"3500 Characters vs. 26 Letters: Efficient or Inefficient?" by Kening Li

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  • Presented by: Kening Li, Asian Languages and Cultures, University of Michigan
    Event Date: Wednesday, November 9, 2016
    People unfamiliar with the Chinese language are often amazed by the sheer number of characters used in the language. A Chinese user needs to know about 3,500 characters in order to have a greater than 99% comprehension of the content of an ordinary newspaper article. Compared to the 26 letters in the Roman alphabet, that seems like a lot. But is this an accurate comparison? Are characters in Chinese really equivalent to the letters in an alphabetic language? Does having over 3,000 common characters really make Chinese inefficient, placing an extra burden on learners? In this talk, I will show how characters function in Chinese by discussing what the characters really stand for; the difference between characters and words; how words are formed in Chinese-and how that process differs in Classical vs. Modern Chinese. No Chinese or linguistic knowledge is required.
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Komentáře • 212

  • @vanBrunnel
    @vanBrunnel Před 3 lety +29

    I love this video! The fact that 500 of the most common words give you access to 75% (!) of the language has really motivated me. Awesome!

    • @Liliquan
      @Liliquan Před rokem

      More nonsense. It doesn't even give access to 1% of the language.
      Bob ____ the ball ____ Mary ____ caught it _____ George called ____ attention.
      How you going to read the language if all the sentences are like this?
      An average Chinese speaker knows about 30 000 words. The same goes for English speakers.
      But go ahead and try and manage with 500.

  • @Bai_Su_Zhen
    @Bai_Su_Zhen Před 2 lety +1

    What an awesome video I just found. Thank you.

  • @Fulinfang
    @Fulinfang Před 5 lety +5

    Really liked this video. Very interesting for me.

    • @yfang6962
      @yfang6962 Před 5 lety +1

      Fulinfang拂菻坊 I love you. You are soooo cute.

  • @000FURQAN
    @000FURQAN Před 7 lety +4

    best intro of mandarin i have ever seen in 5 years of learning chinese. bravo

  • @GradyGillis
    @GradyGillis Před 6 lety +2

    非常感谢你. Very helpful information that helps me to make sense of Chinese "word" structure. First I've heard of the morphemic structure with bound and free morphemes. 非常非常好!!!

  •  Před 6 lety +3

    Brilliant lecture

  • @richardseverson4992
    @richardseverson4992 Před 4 lety +12

    This is by far the best explanation of Chinese vs; English and what is harder to learn, I now know Chinese is not so hard to learn, and is a very interesting and fun language because of how they put there words together, much less to remember than English - Thanks so much what an Excellent video and demonstration

  • @brighthorse6981
    @brighthorse6981 Před 4 lety +13

    26:45 the basic meaning of “安” is "safe" in Chinese, so a woman in the house means safe

    • @lookingfortruth1930
      @lookingfortruth1930 Před 3 lety +7

      The basic meaning of 家 is family in Chinese, so a pig on the house so that means we are Pigs

    • @Liliquan
      @Liliquan Před rokem +2

      You cannot reasonably expect the structure of the character to represent newer meanings.
      The original usage of 安 was "to sit quietly" and the original structure was a woman doing such.
      In 家 the bottom part wasn't originally 豕 but something else which gave the pronunciation of the character.

  • @kick-S-ssh
    @kick-S-ssh Před 6 lety +1

    Good presentation !

  • @brendasaller
    @brendasaller Před 5 lety +6

    The equivalent to letters are the radicals 26 vs 214... The main problem teaching chinese is that you begin with characters and it should be with radicals... I am learning that way

    • @My-nl6sg
      @My-nl6sg Před 5 lety +5

      Learning spoken Mandarin and written Chinese normally happens at the same time so it's hard to start from radicals. but it's true that characters make a whole lot more sense if they teach it in terms of the radicals

  • @fabriciosouza408
    @fabriciosouza408 Před 6 lety +4

    Very good presentation professor! Is the presentation available for download?

  • @metakatana
    @metakatana Před 5 lety +15

    Mandarin Chinese is difficult to learn at first due to memorization, but it is a very logical language with easy straightforward grammar, and in the end it pays off to memorize all those characters. (There are also radicals in characters). English has a lot of inconsistencies with grammar and spelling (ex: sword doesnt rhyme with word, "k" is silent in knowledge, etc.) and the average high school student knows about 30,000 to 50,000 English vocabulary words, which is way more than 3500-5000 Chinese characters.

    • @lookingfortruth1930
      @lookingfortruth1930 Před 4 lety +2

      Starr Xu I think there are way too many homonyms in mandarin. Rather learn cantonese since there a re less homonyms. Mandarin most common homonyms are SHI, JI, and QI.

    • @seafood_hater
      @seafood_hater Před 3 lety +2

      @@lookingfortruth1930 Cantonese has more tones though, which is also a challenge in itself.

    • @juyngkwogayo206
      @juyngkwogayo206 Před 3 lety +4

      About the memorizing part, I think this is a very very false statement. This misconception has been going on for years regarding the Chinese language as memorizing characters.
      You don’t learn 26 or a little more letters (in other western languages) and master their language. You still have to memorize the meaning of words that these letters make up.
      How do I know “t” “w” “o” means “number two” whereas “t” “o” “o” means also. Isn’t that memorization as well? “Tú” is English has no meaning but it means you in Spanish and a name in vietnamese. So either way you can’t escape memorization. You just have to memorize words/characters.
      Memorization is not a characteristic of Chinese but is a component of learning in every language.

    • @tfan2222
      @tfan2222 Před 2 lety

      @@juyngkwogayo206 “Tú” means “you” in Spanish. Where the hell did you get the idea it meant “two”?

    • @juyngkwogayo206
      @juyngkwogayo206 Před 2 lety +1

      @@tfan2222 haha sorry. That was an error. You are correct. You don’t have to swear. Irregardless of what it means, you still have to memorize it to know what it means.

  • @bonvabriones
    @bonvabriones Před 6 lety +1

    Interesting presentation.
    Thanks for uploading.
    Are the slides available anywhere?

  • @wendi4770
    @wendi4770 Před 6 lety +1

    The developments of writing tools might have great impacts on the distinctions of characters.

  • @francischan1945
    @francischan1945 Před rokem +4

    🏓😎🏓 As you know “ all mathematics “ are the universal language for science ‼️ because being an abstract language it’s independent of the written language of different countries ❗️Therefore being an abstract language like Chinese it’s not dependent on the pronunciation of it’s words 《 They can be pronounced in 56 different ways without changing their meanings at all in China. 》So I am sorry to say that Chinese language should be the universal language for the whole world by any right⁉️

  • @austineverett100
    @austineverett100 Před 6 lety

    so good!

  • @ElementaryChinese
    @ElementaryChinese Před 6 lety +2

    I made it 20 minutes AND I'll finish the rest later. NICE, informative lecture Miss Li!!

  • @clonkex
    @clonkex Před rokem +1

    This is support useful information for a Chinese beginner. I was initially pretty confused why sometimes it seemed like Chinese characters were letters and sometimes they were words. Now I understand they're morphemes and it all makes so much more sense.

    • @Henry-teach-Chinese-in-jokes
      @Henry-teach-Chinese-in-jokes Před rokem

      I’ve spent about 100,000 hours studying English humor and Western culture. My native language is Chinese. I’m teaching Chinese language in jokes and pictures. It makes learning Chinese funny and much easier. Laughter can help us reduce tensions.

  • @onlythistube
    @onlythistube Před 6 lety +5

    A language that includes already clues / is self-explanatory about phonetics is in my view superior. Also how do we define efficiency? Learning, speaking, writing, especially when it comes to the expressing / extracting the same amount of data in a coherent, easy to understand and universal manner? I am no linguistic expert, but a language like english f.e. seems to be more easy to learn (therefore its global success outside the native english speaking countries) and more logical in regard to learning and ease of expressing and extracting overall meaning from a word or sentence.

  • @Hamsters831
    @Hamsters831 Před 3 lety +4

    Great job the Chinese made trying to keep all the meaning alive from the oracle bones to today's age. By combining them you get characters with multiple pronunciations depending on which word is next to it. And if you never see it before you will have no idea how to pronounce it except looking up a dictionary and it's combinations and the pronunciation and the meaning of that and just remembering it. But if course instead of doing that you can guess or just skip over it and just feel it's ok. Definitely a language that is created with meritocracy in mind. Only those with good memory can attain a high level of education. No wonder the Chinese remember their history so well..

  • @KuraSourTakanHour
    @KuraSourTakanHour Před 6 lety +24

    Strictly speaking, the 214 radicals are the *characters* that make up Hanzi, so there is much less memorization than the title suggests, because all the ideographs are composed of these 214 in various combination. Of course, it is still the most of any language in either case

    • @georgeherzog5929
      @georgeherzog5929 Před 11 měsíci

      Well, traditional Mandarin has 214 radicals, but simplified Mandarin has 227 radicals organized differently.
      So how does one master both?

    • @BrunoNeureiter
      @BrunoNeureiter Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@georgeherzog5929As for anything else, practice.

    • @georgeherzog5929
      @georgeherzog5929 Před 8 měsíci

      You over-simplify. Add in the Ten Heavenly Stems and the Twelve Earthly Branches. Also, as I previously mentioned, the Traditional Radicals are not the same as the Simplified Radicals in form or number.
      I prefer to study Traditional Chinese
      At least I know what I need to learn.

  • @davidle438
    @davidle438 Před 4 lety +4

    Well, I am from Vietnam. Up until the French came, our writing was just like Chinese. We use western alphabets to write now and I don't think anyone would choose to go back to write like Chinese.

    • @brighthorse6981
      @brighthorse6981 Před 4 lety +3

      In this way, you cannot understand the historical data of your country, so your historical knowledge only rests on the government's propaganda to you. I think this is the reason why many Vietnamese hatred the Chinese, but this is not the point, and the Chinese people not care much. The point is that the history culture of your country will be cut off in decades.

    • @seafood_hater
      @seafood_hater Před 3 lety

      @@brighthorse6981 Knowledge is power, and language alone has taken that away from them. The power of language!

  • @AMIR-nm7fo
    @AMIR-nm7fo Před 2 lety +2

    THANK YOU FOR YOUR VIDEO AND VERY INTERESTING PRESENTATION. I'M NOT AFRAID OF CHINESE ANY MORE.... TOO BAD THAT THE RESOLUTION IN CZcams IS NOT THAT SHARP TO SEE THE CHARACTERS.

  • @user-ss1zn7lp1r
    @user-ss1zn7lp1r Před 2 měsíci

    Practically, learn 150 words and about 30 radical commonly used. From 100 words can expand to 1000 words easily

  • @bumpty9830
    @bumpty9830 Před 2 lety

    People of the past: if late 2016 was hard on your mood, buckle the fuck up.
    Enjoyed the talk! I usually hear the Chinese writing system called a "logosyllabary," which is a fair description for Literary Chinese, but I think your description as "morphemic" is a better description for modern Standard Chinese. Thanks!

  • @ffederel
    @ffederel Před 2 lety +1

    In practical terms: Quite often, if you know the individual characters, you can come to understand new words as you read without looking up in the dictionary.

  • @maliktayyab7376
    @maliktayyab7376 Před 6 lety +6

    Good to see this, I am also student of Confucius.

    • @animaki5372
      @animaki5372 Před 6 lety

      I've been researching into speaking Mandarin easily and found a fantastic resource at Magic Mandarin Blueprint (google it if you are interested)

  • @sednalkram
    @sednalkram Před 6 lety +3

    They are NOT pictographs or ideographs, although there were a few initially --- they are words (representations of sounds/names for things)... Each character is either one of the 214 "radicals" which hint as to the category --and the other half of the character generally gives a hint as to the sound. You learn them the same way kids do...write words (better yet) sentences over and over.

  • @heahea1621
    @heahea1621 Před 3 lety

    Letters appeared on the head projector were too small, but they were interesting anyway.

  • @danielm.4346
    @danielm.4346 Před 7 měsíci

    That blue on her forehead looked great.
    And when over the eyes too, hah ha, that was great.

  • @jackamt4351
    @jackamt4351 Před 4 lety +6

    Excellent academic presentation. Thank you. However if Chinese is such an efficient language why it has not been adopted as a worldwide language of communication in the past and, of course, in modern times? What you think the reasons could be? I would appreciate a reply. Thank you.

    • @nguyentuananh467
      @nguyentuananh467 Před 3 lety +1

      No reply appropriate right now! Because the fact is Chinese is based on pictography, not phonography mainly! So people remember "sound" better than "picture".

    • @torrawel
      @torrawel Před 2 lety +2

      Cause we in the west are too lazy :)
      But also because of history. English became the world language because of the colonization (of India, of Australia, and of course North America), and then the economic power of the US. We are still living in a US-dominant world (which even expanded with the invention of the internet and social media). It might change one day, but as long as the US stays the most powerful nation, English will be the dominant language. The fact that we're writing in English here says enough.
      By the way, the US is becoming more and more Spanish speaking, so it might be so that Spanish (if the US stays the dominant power) will take over as the international language. Who knows.
      Chinese would be cool but again, I think that most westerners (not even speaking of the Arabic world or the Indian subcontinent), are to lazy to even learn the 200 or so radicals. Maybe the use of pinyin would be acceptable by others. Let's wait and see! :)

    • @wongcw08
      @wongcw08 Před 2 lety

      @@nguyentuananh467 Looks like you didn't watch the entire video...

    • @Bai_Su_Zhen
      @Bai_Su_Zhen Před 2 lety +1

      I also haven't watched the entire video yet but my guess would be that the argument is not that Chinese is the most efficient or easy to learn language, rather that the structure of words within Chinese makes a lot of logical sense when you think about it. You still have massive amounts of learning to do to even be able to use this logic in the first place though.

    • @menonalevi6984
      @menonalevi6984 Před rokem

      English was an imposed language by the British Empire through colonialism: Meanwhile, China has never impose their language through force.

  • @bai3shu4
    @bai3shu4 Před 6 lety +1

    Shouldn't we count the number of radicals instead of characters? Because radicals are like the letters in English as the basic components that are used to build up the words. Right?

  • @PursuingHeaven
    @PursuingHeaven Před 4 lety

    I am currently studying Pinyin to be able to understand how to pronounce Chinese words better like names. I appreciate this presentation. I recommend working a bit on your presentation skills. Many times you were not in the frame of the camera and it made it very difficult to follow you in the lecture. I think you would have been better served if you would have created a slide for each major way characters were created with an example rather than using a wipe off-board. But overall I felt that I got a good deal of information. I am not certain if I am going to advance to writing the hanzi (3500 characters, not certain I have enough time left to live for that endeavor lol) but I appreciate this comparison

    • @ImHeadshotSniper
      @ImHeadshotSniper Před 4 lety +1

      if you're trying to learn a Chinese language and are focusing on the pinyin, you're wasting your time. google image "pinyin tone", that's literally ALL you have to remember. other than that, you will naturally pick up pinyin pronunciation (as long as you're listening to it) as you learn the Hanzi.
      make some flashcards for yourself or something to learn the Hanzi, it's really not that difficult

  • @davidkane9657
    @davidkane9657 Před 2 lety

    很好谢谢老师

  • @francischan3109
    @francischan3109 Před rokem +3

    🏓😎🏓 Do you know how the Chinese word “contradiction” was created ? The story behind the creation of the word “contradiction” in Chinese two notes compound word “矛盾” or “spear-shield” in English language is very interesting ! The story went something like this ~ one day a customer passed through a hunting store and saw the owner of the store selling his spear 🗡️ by saying his spears are so powerful that it will penetrate any shield 🛡️ you might have ! Then the customer asked the owner how good is the shield 🛡️ he was selling ? The owner said his shields🛡️ are so powerful that no spear can penetrate them ! Then the customer asked the store’s owner what if by using his spear against his own shield 🛡️? This store owner was speechless ! Hence the word “contradiction “ or “矛盾” was created !

    • @francischan3109
      @francischan3109 Před rokem +1

      ❤ ie. Chinese can using existing vocabulary to create new vocabulary very efficiently ‼️

  • @sednalkram
    @sednalkram Před 6 lety +1

    another word for bound is binomial.

  • @user-yp9fj3gp4l
    @user-yp9fj3gp4l Před 6 lety +19

    I am Chinese!I hope I can teach Chinese someday :)

    • @jimgreen6268
      @jimgreen6268 Před 6 lety +2

      Erika 1 You are a studious person.I can also help you with your Chinese if you need me. 😄

    • @jimgreen6268
      @jimgreen6268 Před 6 lety +1

      Erika 1 by the way my email is xycl0001@Gmail.com

    • @user-yp9fj3gp4l
      @user-yp9fj3gp4l Před 6 lety +1

      Sorry...I need to improve my English first..But I want to recommend an APP for you: HelloTalk...And a website:english.cntv.cn/learnchinese/

    • @user-yp9fj3gp4l
      @user-yp9fj3gp4l Před 6 lety +1

      Hope you make progress every day!

    • @WCiossek
      @WCiossek Před 6 lety +2

      黄凯剑: Do you know a chinese guy who can teach me chinese and in my way to teach him german? English is not my native language!

  • @paulandrew600
    @paulandrew600 Před 6 lety +6

    Plenty of information to digest. Not the best presentation. At the back of the classroom difficult to read the board.

  • @phoenixfeathers1232
    @phoenixfeathers1232 Před rokem

    There are some things she doesnt talk about, not all simplified characters go back to the original form , the reason we like traditional characters is because they hold more of the meaning of the character, for example "listen "听 in simplified characters used the mouth radical, whilst the traditional form uses the ear (to listen)as its radical 聼,another thing we could mention is how in simplified chinese characters there is no difference between the character hou for "afterwards"以后 and Empres 皇后 whereas the traditional characters for these words are very different, traditional charcters clearly define the meaning, 後 is afterwards and 后 for Empress, another thing is for characters for hair, hair on the temples, hair in general, moustache etc you will see the radical which tells you very clearly the meaning is related to hair : traditional characters 頭髪 hair , moustache : 鬍子have the same radical denoting hair, the simplified character just uses 头发for hair. 发 does not show the characters meaning as related to hair, its just phonetically the same sound and its the same character as used in "to discover"发现,whereas, the traditional charcters for these two words are showing you clearly they are different in meaning :髪 hair, 發現(discover)if we look at love 爱 in the simplified version it has taken away the central part of the character which is "heart" if we lookat the traditional character for love we can see 愛 has the character for the heart at its centre, whereas the simplfied 爱has no heart in love !!! For me when I was learning Chinese, the traditional characters though they have more strokes , are aesthetically more beautiful and meaningful, for the student, they are logical and so in fact, easier to remember, I have to thank my teacher who taught Chinese from the radicals which is the best way to learn even though slower, it gives you a fantastic foundation of understanding the building blocks of Chinese characters , and in the days when i was learning , many dictionaries for chinese characters were arranged according to what radical the character had, we looked up its meaning via the radical then how many strokes it had.

    • @menonalevi6984
      @menonalevi6984 Před rokem +1

      But also, not all traditional characters make sense. Yeah, the character of listen in traditional (聽)has an ear, that make sense, but it does not make sense that it has a heart in it, it also has the Jade radical which is senseless. But yeah, I don't like the simplified version of listen (听), probably a better simplification would be someting like this (耳丁) I think :P
      But simplified chinese was necessary to boost literacy faster, traditional characters takes more time to learn and it's more slower to write, so I prefer simplified.
      For example, it is unnecessary to make this character (廳) it is too complicated when it's radical its just phonetic, while in simplified its just this (厅), which is more easy to learn and write for children.
      Another example would be cat in traditional (貓) it has the radical of badger, but in simplified (猫) it has the radical of dog, so in this case both are kinda senseless. Love in traditional has the radical for go (攵), but in simplified it has the radical of friendship (友) so I think simplified has more sense in this case.
      I don''t understand why the tradicional version of this character has a short tail bird (歡). This traditional character for ''point'' has black in it (點), that radical is unnecessary, so this simplified character is better (点), the traditional character for advanced or enter has the radical of short tail bird (進), in simplified is just this (进) which in this case is a phonetic radical.
      voice in traditional (聲) has the radical of attack, but in simplified (声) they just get rid of this because it does not make sense anyway, the traditional character for country (國) has has the radical of ''maybe'', but in simplified it has a king (国), I know it can also mean Jade, but in this case means king. There is a lot of traditional character which has a lot of radicals that doesn't make sense anyways, so it was better to just get rid of useless radicals or changing its radicals for phonetics one or also changing its meaning.
      The vast majority of simplified characters preserve its meaning, it's just which some radicals has been simplified. 爱 has its heart, but heart has been simplified into one stroke, 讠,门,页,见,贝,东,车,专 are just the simplified version of 言,門,頁,見,貝東,車,專.

    • @gabrielgracenathanana1713
      @gabrielgracenathanana1713 Před 29 dny

      Just remember, before GMD went to Taiwan, President Kiang he himself was also planning to do the simplified. It was 10:1 in favor of simplified. So, the fact that “traditional” got into the policy is mostly political motivated. Let’s put this aside. It is meaningless now to keep arguing it - what are you trying to argue, Taiwan is better than China? We all know language is nuts. We all know that American English is not necessarily better than British English, but American English is used more in the world. In the same sense, no need to argue anymore, China “won”! Of course, we should be able to read both. No argument there.

  • @bijoydasudiya
    @bijoydasudiya Před 4 lety

    Chinese is most fascinating with it's ideographic pictographic characters. It's very aesthetically inclined. I think Vietnamese should adopt Kangzi radicals.

    • @ratlinggull2223
      @ratlinggull2223 Před 4 lety +2

      Back then most Vietnamese villages only had about one Chinese-literate guy who could read out loud letters and book, for the whole village. The adoption of the Latin alphabet was French propaganda, but at least it improved literacy rate.

  • @julbombning4204
    @julbombning4204 Před 3 lety

    I think I just spotted Stephen Krashen at 28:40

  • @ahjit7283
    @ahjit7283 Před 11 měsíci

    I learned Chinese character different from old method.i learned 50 pattern,from there extend to 600 character. Just recognize them, using voice input method change to characters. Eg. For recognize the Chinese character 常常要练习写字。加一些笔画变成新字。
    人( )人( )人( )人( )人( )人( )人( )
    答案在下面。
    天 大 头....买卖 灾火🔥火灭灾火土 太犬 头.
    From/ and \,move apart became 八入 then bend became 儿, add draw a line to form 又叉 又
    write using Chinese 凵, u and draw 山 出 凹( 凵 u) 巾帼 离常 巨 叵 匠 臣 .using handphone software, as long write 70% similar word will appear

  • @clonkex
    @clonkex Před rokem

    "prick stimulate" ahaha

  • @sednalkram
    @sednalkram Před 6 lety +1

    After your learn your basic 3000-5000 modern/abbreviated characters then you can learn to write them a) cursive style (such as seen typically on Chinese paintings --the poems and signatures e.g.) and/or traditional style (still used in Taiwan). You're never quite done.

  • @sednalkram
    @sednalkram Před 6 lety +1

    Classical Chinese was very efficient and beautiful and had simple grammar. Classical Chinese lasted until 1911. NO not logographic; that is kindergarten explanation -- explained as false 80 years ago in the scholarly arguments.

    • @dalitwhocanspeakenglish7464
      @dalitwhocanspeakenglish7464 Před 4 lety

      白话文很早就有了,可参考窦娥冤,that's not classical Chinese

    • @brighthorse6981
      @brighthorse6981 Před 4 lety

      Classical Chinese is “文言”,that‘s means “text language”,corresponds to "语言(speaking language)", Due to the large number of dialects and other Korean Japanese Vietnamese....., meaning cannot be conveyed if speaking and writing are unified,so we can't how to speak and how to write, it must use a uniform grammatical rules to write.After 1911,Modern Chinese has been defined, speaking and writing are unified,this is Mandarin now

    • @gabrielgracenathanana1713
      @gabrielgracenathanana1713 Před 29 dny

      Wonderful insight. In Classical Chinese, mostly a word only has one character. Its grammar is also simpler. So, Classical Chinese is much easier to learn as the first step to learn Chinese. Further, by picking less characters, we can easily develop a world language based on Classical Chinese!

  • @TheDavidlloydjones
    @TheDavidlloydjones Před 6 lety +17

    It's perfectly obvious: this is the binary age, so we should all switch to Morse. Just dots and dashes. Waaa-ay more efficient than 26 letters.

    • @My-nl6sg
      @My-nl6sg Před 5 lety +4

      now imagine writing in Morse the English word "pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis" as if it wasn't long enough already XD

  • @user-vx2yq6ly1u
    @user-vx2yq6ly1u Před 6 lety

    OK OK OK OK

  • @francischan1945
    @francischan1945 Před 5 lety +5

    🏓 😎 🏓 As you can see English is a liner alphabetical slow language but Chinese is a 3-D language with sound+form+meaning all 3-in-1 one note character fast language. Unlike English, we can pronounce words in different dialects without changing meaning of words regardless where you go. That is an ancient Chinese secret to keep all 56 different ethnic group’s people living together in peace❗️and worshiping lovely family values ❤️ & soil (food) 🍏. Isn’t that’s why Chinese food are so popular and great❓Don’t you wish people around the world eat and live like our Chinese instead of killing each other with their selfish belief in God(s) and incompatible languages❗️I am pretty sure Confucius from more than 2,500 years ago will be very happy to see a harmonious global society in our future 5G era without language barriers at all❗️ Hallelujah ‼️

  • @creative-name5279
    @creative-name5279 Před 6 lety +2

    I am still locked in a fierce internal debate on whether Chinese or english is more efficient. Chinese uses less space, but requires more strokes and needs a larger font size to be readable. English uses more space per word, but like Miss Li said in the video, it gives 100% coverage once you know the building blocks. I’d also argue that learning new words is not the same as learning new characters because when one hears a new word, they can write out the sounds they hear in english. This can only be done phonetically with preexisting Chinese characters and it’s neither a 100% recreation of the original pronunciation nor does it carry any meaning until the learner learns the actual character for the word. English requires less memorization since there are more building blocks and there is less of an emphasis on holism like Chinese has. I’d like to believe that in a natural disaster where forms of communication are limited, that an alphabetical language like english or Spanish would be the method of choice since it is easy to teach children and if only typewriters are accessible, then messages can still be relayed with relative ease. I’m a native english speaker myself, so maybe my bias is showing, but I would like to know how Chinese people felt about learning english. Was it a huge weight lifted off your shoulders that the Chinese writing system has imposed upon you?

    • @moonresidentno.921
      @moonresidentno.921 Před 5 lety +1

      You are right at some point, but language is not only for working as a tool like English. It is culture. It is fun. It is art. It is history. It is how you understand the universe like the Chinese radicals. It is connections of each other. BTW, Chinese can read documents 2000 years ago, but who can read original Shakespeare ?

    • @gabrielgracenathanana1713
      @gabrielgracenathanana1713 Před 29 dny

      3500 characters, most educated people know. Then, they know ALL words. You still have not felt the power yet, otherwise you would not have any debate! No real new words! All words are combined by characters, in a way easily guessed. Only 2 characters!!

  • @oldsachem
    @oldsachem Před 3 lety

    When three walk together, my wife gets jealous.

  • @aqynbc
    @aqynbc Před 6 lety +2

    She has a beautiful Chinese pronunciation (not all Chinese do).

  • @AN-nl9pu
    @AN-nl9pu Před rokem +1

    China couldn't enter the computer age without adopting Western keyboards.
    The real test to find out whether English or Mandarin is more efficient is simple. Take 100 English typists and 100 Chinese typists (say medical transcriptionists), and use a type racer type program to test their average speed. I guarantee you the English typists would win.

    • @gabrielgracenathanana1713
      @gabrielgracenathanana1713 Před 29 dny

      Then what? Are you trying to say Chinese speaking people cannot use computer?😂. Soon it will be mostly voice input, want to have a match? I guarantee you Chinese will win - Chinese have much shorter sentences, typically. But it is meaningless. The real burden is the vocabulary. In that regard, Chinese language is better. It too full advantage of the power of combinations.

  • @WCiossek
    @WCiossek Před 6 lety +1

    Zu viele Worte für ein paar wenige Dinge! Too many words for a few things!

  • @chengyanslc
    @chengyanslc Před 6 lety +2

    26 letters or at least 20000+ words(that are hard to memorize) to be literate in novels and newspapers?

    • @mayday7675
      @mayday7675 Před 4 lety

      The comment I was looking for. The comparison of 3500 vs 26 is slightly inaccurate, although the two language systems are probably hard to compare. I'm thinking 214 radicals vs 26 might be a better comparison.

    • @seafood_hater
      @seafood_hater Před 3 lety +2

      @@mayday7675 Comparing radicals with English letters is also inaccurate. As the lecturer has mentioned, it makes more sense to compare Chinese radicals with English morphemes, because letters themselves are meaningless while Chinese radicals are derivatives of meaningful characters, which is similar to English morphemes as demonstrated in the lecture. When making comparisons, it's more important to consider the underlying value than the appearance.

  • @sednalkram
    @sednalkram Před 6 lety +2

    The Second Edition of the 20-volume Oxford English Dictionary contains full entries for 171,476 words in current use, and 47,156 obsolete words. To this may be added around 9,500 derivative words included as subentries.

  • @ManOleg38
    @ManOleg38 Před 8 měsíci

    She (those chinese woman) lied to you. The've use the phinyin sounds, which limited by 56.

  • @CyrillCassin
    @CyrillCassin Před 6 lety +1

    The actual characters cannot be seen through the entire lecture. What's the point?

  • @Caedus46
    @Caedus46 Před 6 lety

    holy fuck.

  • @user-pr7ms2jh4f
    @user-pr7ms2jh4f Před 6 lety

    三人行必有我師,行是什麼意思,三人是什麼意思,包括我嗎

    • @user-rh2pv2kc5g
      @user-rh2pv2kc5g Před 6 lety

      魏南 多人

    • @bianxi4yt
      @bianxi4yt Před 6 lety +1

      行为走,同路,一起。三人为众。

    • @ml8727
      @ml8727 Před 6 lety +1

      魏南 当然,最有效率的老师是自我意识

    • @brighthorse6981
      @brighthorse6981 Před 4 lety

      这个老师很多地方都解释不清,比如“安”她解释为peace,然后台下有人说一个女人在房子里怎么是peace?其实她可以说安有另一个意思“安全”,一个女人在房间里自然会觉得安全嘛,还有很多类似的问题,她动不动就是I don't know,感觉这个老师并不是学汉语出身的

  • @luisporrasrojas2147
    @luisporrasrojas2147 Před 10 měsíci

    I'am not see 😢

  • @oldsachem
    @oldsachem Před 3 lety

    How many Mandarin borrow words in English and when can we capture more? Why don't we just steal them?

    • @gabrielgracenathanana1713
      @gabrielgracenathanana1713 Před 29 dny

      It is easy, just use the same methodology: just find all short Latin and Greek roots/suffixes. Being short is important, preferably only one syllable! So, we should mix Latin and Greek, and root and suffixes - ie, we do not differentiate them, just focus on their meaning. Then, combine them, strictly combine two into one, into words. The result will be a new unlimited vocabulary!

  • @georgeherzog5929
    @georgeherzog5929 Před 11 měsíci

    Confuses literacy with conversational ability.
    Pedantically distracts and burdens the new learner with excessive details.

  • @BigSirZebras
    @BigSirZebras Před 6 lety +2

    For a group at a university they sure ask a lot of stupid questions.

    • @Moskoe
      @Moskoe Před rokem

      I agree, plus trying to show off their knowledge, unsolicited. Just listen, you don’t always need to talk 🧘🏼‍♂️

  • @WS-yo7iy
    @WS-yo7iy Před rokem

    There are more to learn about Chinese language.

  • @mangguodaren7366
    @mangguodaren7366 Před 6 lety

    I never learned my mother language so systematically.

    • @WCiossek
      @WCiossek Před 6 lety

      你 不 系 统 学 习 母 语, 可 是 你 一 定 系 统 学 习 外 国 语 ! 我 必 须 学 习 了 汉 语, 因 为 我 不 中 国 人!

  • @natalieso5010
    @natalieso5010 Před 4 lety +1

    difficult writing system obstructs regular civilians from learning lots of things.

  • @mangguodaren7366
    @mangguodaren7366 Před 6 lety +2

    There are too many words pronounce the same, you have to write it in Chinese characters.

  • @juyngkwogayo206
    @juyngkwogayo206 Před 3 lety +1

    You don’t understand newspaper by learning 26 letters. You need to learn thousand of English words to understand a newspaper. That’s the same as learning 3500 characters to understand newspaper. Coverage is not the way to compare level of comprehension.

  • @stephenyiu4979
    @stephenyiu4979 Před 5 lety

    “我爱天安门“?
    No wonder!!!
    哈哈。。。。。
    (路过)

    • @stephenyiu4979
      @stephenyiu4979 Před 4 lety

      @@randomthings7578 As if I didn't know. But the emphasis is on the "No Wonder",i.e. "難怪"、"怪不得"、、、 ("just"?)
      Thanks nevertheless 哈?
      And 希望这沒有影响你學中文。
      呵呵、、、、、、

  • @clonkex
    @clonkex Před rokem +1

    Ugh that old American woman trying to naively take the concepts way too far lol

  • @soryang8523
    @soryang8523 Před 4 lety

    too bad many of the characters are illegible.

  • @SmiteTVnet
    @SmiteTVnet Před rokem

    Chinese is more intuitive but european languages are much more intentional, allowing for quicker assimilation of other cultures.
    I feel like Chinese works how latin and probably indo-european used to work. The thing with modern european languages is that they are born out of tribalism and war and absolute barbarianism so you get all kinds of weird words that get added to the roots of older languages that then get changed just for the heck of it sometimes because why not, your nation isn't lasting only your blood.

  • @francischan1945
    @francischan1945 Před 4 lety +3

    🏓 😎🏓 We hope some day soon everybody will be able to speak Chinese to each other ! Correct me if you are wrong ? Because Chinese is truly the only written 3-D 【sound+form+meaning all 3-in-1】single note character language in this world, it’s not just using voice alone (pronunciation letters) as many other natives without written languages to communicate with each other that simple. Every Chinese character can be pronounced by over 56 different dialects in China without changing it’s meaning what so ever ‼️ ➡️ Imagining we all speak and write English in USA, FBI, SUV, DIY, AI, SOB, BS, KGB, CIA, ABC? BBC? CBC, CBS, NBA, NBC, IBM, UFO, OK, IOU, A+, KMA, DOM !, LOL . . . . . forms, that is exactly what single note Chinese characters have done for the last 5,000 years❗️ Instead of only 26 letters plus a few Greek & Latin etc. symbols which makes useless words at best as above, we have over 3,500 creative single note characters plus their familiar parts at our disposal that’s all 🆒. Now you can really appreciate the high speed at which all Chinese people were able to communicate with each other ! Just like that 5G super high speed system in the future. Therefore the future will belong to China 🇨🇳 sooner than you think ! ! ! ☎️ So Sorry ! 📞 This is a recording.
    Chinese is a (精簡=Very sharply condensed and easy) clever language indeed ‼️👍👀 ✅‼️
    【 Every Chinese one note character = Every English word in one letter abbreviation form 】👀‼️
    Ex.【IOU =我欠你。UOM=你欠我。OMG =老天啊。LOL =太好笑。DIY =自己做。SUV=運用車。BS =吹牛/胡說。OK =好的。OK?=好嗎。BBC=大黑屌。SOB=他媽的。AH=混蛋。SOS=救命啊】🆒
    Ex.《Five=五, Fifty=五十, Five hundreds =五百, Five thousands =五千, Fifty thousands =五萬》
    EX. 1️⃣ God help those who help themselves =自助天助。
    2️⃣ If you can’t beat them join them =敗則投奔。
    3️⃣ Easy come, Easy go. =易得易失。
    4️⃣ No money, No talk. =沒錢免談。
    5️⃣ (To be) or (Not to be) =(成) 或 (不成)。
    ie. as if Chinese have 3500+ letters instead of only 26 different letters in English, so to speak.👀‼️
    《 U.S.A. = United States of America = 阿媽綠卡 共合國 = 美國 🇺🇸 = 米國 🇺🇸 = U ! S ! A ! 》
    《 汉字五千年 = Five Thousand Years of Chinese Characters = 5TYoCC❓❌ NO WAY=不行 》
    《 1838年一月十一日Samuel Morse🈴️Alfred Vail 用Morse電碼通訊後差點消滅中文》
    《 Computer 不但使中文起死回生, 還把中文變成第四次工業革命 A.I.等領域的工具了》
    🆒 The attractive power of Chinese Characters = 汉字的魅力。czcams.com/video/VP-CIZOA02c/video.html
    🆒❤️ The amazements of Chinese Characters = 妙品汉字。czcams.com/video/idLmNFqnDjE/video.html
    😎 How The Chinese Language Makes Mathematics Easier To Understand = 何以中文易懂數學 ? czcams.com/video/n7jHT7Tumcw/video.html
    🇺🇸➡️🇨🇳🈶️☮️ Becoming Chinese: Andrew Field at TED。。。。czcams.com/video/T1SvXimwsVs/video.html
    ➡️ If I can learn【中文 = Chinese Language】I am sure anybody with normal IQ level can learn too❗️Actually I had a hard time learning English language by memorizing so many unrelated illogical vocabulary and inflexible grammar ! That’s why I took B. Math. C&O instead, because it has only 10 digits or 2 digits for computer science and they are much less than English’s 26 that many letters ‼️ Then I discovered that English are also hard on the computer storage spaces, because English words are 5 letters long on the average plus a space between two uneven length of words. On the other hand, Chinese characters can all be represented by 3 letters each with no space needed in between them therefore they are 50% shorter than each English word on the average.‼️ As a matter of fact, the thinnest copy of U.N. Charter is printed in Chinese. Less paper also means less pollution on earth !
    【One World with One Language】= ☮️ on 🌏 ➡️ 🏓 😎 🏓 💯👍 ❤️ ✅ 。。How language transformed humanity。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。czcams.com/video/ImQrUjlyHUg/video.html
    Subject: Provost Lecture: Mark Pagel - The Evolution of Human Languages。。。。。。。。。。
    czcams.com/video/HoopujAUwjM/video.html

    • @lookingfortruth1930
      @lookingfortruth1930 Před 4 lety +1

      Francis Chan Some English words do have meaning within them. For example. Science of Sci means to know

    • @francischan1945
      @francischan1945 Před 4 lety +1

      Thank you. Darkness Of Hatred

  • @spiderjump
    @spiderjump Před 7 lety +1

    lol.
    it takes a lot more than 3500 characters to read a chinese classic novel .

    • @sednalkram
      @sednalkram Před 6 lety

      True but generally people consider 3000-3500 what it takes to read a modern Chinese newspaper...

    • @spiderjump
      @spiderjump Před 6 lety

      Mark Landes 汉字不灭,中国必亡。

    • @bianxi4yt
      @bianxi4yt Před 6 lety

      听说莎士比亚的著作也不好读

    • @ml8727
      @ml8727 Před 6 lety +1

      Xi Bian 不是不好读,是字典无效

    • @WCiossek
      @WCiossek Před 6 lety

      You need about 7000 of 32000 characters!

  • @francischan1945
    @francischan1945 Před 5 lety +5

    🏓 😎 🏓 😎 🏓 As far as we know, English is the only language able to use noun as an adjective except the Chinese of course, and it’s the most advanced alphabetical language in this world, but do you know the first Chinese author ever to win a prestige Nobel prize in literature wasn’t even the best author by Chinese standards ? He won the Nobel prize just by using the most ordinary (ie. simple and easy) Chinese words to tell the most extraordinary Chinese stories in all his books. It’s because any English literature can be translated into Chinese characters but not the other way around. Believe it or not, some English literatures can be translated into several different Chinese versions, because there are so many ways to express the same words or phrases in Chinese language. But when an idea is written within another idea in a single sentence there are no other languages able to translate these Chinese sentences at all ! For example, how do you combine voice of one English sentence into the voice of another English sentence and write down as one single sentence in English ? Will this new 2-in-1 sentence pronouncing like a musical voice or noise ? Therefore alphabetical languages are subsets of the Chines 3-D sound-form-meaning all 3-in-1 character language and Chinese is the only truly written language in the world. It’s not using voice (pronunciation letters) alone to communicate with each other. Every character in Chinese can be pronounced by different dialects in China without change it’s meaning what so ever ! May be Chinese are hard to learn initially but it will getting easier as you learned more and more creative characters. Because we can use 3,500 more or less creative characters and their parts to make millions of related and easy to memorize words. English language on the other hand are very easy to write or pronounce at first but getting harder and harder to learn or memorizing and comprehend many unfamiliar, unrelated and illogical new words, and eventually end up with over one million vocabulary and growing by ten thousand or more new words each year ! How can anyone memorize all these new words quickly let alone 30,000 essential words you need to know in the first place ! Besides being hard to create easy and clever new words, English are also hard on the computer storage spaces, because English words are 5 letters long on the average plus a space between two uneven length of words. On the other hand, Chinese characters can all be represented by 3 letters each with no space needed in between them therefore they are 50% shorter than each English word on the average. Although Chinese words consist of many compound characters, none the less for the same article Chinese still using 20% less memory spaces and 200% less printing paper for that matter than the English ! In fact, the thinnest copy of U.N. Charter is printed in Chinese. Less paper means less pollution on earth ! I sincerely hope the most efficient Chinese language can be the universal language for all good (neither wrong nor right) people and bad (both wrong and right) people regardless who they are. But we better keep English for our computer programs, that way we will have the best of both worlds ! Don’t you think USA 🇺🇸 and CHINA 🇨🇳 should joint together to make life better and faster like the fastest G5 system from China for everybody in this world, Instead of killing each other to see who will be the only boss of the world on the moon ! ?

  • @francischan3109
    @francischan3109 Před 2 lety +2

    🏓 😎 🏓 😎 🏓 As far as we know, 1️⃣ English is the only language able to use noun as an adjective except the Chinese of course, and it’s the most advanced alphabetical language in this world, 2️⃣ but do you know the first Chinese author ever to win a prestige Nobel prize in literature wasn’t even the best author by Chinese standards ? He won the Nobel prize just by using the most ordinary (ie. simple and easy) Chinese words to tell the most extraordinary Chinese stories in all his books. It’s because any English literature can be translated into Chinese characters but not the other way around. 3️⃣ Believe it or not, some English literatures can be translated into several different Chinese versions, because there are so many ways to express the same words or phrases in Chinese language. 4️⃣ But when an idea is written within another idea in a single sentence there are no other languages able to translate these Chinese sentences at all ! For example, how do you combine voice of one English sentence into the voice of another English sentence and write down as one single sentence in English ? Will this new 2-in-1 sentence pronouncing like a musical voice or noise ? 5️⃣ Therefore alphabetical languages are subsets of the Chines 3-D sound-form-meaning all 3-in-1 character language and Chinese is the only truly written language in the world. It’s not using voice (pronunciation letters) alone to communicate with each other. Every character in Chinese can be pronounced by different dialects in China without change it’s meaning what so ever ! 6️⃣ May be Chinese are hard to learn initially but it will getting easier as you learned more and more creative characters. Because we can use 3,500 more or less creative characters and their parts to make millions of related and easy to memorize words. English language on the other hand are very easy to write or pronounce at first but getting harder and harder to learn or memorizing and comprehend many unfamiliar, unrelated and illogical new words, and eventually end up with over one million vocabulary and growing by ten thousand or more new words each year ! How can anyone memorize all these new words quickly let alone 30,000 essential words you need to know in the first place ! 7️⃣ Besides being hard to create easy and clever new words, English are also hard on the computer storage spaces, because English words are 5 letters long on the average plus a space between two uneven length of words. On the other hand, Chinese characters can all be represented by 3 letters each with no space needed in between them therefore they are 50% shorter than each English word on the average. Although Chinese words consist of many compound characters, none the less for the same article Chinese still using 20% less memory spaces and 200% less printing paper for that matter than the English ! In fact, the thinnest copy of U.N. Charter is printed in Chinese. Less paper means less pollution on earth !
    8️⃣ Since every Chinese character has only one note which takes 1/4 second to say it and we have over 1,200 different notes in common use but our poor English friends only have 400 different notes to use, therefore to express the 401st. object it takes two notes or 1/2 second to say it. In general, it will take English 60 seconds 🐌 to convey an idea vs. Chinese people only take less than 10 seconds 🚗 ! In other words our Chinese Language is a High Speed Learning Tool ‼️

    • @ConsciousRapper
      @ConsciousRapper Před 2 lety

      "and it’s the most advanced alphabetical language in this world"
      Uhm, this statement doesn't work at all, especially from a linguistic perspective. I see no way in judging one language most advanced than another.

  • @ShuoYangWang
    @ShuoYangWang Před 6 lety +4

    I think learning English is easier than learning Chinese is actually a myth. Learning English is not just memorizing 26 characters, you should memorize words as well. However, after memorizing 3500 Chinese characters, which each character has its own meaning, you can at least understand a whole article easily.

    • @Hamsters831
      @Hamsters831 Před 6 lety +2

      Shuo-Yang Wang you need to memorize the combinations as well. Most of the full terms is a combinations of 2 or more characters

    • @DenizenofSBWR
      @DenizenofSBWR Před 6 lety +4

      English words are much easier to learn becos you can deduce the spelling from the pronunciation. Granted it is not perfectly phonetic. Still it is much easier than Chinese characters when the pronunciation has nothing to do with the writing and there are so many characters with the same pronunciation. English grammar is quite complex and confusing though.

    • @brighthorse6981
      @brighthorse6981 Před 4 lety

      @@DenizenofSBWR you can quickly know how to pronounce and how to spell a new word, but it does not mean that you know its meaning, but in Chinese, people can immediately understand its meaning, and the brain can even skip the pronunciation.

    • @DenizenofSBWR
      @DenizenofSBWR Před 4 lety +1

      bright horse from the context , you can infer the meaning most times. English has complicated grammar but learning how to spell English words is much easier than Chinese characters.

    • @DenizenofSBWR
      @DenizenofSBWR Před 4 lety +1

      bright horse how can you possibly Guess the meaning of 骄傲 without the context? For example 陈大明为人骄傲。 from this one sentence how could any one know what Is the meaning or the pronunciation of 骄傲?

  • @francischan1945
    @francischan1945 Před 5 lety +3

    🏓 😎 🏓 Since every Chinese character has only one note which takes 1/4 second to say it and we have over 1,200 different notes in common use but our poor English friends only have 400 different notes to use, therefore to express the 401st. object it takes two notes or 1/2 second to say it. In general, it will take English 60 seconds 🐌 to convey an idea vs. Chinese people only take less than 10 seconds 🚗 ! In other words our Chinese Language is a High Speed Learning Tool ! or you may say that Chinese had 5G more than 5K years ago ! Now you know why and how China can catch up with western country’s 400 years accomplishments in just 40 years ! He ha ha . . . . . !

    • @someguy9221
      @someguy9221 Před 4 lety

      lol

    • @someguy9221
      @someguy9221 Před 4 lety

      lol..... one of the hardest language in the world boy...

    • @francischan1945
      @francischan1945 Před 4 lety +3

      some guy 。。。Yes, you are right for the first few years in your life. Once you go over the hill it will be the easiest and most advanced language for the rest of your life. Just like being a medical doctor, it is not easy to get in, but the reward is unlimited.

  • @TennisGvy
    @TennisGvy Před 4 lety

    lol cya CI, your propaganda isn't welcome here :)

  • @TalaySeedam
    @TalaySeedam Před rokem

    The Central Government of the Republic of China published a list of 4808 characters 中華民國常用國字標準字體表 as a standard for literacy, those so-called "3500" she talks about is just a shortlist with non-standard characters chosen by an illegal "communist administration" with an aim to limit peoples literacy, you still need to know 4808 full form characters to understand standard language.

  • @hansjurgenhubertstoffels8250

    Chinese is old fashioned and out of date. It should be reserved to art. See the Vietnamese. It may look nice, but it is good as and in art, not in common day life.

  • @vinster907311
    @vinster907311 Před 6 lety

    This lady have no clues. Chinese building blocks have 212-214 radicals equal to 26 western alphabet letters

    • @seafood_hater
      @seafood_hater Před 3 lety

      She explains in the video why Chinese radicals shouldn't be compared with English letters... Did you even watch the video? lol

    • @TheMexikanKaktus
      @TheMexikanKaktus Před 10 měsíci

      They are non-comparable. The radicals have meaning whereas the standalone letters haven't

  • @jail4BillandHilaryClinton

    Inefficient. Too much time needed to memorise Chinese characters.

    • @adamdada7750
      @adamdada7750 Před 6 lety +3

      yeah, English vacabulary is too much, see, i almost foget how to spell vocabulary

    • @paulgoogol2652
      @paulgoogol2652 Před 5 lety

      are you kidding 3-5 months...

    • @seafood_hater
      @seafood_hater Před 3 lety

      Lol... Bruh, please don't bring shame to Singapore... Have you learned nothing from the video?

    • @TheMexikanKaktus
      @TheMexikanKaktus Před 10 měsíci

      Language learning takes time. Just think of all the time you spent learning English in school

  • @SunshineHnubCi
    @SunshineHnubCi Před 6 lety +2

    She should have done a better job explaining her topic. It was so confusing what she was trying to talk about. She just rambled off... She should have gave a hint or window into opinions of English and Chinese...a possible answer that would keep people hooked. Her presentation is so boring and such a waste of time to be honest...

    • @TheMexikanKaktus
      @TheMexikanKaktus Před 10 měsíci

      It was a great lecture, but you have to be interested in linguistics in order to appreciate it

  • @tomxu1561
    @tomxu1561 Před 7 lety +3

    字 is not charaters. If you don't learn Chinese for more than ten years, it's impossible for you to understand what is a "字".

  • @Tristar10h
    @Tristar10h Před 7 lety +2

    Dumb, dumb and more dumb comparison.
    Chinese language have its own "alphabets" such as radicals of tree or water.
    Chinese is a 2-dimensional language arranged in a rectangle/square while Latin is a 1-dimension language arranged in a line.
    Don't ever believe if other tells you Chinese language is not language based on sound/pronunciation. I can guest with high degree of accuracy even if I never learned that Chinese character before.
    Inglish language is not 100% represented by sound either since the Inglish dictionary needs a separate section to accurately teaches the user on how to pronounce that word.

  • @Yan-12
    @Yan-12 Před 3 lety +2

    yes, chinese is a very old and inefficient writing system. A huge % of their population wear thick glasses because it takes forever to learn how to write and read something simple that would be in the west

    • @juyngkwogayo206
      @juyngkwogayo206 Před 3 lety +1

      It’s efficient because it carries meaning and everyone who speaks different dialects can still understand in writing.
      Each character is a word. You need to learn thousands of characters in Chinese as well as English to understand a newspaper. Simply knowing 26 letters will not help you understand English newspapers.

    • @inuken9561
      @inuken9561 Před 2 lety

      bruh ppl wear thick glasses because of maths

    • @TheMexikanKaktus
      @TheMexikanKaktus Před 10 měsíci

      This is just ignorant and ethnocentric

  • @JanPBtest
    @JanPBtest Před rokem

    This is the wrong comparison. Letters in English are not used in reading, it's the whole words that we have memorised, thousands of them. It's easy to prove with the well-known little trick showing a piece of English text with letters substituted by other letters or digits or some other gobbledygook and the text remains perfectly readable.

  • @francischan1945
    @francischan1945 Před rokem +2

    🏓😎🏓 Do you know how the Chinese word “contradiction” was created ? The story behind the creation of the word “contradiction” in Chinese two notes compound word “矛盾” or “spear-shield” in English language is very interesting ! The story went something like this ~ one day a customer passed through a hunting store and saw the owner of the store selling his spear 🗡️ by saying his spears are so powerful that it will penetrate any shield 🛡️ you might have ! Then the customer asked the owner how good is the shield 🛡️ he was selling ? The owner said his shields🛡️ are so powerful that no spear can penetrate them ! Then the customer asked the store’s owner what if by using his spear against his own shield 🛡️? This store owner was speechless ! Hence the word “contradiction “ or “矛盾” was created !

    • @francischan1945
      @francischan1945 Před rokem +1

      ❤ ie. Chinese can using existing vocabulary to create new vocabulary very efficiently ‼️

  • @francischan3109
    @francischan3109 Před rokem +2

    🏓😎🏓 As you know “ all mathematics “ are the universal language for science ‼️ because being an abstract language it’s independent of the written language of different countries ❗️Therefore being an abstract language like Chinese it’s not dependent on the pronunciation of it’s words 《 They can be pronounced in 56 different ways without changing their meanings at all in China. 》So I am sorry to say that Chinese language should be the universal language for the whole world by any right⁉️

    • @francischan3109
      @francischan3109 Před rokem +1

      🏓😎🏓 "3500 Characters vs. 26 Letters: Efficient or Inefficient?" by Kening Li
      【 czcams.com/video/0LvhjgW9zh0/video.html 】