Three Must-Know Skills to Pass the FS Exam | Fundamentals of Surveying Exam
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- Passing the Fundamentals of Surveying exam is difficult! Only about 50% of first-time takers pass the exam, while about 25% of repeat takers.
One of the reasons the pass rate is so low is the variety of topics. There are 13 categories of questions on the current FS exam, and NCEES has just started its 6-year review cycle to create a “new” version of the exam.
But if you look closely at the NCEES FS Specifications, you will realize that only a few categories make-up the majority of the exam. Those categories include…sorry, you have to watch the video to find out!
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Table of Contents:
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00:00 - Start
00:09 - Welcome
01:12 - The FS is Far Reaching
03:58 - The Priority(Dignity) of Calls
05:19 - Rank the Dignity of the Evidence
07:02 - Solving a Missing Side or Angle
08:10 - Pre-programmed HP35
09:41 - Accuracy vs Precision
10:30 - Precision
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I am enjoying this lesson.
thank you SO much
Just passed the FS and got approved for the LSIT. Just wanted to say Thank You! Your videos helped in the process.
Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Congrats, Erik, you earned it.
Very interesting and easy to understand, well done. Thumbs up
This is very helpful ❤
Happy to hear that you found this useful!
Hi, my uncle had his own surveying business for a long time before he passed. I worked with him a couple times but never anything too technical, it’s been years since he passed and I am thinking of becoming a surveyor here in California but have no experience. Is that a bad idea ? I can work with some local surveyors I know who have continued my uncles work, to get a better understanding while also studying. Is this a rediculous I dea?
When I told my uncle I quit my job to take my FE exam he told me to take FS exam to take over his business. The prices for the study material are really cheap and the exam are alot cheaper then the last time I looked years ago.
Good info. Accuracy and precision can also refer to unit of measurement. eg. If you see something mapped as 10.2 feet and it measures as 10.16, the 10.2 is accurate to the precision of 10ths of a foot. If map states 10.20 feet, then the map loses the accuracy. Question for you as related to language used for requirements of filing an ROS instead of a corner record. Is there any standard for "Material Discrepancy"?
Hi Larry! Accuracy is closeness to the true value. It's an indication of how much error is in the measurement. Precision is repeatability. When the same quantity is measured multiple times, precision is reflected in the spread of values - how close the measurements are to each other. Having good precision does not mean you have good accuracy and vice versa.
Resolution is the smallest unit division of an instrument. For example, a steel tape was typically divided down to 0.01 ft and we could interpolate (maybe) 0.001 ft. But that was it. The equipment didn't support a measurement resolution to smaller than approx 1/10th of the instrument's least count. We'll sometimes say our measurements are "accurate to 0.01 ft based on the equipment used." That's not true. The resolution is 0.01 ft, but the accuracy may not be, Equipment resolution is just one error source and type which affect measurement accuracy.
The example of 10.2 ft on a map versus 10.16 ft measurement isn't really an indicator of accuracy or precision. Both came from different measurement conditions: equipment, personnel, and environment. Without knowing the standard deviation and standard errors for both dimensions, you really can't really say anything concrete about them. In fact, the 10.2 ft may be more accurate than the 10.16 ft if if the latter was made with equipment that wasn't centered correctly. Better technology doesn't always translate into better measurements.
As to your closing comment,: not sure what you mean by a material discrepancy standard. Do you mean difference between a record and resurvey dimension?
@@NLCTestPrep I agree with your definition of accuracy vs precision. I find this is often misunderstood, good job.
Just passed the FS . I would say finding a licensed surveyor to go over problems with and getting several practice tests helped the most. Also getting a programmed calculator helped not fill up my head with math and solving triangles.
Congrats on passing your exam!
Any tips? Planning on taking it in the next year or so
congrats! where did you get the programed calculator?
Can anyone take the test or is it required to have a degree in atleast computer science. Been surveying for 20 years, Been doing cad work, drafting, calculations and 3d modeling for the past 10 years. Have experience in civil, architectural and land surveying. Didn't know if it's possible to take the test straight up without any kind of collage time.
@@unknown-x-1777 at least in NY state you need I think 8 years of field experience. And you have to write a long resume on where and how much you know about surveying and the board of education will review it and accept you to take the exam.
On Q2, how do we know it wasn't a natural monument?
natural is nature, trees, rivers, whatever it calls to. artificial like man made
@@hugocruz3574 yes but q2 does not state if it was a Capped iron rod or if the corners were trees, or a large stone or even the mouth of a river
Im an AA survey student and I could pass this. Don't need a BA
got my Associates in Architecture and started working with a land surveyor where nothing leaves the door unless its beyond 100% perfect, subdivision plats, topos, boundary surveys, divisions, footers, cogo, etc. have worked with them for 2 years and im using my past knowledge of calc and physics etc, plus CZcams to help me pass the FS exam ...giving myself 8 months to study for this.
Great plan, Wolf! 8 - 12 weeks should be plenty of time to study.
I thought lines surveyed were most Senior.
Great question! But that's a little more advanced than the FS exam. That is typically not an answer choice on the FS exam. Plus, if the lines were not surveyed, then there likely wouldn't be bearings, distances, and monuments to "rank."
B is accurate but not precise because the shots are clustered together nicely; D is precise but not accurate because a portion of the shot pattern is closest to the bullseye.
This video has the terms reversed? 12:23
Hello Marc, thanks for the comment! You are mixed-up, the video is correct. I would recommend consulting Elementary Surveying (chapter 1) for a full explanation of accuracy and precision.
@@NLCTestPrep Thanks for this comment. I had my terms mixed up.
The video is correct.
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"*She* finds all monuments as described" so sick of this wording. Yet in nursing degree exams it's extremely rare to see "He administered" and only "he was treated by"