Warhammer The Old World Battle Report - Dwarfs vs Wood Elves
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- čas přidán 23. 03. 2024
- Game TWO from our journey back into the OLD WORLD of Warhammer Fantasy.
This video was streamed live last night, but after identifying some audio issues I have fixed them and re-uploaded it.
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Some tips for Wood Elves:
- You can outrange a lot of Dwarf shooting with your bows.
- Some of your stuff also has Evasive, allowing you to run back from enemy shooting.
- Deploying in Skirmish for -1 to hit.
- Take Lore Familiar to get the block line of sight spell that you need.
- Use Lore of Athel Loren for trees.
- Consider redundancy of key units, like Sisters, Wild Riders, and Dancers.
- Wardancer Hero can take Illusion. Take the signature spell for another -1 to hit on the Dancers.
- Sisters of Thorn can choose their spell. Choose Plague of Rust vs. Dwarfs.
- Consider flanking Glade Riders They can cross the table in one turn, and shoot. Take True Flight.
- Warhawk Riders and Great Eagles to tie up shooting units.
Nice sculpting on that dwarf tuchus :)
Love these - top work!
There will be a lot more to follow.
I am so pleased to see you guys back
Rem has a serious case of Old World Fever, and the only cure is more battle reports.
Sound balance now spot on 😄
Wow thank you for fixing the sound!
I can't accept substandard content on this channel. Only the finest.
@@Andy2D6 and what fine content it is sirrah, now that I'm able to hear you both!
Please take care.
Sisters of Thorn get to pick their spell not roll for it.
Bugger! Noted for next time
This makes them really good, as the clear choice vs. Dwarfs is Plague of Rust.
Can confirm Orgun Gun not OP, arguably might not even be good for its points
My dead elves would dispute this
A stiff breeze is deadly to elves.
It is rather expensive. It has to jump through more hoops than most things in the game to actually kill anything. Artillery dice AND hit rolls.
Yeah most dwarf players are going 2x bolt throwers and iron drakes these days. Cannons were nerfed so badly that empire cannons are actually better. (+2s, +1 pen, +1 wound, 12 inch more range for 25 point difference). Not even the most expensive artillery ruins can touch that stat line for a cannon.
Gotta love Runes, though.
Good fun and nice calm presentation!
A note tho you should write dow combat turn results better and present them correct when you do the turn presentation
Good tips and aftercombat discussion and love you usr old world. Looking forward to more battles 😊
Plenty more battles to come. I've never made notes for battle reports, but this game might be complicated enough to warrant it.
Another smash hit batrep
Some might say the finest Old World content on the market.
Great work on the battle report! Unfortunately though, Dwarf Cannons are D3 wounds, not D3+1. They're back to their 6/7th edition damage!
Ah yes. I was looking at the GREAT Cannon profile, which does have D3+1.
Giant Eagles for warmachine hunting
I don’t think the eagle would win against his anvil guard and engineer… but might hold them up for a round! I’ll take one next game and try it
@@RemingtonSteelewarhammer yep, even as a speed bump they have value…giving those wardancers some time. Or depending how the charge(as skirmishes?) maybe have him slowdown the gyro and that template.
The chemistry between you two has made these the channel for me for ToW battle reports.
You guys need to get Reef involved. Has anyone been in touch with him?
We've had confirmation that Reefy is alive and well, but no word on whether he intends to dabble in The Old World yet.
Message from Reef. Hey buddy, yeah, I'm still alive! Still breeding birds and playing 'counter and hex'. I do play Warcry on occasion (the stand out GW game for enjoyment without power creep).
How about you mate?
@@RemingtonSteelewarhammer Ask him if he has seen Burrow play in person.
Does the WE forest need to go in their deployment zone? If not, maybe place it further up to field to layer the cover…especially for the units that can move through it without any movement penalty.
Or, depending on how high the forest is supposed to be…place it so that the war machines don’t have so many targets.
Had the HQ forest not been built like impassable terrain, that would have been a more obvious choice.
Sorry Andy, this victory has an asterisk. :)
I won't be keeping track of the win/loss rates while we're still learning, don't worry. The terrain will definitely be improved next time.
Yes true! I was cheated! … again lol
Really nice bat rep!
Enjoyed the battle, the well painted armies and old models and the format - thanks. Really like hearing what both players were trying to do. Also enjoyed the analysis at the end though it felt like the Wood Elf player's gripes about the artillery are not quite right as the anvil and maybe the infantry shooting seemed to do more than the machines (cannon took a couple of wounds off a treeman that survived the battle and was then killed, organ gun partially misfired at least once and also spent a dwarf turn in combat). Obviously the Gyrocopter also made a big contribution but then ignoring it for two turns while it steams your T3 troops probably isn't the best thing to do. Dwarfs won the combat in the centre of the table and could have won it more decisively if the overrun attacks from the Hammerers had gone ahead as they should have. Seemed to have their positioning better thought out than the elves. Not sure why the Dwarf player sacrificed the Slayer by having him out in front though, would be interested to know what the thinking there was as I was surprised he didn't get shot even before he was inevitably slaughtered in combat on his own.
Overall it was nice to see a fairly traditional looking Dwarf list do well even if the Wood Elf player will definitely have better days down the line!
Not a lot of thought going into the lonely Slayer's antics. He's mainly in there for the comedy value of his enhanced butt cheeks. I don't think he makes it into a tournament list at the moment.
@@Andy2D6To be honest I wasn't looking to criticise, just trying to get some ideas for myself as to how to include Slayers and get some use out of them. Normal size units don't look like they'll do too well so thinking single characters or very small units, would like to see someone make them work though! I thought if he had been slightly further back he probably could have got successfully involved in the combats in the centre of the field in this battle though obviously it played out well for the Dwarfs anyway and maybe his sacrifice helped that, not sure. As you say he made a worthwhile contribution by showing us his arse in any case.
One other thing I wondered was whether the Gyro could have fled rather than getting killed in combat at the end? Not sure how he got into combat to be honest, but would have liked him to survive to sink a few pints after steaming all those elves.
I think one of the units charging the Gyro had Swiftstride, maybe. Or I felt that multiple units trying to chase him would result in a successful charge, and death. I'm looking at the different weapon options to keep it safer, although I do enjoy templates.
@@Andy2D6 Yeah I can imagine he might not have had much option. Can see that the different gun options all have their pros and cons, erring towards sticking with the traditional one though and this battle did nothing to change that!
fair points all round!
That terrain is awful. Not acceptable at an event.. not acceptable at HQ.
Definitely not up to standard.
REM, did you also forget the freeman’s regen…or was that just a fail?
Anvil is in no way overpowered sadly. Not only does it dispel worse than any other level 4 wizard (just why?), it is also stationary, meaning in a world where everyone can measure at any time, neither will you use your offensive spells efficiently (if your opponent takes a bit care), it will also not be able to apply its spells where needed sometimes. Also an enemy wizard can just chill outside of dispel range and cast away happily, even when deployed very aggressively (wich you do not always want your anvil to do). Then there is the huge pointscost (more then any level 4 wizard in the game). I would personally take an allied empire wizard with carpet over an anvil any game.
I agree it is not overpowered, but I still think it's a good choice... for now. We'll see how it lands after I've played a lot more games.
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Early in the video, and once again will predict an extension level loss for the Dwarfs.
EDIT: Ooof, maybe not. Arrow of Kurnous? Strategy = go forwards into a gunline?! Dwarfs have a chance at this level of play.
We have another battle report coming up tomorrow, so you'll see if Rem has learnt anything from this one.
@@Andy2D6 - Awesome! Looking forward to it.
And the scuttlebutt seems to be that the Arcane Journal might really help fix Dwarfs when they get it. Maybe then, I'll stop predicting Dwarf defeats every battle report, lol.
I really like that Stunty-cannon and Organ gun. Some of my fav models in that range.. So much character. And the scale feels nice. Not a fan of the later plastics..
Definitely my favourite period of Dwarf miniatures. Early and mid 90s.
The captains bow is S3 not S4.
Not so. Asrai Longbow strength is defined by the strength profile of the shooter (S) so a glade captain has s4 as does his shooting
@@RemingtonSteelewarhammer missed that! Thanks!
Linehammer is real! 👍