B.C. chief calls on the Pope to come to Canada for residential school apology | APTN News
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- Lheidli T'enneh Chief Dolleen Logan wants the Pope to come to Canada and accept responsibility for the Catholic Church’s role in residential schools.
Logan said if the Catholic Church is serious about reconciliation, the journey starts in Canada.
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The government allowed this. Far as im concerned, trudeau needs to apologize for his fathers role then.
100% agree
i'm going to make a wild guess here, but if you couldn't find a way to try to pin this on trudeau 'somehow', i suspect you'd care a lot less.
Justin Trudeau has nothing to do with it. And he shouldn’t have to apologize for his father. So kick rocks 😒
@@bobbybuilder9126 by this logic - neither should the Catholic church
@@jasonclarke7557 you'd be guessing wrong. Everyone in Canada cares. But it's a government problem that they've ignored.
I'm not sure why anyone would be satisfied with an apology. What about criminal charges. The last school closed in 1997. It's possible to take this to court. Child abduction, Criminal Neglect, Abuse and murder.
The schools were on or close to the reserves before the government bought them . The natives themselves were using them.
@@redwater4778 where did you get that info?
@@manis8569 It's not that hard to figure out. Why else would the churches build the schools on reserves if not for natives.
They wouldn't have been for white kids as most started working at age 10.
Absurd.
What’s absurd about it ?
I understand this to be true "The Governor-General may dismiss an incumbent Prime Minister and Cabinet, an individual Minister, or any other official who holds office "during the Queen's pleasure" or "during the Governor-General's pleasure". ... The Governor-General can also dissolve Parliament and call elections without Prime Ministerial advice."
yup and when they are appointed by the criminal we want to fire they quit and take a pension and let the PM appoint another follower. Time to remove this position.
Never expected the Native American Roman Catholic Holy war of 2021 to show up on my bingo card.
How is pointing out accountability a holy war?
Give it a rest, why didn’t the elders do some years ago,you all new
Exactly this was all made public over 10 years ago, when Stephen Harper was still our prime minister... And actually over three years ago Pope Francis already denied an apology for the children at the residential schools. This newfound outrage is just a product of the new age cancel culture
@Hope Diamond actually it's very accurate.
We didn't "discover the graves." We also know the majority died of TB with the rest likely dying of standard diseases at the time. We knew they were there, the only thing scumy about this is them removing the headstones.
“Crime scenes”? Yea we actually don’t know that until an investigation is done.
Bro they fucking buried children in a big hole…. That’s fucked up
@@strangeduke9437 no bro they are not. That was lie #1 told by the media, a mistake by the Kamloops chief. She then corrected herself and this information was slipped into some news article that they are in fact unmarked graves.. like individuals graves but don’t have anything identifying.. like for exactly a wooden cross that decomposes in some years. Rule #1: always question the self- serving media.
@@strangeduke9437 bro mass graves happened more than you realize
Also this is LIEdar not LIDAR
It’s illegal to leave a grave site “unmarked”. There must be a tombstone that identifies the dead person or it’s illegal.
@@righteousred723 they were not "mass graves." They were given individual plots, likely buried with a religious ceremony, they even had headstones. Yeah, the headstones shouldn't have been removed but stop spreading that "mass graves" BS.
Bawhahahaha now that the BC chief said it, the Pope will definitely listen lmao
If you DEMAND an apology and get it, how would you ever actually know it was sincere? You (sometimes) get a sincere apology when the offending party decides to give one of free will.
What is the difference if he apologized from Vatican City or on Canadian soil?
He can't accept responsibility for something he personally had no part of. He could acknowledge it but an apology from someone not involved means nothing.
This has been known for a long time. It's just becoming news now for some reason. It was a horrible thing. However it's in the past. Should the Mongols apologize for invading Europe ? Every culture has bad past. Perhaps we should all apologize indefinitely for it and always strip away our heritage and traditions . Trying to hold people in the past to today's standards doesn't make sense. It was a harder time and a brutal time and the people loving in it were much stronger fiercer ,braver. They had to be! The funniest part is that if it wasn't for these people none of us would exist let alone have anything. But what's good is. 50 users from now. Some woke baby will ate many of today's generation for not living up to the standards of the future. They'll hate ya for it, they'll curse your family name. And spit on your grave. And all because of a movement that some woke baby of today started . Turn around is fair play.
Why was this discussed in the House of Commons many years ago and it's just coming out to the media now
STOP THE LIES
Fighting oppression by actively participating in your own enslavement and oppression, sounds logical
weird tho, the pope wasn't even born when this started. i guess he can apoloqlgize for the institution
That's his job. He's an apologist wanker LoL
Dig up the graves of old popes and spit on them and bury them again? lesson to all?
@@littleLightLamp So tolerant.
@@littleLightLamp vile
@@lmlmlmlm7627 is that it? wait till you hear my inner thoughts.
Perhaps Popester will ask about the 10 kids Liz & Phil took on picnic in '64 or maybe Pickton Piggy Palace? What about the mass grave in Brantford Ontario? hmm no?
Three years ago they asked Pope Francis to apologize, and I believe one of the Cardinals said the pope would never apologize because technically Canada is its own sect of the Catholic Diocese and the Roman Catholic Church in the Vatican doesn't claim any responsibility for the way the native children were treated at the residential schools...
“Vengeance is mine I will repay saith the Lord “ Romans 12:19
I don't see why an apology from the Pope would really change anything?
It only affirms his "forgiveness for hire" false religion is a lie
For reconciliation. To openly recognize the tortures of nameless children. To condemn the cruel burial of their innocent lives.
To renounce his works. To renounce his pomps, and to go in peace. If the Catholic Church works Against Satan that is.
I beg you to reflect more on what it would be like to BE one of those children or the parents who never got to see them again. You would want an apology at the very least if this story was about your ancestors - the family members you’d never get to meet… how do people still not understand the golden rule?!?
It's not it's just about killing current white Caucasian culture and values. Completely trying to eradicate anything relating to White Europeans
@@BiggerThenKingKong … it’s not like Canadians would fall for division politics from a government who always has Canadians best interest in mind and be living in modern day segregation on everything from politics to religion. I mean racially targeting candians based solely on their background or religious belief would be wrong …
Yeah he only got into office in 2013 but let's demand he apologize.
The pope represents the Catholic Church, it’s got nothing to do with when he became pope. The church is afraid if they apologize for past crimes they would have to pay some sort of monetary settlement and we all know how much the church hates to give money for anything.
@@doreenblatz2440 so? It's not the same catholic church just like how this is not the same society so why should he have to Apologize for something that he and his church has nothing to do with? If they want apologies they should be searching for and demonizing the people who actually ran and taught at these schools and not the innocent people just living their lives.
@@kingbud4966
Native American here.
There was a statue of the queen that was torn down allegedly because of this controversy over residential schools. People have known about the schools for decades, and the canadian government had more of a roll in them than the pope or queen imo. Id rather have people *not riot and tear stuff down* than have sensitive babies getting offended on my behalf when i dont give two shits about getting any "reparations".
@@doreenblatz2440 and on top of that. Natives in Canada live the easiest lives out of all Canadian citizens already and they do not need anymore from anyone. That's what has made them so spoiled in the first place and why they are nothing like their better half that lives in America.
@@pinesandtraplines most natives are like you and would say "who cares" you guys aren't the issues. It's some of these cheifs and other higher ups that hold you back making your lives worse in the process.
What does the Queen Elizabeth have to say?
not just an apology they better start paying out some cash some serious cash
lmao. We know what the Indians want. Believe me.
that's what all this grievance hustling is about after all.
The phrase "beating a dead horse" comes to mind.
right? people with dead family members and a genocide committed against them should just get over it already. sheesh.
@@jasonclarke7557 ya, an apology from the pope, and me "acknowledging the ancestral land" of the peoples I'm having a meeting on, is going to correct all that.....
@@isaacgriffin5690 who said it would? but doing nothing? that's not the answer either. being a little dbag definitely isn't the answer.
@@jasonclarke7557 wrong Pope,dude. That Polish guy died a good minute ago. This new Pope its gonna be like wtf ok whatever.
@@ZebbMassiv are you dumb for a living?
That sob will never apologize,my question is who’s going to be held accountable for this genocide !!
F.y.i tuberculosis was running high in those time only autopsy will say how they died think before you speak non sense SHEEP
Genocide? BS it was an act of hate perpetrated without the knowledge of the vast majority of Canadians. It's not like natives aren't and weren't killing each other long before the white man ever came. Fortunately it wasn't china or india or africa or you'd all be wiped out or enslaved.
Maybe the candian liberal party/government should apologize to the families as-well considering they took power of the schools over from the Catholic Church in the late 60’s and have just as much blood on their hands.
If it happened in the past which it did it should be everyone's job to make sure it doesn't happen again which it hasn't since they shut them down. Seems like progress without having to destroy celebrations and pull down statues like you're American lmao have some Canadian decency and take pride in it not happening any longer.
9000 children graves were found in Ireland at the houses for unwed mothers ran by the church,,,and as far as i know the pope didn't visit those sites. RIP, all children of the grave.
Excellent!
Just dismantle that Roman snake pit!
Do they get APTN in Italy?
As a great show once said either name a price or get the fk over it
See how your history can come back to haunt you!!
This whole show proves people don't actually know their history, including yourself.
Natives sacrifice 60 000 children in 1 day for the god of rain look it up
this is revisionism, not history.
Dealing with the past is fine, but dealing with the present is most important. Canada is great at apologizing for the past, what about today? What are the undercover OPP, Toronto Police and RCMP, Peel Region Police, Durham Region Police doing in their communities? In our schools, our work places and in jurisdictions across Canada?
We are rapidly losing our global reputation and economy. The above police agencies and their "leaders" are a big reason why.
those children died at the hands of Catholic brothers and sisters. How the Pope will talk this one out will be entertaining.
Pedophiles and sex devients ... the same ones as today
@@johnh23z Exactly. Luciferians are alive and well in the Catholic Church.
@Brett S Is that you satan?
They died of TB
@@isaacgriffin5690 right they died from pandemic not murder
As a Canadian, I speak for many when I say I don't give a damn
Damn straight, it's not like they don't have enough privileges that put them above regular tax-paying Canadians only for them to constantly play the victim card.
I'm a Canadian you don't speak for me.
You speak for yourself. And if you truly don't care you wouldn't comment.
@@alphariusomegon4442 It's "old stock" Canadians that seem insistent on playing the victim card.
@@A_M_Bobb oh yes, that is absolutely hilarious. Had a stepmother in CFS that would tell all the horror stories about the kids she had to take away from abusive families from one group of people in particular,.. I WONDER WHY most of them are terrible parent's?
Pierre Trudeau legacy on this is very distrubing. Piece of white paper. Unreal
Pierre got tired of crybaby Indians . Most of us have.
Haha lmfao
What could be worse than being a child and having Catholics after you? Yikes
Being a child with Natives raising you?
@@snlop3927 I don't think natives are a part of a worldwide pedophile ring tho? Being raised by natives doesn't come the daily threat of being raped and murdered like being in the care of Catholics, correct?
Catholics built the first schools hospitals and orphanages in Canada. They should be honored for this.
@Bright Light Going to school isn't genocide . When the Iroquois killed all the Hurons, that was genocide.
@Bright Light Some were taking from northern villages as there were no schools up there.
Many a white kid was put in boarding school. Do they get government payouts?
Come apologize Pope so we can then magically pretend that everything is fine again!
I feel that you have gaps in your history teachings. If you did research this a bit more you'd know the catholic church was forced by the government to apply policies in the school. Government is direcrly resoonsible for killing those natives since it cut down their hunting territories and tried assimilation.
The Queen of England has done the right thing 👏n so can the Pope ...how dare anyone not say sorry for so many dead children...thats what religion is about...now you have to forgive yourself
But this current Pope had nothing to do with those Native American children.
Actually Christianity is about apologizing for YOUR OWN sins.
It wasn't "the church" that oversaw the schools, it was a specific branch. Like blaming "all Muslims" for ISIS.
Face to Face apology is extremely sincere.
It was already done dufus!
@scissor hanz apology for what the priest and nuns did to my people in the Residential School's. All run by catholic church funded by canadian government.
@@triggerwarningiidentifyasc725 from the pope jackazz
@scissor hanz list what you know. My children didn't attend Residential School for you're information.
@scissor hanz yes . You seem to have it all figured out🧐
🙄 really guys? how bout u just carry on living your lives? The pope owes you nothing
The papacy's foundation is the blood spilled and riches stolen from other cultures. They owe everything.
@@A_M_Bobb oh, the pope did that, did he? An old man who spent his whole life walking around, praying, and kissing babies? He owes you something does he?
@@magicskyfairy69 Probably prepping some choir boys on the down low too :P
@@magicskyfairy69 did I say the Pope specifically?
@@A_M_Bobb The title of the video is literally "B.C. chief calls on the Pope to come to Canada for residential school apology". Seems you're wanting him to do that
You realize the fed gov managed half the school as well..... it also doesnt help that the chiefs of reserves make millions of dollars while many aboriginals on said reserves are living in poverty
Maybe clean up your own house before pointing fingers
Isn’t that what you are doing right now tho..?
Even nigerian catholics need to say sorry?
Philippines are super Catholic. Blame em all too
And Indigenous Catholics smh
@Hope Diamond they aren’t forced now.. unless you are telling me that Indigenous people don’t have minds to think for themselves or take responsibility for their lives, or they don’t have the freedom to worship whoever they want to worship 😉
@Hope Diamond I guess you had no sensible response 😉
bahahaha, uh won't happen/
The government has to apologise. Canada has to apologize, not another country. It is going backwards
So, were they murdered or did they die from diseases or what? IF THEY WERE UNMARKED GRAVES you can pretty much ask for that ,but not murders.
Let them rest inpeace YOU ARE TAKING justin t. Drama to a place it does not belong.
That graveyard has been there for a decade, these graves are not hidden. They died of TB, let them rest in God.
Why not give an apology if that's asked of you the Catholic Pope?
Demanding an apology, from anyone not directly involved is like blaming Indigenous people, who not directly involved for allowing it to happen.
It’s not like that at all. The institutions responsible still exist, and a part of the reason they still exist are the riches, land and people they stole from to build their empires. Those institutions want to remain? They need to own up to what they did.
Good luck with that . They never did care !!
We don;t need the apologies, talk is cheap and worth nothing. We need to prosecute them, make them pay, then get rid of this mafia organization.
cringe lol
Canadian government that time played the role to native genocide as well, alone churche dared not to be so crazy.
They were both complicit. And both responsible.
To all the people commenting that the Pope or themselves are not to blame and we should all just let it go and move on, a couple of points.
Firstly, let's stop calling these institutions, schools. They were concentration camps for children.
Secondly, you don't have to be to blame in order to accept responsibility, especially the responsibility to correct those wrongs of the past which still poison the present. We are not just talking about some distant events, we are talking about the very real and disastrous, multi-generational effects on individuals, families and nations. We are talking about now, not "then".
Someone said below, that the Pope wasn't even born when this happened. Firstly that's wrong. He was very much alive when the concentration camps were being operated by his church. Even if it were true, the Pope would still be responsible to speak and act on behalf of the Catholic Church. That's what being the boss means.
Someone else asked if it was confirmed that these children were murdered or if they were just buried "too close together or something"? WTF is wrong with you? These children were stolen from their homes and died from neglect and abuse. And yes, some were deliberately murdered. All of them were buried without informing their families of their death, hidden in unmarked graves. Who was hiding what? Why don't you want to know? Why don't you care. What is wrong with you?
Influenza, Do a quick google about it and learn how devastating it was for native communities that were left with very few resources after the war. How the coroners ran out of coffins and the dead were piling up so fast that mass burials were common.
All well put points, especially the 3rd one!
Thank you 👏🏻 No matter what rebuttal someone wants to bring - they better reflect first! Being the devil’s advocate in this situation brings a whole new meaning to the phrase…
Native American here.
There was a statue of the queen that was torn down by rioters allegedly because of this finding on residential schools. Keep in mind this is something you could have known of for decades, the residential schools. It was the Canadian government that we should hold accountable, not a spiritual leader or monarch halfway across the world who probably didnt even know or have much of a say (if any) on residential schools.
Id rather have no one blamed and/or harassed if youre going to let people tear down statues unrelated to residential schools.
@@pinesandtraplines Yes the Canadian Government should be held accountable but so should the British Crown, which was in charge at the inception of the concentration camps. So should the Church of England (Anglicans / Episcopalians) and the Catholic Church, which ran the schools and covered up the crimes.
And who runs the Catholic Church today? Say it out loud please.
This is getting rediculous very fast.
His apology is worthless. If he steps om Canadian soil he should be thrown in prison.
Are you suggesting having people arrested for the transgression 's of there predecessors?
The current pope was not in power then.
And I would say the pope even at that time had no idea. You think he has full knowledge of all the doings of the church?
Sure he would... for a crime the English committed under a Protestant Monarchy...
@@OtherlingQueen can you provide a case law.
@John Doe That word will soon have no meaning because of people like you.
But please enlighten me and tell what I said that was racist. Let me bask in your knowledge. You Devine wokeness your supreme Intellect I await.
@John Doe so in closing...
I have learned you have no real argument and are a CRT zealot with a total lack of any critical thinking.