"High profile lugs. Almost an inch in length." I LOL'd pretty hard at that. I remember looking at all these sleds back in the day and being amazed. We were always wondering how sleds could possibly get any better than they were then. Crazy what 20+ years does.
Soko seems like when cell phones really started to take off , 15-20 yrs ago everything ,not only Motorsports took off ! We could give feedback right there ! This that etc etc >>>>>>
FOR SURE!! todays riders are down right disrespectful of our old shit. some youtube channel was riding old triples and talked about how they make a lot of noise but don't go any where haha. i thought they were rockets!! first sled was a 94 formula Z, the a mach 1 and then a series of mach z's. don't tell me they weren't fast, cuz i will cry.
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I miss the days where you rode the absolute piss out of sled, overheat it, blow it up and then do a top end motor job over night in a small shed get her started again and ride the next morning lol. I also had a '95 XLT 600, racked up 13,500 miles and break the chassis in half, sell it to my brother who transplanted the motor into another polaris XLT chassis that still runs to this day 😂
My 1st sled was the 94 MXZX 470..... Then a 95 Formula Z 583 with 192 studs which did nearly vertical track stands... Then the 99 Summit X 670....... All never failed me, Took a beating & ran / operated well when resold.....
Amazing these sleds are still great today. Mines '97, and I'm still having a blast. I put up a channel around these older machines. Thanks for sharing this great classic ad!
Use to watch this vhs tape over and over again back in 94 as a 14 year old in Wisconsin. Dreamed on having me a Ski-doo and wow have they changed over the years. I'm still dreaming. Maybe next year ha ha.
I remember a buddy of mine having I think it was a mx. Was on the bus one morning looking for him n saw him n his new sled ripping up the trail n launch the road in front of the bus I thought that was the coolest thing ever
I have a 94 yammy v max 600 and all that thing does is destroy your lower back! My 03 800mxz is by far comfier but all the new gen sleds now are a joy to ride. I just keep laughing at this video so many people with sore backs and spines at end of the day to go with all this high tech fun.
@@W4RD1N8ER The old seating position is what took me and I'm sure thousands of others out of snowmobiling, just murder on backs. But they sure went around corners better and you could go faster with less power than today's sleds. And they were more affordable.
the rotary valve 670 motor was one of the best motors ever with incredible torque!! I would put that motor against any sled today on a drag strip 660 ft
@@jondoe6618 yes. the 670's rock. i had a 97 mxz 670 and was right on the ass of a 2003 a/c f7. i think i could have topped it, but he let off. think he knew better. Lol. after the race he said, "man that thing is fast!".. i said yep.
Man times have changed. Seems so lame by today's standards. The clothes they wear, the music, etc. I wonder what we will think of the style of today in 20 years?
I think we'll laugh at the silly decal wraps people put all over their sleds. Especially "Monster Energy" ones even when the rider isn't actually sponsored.
3:16 - Eagle River!! My hometown. Great snowmobile races here! Edit: (Don't know if they meant Eagle River Wisconsin my home town or Eagle river somewhere else.)
1994 I was just going into high school. I'd ride dirtbikes and quads all summer long. I just could not get excited about sleds. They never turned a corner for evolution until the mid 2000's. I played with a 500cc indy a few times but never thought about buying one.
I got a 97 formula triple that thing rips!! I love it also at 13:18 that song is call blues ballad by Hermann skibbe I’ve listened to some of these song very carefully and figured out how to play them on guitar
@The dead the old sleds box frame just buckled out from no suspension , my 99 Mach z was the perfect example 1 big jump the frame pushed out onto where my feet rest
Great video! I used to have a '94 MX, unfortunately it was a turd compared to the 500 Indy I had before it. The MX was top heavy, didn't handle as well and the suspension wasn't as good as my Indy. Still, I enjoyed watching the video and the marketing I fell for at the time. i remember stripping off the pink graphics soon after I got it. Really neat to see it in action again in the video.
@@GearheadRob319 Indy’s definitely aren’t perfect, that’s one of the reasons I was an early adopter in my area and switched over the Ski-doo. Unfortunately that was a mistake with the MX 470. It wasn’t as fast too speed, wasn’t as powerful, didn’t handle anywhere near as good nor ride better than my older 500 Indy. It probably got better MPG with the rotary valve but who cares, everything else about that MX sucked. The later S-chassis Ski-doos were nice sleds and I owned a few but the MX was one of my biggest mistakes and most regretful purchases. Almost 30 years later and it still bothers me that I bought it instead of another Indy.
@@thatalaskaguy Indy's back in the day probably were the snowmobile to own. They did handle good, and we're a very good looking sled. The F chassy indeed was top heavy, but straight line bumps could bang the bumps almost as good if not better imo. They couldn't steer quite as good though. But I've owned all Brand's in my 40 year's of snowmobiling life. And ski Doo built their snowmobile very durable, I see more mid 90s ski Doo alive and running as opposed to same year Polaris or cat. And of course they still handle kinda hard, Alot are still up and running great. Right now I own a 1994 STX 583. 1994 St 470. 1996 SS 670. And a 1994 Indy trail 488. All run great after alot of work, especially to the Indy. broken heim inner front suspension joint's. Broken lower steering mount, aluminum mount to steel steering shaft. And my 470 handles all out bumps going straight better than that trail. But to each their own. Oh, BTW. I care about gas mileage to, because gas is $4 a gallon where I live!☹️
@@GearheadRob319 if photos were as easy to take then as now I’d have pictures of all the holes I drilled in my tunnel trying different suspension and skid frame mounting holes searching for better ride and handling. I spent so much time and money on springs, tuning, testing etc just trying to get the MX to be at the same baseline in ride and handling as my Indy. The only thing I’d done to my old Indy was stiffer IFS springs and raise the front arm up in the tunnel one hole and extend the limiter strap out it maximum distance. I never broke anything in the Indy front suspension from bump impacts. The only time I’ve had broken parts is from impact damage or excessive wear. My brother bought a ‘95 Formula Z 583 while I had my MX and it was a much improved machine that rode & handled better than my MX. We thought it was a nicer sled than an Indy. But my MX was not that sled. The engine was mounted up too high causing it to feel clumsy & top heavy compared to an Indy. The Formula Z engine was mounted lower and that improved handling. In my area, in fact much of South Central Alaska, the vast majority of old sleds you still see running around are Polaris machines. I have several old Indy’s (30 years +\- ) and I still ride them. You don’t see old Ski-doos from that era. I believe that’s mainly due to the popularity of Polaris at that time and the unpopularity of Ski-doo back then. In regards to fuel cost, when it comes to performance sleds MPG isn’t a big consideration over performance. I just paid $4.20 gallon yesterday for gas and it was $6.25 this past summer.
@@thatalaskaguy All valid points. Well, have a good new year. And happy sledding. I'm just waiting for snow to ride my 94 STX. And 94 Indy. Check my channel out sometime. I have a bunch of snowmobile vids.
I've got an '02 Zx 440 race sled that I bought brand new off the race program. It was my last Ski-doo and kinda cool that it was the last of their trailing arm race sleds. I remember riding a demo Rev during the spring of '02 and instantly realizing my then "still new" sled was obsolete.
583 was the best motor. Top end noway would it though a Mach z but it beat it all in handling one the mxz chassis due to being more sturdy on high speed corning withe tge xtra bogey wheels and shock. Had a 97 700 FORMULA III thing was scary fast. Couldnt turn it unless you let off the gas. The triples though man never forget there sound coming off trail to cross to fuel up.
The ugly bubble years. I like Skidoo over other brands but Yamaha had the best looking sleds from the 90's to the early 2000's. Polaris was too boxy in the 90's.
That was a great engine! You could pull quite a bit more power out of them with a little head work, carb work and a good pipe. It would also get you home after a day of riding... unlike the triples of that era.
Funny how they chose the hotter climates of the world for a Colder climate Pay to play pastime / wastetime in the Safari so-called series Snowmobiles. Definitely a huge screwup if you ask me & All of the Cold climate places on earth and you'd think they would simply choose that appropriate name for it. Like the Siberia climate etc etc, Or Himalayan climate and still riding & crashing with fogged up face Shields in the 1990's. It all in the name
That's true. You have to look at the nagatives as well. I would still however pick ski doo over the others of this era exept mabey arctic cat they had some crazy stuff as well
Arctic cats is like buying a boat. Money pit. Skidoo polaris and then yamaha in my opinion. Did love the wildcat and thundercats thiugh. The suspension for skidoo on that chassis was basically good for straight to the point wide open power to top end drag racing or doing donuts lol. Never really thiought of them for handling with that big front end. Heavy as hell when you bury them.
"High profile lugs. Almost an inch in length." I LOL'd pretty hard at that.
I remember looking at all these sleds back in the day and being amazed. We were always wondering how sleds could possibly get any better than they were then. Crazy what 20+ years does.
Soko seems like when cell phones really started to take off , 15-20 yrs ago everything ,not only Motorsports took off ! We could give feedback right there ! This that etc etc >>>>>>
FOR SURE!! todays riders are down right disrespectful of our old shit. some youtube channel was riding old triples and talked about how they make a lot of noise but don't go any where haha. i thought they were rockets!! first sled was a 94 formula Z, the a mach 1 and then a series of mach z's. don't tell me they weren't fast, cuz i will cry.
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So high profile they are riding in other sleds tracks in most of the scenes
I miss the days where you rode the absolute piss out of sled, overheat it, blow it up and then do a top end motor job over night in a small shed get her started again and ride the next morning lol. I also had a '95 XLT 600, racked up 13,500 miles and break the chassis in half, sell it to my brother who transplanted the motor into another polaris XLT chassis that still runs to this day 😂
Send it!
My 1st sled was the 94 MXZX 470..... Then a 95 Formula Z 583 with 192 studs which did nearly vertical track stands... Then the 99 Summit X 670....... All never failed me, Took a beating & ran / operated well when resold.....
i have a 97 formula. for a 380 that thing is crazy fast
Amazing these sleds are still great today. Mines '97, and I'm still having a blast. I put up a channel around these older machines. Thanks for sharing this great classic ad!
My Old Sled I watch your videos thanks
I got a 98 formula Z runs like new and a 93 MX 97MXZ 670 and 440
I'm subscribed to your channel
Engineers: How much ground clearance do you want?
Boss: Do negative numbers work?
Yeah i mean for cornering and stability its better to be on the ground but for off road sled it sucks
I still have this video on VHS. My dad got it when he purchased a 1994 Safari deluxe. I love 90s snowmobiles!
Use to watch this vhs tape over and over again back in 94 as a 14 year old in Wisconsin. Dreamed on having me a Ski-doo and wow have they changed over the years. I'm still dreaming. Maybe next year ha ha.
Those machines were fun and all , I loved my Mach 1 back in the day , but I LOVE my Gen 4 even more , gotta love technology
I remember a buddy of mine having I think it was a mx. Was on the bus one morning looking for him n saw him n his new sled ripping up the trail n launch the road in front of the bus I thought that was the coolest thing ever
i remember this when it came out... it was my favourite movie when i was a kid!! Haven't seen it in years. Thanks for posting!
Me too. Watched it so many times l knew every dip and bend on each segment.
“Smooth ride”.....the comedy....
Brother have you rode a sled from the 80’s lol? But I see what your saying. 🤣
I have a 94 yammy v max 600 and all that thing does is destroy your lower back! My 03 800mxz is by far comfier but all the new gen sleds now are a joy to ride. I just keep laughing at this video so many people with sore backs and spines at end of the day to go with all this high tech fun.
W4RD1N8ER haha true isn’t it. The old sleds had little to no suspension. The new ones are amazing the seating position, ergonomics it can’t be beat.
@@W4RD1N8ER The old seating position is what took me and I'm sure thousands of others out of snowmobiling, just murder on backs. But they sure went around corners better and you could go faster with less power than today's sleds. And they were more affordable.
the rotary valve 670 motor was one of the best motors ever with incredible torque!! I would put that motor against any sled today on a drag strip 660 ft
Kevin Cloonan it would lose to any modern sled lmfao
There’s no way it could compete with the 800’s and 850’s of today.... nice motor in the ‘90s, but nothing like today’s powerplants!
I agree. I have 4-670's. I have stomped several 800's with them. That was before turbos however. There still really damn fast out of the hole!!
@@jondoe6618 yes. the 670's rock. i had a 97 mxz 670 and was right on the ass of a 2003 a/c f7. i think i could have topped it, but he let off. think he knew better. Lol. after the race he said, "man that thing is fast!".. i said yep.
'94 one year before my dad's Indy, which is still runnin', only ever been fixed twice!
Man times have changed. Seems so lame by today's standards. The clothes they wear, the music, etc. I wonder what we will think of the style of today in 20 years?
I think we'll laugh at the silly decal wraps people put all over their sleds. Especially "Monster Energy" ones even when the rider isn't actually sponsored.
3:16 - Eagle River!! My hometown. Great snowmobile races here!
Edit: (Don't know if they meant Eagle River Wisconsin my home town or Eagle river somewhere else.)
Eagle River Alaska ?
Thats where im at lol
@@JayRock907 thought the video meant eagle river in wisconsin thats where I am
8:32 just listen to that awesome guitar riff!
I drive a 1994 mx runs perfect still and all around great sled
(Yellow)
Shit mxz the mx is my 96 440
nice! i use to have this on vhs lol but i remember ther being an intro with music at the beginning but it skips it on this
1994 I was just going into high school. I'd ride dirtbikes and quads all summer long. I just could not get excited about sleds. They never turned a corner for evolution until the mid 2000's. I played with a 500cc indy a few times but never thought about buying one.
Thank you.
My old 91 mach gapped a new 800etec out on the lake this year just rippin 120mph and it's a 583 lmao
Those were the days those sleds are better then they are now
Jake Smith Dont know if i can agree with you on that, but they were a lot more affordable, thats for sure.
Jake Smith ski doo sucks
No, no they were not. That '94 MX I bought back then was a big regret and a lesson that I should have never strayed from Polaris.
Picked up a 97 ultra 680 for $500. Fixed the primary and broke 100mph on the test run!
Traded it for a sled with suspension
Serveck same exact one I got it’s a triple I use in a radar run 104.8 in a 100ft on ice.
I really like the old formula sleds. Rotax. Rave. Those things ran great for cc to cc. Ski-doos for life!
Love the looks of the Mach1 from this year
Had an old mach 1 583 I think it was, hard to start compared to polarises, much heavier, but damn it was fast
I run a 99 670HO
BUT....love this style sled
I got a 97 formula triple that thing rips!! I love it also at 13:18 that song is call blues ballad by Hermann skibbe I’ve listened to some of these song very carefully and figured out how to play them on guitar
I have 94 580 grand touring that is mint. Showroom cond. 1678 miles.
Live in the U. P.?
Cool vid
The sleds these days are 1000 times better, but unfortunately we dont enough snow to ride them on.
that why you need a trailer and drive to the snow ❄ seem like that what most people do .
Not really
@The dead the old sleds box frame just buckled out from no suspension , my 99 Mach z was the perfect example 1 big jump the frame pushed out onto where my feet rest
That’s because it is a Mack there are not ment for that stuff
The older sleds still have a good reputation
someone should remake this video with the song:
at doom's gate.
in The back ground.
Notice in how some of the scenes they are riding through other sleds tracks
Then came the thunder cat and busted ski doos bubble.
Great video! I used to have a '94 MX, unfortunately it was a turd compared to the 500 Indy I had before it. The MX was top heavy, didn't handle as well and the suspension wasn't as good as my Indy. Still, I enjoyed watching the video and the marketing I fell for at the time. i remember stripping off the pink graphics soon after I got it. Really neat to see it in action again in the video.
Ive owned several 'Indy's" and they had flaws to. And a good 470 will run with a indy 500 all day long. And get better gas mileage.
@@GearheadRob319 Indy’s definitely aren’t perfect, that’s one of the reasons I was an early adopter in my area and switched over the Ski-doo. Unfortunately that was a mistake with the MX 470. It wasn’t as fast too speed, wasn’t as powerful, didn’t handle anywhere near as good nor ride better than my older 500 Indy. It probably got better MPG with the rotary valve but who cares, everything else about that MX sucked. The later S-chassis Ski-doos were nice sleds and I owned a few but the MX was one of my biggest mistakes and most regretful purchases. Almost 30 years later and it still bothers me that I bought it instead of another Indy.
@@thatalaskaguy Indy's back in the day probably were the snowmobile to own. They did handle good, and we're a very good looking sled. The F chassy indeed was top heavy, but straight line bumps could bang the bumps almost as good if not better imo. They couldn't steer quite as good though. But I've owned all Brand's in my 40 year's of snowmobiling life. And ski Doo built their snowmobile very durable, I see more mid 90s ski Doo alive and running as opposed to same year Polaris or cat. And of course they still handle kinda hard, Alot are still up and running great. Right now I own a 1994 STX 583. 1994 St 470. 1996 SS 670. And a 1994 Indy trail 488. All run great after alot of work, especially to the Indy. broken heim inner front suspension joint's. Broken lower steering mount, aluminum mount to steel steering shaft. And my 470 handles all out bumps going straight better than that trail. But to each their own. Oh, BTW. I care about gas mileage to, because gas is $4 a gallon where I live!☹️
@@GearheadRob319 if photos were as easy to take then as now I’d have pictures of all the holes I drilled in my tunnel trying different suspension and skid frame mounting holes searching for better ride and handling. I spent so much time and money on springs, tuning, testing etc just trying to get the MX to be at the same baseline in ride and handling as my Indy. The only thing I’d done to my old Indy was stiffer IFS springs and raise the front arm up in the tunnel one hole and extend the limiter strap out it maximum distance.
I never broke anything in the Indy front suspension from bump impacts. The only time I’ve had broken parts is from impact damage or excessive wear.
My brother bought a ‘95 Formula Z 583 while I had my MX and it was a much improved machine that rode & handled better than my MX. We thought it was a nicer sled than an Indy. But my MX was not that sled. The engine was mounted up too high causing it to feel clumsy & top heavy compared to an Indy. The Formula Z engine was mounted lower and that improved handling.
In my area, in fact much of South Central Alaska, the vast majority of old sleds you still see running around are Polaris machines. I have several old Indy’s (30 years +\- ) and I still ride them. You don’t see old Ski-doos from that era. I believe that’s mainly due to the popularity of Polaris at that time and the unpopularity of Ski-doo back then.
In regards to fuel cost, when it comes to performance sleds MPG isn’t a big consideration over performance. I just paid $4.20 gallon yesterday for gas and it was $6.25 this past summer.
@@thatalaskaguy All valid points. Well, have a good new year. And happy sledding. I'm just waiting for snow to ride my 94 STX. And 94 Indy. Check my channel out sometime. I have a bunch of snowmobile vids.
I think they got the latitude/longitude part backwards
Can you PLEASE tell me what the openin song is called?
I want to get a mxz 600 Zx 2000-2002 what do you guys think
Go with a late 90s mxz 670 .. Little cheaper and better sled in my opinion.
I've got an '02 Zx 440 race sled that I bought brand new off the race program. It was my last Ski-doo and kinda cool that it was the last of their trailing arm race sleds. I remember riding a demo Rev during the spring of '02 and instantly realizing my then "still new" sled was obsolete.
somebody please give me a link of a formula ss commercial
44mm twin mikuni carbs biggest carbs put on a sled in its day. I was surprised it was not in this vid.
you got the intro song to this?
+Mike Hoffman No i dont have it and dont know hos made the song /Boris
That’s like no suspension
Rotax. #1
The formulas are no match for the mach z or mach 1.
How are they figuring a formula stx or st will beat a mach z or the mach 1. Theres no way, the mach z and mach 1 will blow the formulas away.
583 was the best motor. Top end noway would it though a Mach z but it beat it all in handling one the mxz chassis due to being more sturdy on high speed corning withe tge xtra bogey wheels and shock. Had a 97 700 FORMULA III thing was scary fast. Couldnt turn it unless you let off the gas. The triples though man never forget there sound coming off trail to cross to fuel up.
Eric Macnichol.. they meant in its class i.e. polaris xlt...
@@GearheadRob319 I remember those early XLTs, the center cylinders were notorious for melting down. I pulled one off a lake once.
They broke down easily.
Same shit today
bullshit alert..
The ugly bubble years. I like Skidoo over other brands but Yamaha had the best looking sleds from the 90's to the early 2000's. Polaris was too boxy in the 90's.
man, i really liked that bullet look. still doo.
6:14
BRP burning rings pistons
All them seem the exact same to me
You should see their current lineup.
ROTAX 583
That was a great engine! You could pull quite a bit more power out of them with a little head work, carb work and a good pipe. It would also get you home after a day of riding... unlike the triples of that era.
@@kevinvesey8777 I've heard the 780 wasnt too reliable
Funny how they chose the hotter climates of the world for a Colder climate Pay to play pastime / wastetime in the Safari so-called series Snowmobiles. Definitely a huge screwup if you ask me & All of the Cold climate places on earth and you'd think they would simply choose that appropriate name for it. Like the Siberia climate etc etc, Or Himalayan climate and still riding & crashing with fogged up face Shields in the 1990's. It all in the name
that chassis was terrible. much heavier than most of the competitors. rubbish suspension.
Thor nameless
With a kill all, take no prisoners engine.
That's true. You have to look at the nagatives as well. I would still however pick ski doo over the others of this era exept mabey arctic cat they had some crazy stuff as well
Arctic cats is like buying a boat. Money pit. Skidoo polaris and then yamaha in my opinion. Did love the wildcat and thundercats thiugh. The suspension for skidoo on that chassis was basically good for straight to the point wide open power to top end drag racing or doing donuts lol. Never really thiought of them for handling with that big front end. Heavy as hell when you bury them.
@@Chevyboi1488 you should dig out a a/c thunder cat.. try that. bring help.
Rotax triples are garbo compared to Yamaha triples