Driving a 200,000 Mile P2 Volvo XC90 2.5T, it's SLOW!
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- čas přidán 20. 07. 2024
- I didn't expect the 2.5T in these XC90's to be this slow LOL! They're charming and practical SUV's, they have that!
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i grew up with a 2004 XC90-my parents still use it 18 years later! lots of good memories in that car, all of them brought back by its sounds and smells. great vid Bern :) ~noor!
Nice. I learned to drive in the 2.5T my parents bought new in 2003. They kept it for 15 years. Nothing wrong with it when it was sold, it was just super tired.
You found me! Ha 😆
@@BernonCars hehehe :D
He is not ment to be fast. First of all its a petrol which = low torque, 2.5T is a low pressure smaller turbo compared to T5 aka 2.3 Big turbo high pressure. Also the engine is insanely powerful BUT since it was not ment to be a racecar it has a "normal" not a sporty transmission and this is why it is not "fast" + it weights a lot. Those cars are cruisers. Sry for bad english
I have an 06 2.5t awd. It does not accelerate like that. There's something wrong with your turbo. It sounds like there's no boost. Turbo boost with about a second delay and great in the city, but scary on highway especially after 70mph.
I agree. something wrong with that xc90. Ive owned the 2.5t for over 10 years with over 480,000kms, and it accelerated much quicker than that.
I might be saying nonsense, especially cause I don't know xc90s or the 2.5t, but I thought the engine was sounding a bit strange, almost like it was misfiring a bit. Dunno, just didn't sound very healthy. After being in contact with various cars throughout the years you just get a feel for it. But since I wasn't there, could all be nonsense on my side. 😂
My 2.5T now has 560000 miles and runs so nice and smooth.
Trooper!!!
Mine just hit 200k would you want to come maintain mine for me? 😊 I'd love to reach that mileage!
What year? And how has the transmission gone?
@@malcolmyoungacdc 2005. No problems at all. I change the fluid every 12 months.
@@rogercamp2910 fantastic and well done! Thanks for replying.
I have a 2005 XC90 2.5T, without the third row, AWD. Just hit 300K km (~188K mi), and just replaced the factory turbo (bearings were shot). Also recently replaced the stock exhaust with a Magnaflow stainless from front to back (my mechanic said the open exhaust pathway would allow the engine to generate an extra 20-30HP).
Just replaced the upper cam sensor, reset the adaptation, and now it's motoring like a son-of-a-gun. Similar pickup and boost to the 2011 V8 Executive you tested in another video. Hi-test gas and a thorough cleaning of the intakes does make a difference.
This 2.5 sounds like my car did before the turbo replacement. Definitely a lack of boost, as it shouldn't take that long to shift up. As others have said, something doesn't sound right.
Love my Volvo, and appreciat your excellent videos!
Sweden is proud of you, knowing all this about Volvos 👌
As a matter of fact, today I had a look and test drive of a 34kKM 2004 2.5T that I may, or may not buy as a winter car.
Sweet mother mercy it is slow... wow. It's among the slowest cars I have driven!
If I buy it, I'll give it a stage 1 ECU tune which should give it 45-50hp more.
//A Swede
Never knew much about Volvos, I usually nerd out about hondas myself. Its so refreshing to see a nice detailed "geeked out" review of Volvo. Always a great review Bern
Haha I always love nerding out so it’s even better to do it in front of an audience! 😂
Fuck Honda!
Hey man, love your videos. I am thinking about buying a used XC90 for my daughter's first car. Your videos have been so helpful because there are very few American videos on the XC90 and yes, I am an American named Anders (I was born 16 minutes from the Torslanda factory). Great work man!
Thank you sir! I appreciate that! I love these things so I’m more than happy to film as many as I can 😂
I have a 2006 XC90 2.5T and it’s bullet proof. I will say that not all XC90’s had a third row though, which is surprising! My 06 is one of the rarely configured XC90’s that did not have the versatility package that included the third row seat. Instead, it has two compartments with under floor storage and grocery bag holder. In the later years, the third row eventually came standard. I also have a 2014 3.2 Platinum and I do love that one also. I will say that the 2.5T you are driving seems to be slower shifting than the one I have. I felt my 2.5T was reasonably responsive, but not super fast. I will add that mine only has 156k miles and is dealer maintained and had a software update, so that may make a difference.
I was surprised to find out they didn’t all come with three rows!
I’ve driven a few 3.2’s. No issues with them either!
@@BernonCars mine doesn’t have a third row either. It’s a 2007.
I have a video of my acceleration
Mine's 04 and it's 5 seater 😊
Noice review mate! Not sure what has happened, but my 04 XC90 2.5T definitely sounds more responsive and quicker than yours. However that being said, it only has 230k km on it (not sure what it is in miles on the top of my head).
On the other hand, mine had engine mounts issues which sounded good actually (like a grunting rumble) similar to what yours had when you floored it after driving off the first time. The sound was totally removed when I installed the side mount + top mount + bottom torgue mount.
Thank you! Something definitely felt wrong with this one lol.
I have a 2004 Volvo XC90 T6 with the much berated 465te Transmission, I love my T6 but it's kind of like a BMW you have to sort out all of the known issues and once that's done it will drive like a dream. I had the 465te transmission rebuilt and I found a great volvo specialist in my area who took out the entire engine and meticulously addressed all of the known issues with the engine. I still drive the car like an adult should the reason I gravitated to this model is the build quality it's a heavy sturdy and incredibly safe vehicle that I use to transport my son and wife in. I feel incredibly safe in this vehicle and it's whisper quiet and is incredibly quick the T6 engine is a 2.9 liter inline six paired with twin turbos, I also own a 2005 infiniti q45 which has a 340 hp v8 and the T6 engine feels more at home at 80 mph than my Infiniti which is no joke itself. I purchased the car at 130K miles and it's currently at 174K miles the only negative is this car chews through tires incredibly quickly so keep an eye on tread wear.
That’s the downside of the 2.9 T it had a horrible slushMatic. Had it been given a proper reliable automatic transmission it would’ve kept going much longer both in mileage and production quantity.
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Thank you!!
Here's my take on this, and I work in a Volvo specialist shop. I've worked on many XC90's, and many with the 2.5T. Many are ridiculously down on power, some more so than others, one was a plugged catalytic converter, none of the owners seem to care. I myself own a 2006 2.5T, and it blows the doors off my bosses 07 V8 XC90 sport from a stop...he has borrowed mine, and now notices that every one we work on is down on power. I bought it for 1800 bucks, and I haven't done much, except fix the Haldex AWD and angle gear and changed out a dented door.
Yeah all of these are completely dogged! Haha
That's a helluva deal for an XC90!
@@BernonCars It was a crazy deal, customer wanted to scrap it, all it needed was a door and the angle gear splines were stripped out. It's also a 5 passenger with factory DVD.
Interesting, I know my fuel pump intermittently acts up but never stops working. That's the only time it feels down on power. I need to fix it but it's a crappy job.
Your 2.5T XC90 is Faster than your bosses V8 xc90?
How is that possible?
What did you do to your 2.5T?
Which upgrades?
@@MB1Billion I said, from a stop it blows the doors off his, after a few seconds his v8 is passing me. As far as I know, mine is completely stock, bought it used for 1800 bucks 4 years ago. Only "upgrades" are nothing. I've welded the exhaust together, changed the brakes, and changed the steering wheel, I also drove two low km 2.5T xc90's last week that both drive the same.
Excellent video Bern!
Thank you!!
By the sound of the engine, it seems as if it was not maintained properly. Needs a throttle body cleaning and a fresh gallon of oil.
I also think that the petrol used is low octane.
But that 2.5L howl is somehow addictive (imo).
I actually had the Volvo XC90 3.2L inline 6 AWD - honestly regret getting rid of it but on the hunt to get another one back OR a V8 model if any left where i live - within budget.
I dont have anything to compare personnally yet - but i owened a 2013 S60 T5 for a bit, that was great. But to me, in all the SUV's ive tried - for the city and canadian winters - the 3.2 XC90 was great - NEVER got stuck and if gas was cheap id drive around just because i can
I bought my 2006 XC90 2.4L a couple of years ago and I LOVE it. I would never buy anything new ish because if all the shitty tech and how cheap and samey they all feel.
Luckily, there was corrosion on the exhaust so I put a straight pipe with twin tailpipe underneath and the sound is unbelievable when it accelerates.
Looks like the car in this vid is very slow, probably some issues under the bonnet 😅 My 2.4 moves a lot quicker than that.
Great vid, like your channel. Renovating a caravan atm and will be towing it with the XC90, can't wait!
This one was definitely injured in some way LOL. Thank you for tuning in!
There is definitely something wrong.. sounds really slow indeed, like it is driving in limp-mode… normally the 2.5t is not like a racecar, but still had a decent acceleration.. like 0-60 in 9.5sec
That’s not any kind of limp mode I have the s60 with that engine and it’s pretty quick 7ish 0-100 but this on is 10ish which makes sense as it’s a huge suv so it doesn’t wanna kick down because it would be too tough on the engine.
You should definitely test drive a 3.2l in-line 6 XC90. I have one and can say it is decently powerful and they sound great.
Yeah! I’ve driven one before but I’m waiting for one to pop up at work to review!
No doubt these are not fast cars, especially with the 2.5T. But I'll say the 2.5T is an excellent engine, easily one of Volvo's most reliable. I have an 2006 XC90 2.5T with 245,000 miles and it seems more responsive than the one you drove. There could be a number of problems with the one you drove, especially if it was neglected. Also, the transmission adaptations likely need to be reset if you want to drive it like a sports car (or at least give it time to learn your driving style so it can adjust shifts accordingly). It's also really is about how you drive the car and your mindset (what you expect). In daily driving you don't need to floor it around every corner. So for us, the 2.5T is perfectly suited.
I agree about the T6 engines on the XC90s with the GM transmissions. Too much power and too heavy a vehicle for such a small transmission. However, it's a much safer bet in a lighter car. I have the same T6 engine and GM transmission in my 2000 S80. It's got 270,00 miles (family owned since new) and the transmission has never had an issue (knock on wood).
Good point. This one definitely did seem down on power compared to XC70’s I’ve driven too.
Ahh I’d love to spend time with one of those old S80’s!
mine xc90 MY06 with 2.5t does 0-100 km/h in 10,5 sec, even few times in a row the same 10,5, for me it is very reliable engine and responsiveness is great as for 2100 kg car. gearbox from aisin is just ok... clue of this engine is to service PCV system or you will get blowed up oil leak from every side of engine... your car looks like turtle or snail a bit. maybe something is wrong with turbo presure pipes or even with turbo itself hmm... i love this car
I updated my acceleration
Just bought a 2004 Volvo XC90 2.5T and I will say that it’s in no stretch of the imagination fast. However I find myself surprised when I accelerate to the speed of traffic. My particular car seems to have quite a bit of top end torque, so once you get past 15 or so, it takes right off no issue.
Something must’ve been up with the one you drove. I also find that premium fuel does wonders for the turbo.
Interesting! Something was definitely wrong with this one LOL
Haha you love your Xc90s dude!!
It does seem to be down on power or has a fault 🤔 they are a variation of the old T5 motor and a variation again of what is fitted in the Mk2 focus ST!! 👍
I do!! I’ve gotta drive a T6 now lol. Yeah something had to be wrong with this one LOL. I expected more!
Nice video title, clicked on it immediately, because I love your genuine honest opinion, but it's going to tick off a lot of Volvo loyalists. My buddy has an 06, nice condition, low mileage, and it doesn't feel fast at all
Haha I knew it would LOL. Even in good shape these are slow hahaha
Could also have a freewheeling stator in the torque converter,
My 2.5T is surprisingly peppy. I kind of wonder if a previous owner had a tune installed
It’s possible!
Mine is too! I’ve halfway convinced myself that I might have a T6 but I’m pretty sure mine is a 2.5T
Not to say that the 2005-2008ish are “fast” by any means, however I think there is a lot more power in most vehicles besides the one in the video. I have an 05’ 2.5T I5 with 160K miles that has plenty of torque coming off a stop. Probably wasn’t a great idea but recently raced a 2024 Chevy Trax and won by almost a cars length from a stop…
Great video Mr. volvo
Thank you!
You trade fun for reliability and crash safety with this
I always try to have two cars that compliment each other so I can have one boring and useful car (usually end up with 3-4 for a while)
Same here LOL I have 4 in my fleet currently haha
Im buying one tomOrrow.what I should check?
Great video. I have two 3.2’s and yea they scream like a non vtec b18. I will be picking up a V8 next week. This is going to be fun. 😈
Enjoy!!
Unfortunately it was a hot piece of garbage. Bought it for parts and scrap. Smdh didn’t even get to give it the beans 🫘
the cracking on the dash i've found was a problem on my pre-facelift xc90 d5 but not on my current 2007 2.5t maybe they used different plastics?
Interesting, yeah my 2010 didn’t rattle like that either
Bulletproof engine. Strong enough for regular driving, and the XC90 is hardly a sports car anyway (the weight and steering is proof enough). Our car has the 2.5T engine mated to a six speed *manual* transmission. With 130 000 miles (210 000 km), it pulls great. The manual shifting is actually very nice as well (far better than our Mustang, Thunderbird and Peugeot 205 but not as good as the 1st gen Ford Puma). Had the same engine in a Ford S-Max before, and was surprised by how well the XC90 matches up.
They’re so great!
The Volvo XC90 V8 is pretty quick. My parents had a 2006 Volvo XC90 V8, it did 0-60 in 7 seconds which isn't bad for an SUV it's size and it's age. The top speed is appearntly 250 km/h. (155mph).
Yup my V8 was great on the Highway especially!
It's actually the sound deadening that gives the car that distinctive smell.
Interesting!
The ones without 3rd row had weaker suspension put in the back of them
@4:38 you can even leave it down and close the hatch if you're hauling something long. It wont latch, but if need be haha.
I would do that all the time! Hahaha
I also have to agree with you, I'm spoiled with my V8 but I started out with a 3.2. It was ok, just. But that thing is slowwww
in the uk we got the 163hp d5
You gotta drive hard for like three day maybe a week the transmission goes into sport mode or something my 01 2.4t v70 does that
It’s not that slow. It’s still got a ton of low end torque and that low-pressure turbo 5 cylinder is actually pretty damn quick itself. Still feels faster than a lot of turbo 4 cylinder crossovers on the market today! Plus, if Volvo offered the XC90 in the T5 (high-pressure turbo 5 cylinder) model or even the astounding R motor, this thing would be much, much faster!
This one definitely wasn't healthy! LOL
Seems like something is up with the engine. Imagine the 200k miles have worn out some of those horses.
Has to be!
Those miles don’t affect the horsepower.. by the looks of the car, i think it has to do with poor maintenance
Then again, 290k miles hasn’t stopped my old 2012 Camry V6 to doing a 6 second flat 0-60
This is a great channel eh
Ahhh thank you haha
If you think that one is slow you should try the 2.5 Diesel 163bhp... I know it was not sold in north america but it's really common in europe.
I’d love to try a diesel XC!
@@BernonCars Trust me, it would be terribly underwelming. Good low down torque but painfull acceleration.
I'm trying to replicate your build (lift kit+fat wheels and tires) but I'm just waiting for the right one. I want a manual but they're rarer than hen's teeth. Tried one yesterday (diesel+manual) and almost bit the bullet but interiors were too knackered for a daily.
What are the alternatives to Volvo xc90 model up to 2014 year? Those car getting old and newest version are not so... Interesting
I would still recommend an older XC90 than any new vehicle.
thanks from sweden 🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪 cool you like volvos
Thank you!!
That motor has enough torque to go faster than that. Something is wrong with that motor. Either the turbo isn't engaging right, possibly the bypass is stuck open. Or you need plugs and coils. It would probably do much better with some good oil in it and some premium gas. Change the air filter and maybe if you know how to take the TCM off of it and check it to see if it works. They usually fail around 100,000 miles and nobody ever replaces them.
There’s obviously something wrong with the engine, I mean it isn’t fast by any means but I have one and it’s stock and it isn’t that slow!
Sounds like the turbo's gone. I had a 2.5T and it was a ROCKET!
With fuel at $5+/gallon, I'm good with slow. Slow & safe always works.
I am really split between XC90 2.5 T and Volvo XC70 both 2007
What can you recomend?
Oh also they are both benzine powered.
They are both great, it ultimately depends if you need the extra space in the trunk or not. Besides that they’re pretty similar.
@@BernonCars I just got the 2007 XC70 2.5 T
I absolutely love it.
Thank you so much for your previews.
Keep up the good work! :)
Bern I never heard a black guy talk like you. I commend you for speaking properly. Subbed
Thank you!
Properly?! Wonder how that was decided upon.
@@ianjohnson1328 easy, comparison.
@@sergioromero9932 truancy is a bastard
How do you feel about 2007 xc 90 V6? Should I walk away from it or risk it. 173k
The 3.2 is alright!
That’s an inline 6 not a v6 and i love noisy engines so the 3.2 is a good choice. V8 sounds a little better though.
Are there any power upgrades you can do to get more Horsepower?
There are some tunes available for them. Also a few bolt on mods
@@BernonCars Thank you. Where can I get the Tunes?
Or should I just buy the V8 model instead???
Which one would you choose and why?
@@MB1Billion I prefer the V8. MPG’s are a little less but the smoothness and refinement makes up for it
@@BernonCars That's what I was afraid of Lol. I have the 2.5T XC90 but they are Selling a V8 xc90 near where I Live. Do they both have the same Axels? and just the Transmission is Different?
I want more Horsepower but then I have to get the 2.5T Engine Sleeved, Built , and Tuned or I can just buy the V8 model and save myself a Lot of money.
Lol I sense there is no spool,my xc has an R turbo and upgraded fuel pump with injectors and it broke all my motor mounts has so much torque,heck even with the Chinese turbo it would haul butttt
Definitely something wrong with this one haha
Sounds like it needs a tune up
Ah yes, that wonderful five banger with a massive turbo lag. LOL!
I love these Audi-evolved, Porsche tuned, White block legendary engines but could probably use a bigger turbo for the bigass XC90’s.
Hahah yes! Yeah a liitle more power would do it well!
@@BernonCars 220-238 horsepower 2.5T would have been a better fit. The 3.2 makes 236-240 hp which is much much better for almost 5000 pounds.
can u do an xc70
Hopefully we get one in soon!
Whats is 5000 lbs in kg or tons
2200kg!
D5 ftw :)
Seems really slow looking at the video. Mine flies and everyone who's driven my car was pleasantly surprised how responsive and fast it moves
Yeah this one was definitely not taken care of!!
Comparing with 2.4 diesel is fu×××ng fast , much faster than it.
I'd love to drive the diesel!
ton volvo a definitivement un.probleme je possede le meme et il a bcps plus de repondant que lw.tien je fait 0-100kmh en 8.9 seconde pour un vehicule.stock aussi.lourd
There's something wrong with your Volvo. I have a 2006 with the 5cyl. And can hit 60mph with a 3k lbs travel trailer by the 3nd of a typical freeway on ramp in Seattle.
Also the engine does not sound right. Possibly your turbo is done.
Come to Australia - you can try my D5 (Diesel) XC90 :)
I would love to!
Why is everyone calling this engine bulletproof the seals and gaskets leaks so easily on this car and it costs more to repair than the car is even worth! This is after fixing all of the coolant leaks and constantly replacing spark plugs and coil packs every 40,000 miles. These cars are ANNOYING. also they don't run well on regular gas very slow. Any car that you have to put premium in sucks
I've personally not had any isses with a 2.5!
Must be a serious issue with the one you drove. Mine is much quicker than that!
Warum gibt es in den Staaten kaum bis keine XC90 mit dem D5 Motor?
Und was die dritte Sitzreihe angeht, muss ich widersprechen 😁 Mein XC90 Executive D5 hat serienmäßig nur fünf Sitzplätze und die dritte Sitzreihe existiert nicht 😉
Interesting! Unfortunately, Volvo never sold the XC90 with the D5 in the US!
@@BernonCars Danke für die Info 😉
Bern will a 2.5 T easily pull 5 tons
I don't think so! It's only rated for about 2.5 tons!
Miss Thor bro
Sometimes me too!
it kinda sounds like something is wrong with that engine lol
The early 2.5t and later 3.2 are the ones to get. Fuck the T6 and V8
I’ll keep my V8
@@BernonCarsV8’s are cool. It’s too bad they stopped using 6 and 8 cylinder engines.
NOT 2007. 2006
Weights a lot...
Sure it’s heavy, but not *that* heavy
@@BernonCarsexactly - engine is too small
Hahahah so is the 3.2.
Yeahhh it is! LOL
Ehhhh. I mean it’s better. Slow compared to modern day sports cars and high performance SUVs but not that bad. The 3.2l can keep up with some of the older explorers with the 3.7 and 3.5 naturally aspirated v6’s.
@@charlesrodriguez7984 I’ve had the 3.2 for 125,000 miles. I kind of need to point it where it needs to go like a ship and it eventually gets there.
Slow!!!
Very very slow!