I Made The BEST BED For Van Life 😴 (Rising Bed Lift System)
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- čas přidán 9. 10. 2021
- This ended up being quite the project but was well worth it :)
Bed lift system
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- Drywall square: local hardware store (they get bent in shipping)
For anyone who is not in the US and gets a tad confused by this. The T-Slot Aluminium extrusions are not 8020 but look more like 4040 in dimensions. 80/20 is just a very popular brand name in the US for a company that supplies T-Slot Aluminium extrusion based kits along with extrusions and related hardware
Ah I see that now thanks for info
This is the bed I want with a lil office space under
"figuring it out along the way".. man if there ever was a true statemnt for DIY van build...
Dude; thank you for showing the mistakes and troubles.
Respect.
Love it, been sitting on this exact bed for a couple months. Was building a 2019 350HD and realized it was too much van for me, sold it for a profit and am restarting with a 2013 E350 with a high top. Glad you got this video up, thanks for sharing
Good choice
Yep. I opted for this bed too. No need to make it up or pull it down each day. Happy travels!
My idea was to cut out the roof section of the van over the bed. Then weld some aluminum side to the cut out roof section to create a box for the bed to raised up into. Then you will have full height use of the van.
Welcome back! Love the bed system, especially after you ‘savaged’ it!
This system is really slick. Nice job.
Love the build, can't wait to see the in depth version... thanks for your videos.
Oh I wish I could do things like you’ve done in your van. You’re so clever. I love this van!
This Van is gonna have everything. I love it
A prior comment referenced safety cut off switches to prevent the bed going up and possibly crushing and/or creating an asphyxiation situation. Such electrical interlocking is NOT enough on its own! You absolutely need positive mechanical stops of suitable strength that will stall the drive motor to prevent the bed from rising to a height that would do that. Limit switches, relays and/or contactors and anything electrical can fail - contacts weld themselves together, switches stick, etc. Not having positive mechanical stops would be similar to working under a car using just a jack. You don't do it - you always use a jack stand or some sort of mechanical blocking in case the jack fails. These stops could be designed so they can be held up and out of the way to raise the bed to full height for more storage, but they should then deploy when the bed is lowered. This would be similar to how the safety latches in a garage lift work.
YEEEEESSSSSSS!!! I’ve wanted to do this but not quite there yet on my technical ability. Thanks for doing this!!!!
This van is going to awesome when finished.
Perfect timing for this video. Thanks dude, your videos are great.
This is what I would want to do as well for the bed system. It would be nice to go up higher slightly more for a seating are underneath. Now Mr. Savage, I've got a new idea for you. Build a shower that combines hanging space up top and a fridge down below where there are two sections that slide out towards the front of the van and let's you shower. Then slide both back in. With this shower system along with this bed system you have the most efficient use of space in a van for sure!
it took me a minute to get my head around your idea... it's visionary... a solid space saver :)
Great job! Very professional! You’re so talented and live watching your content! Keep up the wonderful work!!
Thank you!
Thanks for giving a rundown of all options which everyone should do. Any other option should always be put out there ause is watching love what people have looked at and tried
Bed system is a great Idea and a high tech. I like the design on the up placement as I'm 5'6". But I can sleep side to side without Flares. Keep up the great work
Hadn’t heard or seen any videos since the fire around your house! Glad to see you posting 👍🏻
Amazing as always.
What about using the Froli sleep system? Little individual springs that come in a box and fit together. Get rid of the thud when you hit the bed.
Always looking forward to your videos.
Very nice job. We definitely need updates on your custom mattress👍🏼
Thanks for this! I've been looking into this and want this for my van!
Thanks to this video I finally found the best bedding option for me! I've been on the waitlist for this bed from Wilderness Vans for a while now and I got the good news last night that they are in stock. I paid up today and I can't wait to get this in my van (whenever my van gets delivered). I'm going to do the larger 80/20 bedframe also, hopefully, it's not too difficult attaching the motor & pully system to the new frame, looks pretty straight forward though. Thanks again!!
Super cool! Apologies for probably causing that shortage 😬.
Yep, it’s super easy to attach the pulley system to the 80/20 just requires some precision on placing things like the mounts.
@@seven_o_savage No kidding, when I called to originally get the bed, the lady on the phone said " I guess there is a youtube video out there with this bed and our company name on the box, everyone has been hitting us up about it"! You definitely sold some bed's HAHA!
Thanks again Seven for another great video. I was hoping you would have shown how you attached the tracks however. I looked at the maximum lift height you were able to achieve in your van compared that with other videos of the Revel’s Euroloft and even if you take in account you not having a mattress in this video, your bed lift doesn’t appear to travel as high as the one on the Winni.
I plan to purchase the Lippert system in build as well and since I am 6’ I will be using the mattress frame (those tensioned plywood slats in the OG frame allow for better body support) that comes with the unit and laterally configured it while extending the mattress length in the flare space however. Being 6’5” this will not work for you but I’m hoping this configuration will allow me to take a great advantage of the extra 26” a 170WB gives.
As for the price of the project 2000, I agree with all the comments here at $1900USD this is ridiculously overprice item. BTW- I see lots of places online advertising a replacement lift motor, I wonder if that is a clue that the motor in not robust enough? Even if you take in account the engineering/design work, this item should not be more then $1k. I hope someone in the van build community comes up with a DYI design solution. I am sure with the access of parts available in the 80/20 catalog, IKEA slats n’ frame, seat belt belting material and a off the self motor one can build it for 1/3 the price. With the high margins the manufacture has built into the pricing of this device it will be knocked off by a made in China solutions soon enough!
Good stuff
Thanks for info on the 8020 for the headaches it solves in framing rigs it’s pretty cheap
Ordering some now 🤙🏻
Wow this is amazing, thanks for sharing!
Great videos Mr. O Savage! I am doing my first van build on a 2021 2500 170wb and really like the layout you have put together. I will be carrying mountain bikes or dirt bikes so this bed system is ideal much like the revel. I am using a lot of your videos on the build (thank you). Seems like this bed it's only available to OEM manufacturers. Would you be willing to share your sketch-up files ;-)? Keep up the great work! We have a full metal fabrication/powder coating facility at your disposal if you fancy doing a build in NC, 'Savage Vans' has a ring to it!
Great job looks amazing
Just found your channel and this rocks! thanks so much! Perfect for my future goals.
I think one could easily self engineer the system. It is basically a pass-through right angle motor with a single shaft. I mean, you practically rebuilt this thing. This could have been built for much cheaper. Thoughts?
Yea 100%. It’d be so cool if someone did that
Single garage up and over door motor second hand £50, seat belt webbing from scrap breakers 4 casters and c Chanel, square section sly from scrap yard for frame, should be able to do it for less than £200
@@aarondudas5006 looks like 1530 series 80/20 with linear bearings that captivate on 3 sides.
Love it. One question: how much do all the interior fittings of your van weigh?
These videos are awesome. I’m going to build a truck camper this summer and this helps with a lot of ideas. Not to mention your explanation of how the electrical and plumbing works have been very informative. Thanks for all your hard work man!
Great bed, nice video. Greetings from Holland
Definitely a premium build. Im so jelly. I wish i could afford such good quality.
I’m hopeful someone sees this and makes a cheaper version!
@@seven_o_savage oh i wouldnt build it any other way from yours. Your build is a new benchmark. I spent 30 years working on airplanes and ships for the navy. Your level of craftsmanship and detail is off the charts for van conversions. Have you thought about opening your own van conversion company? Because youre build is amazing work.
@@tittyskillet3413 totally agree he could as he appears to love building them. He would do so well as people have seen how meticulous he is.
@@tittyskillet3413 Thank you so much! Yes, thought about it. Can't make the economics work out for me. I love doing it on youtube though!
Great video as usual! Thanks for putting up the alternative to Happy Jack. This one is still $$, but not as $$$ as the Happy Jack.
Absolutely amazing video that I was thinking of doing the same thing in my van. These guys are the only ones that sell the system. The Euroloft loft bed is only available to manufacturers, this seems to be an identical product.
Thanks! Ya it makes me sad when companies don’t sell to DIYers
@@seven_o_savage I live in the Netherlands. I went TWICE to the 5 day Camping and Caravan Exhibition last week and 80% (4 of the 5 halls) was about showing off new models of Campers, Caravans and Tents. In the remaining hall were companies showing off their batteries, solar panels, TV dishes, aircos and extractors and the company that was representing Lippert (the LCI Autoloft system, Tesa self-balancing system and Telair) were only interested in selling to Dealers, who would by 5 or 10 items at a time! So there are NO dealers here in NL that can help me buy a single LCI bed-lift system, just as you have installed!
Great video and I would love to discuss with you pb how I can get one here in NL!
@@thetangodancer Hey Ambrose yes it's unfortunate, I put a link to the bed lift kit in the video description
Nice work. I have a standard north south bed, so I have bed envy.
Love your set up!!! So much so that I am going with nearly the exact same in my new 2022 4x4 Sprinter 144. My rig is shorter than yours so I will have to loose some of the stuff you have on your van but the bed and bathroom are a must for me too. Both of our taste seem to be nearly Identical. How much time have you put in total on your build this point? How much time will you have in it for the finish product? How much money have you had to spend up to this video? What is your estimate for the total cost of your build? I absolutely love your video's and appreciate that you share the products you have researched. This will save me time because I am using everything you recommend. You rock, and thank you!!!
Great video man.
Mr. 7: awesome video. Thanks! What limits the bed travel on this model? Is it simply the positioning of the wall mounted guides? Also I noticed the European version of this has a rotation counter that doesn't exist on this one -- the counter can be tweeked as a high and low stop. Have you seen the European model? thanks again!
Awesome construction!
Great videos! Building end of this year or early next year. Curious if you can adjust the bed from left to right to level the bed if parked on the crown of a road or some uneven surface?
Really good video. Terrific working through the options and then modifying it. I used to look at that extruded aluminum stuff and shake my head at how much it costs and then I make it out of wood, (Once I even welded). $3000? And then all that work? The work can be fun. I think if I needed this (and it's a really smart solution- it's essentially simple (nothing to bind ) with the widest range (height) of solutions). If I needed this I think I'd just go with ropes and pulleys and a way to tie it off (stabilize it at the sides) against movement. But then I'm a sailor (and former physics teacher) so I like pulleys and things that move (rock me to sleep).
I'd always get a Waterproof bed cover. Even at home. They're just like normal stuff, soft cotton, but they won't let any spills (or blown in rain) get into the mattress. Also a reason for venting on the bottom of a mattress is over time body perspiration can collect in a mattress work its way to the impermeable surface at the bottom and begin growing mold. Just seems obvious to make the top of the mattress (which can't be run through the laundry) waterproof.
i totally don't understand the reason behind a waterproof bed cover? your roof is not leaking and during the day it's up, so how can you spill something on your bed? And of course, I hope your cover is breathable, otherwise, your moisture accumulates at the top instead of the bottom!
Well done Steven ….I like it….greetings from down under Australia
This man is an amazing engineer
Well...he has deep pockets🤣
You are one super talented guy 😊
Awesome job.
For getting up on the bed when in the book position, did you ever think about a drawer, with feet that ride 1/4" from the floor, with an inset lid. You could pull up the lid and the drawer is still a drawer for storage, otherwise its a step. Interested to see if you ever tried or thought of this.
Nicely Done!
Thanks - looking for bed designs - getting ready to do a small conversion in our van.
Outstanding ! I have no idea why more van builders do not use this bed.
$$$$
Maybe put some fold down steps mounted to the 8020 at the corner of the bathroom, to get into the bed when it's in mid position.
Very nice! Thanks for the video 🙂
Nice bed, finally know what you were working on over there neighbor.
Well done nice change to the bed frame.How are you changing the water filters without a mess?
Nice work!
Long time watcher, first time commenter. I was on the fence about doing my own build before watching these videos, but now I'm certain I'm paying someone else to do it. I think it was the floor nightmare that broke my spirit - and I wasn't even there. Bravo.
Yes it is a lot of work :)
Farm out what you can't, do what you can... Sometimes just paying a boomer to come show you how it the way to go.. Go to Home Depot talk to one if the dudes, or go to their Sunday free work shops and ask that guy how to find someone..
That way your not paying FULL ON 4x RETAIL for something that can be done for a nickel
Thanks for the video. We have a full size EuroLoft to install into our ext Promaster but have no instructions for it. Can you outline the steps you took to install the first iteration of the van?
Hola te felicito por el trabajo excelente que has realizado, GRACIAS GRACIAS
I like the panel bed.
Its a great video, really nicely presented. I've got just two questions: 1. Why that extra length on one side (creating a bump where you climb into the bed) - could you make it flush and fit an extra shelf unit or something thin? 2. Why won't it go higher - is it a lack of webbing strap, or the narrowing width of the van? Thankx.
If you look carefully you can see that the width is smaller due to the inward curvature of the wall (which is less on a promaster)
First, a safety warning. Make this fused, have a secondary cut out, and a safety cut out at the roof for if people are in the bed. Say a wooden bar across the top at the roof, with a switch on either end. Bed at full up doesn't hit it so no cut out, if there's a person in the bed they hit the bar and at least one of the switches disconnects. In fact make it 2 or 3 bars, or a large rectangular panel with 4 or more switches. You don't want this going up in the middle of the night and crushing you to asphyxiation before you can find the off switch. Winch type systems are extremely strong, you want a lot of extra safety when people are around them, it doesn't take that much force to make it where you can't breathe.
Someone else may have already mentioned similar, haven't read through all the comments yet.
Think I'll put the rest in another comment..
That's like my garage door. If you touch it it turns off. That's a safety design. I am really glad you mentioned this because I had not thought of it while I was watching.
The bed platform hit the side tapered side walls which is why it can't go higher than the top position shown. That still allow plenty of space for a human so I don't see how the wooden bar is necessary.
Why not put safety lock on the belts so it raises all the way up?
Such a cool build. I love that aluminum system you use. So sweet!
You are amazing!!
Nice job man!! How do you stop the bed from swinging when you're driving?
Impressive work on the alluminium extrusions framing . Definitely my way to go. Thanks for the demonstration, I was afraid I'd have to solder. What is the total wight of the alluminum ?
Thanks, I didn’t weigh it but just the aluminum frame was around ~50lbs
@@seven_o_savage the best choice of bed is both variant together 👍
It looks like "Item" extruded aluminum. Item brand is pretty heavy, but strong and versatile. It is used alot in industry to build supports and surrounds. It is pricey, only reason I even know about it is that a found a trove of it at a surplus store years ago.
You have a panel falling off your roof! Also I got my Bronco last week so we should go offroading soon!
Awesome stuff! May I ask what software are you using to mock up your wiring diagrams?
I am dying for a 4x4 sprinter. I would hands down prefer this guy to build my van
Hi there! Thanks for the video! You mentioned sharing which mattress you would use. I may have missed it but if not, could you please share any helpful info on that?
nicely done - thanks for the ideas and info.
what keeps the bed and frame from flopping around when the van is in motion?
Quick question, is there a slit in one the van mounting plates for the webbing and then compression fit with the other bracket? Is it possible to snap a photo of the make and model of the right-angle motor assembly they use? Thanks again for the videos! Wow, and you also let the webbing just slide over the 80/20 frame with no pulley/bearing surface. Very cool.
I would also like to buy all the components without the expensive bed section. I'm even thinking about just making a hand crank system.
Very beautiful job.
Do you have plate informations on your Motor/gearbox please?
Really neat ! :) But 2700$ for a wiper motor and some feet of seatbelts ! !!! 😳
This is similar to my idea, but making a track on each side, and manually put the bed in place
Love it!
Great job, respect. Could you provide the exact details of the worm gear and the engine and a link to where you bought it?
Welcome back. Where have you been for the last 4 weeks?
I suspected that you quit van building because the new job!
Nooooo never gonna quit but def having to prioritize work right now until I get things running. Thanks for waiting haha
@5:30 hahaha 😅
But as I learnt from my career in software development, bug discovery time is inversely correlated with complexity :D
Wondering if I should go with Lagun swivel like yours for the table up front or one leg pedestal. Flexibility vs stability.
hey, nice video ! do you have an idea of the weight of the bed structure ? cheers !
Thanks to show this solution of bed lift system, can you tell me why (the reasons) you believe that system is better the HappiJac ?
Seems to me there should be some sort of safety rails on both sides that lock the bed in place like a car lift has.
Grrreat. What about the mechanism?
It would have been a good idea to show us more on how the actual system works. Maybe to recreate it diy style. 😮💨
Can I order up some of those biscuits! 🤣
You did awesome as always. But $1999 for the bed lift of which you scrapped the entire frame must hurt. I wish someone made a bed lift kit of the motor, the bar, the clamps, and the seat belt webbing for 1/4 of the that price; then I would be interested.
There is a video out there in GERMAN, can't remember the word for BedLift in german, but the guy DIY's darn near all the mechanicals or bys off the shelf stuff...Even in german you can figure out what he's doing.. I figured I could do it for about $900.. a manual awning system would do the same thing, and power it with a cordless drill.. Look into aluminum track beams to replace a bit of the 8020..
You can buy a Happijac for $1k
@@clintroberts1 Where? Cheapest I've seen is $1900 + $350 for shipping.
You heard of the stand up desk? It has a motor plenty powerful to lift the bed. Rich Rebuilds did it on his Sprinter van build. I think that stand desk is like $600 or less. Maybe this helped you. ✌️
@@lukuscarter3563 I was thinking about something similar lol, why not just use two standing desk racks, they are cheap and stable
Thanks for showing your videos. may you let me know where did you find the wide ( near 3" W) vertical C shape extrusion of the bed? you used two of those left and right to handle no shake of the bed. time 7:21 of this movie infront of the red and blue water hoses. Thanks.
Thank Seven👍🏼
I knew this was coming… I’m literally going for the same-ish build. I’ll have to get you a beer if I run into you in Tahoe!
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Bro, I got a hard “no!” from Lippert when I tried to piece this bed system together. How did you manage this?
i have rock&roll bed (volkswagen westfalia) and this type its very good :)
Can you make another video on here or on your Instagram to show how high the bed gets to from all angle etc? I’ll like to see what it looks like when it’s really high from the mounts angle so to see how it looks etc.
Also is the bed height determined by the lent heat of the tracks?
Put the mountain bikes on a rack in the back with a cover!
How much voltage does this thing use? Maybe I'm overlooking it but just wanna make sure my solar system can handle it. Sweet build!
Hey! Loved this video and the aluminum system you used. Can you tell me what software program you used for your wiring diagrams?
I just used figma which is a regular graphic design tool and is actually quite time consuming to make wiring diagrams with 😂