feel soooo bad for the mom. She did everything possible for her disturbed son….
Some people are just born not right in the head. I have no idea what society can do for ppl like this. It’s a tragedy all around.
I think the boy seeing his dad's dead body caused it more than anything else, though...
I think he was secretly mad that his head never evolved from it's 5 year old form
❤ this channel! Every video gets better and better.
The phones in lockers company policy is such a stupid thing
I hate this law with a burning passion. SSENSE also has this stupid law too.
@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 it’s just a boomer policy that needs to go away
I can't believe people abide by it. I'm supposed to at my work but I always have my phone on me
It's not. It's because you zoomers have no idea about how to live without a phone in your hand. Every place of business has a phone, and every retail store has a phone that phones to either the store intercom, or the main office, or an outside line. You do not need to have a phone on your person. Learn to use the office phone. I still know the dial codes to phone out of K-Mart from the intercom phone from when I worked there in the 90's. I was the only one that knew how to do that. Used it to phone in a pizza to be waiting for me at home when I got off work. Good old days.
@@oncekuro8517 or maybe people should learn to detach their face from the screen enough to not require that rule in order to perform basic tasks.
As a brony who is also autistic, unfortunately people may see us as bad or insane because of some people like this, it makes me so sad, I feel for all the victims and the families of this awful tragedy, this shooting could’ve been prevented, mental health is such a big problem in America, we have to start taking it seriously, also he should’ve not been able to purchase any guns with his conditions, the easy access to guns in America is insane especially in the south, we need mental health checks for people who want to buy guns, also I believe in banning the AR15 style rifles, there was so many red flags in this one surprised nobody even thought to stop it, also white supremacists and nazis try to brainwash and recruit bronies with propaganda because a lot of people in our community are very vulnerable, mixed with loneliness and isolation from society this will lead some down the this horrible path, it happens in the furry community as well for the same reasons, some of this started when the /mlp/ board and /pol/ board on 4/chan got mixed together on April fools day in 2017 Nazis infiltrated the brony board and the propaganda spread from there, a lot of these people and their content have been banned from the fandom and will continue to be banned hopefully.
Exactly.
I've thankfully met some amazing people in the community who have helped me alot, and my gf is even a mlp fan.
*As a brony who is also autistic, unfortunately people may see us as bad or insane because of some people like this, it makes me so sad,*
IMO the problem is, for some reason, there is this, "force field of stupidity" I call it when it comes to generalizing, where people turn off their brains, and somehow act like it's not just acceptable to generalize fans (of any show or hobby or whatnot), but acceptable to lash out against those who call it out for the unreasonable behavior it is - AS WELL as people existing who seem to think apathy is the right answer when it isn't IMO. IMO the answer is to just be more aggressive, say "If you have an issue with people doing bad things, call them out for what THEY do. Acting like people are bad just because they like the same thing is wrong, and you're wrong for generalizing." and the like.
@@ianperez007 The great and powerful Trrrrixie commands you, I guess. 😂😁
FedEx worth 60 billion but started a go fund me for the families
It's a business not a charity organisation.
@@weemac4645 You're heartless.