Zodiac Jandy Ei Aquapure salt system quick fix on the cell
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- čas přidán 13. 09. 2024
- How to fix a Zodiac Jandy Ei salt system cell with a no flow and yellow light blinking. Just make sure to clean pump strainer and filter to make sure the water is flowing through the cell and make sure you turn off the electricity before doing any repairs. Easy and Quick fix on a salt system cell that you can do it yourself and you can prolong the life of the cell.
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Went to my local pool supplier, got a discarded cell for $20 bucks, recovered a heap of good plates and voila, my old EI unit's up and running again! Thanks Fresco!
This worked for me too. Thanks for posting this video! You saved me from having to buy another cell and wait for it's delivery.
I had to make one adjustment to your instructions because it would not work at first. I pulled off the black boot inside the cell. The electrode/connection rod was actually attached (or welded) to the original plate and that piece was still there. So, when I inserted my other plate with the tab cut it would not go all the way in and not make good connection, and the bottom was down too far That's probably why you had to notch the bottom of your plate. I pulled off the black boot inside and I worked the "new" plate/tab up beside the electrode to assure good contact. Now the bottoms of the plates were all even and I didn't have to notch the bottom of the plate. It worked.
+Shawn Gibby Worked for me too. I pulled the plastic sleeve off the negative terminal with needle nose plyers and then worked the plate next to the terminal.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR POSTING!!! I thought I was up for a couple of hundred dollars to replace the cell after cleaning it and not working and then found your video. Two days out from Christmas and all the family coming and the pool will be sparkling!!! Thank you so much again!!! It is very much appreciated from Brisbane Australia. Cheers...
HI Fresco,
The NO flow red light is the blue wire it is connected to a probe that needs to touch the water inside the cell. This tells the machine that there is water present or water flow. There is a straw that pulls the air out of the top of the cell. If the tube or straw is missing or broken, the cell will have air at the top and the red NO flow light will come on, even if you have plenty of water flow. The Titanium plates have a coating on them, once the coating wears off, it will not convert sodium chloride to chlorine. You cannot just put any metal plate inside, it will not work. Your troubleshooting was very ingenuous, nice work but it will not last long. Basically, you were able to re connect the grounding probe that connected the blue wire to the water probe that tells the machine to turn on. Yay, nice work,,, but,,, the plates have a 3 to 4 year life before they wear out. Acid washing is very important also, you need to check and clean the cell at least monthly, it not, the calcium that bridges the gap will eat the iridium coating and shorten the life of the cell.
Do you know specifically how the blue wire gets its signal that there is water at the sensor? I have already replaced my chlorination unit and still getting no flow. I am wanting to find some way to troubleshoot it.
@@johnwaldee6283 I am having the same issue. Did you ever find a solution ?
My cell is brand new. It still says no flow, low temp or low salt depending on the day.. my cords is frayed where the leads meet the head. Any advice for repairing them? I cannot find a replacement
Melbourne, Australia here. My Zodiac Ei25 did have the very same issue. It has ~6500h. Your solution did work but with a small change. The change I had to use was caused by the bottom clip not being able to create a proper electrical contact with the modified plate. The solution I used was to clean the bottom contact and then add a spring to the plate (where the cut has been done) , then insert a screw into the spring pointing down with the screw head. In this way I did succeed to have a proper electrical contact between the modified plate and bottom contact. After doing this the Zodiac did start working properly with me being able to change the output to maximum. Thanks a lot for the tip provided in your video. I expect this workaround to work for a while, but I did order one new cell anyway with $459AUD from eBay pool shop.
Glad I could help you out man.
I had the same issue with the flow light. I tried this fix and it worked, the flow light went off and the system seems to be working fine. Thanks for the post you saved me $450.00 by doing this video.
glad i can help
Great tip friend! You gave me a start. The electrode had corroded and new tip was too short to make contact with the eroded electrode.
I ended up cutting about 1/4 inch off the bottom effectively lengthening the tip. I put cut strips if a bicycle inner tube on top of the plate between the two taller ones. I made it thick enough that it put pressure from the clip on the top of the plate. Voila! It worked, how long I don't know for how long but It buys me time!
Thanks Brother you saved me a few hundred as well. I did not think this was my problem, because you cannot tell that the plate is all ate up until you actually pull all of them out of the cell. I pulled them out and one of my active plates were worse than yours was. Fix worked great.
Just did this to mine. I soldered a tab and extended the lead about an inch so it would touch plate and put it all back together and started working again. THANK YOU for this info!
Can you explain to me what you did exactly? My leads are frayed going into the little head thing. Wondering if i can take them apart and redo them?mine is saying no flow sometimes, sometimes low temp or salt. My cell is brand new. I cant find the replacement for the cord. Wondering if there is a way to repair?
Cheers. We were quoted over 700 New Zealand dollars yesterday to replace the cell. Followed your video this morning and the issue has gone away. Thanks!
you are great my friend, truly! I AM a pool maintenance worker but I happen to be the only one around with this Jandy setup (surely not, but at least in our system of clients). saved me tons brother- thank you!!
You're very welcome!
Thanks, worked perfectly !
Will try to find a used cell, all the other plates are like new after 3 years, Zodiac must be aware of this issue but want the money for a new cell, rather than a replacement for one plate, corporate greed !.
You're a legend.
this worked for me too , don't think it will last forever but Im getting more life out of the cell. You are a legend
Man, you are a legend. I had exactly the same problem. Followed you video and bam, thing worked straight up. Took me longer to watch the video than to make the fix.
What shits me is that I bet the pool service companies and Zodiac themselves know exactly the problem but refuse to tell you. Instead they hope we will spend a ridiculous amount of money for what is a 5 minute fix.
Off to see if I can buy just some plates or maybe salvage some from a written off unit.
Cheers brother!!!!
Darren Gibcus this legit worked for You?
Wow. Incredibly helpful video. We've had nothing but trouble with our cell since the pool was built. Ours is a different style, but this is great to know the innards and how it works. Thanks for posting!
Thanks for watching!
This was a great help, even I a women was able to fix my cell. Took it apart and the center plate was ate away as demonstrated in this video👍🏼👏🏻So excited. Fixed and working.
I was quoted $600 dollars for a new one plus installation. Tried this and it works! Thanks so much for sharing!
Thanks bro i appreciate the support
Great work, I had the same problem. Your solution worked perfectly, thanks mate...saved me $350 in Australia
That's cool bro thanks
The chlorinator cell consists of parallel titanium plates coated with ruthenium and sometimes iridium Just buy the plates if you have to replace them! Found this on Wikipedia To clean them mix Muriatic Acid about 2/3 with water remove the unit flip upside down and pour the acid mix in and let soak a few minutes. Don't do it too often it does wear out the plates.
+Phillip Magnetti Did you find a source to buy the plates? Pulled our cell apart and our plate was toast too after install 14 months ago (ugh). Guess we need to clean it regularly to try to prevent this from happening.
You can't just buy the plates just purchase the replacement part completely
This is extremely valuable knowlege!! Not just 'stainless steel' but some hightech alloys. PLEASE advise us where we can find these items - they're very exotic.
Many thanks for the tips. My Jandy cell costs around US$500. This will really help, especially if I can use SS plates made at home.
Thank you so much. I got the run around as you. Jandy had me order the cover assembly, however after trying your fix, it worked. I made the cuts with metal snips and it worked great. Think I will have someone cut me a supply of the metal plates in anticipation of next time one fails. I will return the part I ordered from Jandy as soon as it arrives!
This was helpful, thank you. My issue was that the plate that made contact with the electrode had worn through. I was not able to solder a new contact because the solder would not adhere to the electrode, but I was able to tack weld it. Be careful if you weld to stainless steel.
Awesome, worked for me. No wonder the company was not happy to help you. We need to find out were to buy the plates. Thanks again
Good video and great you took the time to make it . I've only been able to get 2-1/2 years out of a Jandy APure35 cell. Today I ordered a third one (R0511400). Seems the black capped electrode corrodes at the weld where it joins the plate. While waiting for the new one I decided to see if I could cobble up one from the old units. I took one of the "red" electrodes out and made it into a "black". The electrodes will come out by clamping the terminal with vise grips and hammering down on the cap. The electrode post on the plate inserts into the terinal pin and is held in by an interference fit. The post on the plate goes through the cap and is sealed by an o-ring that seats against the bottom of the cap. Before installing the replacement red for the black, sand down some of the electrode post so it will insert more easily into the terminal pin. If you use the red terminal pin (it is split) it will have to be spread slightly to get a snug fit with the electrical cap because the black terminal has a larger diameter. When my pool was build the crew left behind a "dummy" cap, so I was able remove the cell without having to close down the pool. I got by with clorine tablets in the meantime. Hope this is helpful. This method, although requires ordering a replacement or two over the years, it will give a better bond of the electrode to the plate and doesn't require cutting the plates.
Thanks mate. Fixed my Zodiac Tri Chlorinator as shown. Had to reset the Cell Hours as well before it started working. Hopefully will get a few more years out of it now. They could so easily make these plates consumables instead of nearly charging the cost of a complete new system just for the cell.
Thankfully I had a bunch of those plates from non working salt cells and got my customer up and going with is simple fix.
The reason your center plate is shorter is due to arcing. The plate was originally welded to the center contact. The contact corroded and then started to arc with the plate, burning away the bottom. Not a good idea to just sit a plate on the contact. Shorting will occur constantly and could damage your salt water chlorinator.
Brilliant. Thanks mate. They don't manufacture the ei units for my one anymore. I found them on Ebay a couple of years ago when the first unit failed. Had to buy chlorinator and digital unit. Quite cheap, but not as cheap as fifteen minutes and a couple of Dremel cuts. Legend
Fantastic! This worked for me, saved $600 in a time that I have absolutely no cash :) You are a legend, thanks heaps mate!
you're welcome 👍😎
I'm not a pool repair guy but it worked for me
I just replaced mine. Would you like the old one where most of the metal plates are in good shape?
Are the cuts required? The other plates fit fine without any cutting.
you should not use stainless. 1 its expensive, 2 the chrome in them will make chromates that are toxic 3 they will be consumed. You could use copper, its expansive, will be consumed but the copper compounds are not very toxic to most people and would help kill algae. Typically companies use titanium because it last longer and cheap. the best thing would be platinum coated items but that is a lot of money.
I am pool repair!! Very impressive!! I will share this video with my customers... cause, like you said... broke is broke... so give it a try!! Nice job!!
Ty very mutch my friend work for me for 2years after Bush fix but miss some plate after this i Buy another one last years and keep the old one for future fix and now my New one break after 16 month but i have spare part from the old one Nice video
No problem 👍
Great Video, it was exactly my problem as well!
I couldnt get my Free Chlrorine to come up.
Mine was partially still working maybe @ 25 % as some plates were still good and current flow. I moved them around and cleaned them and now they may be working @ 50%.
Gonna visit the local pool store to see if they have a broken one around that I can salvage some plates from to get mine back up to 100%
Anyone know what the BLUE lead does and is it suppose to connect to a plate?
Thanks for sharing , I have the same problem. Tomorrow I'm going to try to fix it. The cell plates are made of titanium with a cover of Rhodium, Inox won't last too long.
Good luck! Thanks for watching.
worked for me. The plates are bonded to the contacts and are one piece all the way to the external connector. As long as the plate is near the contact it will work. The part that looks like rubber is just a cover for the contact area.
Legend! Worked for our Zodiac Tri Expert 10 as well. Thanks for sharing, highly appreciated. How long did it worked for you before you had to change the cell or plate again?
You're a legend - you just saved me $350. Thanks!
Olá amigo sou do Brasil funcionou com inox ?
Ou você utilizou placas de titânio
Great Video. !!! I feel sorry for people who are not handy and have to call for service any little thing comes up in their life. Same with auto industry, plumbers, electricians etc. etc. if you don't do repairs yourself you have to bend over. They make us pay for unnecessary repairs and constantly change designs and even laws to eliminate GREAT PEOPLE LIKE Yourself . It is sad that we live in a world where we are taken advantage of just because of pure greed. Thanks again man. Great tutorial.
Thanks for the support!
Thanks for the Vid. Helped me diagnose my "low Salt" and flow issues. Unfortunately, not only was my plate corroded, but the whole terminal as well. Guess i'll need to order a new cell, but at least its a quarter of the price of a new system.
Wow that's amazing bro, good luck fixing and replacing it.
I thought mine was also corroded, but it was only a rubber grommet that fit over the connection inside the cell. So instead of cutting out a section like in this video, I cut the plate to have a tab that slid inside the grommet.....
Great video...just wondering if you have to change the cell since then as this is 5 years ago.
Same! Where u at buddy?
@@richardraymond5535 can't remember what i did but problem solved...ready to open for another season in 1 month in Canada
You saved my ass..... this was exactly my issue and easy fix...... it's nice to save money and fix the problem with easy labor...... the family now thinks in superman for saving the day.....
Thank you bro
The Plates are Tungsten and have a special coating but I made a replacement plate for the center electrode from 1mm Stainless Steel and it works. Not sure how long it will last but so far so good after 2 weeks. $350 saving for me :D
Thanks, it worked for my zodiac Ei. Companies need to sell parts not send the whole thing to land fill.
Thx for saving me 250 dollars. Easy fix and works like a charm.
Thanyou heaps! You just saved me $350 ... 20 minutes of dremel work and trial and fit :-)
Great video mate !! Fixed my chlorinator right up in about 10min.
Thanks bro
Hi Worked great just finished and installed it took 20 mins to do and working fine fresco channel how long did the repair last on your cell before it corroded stopped working again Thanks
Thanks man, this is great!!!! I know what to do tomorrow. I am actually quite p!ssed at Zodiac. We had a fault on the mainboard and they offered NO support or assistance. It was a Film Capacitor that had melted and Fluidra (the new owners of Zodiac) recommended to order a NEW mainboard @ $560 USD + $220 USD DHL to the Philippines - WTF (this is more than the entire system cost new only 4 years ago)???. I replaced the capacitor for $0.50 (and 2 hours of my time). Tomorrow I am digging into the cell and should get everything working again. If I could send you $20 for your advice I would - at least it's a few beers to enjoy your crystal blue pool :)
Dang bro no problem, good luck. Thanks for watching
Just what I needed! Thanks Fresco !!
youre welcome
I am trying to use the trick displayed in the video. However, the black electrode is difficult to remove. Any hint?
Thank you for your tip! It was a successful fix for me. Thanks for sharing!
Excellent explanation, well done !!
Awesome - followed the instructions and worked perfectly! Great work!
Very helpful video!! Thanks so much.
Champion, worked perfectly
Thanks for the tip. I am on my second Jandy APure 35 cell and this one is giving me the low-flow light and not generating chlorine. I took out the plates and switched them around as you instructed, and everything works! Thanks again. You saved me a couple hundred bucks. Did you find out what the plates are made of?
Glad it worked for you too. I am going to cut out stainless steel plates to see if it works.
+fresco channel they are made of titanium my friend
thanks so much for the video!! did what you said...cell is all good again!!!!
thank you so much, did the same took 10mins , your awesome
Thank you bro
No problem
Hello from Australia. Great work mate. Saved me a bit of coin. Shout you a beer if your ever down under👍
Great stuff worked for me, are they definitely stainless steel
I’m about to buy the third one. Price increased from 380$ to 595$ cad. I want to fix it. The middle rod is too small and doesn’t reach the plate anymore, your idea is not working. I will change it… and see how it goes… probably post it .. if it’s working !!
Mate, you're a champion! You just saved us $450 two days after Christmas. Thanks heaps for posting this video.
anything to save the money 👍😎
Are the cuts required? The other cells fit in the slot without the cuts and it does close.
I'm not sure, but if it worked, then go ahead.
Excellent. Im going to do what you did, thx.
Glad it helped
aren't those plates titanium Fresco...
Scott Pearson i don't think so it looked like metal
You know what? This is a helpful video
yeehaa, did what you said and four green lights. thankyou very much for posting this.
do you recommend this unit?
The solution to my problem was that the black wire from the cell was loose at the terminal on the circuit board.
I did the same. Works! Thanks
No problem bro, thanks for the support.
Where do you buy the plates for this? SOS
I have found titanium plates of 10x10cm in Aliexpress, but i have to try them yet.
good video. Good job.
the plates wear out when the dial is set too high and the salt is too low, high dial kinda defeats the purpose of a salt pool
I HAVE A JANDY SFTM25 MODEL SALT CHLORINE GENERATOR AND IT IS NOT PRODUCING CHLORINE. THE FLOW LIGHT IS RED AND THE SALT LIGT DOES NOT COME ON. THE FIVE CIRCLE IN A LINE OF LIGHTS ONLY SHOWS THE FIRST CIRCLE. I NEED HELP. PLEASE ADVISE ME AT WHAT I NEED TO DO TO GET THIS FIX. I DONT HAVE MONEY TO HIRE SOMEONE AND THE COMPANY THAT PUT IN MY POOL IS NOW OUT OF BUSINESS. THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR HELP GOD BLESS
Awesome... & Right on Guy! Thanx for the tip... I'll let you know if this works for Me.. :)
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The cells are titanium not stainless steel. J/s
with w rhodium coating
Bravo ! ! ! !
work for me tanks😎😎😎
The plate is titanium
The pool company COULDENT help that's straight lazy
I DON’T LIKE THIS COMPANY JANDY THE GOOD COMPANY AND SALT GENERATOR IS CIRCUPOOL BEST COMPANY IN PRODUCT AND BETTER SERVICE NO LIKE JANDY
How to Void your Warranty.
those plates are coated and all come from same manufacturer... PLEASE DO NOT FOLLOW THIS ADVICE.
IF THAT CELL GENERATES WHEN THE FLOW SWITCH IS BAD IT WILL MAKE HYDROGEN GAS...
just fix shit properly or dont own luxury items you can not afford.
Absolute rubbish it needs more energy to do this than cracking the salt to Cl and O2
I should clarify. H2O is constantly breaking and re-making its bonds, constantly. Adding energy like heat speeds this up. Oxygen is highly polar and bonds with 2 Hydrogen atoms to form water and these bonds are constantly broken and remade. Hydrogen can form H2 gas but its more likely to re-bond with oxygen to form H2O.
Adding electrical current does break this bond but it quickly reforms to H2O. However, the salt is broken into NA/Cl2. Sodium and Chlorine gas. The sodium doesn't last long (its very highly reactive) and does dissipate with the billions of H2O molecules. The Cl2 doesn't last long as well but in Gas form, Cl2, it'll last longer than the sodium, which is what we want. Chlorine!
Yes adding too much energy can break molecule bonds but given we start with H2O and NaCl we always end up with H20 and Cl2 (gas). Yes this is simplified (not showing ions) but we are not going to end up with H2 gas when there is highly reactive Oxygen to bond with. End of story.