Controlled Demonstration of a Tank Trailer Vacuum Collapse by Wabash National
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- On June 19, 2014 Wabash National hosted its 12th annual Walker Expo (formerly the Brenner Tank Expo), which featured leading tank brands such as Walker Transport, Brenner Tank, Beall®, Bulk Tank and Progress Tank. As part of the educational events at the Expo, Wabash orchestrated a controlled vacuum collapse or “suck-in” of a tank trailer.
Just imagine, one second you are looking out at the window of a submarine - and then the next you simply cease to exist.
it didnt have windows lol
@@1rr3gular Yes it did.
@@1rr3gularlol if it didn’t have windows what would be the point of visiting the titanic?
@@CyVincisome people just don’t think before they talk, he’s a perfect example
@@tyler2k523 indeed
Interesting to see what happens at one atmospheric pressure. Just imagine 400 atmospheric pressures acting on a vessel
really just 2/3 of an atm, since the internal pressure wasn't a complete vacuum
Unimaginable violence.
At the size of the Titan, the differential in pressure inside and outside has an energy equivalent to almost 50 kilos of TNT.
@@h.a.9880believe that!
As dramatic and entertaining as it is, this is child’s play compared to that.
This video and several others like it probably saved my life. They are the reason I gave up any hope of building a submarine that keeps occupants at normal one atmosphere pressure. These are heavy steel tanks, and the failure is instantaneous with no warning prior to failure. You do not want to be inside that thing.
Rather topical
Wish Stockton Rush had the same thinking as you
@@Jakob_Fright! I was thinking the same think. Came here to se what implosion looked like after the submersible tragedy.
Thankyou for saving others life
You should have been running Ocean Gate
Was watching with headphones, knew it would implode but the sudden sound startled me anyway.
Also happened to me and I almost jumped of where I was sitting when it happened
You know what's going to happen (somewhat) but not the timing. Holywood movie producers and editors could learn a lot from these events in building the suspense, before making people jump in their seats.
@authorization batman Yeah and I didn't ask you to comment on my comment.
This is just atmospheric pressure, imagine the violence of this reaction thousands of feet under the sea.
That’s probably what happened to the Titan while it was looking for the titanic.
@@southwaco23 I heard that the glass window was only rated to 1,300 meters and Titanic rests at 3,800 meters. That doesn’t bode well for implosion.
Can't emagine how powerful the implosion was
@@mr.nothing008i wonder how strong it was for real
Pounds of pressure is pounds of pressure tho right regardless if its air or water (or rock ect.) right? Or I think maybe youre saying there are many more pounds of pressure at 12,000+ feet deep underwater.
Now consider that the pressure differential between that tank and the outside air is a minuscule fraction of the differential between the interior of the OceanGate sub and the deep sea.
yup, the inside view is what they saw (for a brief millisecond).
And also de sub was made of carbon fiber, which would shatter and expose the tripulation into those pressures directly and instantly
@@sergiofonseca2285 1atm/30ft
@@phillyphil1513they didn’t even see it even 🥲 it compressed so fast their eyes didn’t have the chance to register movement before they were eviscerated.
Literally turned into a red mist in a fraction of a second. Wouldn’t have even been enough left for sea creatures to feast on.
did anyone notice that even after the implosion, the tank still held vacuum!!
Instablaster
It seems the tanker was still in incredibly good condition. It should have continued its service life for many more years. It is going to cost a lot to recycle it. What was a waste of a good tanker. I hope something better was made out of the metal, or at least a tanker made from it.
Tank may have a partition at the middle
@@rex_schd Petrol, diesel, and chemical tankers have partitions. Food grade transport stainless tankers do not have partitions for ease of sanitation. I wonder if this tanker was for food grade transport, like milk, or for chemical or fuel transport. It looks like the camera can see the other end.
It didn’t hold vacuum it was destroyed
Love that the editor included reactions at the end.
This is a good representation of what it was like in side the Titan sub
Not quite: Titan was much higher pressure differential and thus imploded much faster. You can see the implosion progress slowly between frames of these (presumably ~30 FPS) cameras, whereas an implosion at depth is over between one frame and the next.
I liked that the guys at the end in the audience jumped as much as I did :-)
Interesting the fail was only at one end, and it seemed to tear from the reinforcement rings.
Excellent demo, and the multiple cameras and slow motion were great.
Dude you have a good eye dam you are good seeing things
I said the same thing that guy jumped as high as the trailer did 🤣🤣🤣🤣 the guy in the jeans and white shirt…
I am amazed how close the spectators are standing to the implosion. I guess it doesn't matter vs. an explosion.
Also, being metal. Carbon fibre/epoxy would have sent shrapnel all over the place.
I enjoyed the last scene showing the guys in the crowd jump, just as it made me jump while sitting on my couch.
Also, it’s “only” one atmosphere of pressure.
Welcome to the hyperloop boiz!
You don't think things like this has been accounted for?
@@albertjackinson they haven't
@@joemama7236 You're sure about that...?
@@albertjackinson yuh you would need the tube to be much thicker it's much harder to hold negative pressure than positive pressure and you would need a vaccum pump about every 10 meters
@@joemama7236 Do you actually have information on the proposed design and expected leak rate for the hyperloop? This kind of stuff is pretty basic engineering, that's been done for MANY years and is not where the real technical challenges are. Otherwise, you're more or less saying that submarines are a lie. They can handle many atmospheres from the outside.
This blew my mind, it's not the vacuum that caused it to implode, it was the pressure of the atmosphere.
Edit (07/04/23): Guys I get it, the vacuum is necessary. What I meant was that only the atmosphere was exerting any force. Please stop replying to this comment and thank you to those who understood.
No, it's the vacuum
@@behemothinferno no.. He's correct.. it's the weight of the atmosphere pushing in from the outside trying to equalize. IF you pumped the air out of it in space nothing would happen. Because there is no atmospheric pressure difference.
@@behemothinferno Vaccuum is an absence of atmosphere. It is nothing. It can do nothing.
@@behemothinferno Put the same container on Mount Everest, or in orbit, vacuum all the air inside and you'll see nothing will happen.
This really makes you realize how much atmospheric pressure there is that the human body resists
2:50 Had my headphones up and jumped out of my freaking skin. Seeing this after hearing the news The Titan imploded. Now regretting it.
The power of difference of pressure. Internal subatmospheric pressure [Vacuum] and external atmospheric pressure acting over all tank surface. Important to note, the acting atmospheric pressure for a given area is defined and varies as per the altitude. This exerts enormous pressure over the surface of the tank leading to collapse . I congratulate the entire team for their efforts bringing this video.
So now imagine being inside of a submarine when it fails from excessive depth.
It would probably happen even faster than this.
EDIT: This is also what happens when you don't engineer for safety. It's sad 4 innocent lives needed to be lost at the hands of ignorance and arrogance.
That happened to one submarine of the argentine navy, ARA San Juan. It imploded at 800mts depth i think, was so powerful that seismographs more than one thousand miles away picked up the implosion.
Imagine being in a tin can in "space" the lunar command modules are made out of aluminum. They would be crushed it's -14.7 pressure per square inch in "space" they would be dead. Nasa lies.
this is surely the fate of USS Thresher (Navy sub that imploded in 1963)
this is also the outcome, possibly, of that Oceangate titanic-exploring mini-sub that is in the news now too :/
This aged well.
3:04 when you finish your capri sun in one succ
Who came here after the Titan Submarine disaster?
hmmmm never heard of it
Yeah, I’m sorry, the what?
At least 5 people didn't
Nope, Mythbusters revisit.
I did
Thank you, I watched this to decompress.
😄
Wut it wuz that you done thar, I seen it...
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This is what happens to my sponge cake when I open the oven door to soon.
F for your sponge cake
Here, lemme save you some time: 2:45
Underrated comment.
Much appriciated
Thankyou, kind Sir.
How is that saving time?
You need to know that information for class.
Thats whats going on in that submarine right now
POV: You're in an OceanGate Titanic Submersible...
It takes very little vacuum to destroy a big tank like this. Happens more often than you think.
Do these tanks ever explode from being pressurized too much? Any idea what the PSI limit is before it would explode?
@@vindictii Liquid tankers, like this one, would overflow before a structural failure could occur
@@thomasvlaskampiii6850 by overflow do you mean leak from somewhere? Wondering how much pressure I can pump into a tank like this before any leaks. I want to use an old one as a compressed air energy storage system
@@vindictii If you're putting a liquid into a trailer like the one in the video, it will take more liquid than it is designed to hold before it fails.
I have no idea how much air pressure a tank like this can hold. It's not designed to be air tight so air will probably leak before you can get it to a high enough pressure for it to explode
@@thomasvlaskampiii6850 ahh ok i thought it was air tight. Good to know, thanks!
When you perform a random destructive test that truly proves that you have a good product thank you for this video✍🏻
Wow to think that's only at most one atmosphere of pressure, wild.
+plasmawisp It was almost two ATM.
Anton Zuykov exactly as he said.
you are removing air from inside.
a perfect vacuum is 0 atmosphere. you cannot create a "negative" atmosphere
that means what is pressing in is the atmosphere of earth Ie 1 atmosphere.
We are talking about P = ~~100 000 pa after all.
Lets say the length of the cylindrical part is is 13 meters and the radius of the tank is 1.5 meters. If we approximates the ends as flat then the area would then be...
A = pi*r^2 + 2pi*r*d
Where r = ~1.5 m and d = ~13 m.
The total area would be something like A = ~130 m^2.
Multiply the area with the pressure and you get the total force on the tank.
F = A*P = ~13.000.000 N (N for newton).
If your weight is 100 Kg then you would normally experience a force of ~982 N due to gravity.
14.7 psi = 760.2095 torr
Outer Space = 10^-7 torr
Do you still believe a hole in the ISS wouldn't instantly scrunch it like a tin can? You want to plug the vacuum hose with your finger? Think cloth Kapton tape and glue over the vacuum hose would stop this tanker from collapsing?
@@Wildcat5181 no its not two ATM, its only 3/4 ATM.
1 atm(14.7 psi) is 29.9 inch of Mercury,
.768 atm(11.3 psi) is 23 inch of mercury. 2 Atm is 60inches of mercury.
POV you are a billionaire
The sub implosion would’ve been far more violent than this. Far greater pressure difference. Not a comparison imo.
There really is no comparison. This is just to give you a visual of what it could be. Imagination can do the rest
The reality is mind bending.
There was a lot of fuel involved.
This alone is hellish enough. Imagine 400 times more violent. Yikes
it impoded at about the same minus pressure as the Myth Busters experiment on tank cars.
That was awesome to see it from the inside. THANK YOU!
The pressure of our atmosphere is incredible
No, it's only about 14.7psi at sea level, the pressure of the OCEAN at great depth is enormous.
OK, let's see this on Venus. Wabash National would have the best Super Bowl advert in history.
When it comes to suction, the most amazing example I've seen is where these divers open a large oil pipe that extends off-shore. Amazingly enough they were not killed by the initial vacuum that occurred in a blink of an eye.
Delta p?
Terrifying that Titan may have went through this
Except - would've been 380 times more powerful.
The most painless death possible.
This tank collapsing at 14 PSI vs Titan at 5800 PSI.
So... they didn't. They just became literally *juice* without getting a single electrical pulse to their brain to realize it.
In just a milliseconds the Oceangate passengers was instantly vaporized.
Imagine this, but 375 times more aggressive, and what the Titan submersible went through within a split second. RIP explorers.
I literally couldn’t imagine man. That’s why I’m here I wanted to get an idea. The fact that it’s 1000x more violent this was. Sheesh
Do you mean imploders?
Not only that, but with weaker material as well
No way they'd feel any pain nor know they were about to die
5000 psi.
Thank you, thank you, thank you! I had no idea. I plan on purchasing a tank and didn’t know that I had to keep the man hole open while removing waste.
Pending on what type of waste product. Some you air-off, pump off, and vacuum off with a blower. If it's flammable you pump off, that being said....... OPEN THE HATCH WHEN USING POSITIVE DISPLACEMENT PUMP. OR YOUR TANK WILL DO THAT.
At least they didn't feel anything. You know who I'm talking about.
14 psi
I imagine it's like having a person every square inch pressing on it with one hand at the same time. That would actually be cool to film.
I have a vacuum lumber dryer and the interior is held at 7 Two8 inches of vacuum What does that correlate to what I just saw here? My chamber is half inch stainless with reinforced outer framing . It must be extreme overkill its designed for 0 vacuum. I'm trying to figure out how thin of metal I could go with.
I know why your here. Me too. R.I.P.
I had this very thing happen with a milk tanker at an unloading facility when the pressure relief valve failed to work/open.
The unloading facility pumps unload @ 100'000L per hour from my 34'000L trailer.
The stainless steel trailer imploded in LESS THAN 15 Seconds!!!!
It sounded just like crushing a soda can under foot, but just much louder!
The steel chassis rails on the trailer were bent beyond repair.
Both terrible and impressive at the same time...
Anyone else here because of the Titan submarine?
Remember the Titan
dont remember it
you can see the tank lift, pivoting from the left. The breakage point is where that support is on the right. To be fair if it was bolted down who knows how much and where it would break then.
I like the camera placed inside the tank. A nice example of what happens…. Cool!
They Need the Slow Mo Guy filming this
This is why we don’t close the valves and the dome lids right after a specified wash in the cold winter time. Going from a bay with an ambient temperature of 90F to an outside temperature of 15F.
I think that has more to do with thermal expansion/contraction right? Going from hot to cold would DECREASE the pressure inside as the atoms would slow down.
@@codyj9983Ya that's the point. It would decrease the pressure inside the tank and cause a partial vacuum inside the tank.
No matter what the tank is made of, the rings will stay intact because the tank has to implode first.
POV: You're inside of submarine chilling and 3:40
This in no way illustrates the speed and violence of a smaller vessel holding out to astronomical pressures, and failing in a microsecond.
exceptional education and amazing testing As part of an educational event at the Expo, the helper Wabash controlled vacuuming or "vacuuming" the tank trailer.
Titan submarine simulation
it was much worse, about 400x worse, because pressure was 400x higher than atmospheric
Hey, no pressure buddy, you've got this!
Local brewery had a problem with this happening to their tanker trucks. Turned out, they steam cleaned them and their proceedure was accidentally causing a vacuum to form in the tanker if a valve didn't open fast enough.
It cost a lot of money. And the person following the company proceedure got the flak for it since then tanker manufacturer proceedure said not to do that....
should have built it out of carbon fiber.
...and that's only 14.7 psi, imagine 5000.
Time lapse and slo-motion video appreciated. 👍
I've never cared about implosions, but OceanGate's CEO should've.
Rip Ocean gate titan submarine
RIP Oceangate Titan crew.
Holy f that was a great explanation of what happens to implosion using a big tanker to really say its very dangerous down there 😳
Now imagine the OceanGate sub imploding with 5,500 psi of pressure. At least they didn't suffer. RIP OG Crew.
Thats what you call becoming one with your surroundings most realistic VR game ever.
Who else is here to see how it could look like from the inside of the Titan from OceanGate?
Yup, fast.
would be even worse, whole submarine squeezed into a cube or pancake. Plus bodies explode when pressure changes rapidly.
And to think, the submarine that imploded was experiencing 50x that pressure differential.
400x that pressure differential.
now imagine 400x more powerful implosion than this and your body will disintegrate.
The submersible implodes 100x than this
365 times...this was 1atm pressure....titan was equivalent to 365 atm.
Also amazing that the tank did not seem to rupture, the guage did not return to 0, just jumped as the collapse equalized(some of) the negative pressure
3:55 the top right three guys all were staring at their shoes or asleep when it happened, lol
The guy in tan pants jumped as high as the tank did - indicating he also experienced a massive offloading accident.
The rapid equalization of pressure across his exit nozzle would have been catastrophic for his pants and anyone standing nearby.
Thank God no one was hurt.
Awe shucks, I was wanting to take that tanker to the Titanic to look around
This is probably the most significant reason why the Hyperloop transport system is probably a really bad idea.
they will have reinforcement
@@twasbrillig33 so does the trailer
@@mrmaniac3 less than a unvoming tunnel with no weight restrictions
it's only 14 psi lol
a reminder that you are constantly being crushed the same way that tank is.
"Autobots, transform and roll out!" 3:40
just here because of the thing
I've seen like 5+ of these kind of videos in the past few days in my recommended lol
The Titan
Impressive. The nice thing was the last shot, showing what happens to the audience: they jump!
And a question: I have always understood that inside the tank there are some disks or partial disks, to reduce the effect of longitudal waves in the tank. Why don't I see these here?
They are called baffles. food grade tanks that need to be cleaned don’t have internal baffles, because it makes them too hard to clean properly. From what I understand, tank trailers without baffles must be driven more carefully to minimize the effects of undamped sloshing. BTW, I am not a CDL holder.
@@keithalaird Thank you! That is the informaton I was looking for!
@@keithalaird I'm baffled by your comment. I must not be food grade.
This is errie with that submarine disaster. 😮
Who is here after the Ocean Gate submarine tragedy??
Did you notice no baffles? That would make it harder to implode!
Note to self, scrap plans to build submersible out of hard plastic. 😂
This was your preview of a hyperloop failure.
Hyperloop will not operate in a complete vaccum. Also, the pod traveling within the "tube" will be pressurized. A lot safer than a catastrophic compromise of an aircraft's hull 35,000 feet.
But its not a vacuum tanker! Its a DOT 407, I believe. At least what it appears like to me.
@@Tron-Jockey Here's perspectives.They said they brought the inside of the container to endure 10.5 PSI of outside pressure before it collapsed. So the inside was at around 4.2 PSI. The outside PSI level at 35,000 feet is about 3.46 PSI. So they were only at the equivalent of about 31000 feet or 65% vacuum. Hyperloop plans for the inside of the tube to be the equivalent of 200,000 feet in the air or 99.9% (near vacuum). It gets exponentially harder the closer you get. They would need to build something more complex than the triple vacuum system at Cern which has over 3500 pumps and isn't big enough to transport a Lego figurine through it.
@@Tron-Jockey I also believe you misunderstand the "compromise of a high altitude catastrophe. At 35,000 feet they only have the inside to around 11.3 PSI to normalize the outside pressure which is 3.46 PSI. So the pressure is actually the inside pushing out. If there's a rupture, as long as the initial rupture doesn't break a piece of the structure vital to flying the aircraft you're fine. There's only 1 issue... breathing. This is why oxygen masks fall down during a rapid depressurization. The breathable air all went out and the new air is too thin to breath the higher you are, 35,000 feet you only have 15-30 seconds before you pass out. I'd take the 15-30 seconds to put on the oxygen mask vs instantly crushed.
lol near vacuum is way less air pressure than the air at 35000 feet even a quick google could have told you that this wasn't even close to a vacuum when it collapsed
3:38 POV: Inside a submarine at crush depth (excludes wall of freezing water, atmosphere ignition, shrapnel)
I suppose it was only a matter of time before people would be coming here for this very reason..
This implosion was caused by a pressure difference of 6 psi. The Titan was under 4000 psi 😳
You're not the brightest...
Anyone else watch this video because of the titan disaster?
Seeing as my father built this tank trailer... Im glad to see it exceeded expectations.... wow... and thats just a small vaccuum
That is a lot of vacuum. Exceeded 22 PSI...
The really neat part is that was a reinforced tank with vacuum rings. A "Standard" tank car without the reinforcing rings would have gone at a much lower vacuum.
The narrator stated that this tank is not designed for vacuum and the insulation was removed. Those are insulation rings.
Ocean Gate story follower checking in. I'm sure this video will have 16 mil views in no time.
CZcams really recommended this after the sub accident
Now I realize what would have happened to the passengers of OceanGate submersible.
I used to repair a plethora of these type tank trucks from the inside out, welding them and pushing them back out into shape.
For some unknown reason implosions are very popular with the CZcams algorithm now.
With this, one should be able to start designing templates for simulations. Do that first before going down in a plastic sub.
Dam those interior shots I imagine if people were inside there
Rip Titan
This is either narrated by the guy that text to speech voice was based on or is the best text to speech engine ever.
Once the hull of the Titan submersible failed it imploded about 100 times faster than this tanker. Those men felt no pain, but God rest their souls.
Our vacuum tankers can do 26-28 inches of mercury easily everyday. Those tankers aren't designed for vacuum.
Tube of toothpaste comes to mind when thinking of Titan
Wow I drove a fuel tanker. We had all kinds of safety training watched videos of explosions and fire's tankers flipping on turns. Tanker surging through stops. Never once did they mention vacuum implosion hazard. I last drove tanker in 1994 maybe it's part of training now?