I am surprised by the number of negative comments and some of those totally inaccurate. This is not a rebranded Panasonic, and there are no plans for Panasonic to produce one. The sensor may be a few years old, but it is still superb, and 17m pixels are more than enough for 95% of photographers. Go and pick one up, handle it, try it and then maybe you will be qualified to be critical.
Different controls and menu system and a much HIGHER price than the LX100 MkII. The menu and physical controls are now very like the Leica Q series. You could not mistake this for a Panasonic design although it is probably made at a Panasonic factory and retains the lens and key features common to the LX100.
@@hedydd2 That's the problem. Basically a Panasonic LX100ii in photo capability since sensor and lens are the same. So basically paying a LOT more for the Leica name and a new menu system.
Not really no. The user interface is vastly different and reason enough to buy the camera. Its integration with the Leica app on your phone is so good, your phone and the camera basically merge together and can operate really seamlessly between each other. So in reality the user experience is very different to the older Panasonic.
This is almost true, but only on paper. Technical data does not take photos ;) I have both of these cameras. Lumix for 2 years. Leica for 3 days. The photo effects obtained with both devices are VISIBLY different. I won't judge the filming - it doesn't interest me. I won't be surprised if this little Leica becomes legendary.
That's the question nobody can seem to confirm. But Leigh & Raymond Photography says, _"The Leica D-Lux 8 "retains all of the Leica DNA, like the natural color science ..."_
I assume it’s just a rebadged Panasonic camera… that’s no bad thing as I once owned the D-Lux 5 but in today’s market, I’d have thought it would have had a larger sensor (both megapixels and size) as 17 megapixels is limiting to be honest.
Maybe it's just me, but it seems like every single one of the sample photos could have come from an iPhone if I didn't know any better. I'm sure the shooting experience is great, but oooof, that price...
I check some DNG files from that camera, not even near to iPhone or smartphone photography. Micro four thirds sensor is huge compare to 1 inch and below sensors of phones … btw if you watch on a screen even a photo from a Sony A1 looks pretty like an IPhone 😅
Leica selling a new camera with an eight-year-old sensor and auto focus system is proof that Sony has a complete monopoly. Buying such a camera is violence toward the photographic arts.
shooting a bad picture with latest sensor tech is violence towards "photographic arts". choose the equipment that you can bound with and produce the best result is the way
There's nothing wrong with '8 year old tech'. I haven't seen a bad review and the age of the tech hasn't affected the camera or photographers ability to make beautiful photos, and to print those up to really large prints (16"x22") with no noticeable drop off in quality. I suppose it may not be the camera for someone who wants to be able to reel off specifications and expect people to be impressed though.
@@huwprice881 you haven’t seen a bad review because they aren’t reviews their influencers who have been given pre-release copy of a new camera in exchange for advertising for the new camera. You sound like a marketing department moonlighting on CZcams as a real human.
@@suloea sure, it’s good to challenge yourself with 8 year old tech and no ability to print large format. I admire you’re willing to handicap yourself so other commercial photographers can get the job.
Nice review and sample photos looked great thanks!
Thanks for this info/review. I like this Leica offering. I would like to see more tests of the image quality. But looks promising.
informative content thanks Wex.
Thanks John
I am surprised by the number of negative comments and some of those totally inaccurate. This is not a rebranded Panasonic, and there are no plans for Panasonic to produce one. The sensor may be a few years old, but it is still superb, and 17m pixels are more than enough for 95% of photographers. Go and pick one up, handle it, try it and then maybe you will be qualified to be critical.
Highly likely we will see a panasonic version soon
Now Olympus seem to have given up on the EPL10 Pen and similar cameras, this seems to be the only option
If it phase detect af it would be a nice camera
Is there any difference between this camera and the LUMIX LX100 II, apart from maybe 5-6 years in release date??
Better EVF, Leica UI and a new processor. The rest is mostly cosmetic.
Just a rebadged Panasonic LX100 ii introduced in 2018. Same sensor, same controls, etc. And at a MUCH lower price.
Different controls and menu system and a much HIGHER price than the LX100 MkII. The menu and physical controls are now very like the Leica Q series. You could not mistake this for a Panasonic design although it is probably made at a Panasonic factory and retains the lens and key features common to the LX100.
@@hedydd2 That's the problem. Basically a Panasonic LX100ii in photo capability since sensor and lens are the same. So basically paying a LOT more for the Leica name and a new menu system.
Not really no. The user interface is vastly different and reason enough to buy the camera. Its integration with the Leica app on your phone is so good, your phone and the camera basically merge together and can operate really seamlessly between each other. So in reality the user experience is very different to the older Panasonic.
This is almost true, but only on paper. Technical data does not take photos ;) I have both of these cameras. Lumix for 2 years. Leica for 3 days. The photo effects obtained with both devices are VISIBLY different. I won't judge the filming - it doesn't interest me. I won't be surprised if this little Leica becomes legendary.
@@achillesmjb then do not buy it but stop whining like a spoiled brat 😜
Does it support leica looks?
That's the question nobody can seem to confirm. But Leigh & Raymond Photography says, _"The Leica D-Lux 8 "retains all of the Leica DNA, like the natural color science ..."_
No
They don`t give you a grip so they can sell you one.
Ferrari exterior with a VW bug interior
STILL no phase detect AF in 2024 UGH
I assume it’s just a rebadged Panasonic camera… that’s no bad thing as I once owned the D-Lux 5 but in today’s market, I’d have thought it would have had a larger sensor (both megapixels and size) as 17 megapixels is limiting to be honest.
Problem is, it's an old Panasonic. Why buy this for higher the price when The LX100 II exists with better handling? I don't get it.
7 years old Panasonic, also known as crap for today’s average standards.
Why is 17 megapixel limiting ?
@@r423sdex yea why not 12 megapixal and charge $2K for it lol
@@r423sdex see how much the quality of the image is after editing and cropping drops…
4/3 in 2024 are you serious?
Maybe it's just me, but it seems like every single one of the sample photos could have come from an iPhone if I didn't know any better. I'm sure the shooting experience is great, but oooof, that price...
😂😂😂 its a m4/3 such a tiny sensor
I check some DNG files from that camera, not even near to iPhone or smartphone photography. Micro four thirds sensor is huge compare to 1 inch and below sensors of phones … btw if you watch on a screen even a photo from a Sony A1 looks pretty like an IPhone 😅
Leica selling a new camera with an eight-year-old sensor and auto focus system is proof that Sony has a complete monopoly. Buying such a camera is violence toward the photographic arts.
shooting a bad picture with latest sensor tech is violence towards "photographic arts". choose the equipment that you can bound with and produce the best result is the way
There's nothing wrong with '8 year old tech'. I haven't seen a bad review and the age of the tech hasn't affected the camera or photographers ability to make beautiful photos, and to print those up to really large prints (16"x22") with no noticeable drop off in quality. I suppose it may not be the camera for someone who wants to be able to reel off specifications and expect people to be impressed though.
@@huwprice881 you haven’t seen a bad review because they aren’t reviews their influencers who have been given pre-release copy of a new camera in exchange for advertising for the new camera. You sound like a marketing department moonlighting on CZcams as a real human.
@@t-money561. I'll take the advice of photographers who have had hands on experience over someone who's not even seen one, thank you.
@@suloea sure, it’s good to challenge yourself with 8 year old tech and no ability to print large format. I admire you’re willing to handicap yourself so other commercial photographers can get the job.
Made in China
Most things are these days so what is the problem with that? Nothing new there…
@maniecristobal -- So are most Apple products; so is the Fuji X-100VI, etc.
Who cares !
as iphones and nearly every other camera 😜