Dock Talk with Jeff Cote and Nigel Calder - Part 1 of 2
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- On today's Dock Talk, Jeff is spending some time with a gentleman who had a huge impact on his life, Nigel Calder. An author, off-shore sailor and all-around marine systems guru. In this two-part series, Jeff and Nigel discuss lithium batteries, grounding systems, lightning strikes, high output alternators, a new solar panel and an exciting new development in lead-acid battery technology.
As well, Nigel is introducing his new Boat How To course designed to teach boaters how to be self-reliant on the water and save money fixing things yourself. boathowto.com/#aff=pysystems
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Absolutely the best content anywhere for a guy with a 20 year old boat, 10 year old batteries, 60 year old dreams and a 15 year old outlook 😎.
I’m on the fence with LiFePO4 or Firefly energy storage decision. One huge point Nigel made was that the typical weekend cruiser will probably never reach the theoretical lithium battery cycle lifecycle limit with the way we sail. Someday, though, we may get to cruise the way we want…then, we will need (want!) those awesome energy storage systems.
I hope Nigel’s 5th edition of the “bible” (with more on foam core and lithium, as well as the newer charging systems) is on its way soon.
Great discussion.
Thanks Jim for sharing!
2 of my mentors discussing one of my favorite topics.. love it can't wait for part 2
Thanks!
I'm in one of those schools that has a year long course. Shout out to the Marine Engineering program at Broward College! Jeff Cote is one of my inspirations, specifically to aspire to great things. I've got Calder's "Boatowner's Mechanical and Electrical Manual" Fourth Edition on my bookshelf based on Jeff's praise of Nigel. I hope one day I can have the privilege of interviewing Jeff Cote and Nigel Calder about boating!
Thanks for the super kind feedback! We can surprise ourselves by 1) having a vision of where we want to go or be 2) getting there one step at a time.
When I first started watching this a week or so ago I was blown away as this seemed way beyond what I needed to know. Now that I finished listening I have learned some pretty important stuff. Two years until new battery technology? That is about right about the time for me to swap out my lead acid batteries. THANKS. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and especially "it is never as easy as you thought it would be......" which I am continuing to experience with almost every project.
Thanks John for sharing, glad our content resonated with you.
Killed it Jeff! Learning by osmosis.
Thanks Scott! Your feedback means a lot.
Thanks Jeff. Appreciate the current information and developments in energy storage, charging and applications in the marine electrical world. Nigel's participation adds practicality. Looking forward to part 2.
Glad it was helpful!
Awesome interview! I loved it! Thank you1 So much knowledge!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great part 1!
We're glad you enjoyed it!
Awesome duo... TY!
Thank you for watching!
Good video Jeff !!
Glad you enjoyed it
Excellent discussion, I have learned a lot. Thankyou.
Glad it was helpful!
Just awesome!
Thank you!
great interview. was fun to watch Nigels enthusiasm for marine technical. It was also re-assuring to hear his abuse of Firefly's now that I officially own one. Great little battery, extremely happy with its PSOC performance.
Glad you enjoyed our Dock Talk podcast, thanks for letting us know.
Thank you for the discussion. Jeff you just said it - education and awareness. I have to say it is challenging to find info on lithium Iron batteries. I have spent the winter trying to get good answers. Im still not satisfied with what I have found. It seems like the industry is in sync. Great interview. Nigel just said it. The industry has a challenge to get the right info out to those of us that are trying to understand how it should be done.
Thanks for sharing!
two subjects not quite covered:
1= Use of surge protection device to mitigate lightning strikes. SPDs short circuit phase, neutral and ground during a strike avoiding arc flash within equipment.
2= Have an independent temperature shut down system for each electrical equipment location. OCPD do not protect against over temperature.
Hi Josi, haven't seen this sort of systems before, anyone else can share their experience?
Wow!
Thanks.
OMG Dan, You are making me cry a litttle bit. My Dad died on March 31. I hadn't seen him much in the year before cause of the covid and he was 85 and not in good health. My mom died years ago and dad quickly remarried. I still have not been able to get family photos, videos documents.. any thing. I would think he had a will. Hope it works out.
PS , I want to talk to you at ACCA. I will be there. I have some old flying things to confess to the Guru(That's you)
Thanks for sharing.
Wonder if we will start to see alternator cooling systems to deal with the larger outputs?
Good point, haven't seen this feature just yet.
@@PacificYachtSystems imagine an alternator with a self cooling system that could dump load into it in the event the li batteries shut off, buying time for a shut off. Time to design it then!
Electric car manufacturers use capacitors for regen storage and to compensate at high level acceleration.
Hi Josi, thanks for sharing, didn't know that.
It isn't clear to me whether the limited 0.3C capacity of charge of some Li ion batteries is due to a build in BMS or whether is a about the raw cells only accepting 0.3C.
Good question Airgread, not sure either. Anyone else can chime on this question?
I'm a little confused, Nigel says the code is a minimum based on safety but then, moments later, says that LiFePO4 batteries that simply turn themselves off without notice are not approved. If an electrical system that fails, albeit safely, is no longer certifiable then this seems like an expansion of the codes reach.
Hanford, good point.
One thing I didn't hear clearly, he wants people to use gas instead of dry powder for fire suppression? What does he mean by that?
My idea is that there needs a new standard where a specific BMS of a Li ion battery can talk to all kind of charging devices like alternators, solar panel battery chargers and so on. I haven't pondered upon it a big deal yet, but this is the direction it should go IMHO
@Aus L Thanks, I didn't know. What manufacturer delivers such a system?
Mastervolt can do that. They have lithium ion batteries, chargers, inverters, alternator regulators, and solar controllers, that can all be connected to their MasterBus network. They're pricey though. I'm sure other companies have this or are working on it as well.
Hi Airgead, good point. Communication between batteries and charging sources would alleviate some of the concerns about lithium BMS disconnecting the battery because of overcharging.
It is called canbus ! The BMS(REC) controls the Alternator via a Wakespeed regulator and controls victron Multi and MPPT , JOB DONE !
@@markrobertson4320 Yes, but I am on the Mastervolt platform. I have a REC BMS.
I just removed my 1 cylinder 3000 RPM generator from my engine room. There was no way to get good access for service and inspection. I thought: what the heck: having two diesel engines on board: everything double, including through hulls, double fuel filters, and so on. Many years ago thought that the best way would be LiFePo4 and a huge alternator in order to use the main engine in a efficient way to recharge.
Airgead, what's the make and model of your boat?
@@PacificYachtSystems it is a Hallberg Rassy 40. The generator was a Fischer Panda
it turned out, only detectable once removed, that the plus cable of the starter battery had been chafed through over an about 1 foot length, and " repaired" with isolation tape. Also there was a loose hose that was visible once we removed the water pump, necessary to remove the generator from its shell, so that was the reason it was leaking... I bought the boat when it was 3 years old, and I searched the internet and found there had been a fire in the motor room 2 times.
The fire alarm system should have a motor shut down executed simultaneously to extinguisher activation.
Thanks for sharing.
I met Calder once in Mexico in 1996 he was pissed at the Cuban government for not selling him Cuban charts in bulk at a discount rate.
How was cruising Cuba in 96?
@@PacificYachtSystems I went to a Cuban local bar. I ordered a rum and coke. I got rum. Coke please. More rum. So I think to myself in 96 is cubalibre (liberate cuba) a communist pro or against. I said cubalibre."cubalibre!) Another big shot of rum. So I sat down all locals left the the bar. They had no coca cola it was a locals bar...
@@PacificYachtSystems maybe now its different. We had low water tanks so we went into a town we had not pre registered to. We asked to fill our tanks. We were very much turned away.
@@PacificYachtSystems
In mangroves holding on to let a storm pass. Captain said "hey Scott we have 2 guys coming up on us fast in a small boat!" Up on deck they asked for something we did not have. We were 2 weeks away from Maria la gorda, I had 1 cigarette I was smoking 2 in the pack. That was all. Those Cubans asked for a cigarette. I gave my last 2. Captain told them what I did. They gave us a big bag of hand rolled cigars.
@@PacificYachtSystems my girlfriend and myself were walking Havana holding hands. a 11is year old girl grabbed both our hands from behind now we are all friends after her Spanish then French then English. She gave us a late evening tour things off the beaten track. Heidi and went into a bar. The little girl asked for money. ? $5 huge in Cuba. We left the bar saying poor girl. Then Heidi said look. There she was at a soda fountain hard currency only bar that locals cannot afford chin on bar. Ordining a milkshake. I tear up