This is beautiful but i have a deep dark question about it, why cant we go to "heaven" unless we become what someone who rules *the insides of those gates* wants us to be, even if like you say, we are good, and have glorious lovely good desires of world-change, while simultaneously why build a world where everyone will fail unless they let you take them over. Hope you dont take this as hate, it just seems like the question looming over christianity (im a lifetime man of god)
No this is genuine I can tell! Thanks for this it helps me ponder! In my faith, we believe there are “many mansions” in the Fathers kingdom and therefore a majority of us will make it to at least some degree of a “heaven”. But since God is all Loving he won’t want someone to be miserable forever if they don’t deserve that. However we know that no unclean thing can dwell with God, therefore there will have to be degrees of heaven and we get to choose which degree we abide in based on what laws of heaven we abide by here. The belief that there’s line between heaven and hell, all good people in heaven and all bad people in hell forever, is not a sufficient answer to mortality based on God being our loving father.
@@reedmcrae right, i feel the same about that stuff, different levels of heaven for what suits that person basically, i just feel like -that being the summation- we shouldnt have to try too hard to fit into that place, its like a reward sought is a reward denied imo, its all so convoluted, while of course as far as ive found, the middle way with the self, not polarized, not extreme... Innocent, so that our desires dont expand back into truly sinful ways due to over-righteousness, which ive found to be just as much of a damnation as sin itself, and i think its sin that spawns overrighteousness, when you cleanse the sin with a baptism, the things you become reconnected with, your child-like innocent intentions of how to be close to a girl/woman innocently, we learn extremes to compensate for the sin which blocks, but when its not even sin in my way anymore it seems like still nothing changes, and i feel like that goes to exactly what you were saying in this video, specific ordinances to follow, treat another like it was a drawn part of a story book with golden light around you.. too beautiful, but too impossible also, my cloak too?.. like sickeningly noble, as if we never were meant to reach that state, as if its a prank to just be abused more and accept abuse programs to take them to death like Jesus? I thought he did that for us already
@@reedmcrae like i got all these saboteurs that God just lets ruin my fuckin life, my day, every day, my whole fkn life, its got me thinking God is a piece of shit and just now in my safe spot, the one guy who pisses me off the most, intentionally sabotaging me, he comes around for the first time, he finds my spot away from all them, he posts up and calls me annoying and weird and says my music is annoying and all this bullshit line he does every day the last 11 goddamn months.. and like what cuz i smoke weed? Gimme a fkn break, you think God would really let me go out kamikaze style just because i smoke weed? Why cant he just either zap the bastard, or zap me because im done with this fkn nonsense and evil, it no longer serves any purpose beyond crumpling me up to dust to accept the death that already seems on its way
Interesting thoughts man, gives me lots to think about I agree with being overbearing and over righteous can be an issue…thanks for the thoughts, regardless of anything you’re loved. Sorry for all you’re dealing with. But through that you can know Christ, That’s most important you know. 🤝🏽🙏🏽
That's right. I'm not. And why? Because logic says he wasn't a deity and is most likely dead. And the alternative? Its great! And FYI - if you think there are no consequences living a life as an non-Christian you are clueless. FFS grow up.
Amen
Thank you for your wise words
God bless you
You spoke to me today. Ive been in a bad spot and you definitely were used by God here to get to me. Bless you Sir, praise be to God 🙏
Amen brother, I needed this. God bless you!
Thankyou mate words I needed to hear today
This is beautiful but i have a deep dark question about it, why cant we go to "heaven" unless we become what someone who rules *the insides of those gates* wants us to be, even if like you say, we are good, and have glorious lovely good desires of world-change, while simultaneously why build a world where everyone will fail unless they let you take them over. Hope you dont take this as hate, it just seems like the question looming over christianity (im a lifetime man of god)
No this is genuine I can tell! Thanks for this it helps me ponder! In my faith, we believe there are “many mansions” in the Fathers kingdom and therefore a majority of us will make it to at least some degree of a “heaven”. But since God is all Loving he won’t want someone to be miserable forever if they don’t deserve that. However we know that no unclean thing can dwell with God, therefore there will have to be degrees of heaven and we get to choose which degree we abide in based on what laws of heaven we abide by here. The belief that there’s line between heaven and hell, all good people in heaven and all bad people in hell forever, is not a sufficient answer to mortality based on God being our loving father.
@@reedmcrae right, i feel the same about that stuff, different levels of heaven for what suits that person basically, i just feel like -that being the summation- we shouldnt have to try too hard to fit into that place, its like a reward sought is a reward denied imo, its all so convoluted, while of course as far as ive found, the middle way with the self, not polarized, not extreme... Innocent, so that our desires dont expand back into truly sinful ways due to over-righteousness, which ive found to be just as much of a damnation as sin itself, and i think its sin that spawns overrighteousness, when you cleanse the sin with a baptism, the things you become reconnected with, your child-like innocent intentions of how to be close to a girl/woman innocently, we learn extremes to compensate for the sin which blocks, but when its not even sin in my way anymore it seems like still nothing changes, and i feel like that goes to exactly what you were saying in this video, specific ordinances to follow, treat another like it was a drawn part of a story book with golden light around you.. too beautiful, but too impossible also, my cloak too?.. like sickeningly noble, as if we never were meant to reach that state, as if its a prank to just be abused more and accept abuse programs to take them to death like Jesus? I thought he did that for us already
@@reedmcrae like i got all these saboteurs that God just lets ruin my fuckin life, my day, every day, my whole fkn life, its got me thinking God is a piece of shit and just now in my safe spot, the one guy who pisses me off the most, intentionally sabotaging me, he comes around for the first time, he finds my spot away from all them, he posts up and calls me annoying and weird and says my music is annoying and all this bullshit line he does every day the last 11 goddamn months.. and like what cuz i smoke weed? Gimme a fkn break, you think God would really let me go out kamikaze style just because i smoke weed? Why cant he just either zap the bastard, or zap me because im done with this fkn nonsense and evil, it no longer serves any purpose beyond crumpling me up to dust to accept the death that already seems on its way
Interesting thoughts man, gives me lots to think about I agree with being overbearing and over righteous can be an issue…thanks for the thoughts, regardless of anything you’re loved. Sorry for all you’re dealing with. But through that you can know Christ, That’s most important you know. 🤝🏽🙏🏽
That's right. I'm not.
And why?
Because logic says he wasn't a deity and is most likely dead.
And the alternative?
Its great! And FYI - if you think there are no consequences living a life as an non-Christian you are clueless.
FFS grow up.