STOP WASTING MONEY! M1 Pro vs M1 Max MacBook Pro - 1 MONTH LATER
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These are four of the new MacBook Pro models, a base 14 M1 Pro and a base 16, and then fully maxed out versions of both. I bought all of these with my own money to help with some important questions - and some of the answers really surprised me. I also want to talk about who does not need these laptops and then one other thing that I don’t hear mentioned in most MacBook reviews - and I have no idea why.
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What's up everyone?! I hope this 1 month review of the M1 Pro and the M1 Max was helpful. Did I cover what you wanted to know? What else did you want to see or learn about?
After watching this, which chip configuration would work best for you? Or is there another option that’s better for your needs?
Loved the comment about the value of fast render times vs. the playback/scrubbing experience of actually editing a video. I completely relate to that and think that's really on the mark. Another thing I notice few people talk about is the web browsing on these machines. I don't care how much editing you do, chances are you spend more time on the web than you do editing. Up until recently, no 16" MacBook Pro could play back an 8K CZcams video in Chrome and few people talked about that, even though Chrome is probably the most popular web browser. But my new 16" M1 Pro MacBook can actually play 8K video now. It gets about a 272 on Speedometer 2.0. Now that's valuable!
I mean even the MBA m1 can do it ...
@@arm8636 I wouldn't say "even" lol... the MBA M1 is quite a powerhouse. It is markedly faster than my 16" Intel MacBook Pro.
@@AllgoodthingsTv i thought ur point was about how powerful the new M1 pro and max chips are...to what I answered that even last year M1 fanless MBA is able to push such high res :)
I like to share my actual experience and perspective because sometimes I think it's easy to get caught up in the specs and benchmarks without relating to actual workflow. Thank you for being part of the channel!
As long as your computer feels responsive for what you want to do with it, you have all the power you need. Your message in this video is spot on, surplus power is redundant and a luxury most can't afford. Those who need all of this power, as you say, will probably use these glorious machines to make money and for those people the price is of little concern.
Carl, that it exactly the message I was trying to get across. Thank you for summarizing it so succinctly. Appreciate you being part of the channel!
Surplus power act as a buffer and provide additional power when system requirements for the average app increases over time
Surplus power = future-proofing
If only we knew ahead of time if a computer we don't own yet will feel responsive and will remain that way for the next x years...
Perhaps it’s a good time to take a look at the previous gen macbook pros now. I have one with core i9 and can say that it’s still quite powerful, yet it’s currently about 30% cheaper
I decided to go with the 14” M1 Max with 32cores and 64g of ram with 2tb ssd. I spend nearly all day filming and editing. It was a lot of money, but after just 5 days the amount of time I saved in imports,renders, and the fact that I can upload multiple streams of R3D 6k files without it skipping a beat even when luts, grain etc added has allowed me to cut my production time dramatically and time = money.
How does that work for you? I’m going to buy the same exact configuration as you are. 😃
@@PVCFloobos it’s been AWESOME!!!
I just picked up this model used for 1000 bucks
@@Peter-yc1rs hot damn that’s awesome!
As long as you’re squeezing all the power it can give by all means go big or go home!
Thank you for making the point about actual EXPERIENCE with these M1's not being covered in other reviews. Yeah, render and export times are useful to know about but I'd much rather know about the hours sat in front of the machine editing, playing back, color correcting, etc.
As a PhD in Computer Engineering, the 16” M1Pro is great for interpreted and compiled languages. During undergrad and graduate school, my 2017 14” maxed ram MBP was prefect for a daily…
Thank you so much for comparing these two! It's so helpful!
I'm glad the video was helpful Demetri!
This review totally changed my buying tactics. Exporting time is overrated compared to overall user experience. Not going to break my bank. Thank you.
Thanks for the info.
Hope it was helpful
Literally the best review on these laptops I've seen. Very relaxed, direct and easy to understand. Plus the very reasonable advice at the end. "Buy it nice or buy it twice". I've watched tons of reviews but I still couldn't decide which to go for. Thanks to you, now I know exactly what to buy that gets me the bang for my buck. Awesome video! 👌
Hi, thanks for this video! It is really thorough. Are you going to post a comparison between the M1 pro 16" base model and the M1 max?
perfect timing!!! thank you! 🙏
Hope it was helpful!
Thanks for the insightful video and all the effort you put into it.
Say, the Wallpapers are great; where did you get them from? Somehow I missed them...
This helped me, I appreciate it!
Great advice thanks for the review!
Hi Sagi, really nice review. I really like the quality of the shots. Can you be kind enough to tell me what equipments you use such as camera, tripod, light system, software to edit video. Thank you!!
Hi, thanks this excellent review! Where can I download the backgrounds you had on the laptops? Thanks!
Great review!, I just bought 14inch base model, I wondered if does stil have a staingate issue?
This was very informative to watch, thank you!
Sagi, this was by far one of the best (perhaps the best) videos I have seen reviewing the new Macs. I especially appreciated your in-depth and cogent and coherent explanation of the notch's size relative to its important contents--e.g. the ambient light sensor used to adjust screen brightness and 'temperature'. So many other reviewers seem to focus on denigrating the notch without ever mentioning the substantial requirements the notch must satisfy. This is but one sampling of your balanced and comprehensive coverage, which I think makes you one of the most reliable reviewers.
Darren, I'm super grateful that you took the time to leave such kind feedback. Thank you so much for being part of the channel and community! 🙏
@@TechGearTalk Definitely. Keep making this great and helpful content.🙏🏿
So did you find much of an editing performance increase from the Base 16" to the Max 16"?
That's what I'm struggling to decide at the moment. My projects aren't super complicated, but I am editing GH6 files now, which can be quite high quality (not using ProRes files).
I'm considering spending the extra money on 2 Tb Base 16", instead of upgrading to the 24 core M1 Max
I always enjoy your videos for both content and presentation style, and I watch them all even when my budget will never allow purchasing the item you're covering (like these MacBooks). I appreciate that you stress sticking with a consumer level model (in my case the M1 Mac mini) if you're not making money with your computer.
Thank you so much for taking the time to leave feedback Bryan. Like you said, it's important to me that people make buying decisions based on what they actually need, and not get swept into the marketing hype. Appreciate you being part of the channel!
I really enjoyed this video- the content and presentation style. I love your mindset with regard to what is important for you and your workflow. Most other reviewers never come from that perspective.
So as you say in your video, if you are someone like yourself who doesn’t care so much about rendering times and puts emphasis on buttery smooth workflow, I would like to know which computer chip, memory, etc. you recommend? Is the base M1Pro enough? Or an M1Pro with how much more memory? Or should I skip to the M1Max base model?
I plan to start a CZcams channel soon and will be making 4K videos.
Your videos are so helpful, I went with the base 14”. Thanks
So glad to hear that - CONGRATS!
Same I also ordered base 14"
Could I ask you to focus on some related aspects for using the M1 MacBooks, aspects such as Thunderbolt 4 Docks, using external displays, external SSD's, external NAS/RAID cages for HD's, AND the OS and hardware issues related to them. There appears to be an issue with charging, for example, and I've seen numerous people with external monitor issues. I ask you because I trust you.
This was the best video review for the MacBook Pro ever seen. You answered all the questions and it flowed great job
Ok my buddy in the Christmas Room in Miami, Florida was told to separate his files on his two M1 Macs basic and then send it to his 2017 IMac for uploading and completed his task in no time. From his IMac he controlled all three computers and did his videos in less time. Multitasking at its best! Love your videos BTW.
Yes please do a video where you talk a bit more about the difference between the fan noise in the 16 inch Macbook M1 Pro and 16 inch Macbook M1 Max. How often they come on and how loud. if there is a noticeable difference between the two.
My 16" M1 Max 24GB/32GB/2TB is going to be here next week! Way more than I needed, but hey, head room.....right! Appreciate all your videos on the new MBP's. They were a big help in getting me to what I think is my sweet spot (Buy it nice or buy it twice!). Cheers and thanks!
That's awesome Jim - CONGRATS!!!! So glad I've been able to help.
Agreed. There is value in buying a loaded MacBook, to ‘future proof’ it. Who knows what demands the so called Metaverse will bring
Where do you get the sweet wallpaper for the MacBook?
Gonna pick the base 16” over the 14”!
I’ll be traveling between cities most of the time, so getting to use a external display is nearly impossible. I’ll take advantage of the extra screen room in the 16. I won’t have to squint at my screen while video editing 😂
Don’t forget that, more than ever before, a bigger battery is actually a longer lasting battery this time, around something like 3-4 more hours with light usage than the 14 inch
Good choice Mr Richard.
exactly what I'm thinking right about now, I do have a nice set up at home, but I'm making a vow to be here less!
Have you seen a difference in handling large amounts of raw files? Wondering if the 2x difference in disk bandwidth is noticeable.
Probably the best critical review I've seen for the simple fact he focuses on experience in workload instead of arbitrary performance when the difference has become negligible because the duration has become minimal.
Thank you for the kind words. Great job concisely framing what I hoped to communicate 🙏🏻
very helpful thank you
Hi there. I came across your channel recently and I have to say that your content and presentation style is awesome. I am a photographer and use high resolution cameras like the Sony A7R3 and A7R4. I have a mid 2014 Macbook Pro maxed out with 16GB of RAM and a 1TB SSD. Lightroom CC and Photoshop do slow down when editing these large RAW files.
Wha do you recommend? E.g, Macbook Air or a MacBook Pro? Also, what config? Thanks!
Amazing video, thanks!
Just discovered your channel, love your style and down-to-earth logical analysis! Personally, video export time is important to me. May I ask how big of a difference time-wise are you seeing between the Pro vs. Max configuration?
Just wondering if the 14" model would be able to handle that file you exported into the 16" model?
Question, What displays are you using for your desktop setup?
Thanks for the review for looking into getting a MacBook my wife is going to use a primarily for the cameo silhouette suite which is this vinyl cutting maker what would you suggest the Pro or the air
I usually just buy the best of the best and then see how long it can last. I'm still on my 2013 MacBook pro and it's holding up well. I don't think I'll have to buy into this current generation of MacBook Pro, but it's nice to see what's out there - already much better than what I'm running on.
That's a nice play you got there,macbooks can be futureproof an if u buy the maxed out I think in the long term you’re winning a lot
Thanks man! Love the iPad and macbook videos, always recommend your videos to friends who aren’t into the ecosystem to watch your videos before buying a iPad!
I really appreciate you!
I got the base 16” and it is amazing, such a pleasure to use and I’ve not heard the fans at all, I use it for sketch up and rendering and it’s so quick.
Muchas gracias por toda la información, realmente es de mucho valor.
Any chance you could render a insta 360 one X or one x2 video and show the speed on that with the new Macs?
You have brilliant insights! Subbed
Which one do you recommend for 3D model and animation, game development, music production and playing some games? Is it base 16 enough?
Thank you always for subtitles. Really helps alot since English is 2nd language
I'm so glad they are helpful!
Just ordered base 16” M1 Pro for casual use.
I ordered mine in Mid November five weeks later I am still waiting for it. My advice is not to hesitate if you need a replacement. Hopefully my old one will hold out.
I wondering if I need to work on Auto Cad , Sketch up and photoshop programs which model you would recommend ?
I had been editing on a custom built PC as well. To tell the truth, the main reason I switched to M1 machines is to simplify my life. Instead of tweaking my current machine every year, I'll just replace my Mac every two to three years. Another important reason I switched is for the noise. My old PC was screaming at me when I edited, but the M1 is so quiet that my NAS is now bugging me by being close enough for me to hear the spinning drives. =)
With the m1 pro you won't really have to think about changing every 2 or 3 years I'm sure maye
Urgh my NAS is so flipping loud 😂 anyone that comes round to my house asks what that weird noise is! Especially as I'm using the macbook air. It's almost tempting to go for 8tb ssd drives and never worry about messy setups ever again...
What about running the same project on the new MBP using Adobe Premiere Pro?🤔 Can you run a test?
Where did the 8 core base model feel slower than the 10 core? I am debating downgrading to the 8 core to save $270 since almost everyone is saying almost no difference in the two extra cpu and gpu cores.
your wallpaper on laptops are amazing . they just gave you a sub . 🤣🤣😂
The user experience! yes...that's the most important thing-I want to replace my old iMac late 2013...I want to wait for the new iMacs next year but I'm so tempted to getting a 16" M1pro base....I use Premiere pro which is not fully optimized for the M1 yet...and maybe FCP X is faster but don't care for now...do you think 16GB ram is enough? I may do some After Effects but not 3D etc...I know I will need a 4k monitor too. How practical is to use one of these ones as a desktop replacement? Clamshell mode? I wish I know that Apple has in store for next year's iMacs M1pro/Max or whatever. I can only afford one computer! I want to continue to use my Lacie 20GB Thunderbolt 2 drive...hmmm..I guess you are right: buy it nice or buy it twice! thanks for your advice!
So either 14 or 16 base m1 pro handle editing video seamlessly? I saw you say it cut time down but not which one you went with. I need one that'll handle my canon r6 H265, effects, warp stabilizer, and rendering without turning into a bbq. Any guidance is appreciated. Leaning towards the 16"
And to create music? Working with DAW, plugging an audio interface, record multitracks... and so on! Which one is the best?
I'm curious how much your experience with the M1 Pro vs M1 Max was effected by the difference in RAM, rather than the GPU.
Hi, where can I find those wallpapers?
Great info! You saved me a lot of money!
I have been using big sized mbp such as mbp 17, mbp 15 and mbp 16 (intel) before i went to 13" mbp m1. And yeah it is too small for my usage that involves graphic designing, programming and 3d modelling. However overtime i find that 13" is actually very usable and the privilege of having such a powerful machine in a small form factor is a bonus.
Then when 14 and 16 mbp m1 pro released, i was in dilemma again. Part of me said finally the big screen mbp is back, while another part of me said i will miss the small form factor.
So I went to apple store to compare almost everything i can. From the dimension, weight, screen estate, audio etc.
For me yes 16" isnt that bigger in sized but it is noticeably heavier than the 14".
The screen estate is definitely bigger than the 14" more than I thought and is really a plus point.
The audio is louder, and more bass, but not that big difference. The 14" sounds great on its own.
After a long thought, I went for the 14" with 1tb ssd and i couldnt be happier!
How much ram did you choose? for 3D modeling, I am hesitating if I should update to 32
Nicely done. You got exactly what you wanted, suited to your personal and professional requirements. Did you keep the 13.3" M1, or plan to sell it?
I dabble in Logic Pro and put together three or four 20 minute videos in iMovie each year. Is there any reason for me to go for additional RAM or processor upgrades from the base 14" or 16" models? (Writing this just after the 2023 models were revealed).
Great video. I a boot really sure which one to get I know I need a 16 but not pro or max. So what do I do… well we are graphic designers but we work with publishing house so we are constantly uploading and downloading docs so a typical month would be about 100/200 Gb to an ftp or similar app. We use photoshop, indesign, illustrator. Word PDf sometimes all open at once.
So what I was looking at was a pro with 32mb of memory. But would the £200, I am in the UK, to upgrade to max be worth it?
Thank you!! Just for some reassurance, I just bought the MacBook Pro M1 pro with 16GB ram (base), but added more SSD (2TB), I do some video editing/ photo editing for paid clients, but more as a part time hobby. I would say the video editing will be the most challenging function for my computer to handle, also I use FCPX. Did I purchase correctly? Should I have gotten the max? Should I have spent more on more ram instead of more storage? My priorities are same as yours. I want smooth playback/scrubbing, more screen real estate, but a lighting fast tender time isn’t paramount. Your insight will be so helpful. Hopefully I’ll hear back from you before I can’t return the computer if need be.
Do you do 4k editing?
Where are your wallpapers on those macs from ?
I really wanted the base 2021 16" Pro but ouch it's expensive, so picked up a base 2019 16" Pro for less than half the price of the 2021 model, and after using both side by side, for my needs, I'm happy
That’s crazy. The M1 MacBook Air is a faster machine than any Intel MacBook ever released including the 16 inch pros. But I’m glad you’re happy with your purchase
Another great informative video. Thank you for sharing.
I was actually considering the Pro and now realize the Air will be sufficient.
Glad it was helpful! If you don't need a Pro, save that money!
Great content. Exporting time difference is crazy…
How long will the late 2021 M1 last? From a security view point the life span is based on 1) how many years Apply will feel like supporting your MBP version with its latest OS update and 2) How many maintaiablity years will they feel that it's cost effective to accept your MPB version for testing; and then theirs the costs of maintaining a stock of repairability parts. Today's collateral question is how long will it take for your favorite apps to mod their S/W to change from Intel to the M-1 chip set. It is noted that in selecting the 16" 64 M1 Max the Intel GPU gets replaced by Apple's GPU.
Curious, what do you do with all the laptops when you're done reviewing them? Do you sell them?
Probably returns them to be open-boxed by the likes of BestBuy.
Great video. I love the "buy it nice or buy it twice" motto. I overbuilt the daylights out of a Windows desktop in 2016, and it still screams. 64GB of RAM was considered a luxury at the time, but it served me well during thousands of hours in Photoshop with heavily layered files. The M1 Max is currently the only way to get 64GB of RAM in a MacBook pro, so you know which one I bought, even though I don't need the extra video editing prowess.
Thank you for the kind words. I love hearing about your experience and Joe thinking of your actual use case resulting in a wide purchasing decision. Good work!
I don’t do any video editing at all but am still considering either a m1 pro MacBook Pro 14 or m2 MacBook Air(mainly going to use it as a word processor, browse the internet etc..) would it still be worth it to buy a MacBook Pro 14 for its slightly larger and brighter screen ?
Trying to decide whether I should purchase the MacBook Air 2020 or wait until potentially the MacBook Air 2022 comes out! Do you have any insights on the subject?
You said right, the editing experience is important ! 👏👏👏
I would like to buy a mac for editing purpose.. I am a learner and for me time is not money at present.. Which mac should I go for ??
Truly best video on those macs. Thanks a lot mate
I’m so glad it was helpful!! Thank you for being part of the channel!
Recently upgrade from my MBP M1 13' to a factory refurb M1 Pro 16' from micro center at great deal! Extremely happy with my purchase!
My job is processing videos under 30 minutes. And I want a bigger screen. Do you think a 16 inches basic MacBook Pro is good enough for me? Thanks
You have the best videos! I appreciate your reviews... In your opinion, will a base model 16" be able to perform using Photoshop/Illustrator/Lightroom? I am a photographer and am looking to spend on my first MacBook Pro and I want to make the right decision. I don't know if I should opt for the MAX or if the Pro would be enough. For sure the 16" model though - I love the big screen size. Anyway, any opinions you have would be greatly appreciated. Aloha!
Thank you - you're very kind - and I'm glad the videos are helpful. Yes, the 16" Pro crushes those three programs. Will you see some difference if you're batching 100's of RAW photos - sure. But it's like the video rendering example I gave, it depends on how often you do those things and how much that time-saving means to you. Hope that makes sense.
Once again, if someone would ask what would be the best model for me, do you think it would be entry level or the maxed out?
I had to choose between entry level or double the ram. I watched 500 comparison videos and none compared my options.
I chose the latter, but it might be a mistake.
Ram is only incredibly important for music production or when you have multiple programs running at once. If you’re not doing heavy duty work you should be totally fine
The "experience" point is huge. Thanks for mentioning that.
I just bought a base MacBook Air 2 weeks ago, with the idea to buy a 14” or 16” later this year to replace my defective 15” MBP, but the air is sooo nice that I even wonder if I am going to
Nice wallpapers! Source?
Please could you share where you got your wallpapers from for the M1s? They're stunning!
Did you find out?
@@lbglbg unfortunately not, sorry 😭
There is only 1 situation where i would recommend going for the 16 instead of the 14 which is if you don't have an external monitor to connect it with either at home or office, because if u do, a big external monitor will always be better than a 16 inch. And what you gain in portability when u take it outside is not comparable between the two.
I have to disagree. 16” is big enough and it’s gorgeous (better quality than an external monitor). Portability has become less of an issue (for me at least). I’d rather have a big gorgeous incorporated display that I can take to the bed or the sofa immediately. But to each his own, of course, just wanted to present a counter argument based on my (extensive) experience.
@@marianobarcia i have a 34 inch monitor on my desk. Cant even compare what i can do with it and with a 16 inch MacBook...
@@joaoroman9583 who doesn’t have an external monitor…?
@@marianobarcia Then why should I use the 16'' monitor when I am at home?
@@malageb1 because it’s XDR and also it’s portable for when you want to take it to the bed or the sofa
My 16" M1 Max with 64gb & 8tb ssd flies through everything except for a short section of Canon R5 8k all-i h265 clip that I sped up 5000% on the latest Davinci Studio 17. It only slowed down when rendering that portion & the full 8k 6min 30 sec video took about 10mins 15sec to render. This thing is such a huge time saver & I'm much happier to make videos as it way more responsive than my 13 year old laptop
Hello, I have my doubts, if I buy the max or the pro, I do video editing and graphic design work.
I usually work with programs like After effects, final cut pro, davinci resolve, premiere, illustrator, photoshop, atom and office automation in general.
Regarding your experience or a user who can help me, what chip would you recommend? The option that I have chosen right now to buy is the model: macbook pro 14 'm1 max, 24 gpu, 32ram.
Very good video and thank you.
I have my doubt about whether I buy the m1 max in the 14-inch model and the battery runs out very
Hey there, I bought the M1 macbook air and now when I plug it in I can feel some micro vibration on the lid, using a USA plug in the UK. Is that normal?
I discovered your channel I guess about a month ago and honestly you're my best new CZcams discovery of 2021. Your presentation and relaxed style make every video an easy watch (I also include MKBHD in this category), very informative content that focuses on real life use cases more often than benchmarks, great production, quality over quantity, and you've helped me with my MacBook Pro purchasing decision which I appreciate (boy did I watch a lot of videos before buying!). Also an added bonus when you show F1 clips when demonstrating the screens on products (huge F1 fan here!). Thanks and all the best :)
so if you wanted a better editing experience, but didnt need faster render times, would you upgrade the GPU or CPU?
I'll like to know too. Esp for Premiere and AE!
At 11:27, you meant to say, "at $300 per year", not "at $300 per day". In that case, it would NOT be worth it (ha, ha) Great video and very helpful. I like your style, speed, thoroughness, clear annunciation and articulation. Well done, man.
You can not extrapolate from video editing performance into other areas of performance, compute cycles for a different task, like compiling code, rendering 3d models, game development, etc. All have different compilers and software layers so they will all have different gains on the ArmM1 mac.
So you mention elsewhere that the Max vs Pro isn't noticeable for most people but then in this video you say that it is noticeable just for playback and skimming during video editing. Can you clarify that please? Thanks
Just ordered 16” m1max 64gb 2tb with fcp instilled coming February-January for video editing and software development. I can wait I waited a whole month for 1 month reviews to make a decision and it was worth the wait I can definitely wait again. Plan on keeping it for 8 years plus or until it stop working like my 2014 MacBook Pro that stop working three months ago after owning it for 7 years it stopped working because it was lagging n freezing then decide to shut down because It was not enough space like every second. I toke me like 6hr sometimes just to edit one video seriously it was so laggy and about 2hr just to export and when I was done exporting the video n finally get to watch it and realize I made a mistake I would have to go back an edit for hrs because it laggy then export for hr.’if it wasn’t for that I would have kept it or it shutting down. So don’t let nobody judge for wanting to future proof for that little head room
I love hearing that you kept your laptop for 7 years - that's such a good move. I'm a big believer in only upgrading when you need it. Thank you for sharing!
those macbook backgrounds look awesome, where can i find them?
M1 max fully maxed out would be insane in a Mac Pro. Bigger body would definitely keep it cool and allow it to work at full potential..
very practical and reasonable analysis
Thank you for the kind words. Thank you for being part of the channel!
I’m currently wait on a an M1 Max for my 3d construction Design work everyone at apple is telling me to wait do you think i need to wait for this or would an M1 Pro with 32GB offer the right level of specification
Does anyone know when Canon is planning on adding the new Canon SL4.