Morgan and Atherton REACT to England's T20 World Cup defeat to India 👀
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Following England's defeat to India at the T20 World Cup, Eoin Morgan and Michael Atherton react to their defeat and look ahead to what's next.
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Basically they are saying we are world champions on flat decks only
Shameless Firangs will never change.
Why India can't be even with that many resources???
@@Manushyan_123 why are you defending england?
@@Manushyan_123India is. India hammered them in England and in India too in the t20. Go and check records. Will continue hammering unskilled bunchs of trash.
@@Manushyan_123at least we have more ICC trophies than England and also achieved no.1 ranking all formats simultaneously, what has england achieved???
India would have beat this England team in 9/10 in current form on any pitch in the world.
Mate, even if conditions suited India, you won the toss?
Still clowny Buttler bowled first on a pitch that was expected to be more slow and low with a great deal of variable bounce didn't even bring moeen on that track when livi and Adil went for 49 in 8 ovrs 😂atleast moeen would have tied down India miserably India shouldn't have reached 170 then
@@arijitchakraborty8469 exactly
@@arijitchakraborty8469not giving a bowl to moen was terrible.
Moen is better than Livingston in spin .
A dubey factor probably scared butler a bit.
Buttler must quit as skipper as he is NO Stokes NO Vaughan NO Waugh. Jos is a great Bat/WK all rounder & can be world's best player at that.
First sentence from Athers had to mention ‘conditions’. He doesn’t seem to like the 250+ scores of the IPL as well. Essentially seaming conditions is the only form of cricket that is truly ‘fair’. You had a left arm spinner on the bench that could have made a difference so could’ve Ben Duckett. Poor selection and totally outclassed imo.
EXACTLYYYYYY!!! they just keep crying about conditions always! Even in world cups!
The Indian World Cup conditions were belters! They performed horribly there as well
@@machi7885they were slow
England would still beat India on Adelaide pitch in a night game....so India is the one which needs correction with that many resources
@@Manushyan_123current india team was far strong and balance than england team so india win anytime even on Adelaide
If conditions are to be blamed then we Indians can say the same about WTC final both times being held in England where conditions and pitch favours SENA countries and Indian team were at disadvantage in both finals..
Very true
Oh then athers will say india weren't good enough in these conditions their technique is awful India lacked technique and patience anything to mortify India when eng loose on slow pitches oh pitches like these suit India can't even whole heartedly say india was best on that day Eng weren't at their best hypocritic confident scumbags this Englishmen manages to hang with a thread known as conditions 🤣🤣
These guys will never accept defeat....they will blame the conditions , pitch , rain any thing their players lack.
Pakistan 2.0 lol
@@keeya_ks Lets not forget how India reacted to world cup lose in their home ground.
@@RakibHasan-hs1mewe were more crying about the good decision of patt Cummins and brilliant batting of head and brilliant fielding of Aussies in world cup final .
England needed Australia to do them a favour just to get through the group, so blaming the pitch when you get battered by the world's best team is just silly. South Africa have been excellent this tournament - hopefully they make it more competitive in the final against India than England did in the semi with their sloppy bowling and reckless batting.
Some sensible comment. Couldnt agree more brother. Even when we play in New zealand where its just dozen of swing we dont complain. If you are the best u are the best. We even complained to BCCI why they gave england dusty pitches in 2021 test tour of England to India and this time in 2023 we saw the pitches were fair to everybody.
Hats off to u for commenting ur honest evaluation mate .. 👏
Yeah when you are the best lot you dominate in every conditions not kind of whinge like Michael chimed in icc favoures India by alloting a semifinal in guyana 😂 absolute jesters
Why mention the conditions? Gracefully accept that the better team won. Indian team just has the best, all condition XI.
They will not. It just their mentality
They still think they are our colonial masters😂😂😂😂...can't digest that we been pummelling them since 2022 t20 semis
Its human nature, Indian also cry about Ahmedabad pitch.
@@bhumikjoshi4573
They didn't.
@@bhumikjoshi4573Sorry, India never complains about the conditions. Cape Town test was dangerous and lasted only 5 sessions. India didn't utter a word but Rohit said... whenever anyone comes to India, just keep the mouth shut and play in whatever pitch was offered. These English cricketers always cry.
What is a favoring condition? They both played on the same pitch. Nowadays every team go and play in every country. India also, plays in England New Zealand Australia.
Just stop giving excuses and teach your boys how to play spin. India never complains About the seaming swinging conditions in England or New Zealand or any other countries because they know how to adapt to the condition according to the situation, England does not so just stop giving excuses. Accept the fact and move on.
No one thinks anything because people don’t care. No one watched karikket in England which why stadiums were empty. It’s just karikket obsessed people from India, Pakistan and Bangladesh (basically 3rd world countries) commenting on the comments section
And that's why u r replying to the 3rd class country. Good job..👍👍
@@maganhimanshu3105 I lub karikket sirrrr da graet spart of karikket
@@TheGreatVivek7it’s the game they invented. Learn spellings honestly 😂 , English people die internally whenever they lose any CWC or Football tournament . So shutup😂. No one travels that far unless until it’s final match , the Indians who migrated to Us supported our team
Michael Atherton thinks that the pitch flavoured India.. Whenever India wins it's the pitch and not the team... hahaha
yeah. He would been blushing if India had a fast-paced pitch and still defeated England. Oh well. His excuse may have been something else.
Atherton, next time whenever world cup is played and wherever it is, we will place the Lord's pitch and then let's see what excuse will you make
I think they have forgotten the last time ind beat eng in wc, surely they think shami was bowling on a spinning pitch😂
That was his assessment and he is right in a sense, at Guyana India was 80% but if it was In Barbados it would have been 55-45
@@mohammadfaisal7143 if India could defeat pakistan and Australia on fast bowling pitches, then I don't know what England could have done, their fast bowlers are way out of form.
Atherton pal Nasser predicted the day before the India - England semi-final that it will be an England South Africa final. Both knew that they are playing in Guyana. It's always when they lose they find an scapegoat. Another such Englishman in Michael Vaughan on his twitter . He is gatting proper bashing. Why are all English commentators like this ? huh?
Mentality of British imperialism
I heard the podcast. They both said Eng vs SA but you could see back of their mind, they knew.....
English media competing with Pakistan media in degrading India's victory..
@@eradatmunshi26 if it's slow and low England are done and so are hypocritic confident jerky Englishmen will be buried 🤣
The English are saying india won only because they won on a ground they chose and they are yet to qualify for a WTC final when it is happening in england every time
England only plays well under certain conditions, and everyone knows it. I don't understand why Michael Atherton always defends them for this. If you're a good team, you need to win everywhere.
2 days ago, both Atherton and Nasser Hussain were extremely confident of England reaching the finals. Did they not know how the conditions are going to be just 24 hours before the game? Especially after there have already been many matches played at the same venue in the same tournament. Poor to find excuses in conditions when England didn’t even utilise the spinners they had in side ( Moeen Ali)
Actually England has become very poor bowling side lately
Archer isn't the Archer we had seen in 2019
Topley is a good powerplay Bowler
Jordan is a trash
Curran - IDK what 2 say , his role is just nothing
@@ce11amitkumaryadav83 He was trash in the IPL. Punjab kings my team paid so much for him in the auction 2024 and it went to waste
@@ce11amitkumaryadav83 no wonder CSK released him
Especially when they don't bowl mark wood
Archer is massively overrated. It will be good to move Ali & Jordan out of the team going forward. Rashid is still a class player.
Atherton still seeking solace in conditions. The english are just mediocre.
Where do you live?
He does it everytime 😂 idiosyncratic Brits
Atherton still living in 90s old Britain
If only we had a world class left handed number 3…
ECB treatment of Dawid Malan had been shocking
World Class might be over egging it slightly but he should definitely have played at 3.
@@macoooos9204 look at his t20 and ODI numbers. And he was #1 in the world recently
@@krisrichardson6690 So was babar azam, Dawid Malan is NOT Joe Root.
@@krisrichardson6690 plus he is also 36-37.
@@arjunmishra3537Haan Haan Shaant hoja BlHARl. People from England don’t take karikket that seriously
If it's all about conditions then why SA is in finals and not England ?
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DON'T ASK QUESTIONS WE DON'T HAVE ANSWERS FOR
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People dont realise that's how english response is to defeat . Over ages Indians have been brought up thinking oneself as defeated race thanks to our education which thought we were ruled by others for centuries. So when we loose we blame on ourselves or try to associate on us being loosers its psychological people might not agree to it.
Most if not all English come with a different upbringing and when they loose they try to reason and think oh may be this might be a most likely reason or else we have been winning for ages now and these feelings go strong when pitted against what they presume inferior.
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“Thought to ruled by others?”
You do know that “our education” also teaches about defiance against impossible odds.
Dont be like England. Stop blaming circumstances.
Wrong . Australia have been dominate not England
The team that won 50 over WC based on boundary counts would never deserve to win any future ICC trophies. How someone can win a trophy like WC based on boundary counts. ICC is ashamed of making such a bullshit rule. Even in IPL, They have another super over if it's tied in first super over so an event like WC also should have the same rule.
As an England fan they should have played another Super Over. The count back rule is abysmal. Plus Archer should never have bowled the Super Over, Liam Plunkett or Chris Woakes would have been better.
Very well said bro and it's a fact and the way they played in 2023 WC clearly showed that 2019 WC was indeed a fluke
@@sumbdi not a fluke it...just the result was not fair to NZ....they played good cricket throughout the tournament....
@@hirokjyoti7226 nope they lost against pakistan, srilanka and Australia in group stages and were dependent on other results to qualify for semis, if they had played good cricket in 2019 WC then it would have reflected in 2023 WC performance and we all know what happened in that world cup.
Champion and quality teams ll always have consistency in their performance in ICC tournaments but that's not the case with england.
@@sumbdi they thrashed aus in sf ..that matters you forgot...they played Aggressive cricket from 2015 and that made them successful.....so you cannot say they are not worthy....
World champions only in one type of condition , said confidently by captains .
Why are Indians so obsessed with karikket? Going around and commenting everywhere lol. This is not a video for you. No one takes karikket that seriously in England as it’s an inferior sport to football
The semi-final at Adelaide in 2022 had pitch conditions that were perfectly suited for the aggressive English T20 power hitters.
No one brought that up.
No one in the English media had an issue with conditions on that day.
2 years ago England deserved to win the semi-final.
Now India deserve to go through.
They have not used moein ali
in slow low wicket. Instead of sam curren will jacks should have playef
They considered eoin morgan the legend who comes from ireland and win the world cup in home conditions with boundaries margin,, that's level of England.
Hi Athar, please stop giving the usual English excuse, about the pitch favouring the opponents etc. Accept that your English team cannot play in pitches where world cups are played.
Oi karikket obsessed guy, commenting everywhere. People from England don’t care about karikket played by unfit men. Got it?
Atherton still living in 90s old Britain
@@user-ip5zf5xt2d they don’t care about karikket
I used to like nasser and Atherton speech, but now all they give is bullshit excuse and doesnt gracefully accept the defeat.
No they don't stop talking crap
They don’t know what’s grace.
The casual racism talking about conditions all the time v
Nasser still is good
Debate on pitches made me realize that how great indian bowling line up is ....Indian bowling dominated in all three types of pitches ...green tracks in USA , flat track with Australia, rest matches in slow tracks
Or maybe teams don’t field a good side in karikket because developed countries don’t care about karikket. Karikket is only popular in 3rd world countries like India, Pakistan and Bangladesh lol
Atherton is pretty much asking ICC to have Eng carry the pitch that suits them all around the world. What a crap suggestion
Why do they not talk about conditions when they talk about Adelaide 2022?
Michael Atheron started the proceedings with saying the conditiom better suited India 😂 the pain behind that line 😅😅
Atherton still living in 90s old Britain
The Ben Stokes factor always got England over the line.
He should lead them in wcups this buttler has no brain
😂😂 when they loose they blame pitch, when they win english better team😂😂,
Karikket is a great sport sirrrrr
India is the best team in any conditions, they play, as if you can remember India played Semi - final in 2019 WC. It is England's problem that they don't have quality spinners and seamers who could have stopped India before 171.
England have drain every wealth there is from india..but one thing they cant loot is the Talent that the indian cricketers possess.
they say slow and spin wickets as if it is not a part of cricket why don't they look to improve their own team so that they can be compatible on any pitch.
why there is this crying game everytime.
Why would they look to improve in karikket when they don’t even take the sport seriously lol
Morgan predicted India to win before the tournament started.
No one talked about indian batting athers and english experts are blaming conditions firstly as professional players you have skill to play all these conditions around the globe even india lost to 2022 wc semi we are not blamed conditions just outplayed why you're didn't accept your performance
Bizarre batting order changes also did not help their cause..Best batters should always play ahead.
Man. It's always the "conditions" isn't it? India were dominant period.
Did anyone mention adelaide’s conditions suit england??
It looks like these folks didn't learned their lesson even after getting thrashed by India in India last year 🤣🤣🤣
India beat australia also on a fast bouncing pitch , still no credit ?
I’m an England fan full stop but Jos butler either needs to give up the gloves or the captaincy but I don’t think he will because he is stubborn. Also the shirt and ties need to relive Mathew Mott and offer it to Morgan.
Ecstasy for India and absolute agony for England
Why English are saying that conditions suited India! Guys India beat ENGLAND!
These are some honest reflections from Morgs and Arthers. This set of English players have done well with the approach they had since 2015 but I believe time to review it and add more smartness to the batting approach may be.
The comments about pitch being spin friendly seems more like the frustration expressed as an English fan, I don't think it is something even the English team would have discussed or thought of. If the English team reflects on their performance they actually did not perform very well against all the better bowling attacks, that would be what I will take away as a team for improvement. These comments rather portray the English team as flat track bullies which I think they will never like.
Why don't Mike say that match Was Fixed... Jay Shah scripted
Jos Buttler fixed this match with Mathew Mott
Big diffrence is not adelade and jameca diffrence is bumrah and kuldeep is not playing in adelade they are playing in adelade result has been different.
For God's sake, Butler is a gift to England. Don't even think of changing him. He is a very humble man carrying all the weight of captaincy, keeping, and batsmenship.
now for your next challenge, try doing an analysis without using the term “conditions”
So these bunch of sour grapes forget that England won the toss and England sucks at using the spin conditions, but apparently "conditions" is what got India through. The mental gymnastics to put asterisk next to India's win is amazing.
South Africa on the other hand have improved against spin over the years, they don't complain. South Africa deserve to cross the line in near future.
India has already proved that in spite of not winning ICC events ...India is still the best team across all formats by performing in South Africa, England , australia etc.
England won the semifinal in australia because they outperformed india and lost in Guyana due to low , slow pitch which suited India.
What a height of hypocrisy 👏👏👏
The condition means the spin favouring pitch was on Indias side.
These great pundits may ponder why Moin Ally was not fully used on a pitch favouring spin !!!
I do think a lot of Englands players need to retire or be dropped ( Moeen , Bairstow etc )
I think we need to bring in some fresh talent ; Salt , Jacks look promising , I’m sure we have plenty of others
Australia and England crying from past few days 😂 n m lovin it😂
England , South Africa and India were the top 3 best teams in this World Cup. England have done well , almost won against South Africa and could well be on the way to final by potentially beating Afghanistan in the semis
Kudos to England too .
When would they accept that their team need to learn how to bat against the turning ball rather then complaning about slow and low pitch.😂😂
England have played all their games in WI this WC and were more than accustomed to the conditions. Just admit you were not good enough and move on.
Petty excuses. Conditions didn't suit india either. While the indian top order was batting the ball was keeping tremendously low. How are these suitable conditions for any team?
We are not worried as we have best all-rounder of the world in our team... Dubey!?!
What is this conditions suitable to India narrative? What is your opinion when WTC final is played in England?
Icc please prepare a pitch especially for England... Let athers stop mourning
All ICC World Test Championship matches are being played in England and India is loosing them mostly because the conditions favouring SENA countries. Thats not a problem, but this is a problem for these guys.
England needs New Squad 😢 Remove Bairstow chirs jordan sam Curran and M ali
English cricket teams ego has been dusted - with ODI WC debacle, Bazball rested in tests in India, Ashes plumbing and now T20WC.
ODI WC was NZ cup handed to England
So in reality England has not won anything except 2022 but they think they are the team of the decades like WI and Australia
Well done India. But hope South Africa win their first global tournament. The two best teams in the tournament by a mile, and both teams seem to have all bases covered bowling and batting wise.
I don’t hear an excuse based tone. It’s just disappointment and stating where teams tend to play better. They praised India and their roster multiple times in this video.
Let's face it, they were embarrassing.
England batting side is weak without Buttler. England needed Malan and Duckett inplace of Bairstow and Brook. Blame your team selectors, not the pitch.
I would not put the blame on Eng & Aus. If the whole tournament would have held in Carribean it would be a totally different outcome. Lots of match would not be so close. Not to mention how Sri Lanka had to travel so badly every where.
Finally its over and we can start our English summer. Bring on the first test.
they not criticising their own time 😂
Indians are the world champs!!!!!!!! 😄😄😄😄😄😄😃😃😃😃😀😀😀😀😀😀☺☺☺
Atherton had predicted India would loose.
RR shuru ho gya inka.
Unless its Lords or Oval, the conditions and pitch is never fair.
Cheap.
When english won in England did they say the condition favoured us that's why we won
Ian Ward - why?
If you complain about pitch conditions just quit playing cricket as a nation and focus on some other sport
England’s batting line up was poor and let them down. After Jos Butler and Phil Salt, Harry Brook…not many runs
And I always think that bbc is always biased views.. so just came to hear you guys . Zane like always they did not disappoint me 😅😂.. carry on
How come when India loses on a flat deck it's a solid England performance but when England loses it's the conditions. Same old lazy analysis by English pundits, never giving credit to the opposition. When these same pundits predicted an England victory a day before the game?
Eng white ball dominance which started from WT2016 comes to end in WT20 2024. Brooks should be made white ball captain.
Atherton don't blame the conditions. Your team does not have the skills to adapt to conditions. India thumped Australia on a bouncier track in the semi. Clearly a much better team.
Those who are saying don't mention the conditions,pls go & get some brain
T20 is not a day game,& not for this type of pitches
When india lost in Adelaide,the pitch little sticky batting first and then came on nicely batting second under lights,no one from india cried like few English pandits are crying over our win in gayana,you ppl won the toss and still you lost,you ppl lost 3 of the 4 games against major teams,
Why would they cry though. No one watches karikket in England which why stadiums were empty. It’s just karikket obsessed people from India, Pakistan and Bangladesh commenting on the comments section
England may have reached the semi but in all honesty the tournament was a dismal failure. They need to accept that before they can improve.
Bin Mott, bring Trott or Morgan in
Why england didn't brought their own pitches from home like india.
There will be a day when India will beat England even on flat decks, these English commentators will be left with no reasons in future, I guarantee that to you. The two trophies that England has won haven't been smooth, just look at 2019 world cup, England was on the verge of elimination after they lost to srilanka. A champion team never complains about pitch and conditions, they should learn this from Australia
Conditions conditions conditions!!
If English players can play only in certain conditions on certain pitches, may be ECB should think about carrying the pitches and weather wherever England team goes to play .😊
If Conditions are to be given credit here exactly same is responsible for legendary career of Clouderson sorry James Anderson who without rain clounds dukes ball etc etc sometimes failed in Australia too.. like they say Ball starts spinning kids start crying 😢😢😢
Why to win toss and put opposition to bat ?? Knowing India winning all match batting first and Eng lost batting 2nd vs AUs and SA. Absolute bizarre decision to bat 2nd in low and slow wicket against India high class spinners .
India played Pakistan on a seaming, uneven deck; Australia on a better and England on a slow deck with help for spin.
Why is that Eng experts never talk about conditions when the other teams lose and Eng wins, is it that difficult that your team is not good enough that day, spare a thought.
There are only three teams that cry over pitches and conditions, English Australians and Pakistanis. Rest all the teams just keep doing their job on every kind of pitch or condition unless they are threatening enough to get players hurt badly . These three teams are just pure disgrace as well for all kind of nonsense on the field and off the field.
Kumar Dharmasena won two odi world cups. One for Sri Lanka in 1996 and another for England in 2019😂
Conditions were equal for both teams.
Who told Buttler to bowl first on slow and low pitch.
Always crying Foreigners.
England have 4 overseas players and only 7 England players.