The Polar Express is so funny, cuz like, Santa already had a flying sleigh pulled by frickin magic animals, and then the guy who wrote Jumanji was like "what if trains"... and because Americans don't know what that is it's somehow more fantastical. "A train you CAN RIDE IN????? WITH SNACKS?????"
I like the idea of us adding more and more modes of Christmas transportation until Santa eventually has to establish a maintenance and logistics corps. I wanna see a children's book about the gumdrop track maintenance elves and reindeer Seabees battalion
But the book came with a bell. It came with the silver bell from the sleigh. Santa doesn't ride the train, the children ride the train to get the first gifts of Christmas.
as scary as the passenger train is, the test freight train for this line was 10 hoppers of cement with two tankers of HYDROFLOURIC ACID nestled in. Lets test out the rushed together jank line with 2 giant cans of nightmare juice hooked up to a bunch of enormous hammers!
Oh it gets even better. I found video. Wikipedia and the newspaper article said hydrofluoric, but it was actually anhydrous hydrogen fluoride, which is liquid in the tank but boils into a gas at standard temp and pressure, which then turns into hydrofluoric acid whenever it touches water, such as on your skin, eyes, lungs, etc.
The WTYP handcart: Rocz and Liam are operating the seesaw handles as usual; meanwhile, Alice has bolted an AA gun to the back and elected herself gunner. Liam periodically kicks something off the side to save weight.
As someone with chronic illness I'm already a fan of this episode for liam's intro alone Medicare for all immediately, and if you disagree I will lawndart you into a trailer like rey mysterio on wcw nitro
Chronically ill here too. Lost a friend because he (type 1 diabetic) ran out of insulin in another state, and I was out of the loop.😭 It's not just that we're getting ripped off in the US, people are dying and going bankrupt, too.
As a person who's had my anxiety pills covered by my state's medi-care system since I got off my family's plan, I one hundred percent agree with you. There's no reason health care should cost so much when medi care service is just as good for comparatively very little.
Uniquely horrifying vibes in these rare pre-disaster episodes. We get the normal explanation of how these things work, the shortcomings and flaws inherent in their designs, the ways that these aren't *too* bad as long as you follow the instructions, the startling list of ways that those instructions are not being followed... And then Rocz doesn't say a date. Yet.
It's like Dennis Miller said, in the 1996 Playboy Interview, about the first time he saw Richard Belzer: "Before that, I was a normal, nice comic, sucking up to the audience. Seeing Belzer changed my life. Some lady yelled 'Do Mick Jagger!' and he said "What am I, your fucking comedy pet? Why don't I come down there and fuck you while your husband watches?' She laughed, and her husband laughed even harder. I thought, 'Oh, I get it, they enjoy a little abuse. They spend all week at work getting their asses kissed, and having to kiss ass, and this is the only place they can get some honesty.' It was like bam, the sword from the stone." WTYP is like punk rock, or a forest fire. It cuts through the crap. It clears the palate before the next course of everyday shite. Cheers.
That Amtrak train crash you talk about at 52:45 was not in Oregon, it was in Olympia, Washington. My co-workers were EXTREMELY late for work that day, and sent some dazzling pictures of the train hanging off the bridge. One of our folks was the third automobile back from the actual dangling train cars - she knew a little first aid and had blankets & water, so she did what she could.
i'd like to express my gratitude to alice, liam, roz, gareth, scooter, devon, and Activate Windows for motivating me through grocery shopping, meal prep, cleaning my kitchen AND folding my laundry all on a goddamn weekday. thank you wonderful people for your hard work, actionable threats, highly specific knowledge, & comedy!
25:42 “gotta have one of those indigenous-owned railways” Mexico just needs to follow the Canada model: Privatize their nationalized railway, then help several indigenous groups pay for buying the tracks from the privatized railways that refuse to maintain essential transportation links
Halfway through and I've completely lost track of what actually happened in this story. Thankfully, I've been sufficiently reassured that "we'll get there"
"... And if you are the Mexican Government I am not legally associated with Well There's Your Problem" Aaahh so it's going to be one of *those* episodes, gotcha
As a German, the sight of a smol tram-train that you would find in similar fashion in many parts of the country next to one of those typical North American monster freight locomotives just bluescreened my brain. Imagining a crash between those two would be akin to using a cruise missile to kill a fly...
Canadian National employee here. We got updated instructions about how to handle the company's own business cars about a year ago, now they must go on the tail end (which does look cool as hell) but before we were supposed to move them on the head end of lighter trains. Also, as a freight guy, I can confirm that we WILL find a way to mess up your passenger car, doesn't matter how many instructions you tape to the windows and doors they will be ignored. Following your car around is a very, very, very good idea. We do have special instructions for handling passenger coaches in freight trains but they're buried in a part of the operating manual that no one ever reads. Oh, and while you're whining about the BS that goes on in hump yards just be happy that PSR didn't close the hump yet.
@@cholulahotsauce6166 While I appreciate the sentiment, I can only make you some quesadillas with enough chilli to burn a hole in your tortilla and I don't guarantee you will stay alive after that.
@@ZenobiaofPalmyraHoly shit you weren't kidding. I've seen a lot of "Si aguanta" fuckery in my time but the hung generator literally made me put my head between my hands and scream out of frustration.
I really appreciate the pings you put in so I can check for Devon commentary. I'm not the right flavor of neurodivergent to stare at a mostly static screen for three hours.
Timestamps: 0:00:00 Intro 0:04:54 The GD News: HS2 Latest Victim of Cancel Culture 0:09:57 The GD News: Antivax Zombie Apocalypse Predictions Wrong, Surprisingly 0:11:48 Digression: Sorry In Advance 0:12:20 Ferrocarril del Istmo de Tehuantepec and AMLO 0:26:11 Running on Unfinished Track 0:34:00 Political Opposition and Reception Thereof 0:37:16 Background: Private Train Cars and Old Railcar Refurbishment 0:50:44 The Ordeal: Talgo Scrapping 0:58:58 The Ordeal: Ambassador Calling + Finding Amfleets 1:03:31 The Ordeal: Shipping Amfleets + No Cops Were Harmed 1:19:10 The Ordeal: Getting Dome (Car) 1:23:53 Digression: Livery 1:25:10 The Ordeal: Expectation vs Reality 1:29:46 The Ordeal: Good People and Scary Guns 1:34:47 The Ordeal: Italicised Amfleet + Time Crunch 1:46:28 The Ordeal: HST Foreshadowing 1:48:10 The Ordeal: Early Safety Third 1:53:34 The Ordeal: Skipping The Country 1:57:35 They Ran The Train 2:05:58 Digression: WTYP Crew Not Visiting Mexico 2:09:30 Aftermath Pt1 2:10:56 HST HST HST 2:12:57 HST: Size 2:15:41 HST: Crashworthiness 2:37:10 HST: Long-Term Maintenance 2:46:35 What Happened to Journalism? 2:52:10 Citylink Diesel Tram-Trains 2:56:50 Where Are We Now? 3:01:39 Safety Third: Excessive Propane Flow Full timestamps to follow in the morning, my sleeping pattern can't take a 3 hour episode dropping around 9pm. EDIT 1: Fuller timestamps added, will go for a second pass and expand on "The Ordeal" and "HST HST HST" EDIT 2: OK, timestamps done In keeping with the theme of this episode please do not credit me for the timestamps on this one. NOTE: Judging by the reference to an "upcoming" TF episode, this was recorded a while ago. If you're looking in the timestamps for more current GD News, that's why it's not there.
Bring Skooter back! We have like 7 more episodes from this one mess of a story about trains south of the border. Edit: Good god, do it soon he may not last too long, wholly shit how did this train not crash. Praise Bud, it don't brake.
The way things are going Netanyahu will be talking through recent events with some learned people in The Hague. Starting with “who authorised bombing the hospital?” And “how many people died of thirst?”
Wow, this is... actually valuable journalism, in addition to the usual educational and entertainment value of the podcast. Hopefully this turns out to NOT actually be 'the episode that gets you killed' like it has been advertised. And thank you for providing us all this information. Hopefully the Mexican government eventually takes these concerns to heart and fixes the issues, before someone gets killed. (and doesn't assassinate any of you for bearing the bad news)
Just want to say it's actually really nice and gives me a warm feeling to hear Liam saying "I enjoy being alive" and variations of all podcast. Genuinely good to hear you're doing good man.
I’m an hour and two minutes in and, beyond “are trains”, I haven’t got a clue what this episode is actually supposed to be about. Oh, and also beyond that there was a snowman one time. I love this podcast.
Not only did Mexico just miss the old Cascades Talgos, they must've also just missed the Wisconsin Talgos that Scott Walker cancelled and ended up getting shipped to Nigeria
the old Cascades taldos were junk at the end. They needed another full overhaul top to bottom. The interiors were beat to shit and they were reeeaaaaally starting to ride rough at the end, particularly in push mode; if you were on the far end of the power it'd knock your beer off the table. I was making 2 to 3 round trips from Seattle to Portland monthly at the end of their service. The new Talgos are much better, but in all honesty the Horizon cars running on the Cascades are more comfortable even though they're getting pretty long in the tooth.
@@Chango_Malo The thought of things without couplers having enough slack to do the Tablecloth Pull Trick with everything in your car is not the coziest idea. But it's better than "Sure, send them to where they play Skee-Ball with Alco PA's, and run them on rubber track! Why not?"
I lived in Milwaukee when that shithead cancelled our trains. Even in an age of open and unchecked fascism, there are very few people I hate more than that Wauwatosan turd.
You gave the bistro car in the North West Railway Museum in Snoqualmie, WA. Worked there till a year or two ago, never thought I would hear it so badly shouted out haha
I am also told by a friend of mine at the museum that when the car was recieved there was a broken glass fixture, so it seems Scooter may have gotten a little carried away.
If the talgos are a european sports car with the weird suspension that looks cool, then the HSTs are a classic british sports car - small and light, goes really fast, made of fiberglass and rust, runs well only in extremely specific conditions because it was made by blokes in a shed for other blokes in sheds and WILL break if you look at it wrong
As compared to, say, the 9F, which you can beat to hell for ten years and then throw on a pile of garbage and leave it there for four decades in the salt air and bird shit, and then you and five mates can get her going in pristine BR livery by paying for that instead of streaming anime p0rn for the duration of the project. Yeah, things are much better now. All hail Lord God Modernity.
This episode has surprising relevance to my personal life as someone who was zombified by the emergency broadcast system while riding in one of those Talgo coaches because there are still a few hanging in there until the new Siemens coaches arrive.
Oh this was recorded before the genocidal war. Next episode's The Goddamn News section is going to be so depressing and enraging. Liam will need to bleeped so hard and he will be so right to say whatever he's going to have said.
@@MrJimheeren yeah, and like 500 people are dead. That's just...insane that in 2023 we're still lobbing exploding contraptions between warring factions and mulching tons of civilians indiscriminately.
@@djentlegiant739that 500 number was announced before they'd had time to do any counting, and before the photos were taken in the morning light of the hospital carpark with no impact crater.
the dawning horror about 45 minutes in when you realise this is going to involve former GWR HST sets that are dangerous to drivers & long past retirement....
As someone from Washington state who both loved watching and riding the Talgo's for years, the idea of just fucking brutalizing those beautiful sets with a mallet is just amazing and I wish so badly it could've been me doing it
Man, I can't believe the hosts of the WTYP prodcast, their editor, and two of their most recent guests were all found dead of suicide within 24 hours of each other. It's so strange, they all seemed perfectly fine during the episode, especially with how gruesome their suicidal acts were. As far as I can tell, the only statements put out by any of their local authorities were complaints about how "it looked like a pitched firefight happened in here" at Devon's place.
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At 2:13:25 as soon as the big SD unit was revealed next to the HST, a train outside sounded its horn in a way that really emphasized how foreboding that image was
Welcome to... Well There's Your Problem; a podcast about engineering disasters, that kills its hosts instantly. I'm Ju-uuuuhh! Hello, I'm A-aaaah! Yay Li-eeeeeh!
Roz, Alice and Liam - I NEED you to know that this was the best episode yet. Even better than when the great Horse Viscera meme was birthed during the atmospheric railway episode. All the best.
"and you'll never guess what I saw in the train yard...next slide please" *picture of a train that looks like every other train* *entire podcast groans* "Fucking unbelievable." Alice: if you're just listening... there's an HSN45-R at the train yard... Me: ok so I assume that train was racist
hey! you should talk about the Brumadinho Dam disaster in Brazil. it's quite a sad story, but it's important for the world to know about the crimes the mining company Vale committed!! please consider it ❤️ 🇧🇷 brazil loves you
A 3 hour episode about trains with my favorite guests. Don’t mind if I do. Edit. This might be one of my favorite episodes so far. Absolutely perfect, just what I needed in these dreaded times
Guys i got butchered at work, bunch of stitches in my face like harry potter, then today is first day back at work and i become violently sick, i ak borderline delirious right now i wasn't able to follow much this episode but i just wanna say i fucking love this show. Anyways delirium at an aluminum foundry so as the epsisode ends im boutta go shake hands woth danger
I had a rather hectic work trip to Mexico recently, and I thought I had a good story. Then this comes out and makes my trip seem like a goddamn vacation. Probably the most interesting episode I've ever listened to on this podcast, you guys rock!
43:20 Bud Big Dome, wonderful car, amazingly built and I enjoyed working with them. Mt Hood Railroad previously had two and they were an awful fit for our 22 miles of steep hills & tight curves. My track foreman called them rail spreaders and they deserved to be doing 70 mph on the mainline, not 7 mph up Mt Hood Railway.
I feel what Gareth says about the nostalgia thing on the HST's I dint live on terf Island but where the yellow and blue NS roams. We have news about the koplopers going out of service because they are 46 years old. I want them to keep running forever because they are iconic as can be, but i understand that newer trains would be better and they should retire (still really dont want that, because i loke seeing the koploper) (At least i am praying for a sentimental goodbye video like they gave the SGM, which was really beautiful (if you want to see this, it is called "afscheid van de oersprinter SGM | NS"))
44:48 As a brakeman, my coworkers & I called the Polar Express the, "Bi Polar Express" Complete cattle driving of people, Dual Unit GP38 & GP9 pulling 14 cars from a 1914 passenger car all the way to a Big Dome Budd.
I don't know how you decide what topics to make videos about but it would be cool if you did one about the Boeing light rail train you've brought up a few times before. Another great topic would be the Battle of Palmdale, where the Air Force tried to shoot down a target drone they lost control of and, because of the terrible engineering of the fighters they used, ended up raining more than 200 rockets on the suburbs of Los Angeles.
Not to mention, we also have things like Real Ale Trains (the "RAT") here on heritage railways in the UK, where it's a piss-up on a train. It works well.
Can confirm for Gareth, the Hogs very much do love this. I'm getting depression wine drunk and loving this shit. 10/10 (Edit for clarification: Not loving the depression. Loving the trains.) (Edit 2: Loving trains in general, not whatever the fuck is happening with this specific train situation.)
How are they even going to run the 125s without the proper signaling? Surely the drivers would recognize how bad of an idea that is, even if nobody else does.
Was halfway through another episode with Gareth when I saw this. Great continuity from my perspective although Liam was a lot less mad in that one. Love the, what I'm assuming were, censored death threats straight out the gate.
I want Devon to know all of their hard work is noticed and appreciated
This.
YOU BOYS LIKE MEXICO!
The can count is excellent.
Hard work’s for suckers. Devon, you go ahead and half-ass it if you feel like it.
Devon puts in a lot of hard work and they do a fantastic job
A 3 hour episode and a censored actionable threat within the first minute? Just beautiful WTYP things!
(satire)
And a merited actionable threat at that (satire in Minecraft/Roblox). To hell with US health insurance and our current (anti-)healthcare system.
Liam's first words being "f*ck you" are perfect
We don't know it was actionable and neither do you
@@felixstone7593 If it gets a bleep, it's actionable.
this rail project is a psyop directed specifically at the hosts of this podcast with the goal of getting them to say train bad
The only podcast that can reduce its hosts to a soup-like homogenate
You mean marinara?
No, chunky marinara
"Hey Justin, Alice, Liam and possible guest, I recently recorded a podcast about a Mexican rail project"
@@pangolin83 pico de gallo?
@@True_NOON It's Mexico, so more of a Salsa, I think.
The episode that gets them all killed, but they all come back as ghosts for the scary episode
I eagerly await the haunted trains episode later this month
"ah, a happy ending"
*looks at the time stamp and sees that there is over an hour left
"Oh no"
The Polar Express is so funny, cuz like, Santa already had a flying sleigh pulled by frickin magic animals, and then the guy who wrote Jumanji was like "what if trains"... and because Americans don't know what that is it's somehow more fantastical.
"A train you CAN RIDE IN????? WITH SNACKS?????"
I like the idea of us adding more and more modes of Christmas transportation until Santa eventually has to establish a maintenance and logistics corps.
I wanna see a children's book about the gumdrop track maintenance elves and reindeer Seabees battalion
Sad but true
@@Valkyrie9000 Santa will actually start a credit card company like all the airlines.
@@LeCharles07 Get 3% Nice Points on every purchase!
But the book came with a bell. It came with the silver bell from the sleigh.
Santa doesn't ride the train, the children ride the train to get the first gifts of Christmas.
Over 3 hours? Gareth? [Redacted]? Angrier Liam? Trains?!
Fuck yes
(RIP Devon)
I just need to voice my appreciation for the reoccurring "I have a child" bit in the form of this tribute to the algorithm.
Reminded me of the "I have a wife" guy in Speed
as scary as the passenger train is, the test freight train for this line was 10 hoppers of cement with two tankers of HYDROFLOURIC ACID nestled in. Lets test out the rushed together jank line with 2 giant cans of nightmare juice hooked up to a bunch of enormous hammers!
Why, why would it even be loaded?! Much less with hazmat?! On a test?!
😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
Testing in production as they say in software dev. The possible bodycount is higher in this instance though
Oh it gets even better. I found video. Wikipedia and the newspaper article said hydrofluoric, but it was actually anhydrous hydrogen fluoride, which is liquid in the tank but boils into a gas at standard temp and pressure, which then turns into hydrofluoric acid whenever it touches water, such as on your skin, eyes, lungs, etc.
@@JuneNafzigeryou need to test a filled tank car, but you could just use water
The WTYP handcart: Rocz and Liam are operating the seesaw handles as usual; meanwhile, Alice has bolted an AA gun to the back and elected herself gunner. Liam periodically kicks something off the side to save weight.
And Francis from Hell of a Way to Die muses about whether or not this is, in fact, a technical.
come on how is it not a technical. It's a moving thing with a gun mounted on it where the gun isn't supposed to be there@@ValerieEnriquez
@@thisisaname3283right but it's not free to move except on tracks.
The glorious intersection of Technical and armoured train
Devon is providing support and commentary via telegraph, leading to regular interminable arguments about how to spell things in Morse
This whole episode is like an extended safety third
Not even Safety Last. More like Safety Not Even On The List.
After the "oops all news" episode I was thinking an "oops all safety third" episode would actually be kinda cool.
@@Madhouse_Media !!! I would [redacted] to get an "oops, all safety third" episode
@@Madhouse_Media Which one is that?
“I almost shot a cop for this” is the most Mexican sentiment for this whole saga.
As someone with chronic illness I'm already a fan of this episode for liam's intro alone
Medicare for all immediately, and if you disagree I will lawndart you into a trailer like rey mysterio on wcw nitro
Chronically ill here too. Lost a friend because he (type 1 diabetic) ran out of insulin in another state, and I was out of the loop.😭
It's not just that we're getting ripped off in the US, people are dying and going bankrupt, too.
Another disabled person chiming in to support actual care and support for disabled people. (And everyone.)
As a person who's had my anxiety pills covered by my state's medi-care system since I got off my family's plan, I one hundred percent agree with you. There's no reason health care should cost so much when medi care service is just as good for comparatively very little.
LETS GET READY TO RUMMMMBLE!!!!!!!
Ray Mysterio Jr. Oh man, one of the best
Uniquely horrifying vibes in these rare pre-disaster episodes.
We get the normal explanation of how these things work, the shortcomings and flaws inherent in their designs, the ways that these aren't *too* bad as long as you follow the instructions, the startling list of ways that those instructions are not being followed...
And then Rocz doesn't say a date. Yet.
Patience, Grasshopper.
Garreth apologizing like WTYP listeners aren't used to being verbally abused.
It's like Dennis Miller said, in the 1996 Playboy Interview, about the first time he saw Richard Belzer: "Before that, I was a normal, nice comic, sucking up to the audience. Seeing Belzer changed my life. Some lady yelled 'Do Mick Jagger!' and he said "What am I, your fucking comedy pet? Why don't I come down there and fuck you while your husband watches?' She laughed, and her husband laughed even harder. I thought, 'Oh, I get it, they enjoy a little abuse. They spend all week at work getting their asses kissed, and having to kiss ass, and this is the only place they can get some honesty.' It was like bam, the sword from the stone."
WTYP is like punk rock, or a forest fire. It cuts through the crap. It clears the palate before the next course of everyday shite. Cheers.
Honestly, I'm more insulted that he apologized
@@Man2quilla sorry chums
@@GarethDennisTV It’s ok. You have a child.
@@GarethDennisTV oh no, now I'm even more conflicted!
That Amtrak train crash you talk about at 52:45 was not in Oregon, it was in Olympia, Washington. My co-workers were EXTREMELY late for work that day, and sent some dazzling pictures of the train hanging off the bridge. One of our folks was the third automobile back from the actual dangling train cars - she knew a little first aid and had blankets & water, so she did what she could.
i'd like to express my gratitude to alice, liam, roz, gareth, scooter, devon, and Activate Windows for motivating me through grocery shopping, meal prep, cleaning my kitchen AND folding my laundry all on a goddamn weekday. thank you wonderful people for your hard work, actionable threats, highly specific knowledge, & comedy!
Inb4 literally anyone finishes the podcast
I’m in my bed kicking my feet giggling like a schoolgirl to listen to this new WTYP
same but im at my desk with 19 tabs open
Im sat on my sofa ready to rock
@@funny2xUSgot to bump those numbers up. Thems rookie numbers.
I'm sad in my bed but 3 hours of trains is helping!
@@funny2xUS them's rookie numbers
25:42 “gotta have one of those indigenous-owned railways” Mexico just needs to follow the Canada model: Privatize their nationalized railway, then help several indigenous groups pay for buying the tracks from the privatized railways that refuse to maintain essential transportation links
As a Canadian this made me sad because it's true
That already happened, that's why they're no passenger trains in Mexico, it's all freight private owned.
the amounts of disclaimers and worries about being killed make me think this is gonna be a good episode
Halfway through and I've completely lost track of what actually happened in this story. Thankfully, I've been sufficiently reassured that "we'll get there"
A new WTYP episode, _and_ it's a three-hour episode on a railway? Fuck yes
And it has Gareth ❤
Three guests! A new record! Hellll yeaaahhhh!!
"... And if you are the Mexican Government I am not legally associated with Well There's Your Problem"
Aaahh so it's going to be one of *those* episodes, gotcha
Wait, they got the scoop on a breaking problem? They're practically grazing from the bulk problem bins at the travesty store! Happy Birthday to me!
Hay its my birthday too, happy birthday 🎉
Happy birthday three!
I only had the one cake, I hope sharing is okay 🎂
I have a small present 🎁. Happy birthday to you both
As a German, the sight of a smol tram-train that you would find in similar fashion in many parts of the country next to one of those typical North American monster freight locomotives just bluescreened my brain.
Imagining a crash between those two would be akin to using a cruise missile to kill a fly...
Canadian National employee here. We got updated instructions about how to handle the company's own business cars about a year ago, now they must go on the tail end (which does look cool as hell) but before we were supposed to move them on the head end of lighter trains. Also, as a freight guy, I can confirm that we WILL find a way to mess up your passenger car, doesn't matter how many instructions you tape to the windows and doors they will be ignored. Following your car around is a very, very, very good idea. We do have special instructions for handling passenger coaches in freight trains but they're buried in a part of the operating manual that no one ever reads. Oh, and while you're whining about the BS that goes on in hump yards just be happy that PSR didn't close the hump yet.
As a Mexican I'm bracing myself for the shit show this project is gonna be. This is going to be a good one.
Sorry about Mexico.
And pretty much every other country.
Thank you for your cuisine.
@@cholulahotsauce6166 While I appreciate the sentiment, I can only make you some quesadillas with enough chilli to burn a hole in your tortilla and I don't guarantee you will stay alive after that.
Oh it is worse than you know...
@@ZenobiaofPalmyraHoly shit you weren't kidding. I've seen a lot of "Si aguanta" fuckery in my time but the hung generator literally made me put my head between my hands and scream out of frustration.
I really appreciate the pings you put in so I can check for Devon commentary. I'm not the right flavor of neurodivergent to stare at a mostly static screen for three hours.
I feel that.
My neurodivergentcy is kinda feeling rocky road right now. Not really vibing with it.
Timestamps:
0:00:00 Intro
0:04:54 The GD News: HS2 Latest Victim of Cancel Culture
0:09:57 The GD News: Antivax Zombie Apocalypse Predictions Wrong, Surprisingly
0:11:48 Digression: Sorry In Advance
0:12:20 Ferrocarril del Istmo de Tehuantepec and AMLO
0:26:11 Running on Unfinished Track
0:34:00 Political Opposition and Reception Thereof
0:37:16 Background: Private Train Cars and Old Railcar Refurbishment
0:50:44 The Ordeal: Talgo Scrapping
0:58:58 The Ordeal: Ambassador Calling + Finding Amfleets
1:03:31 The Ordeal: Shipping Amfleets + No Cops Were Harmed
1:19:10 The Ordeal: Getting Dome (Car)
1:23:53 Digression: Livery
1:25:10 The Ordeal: Expectation vs Reality
1:29:46 The Ordeal: Good People and Scary Guns
1:34:47 The Ordeal: Italicised Amfleet + Time Crunch
1:46:28 The Ordeal: HST Foreshadowing
1:48:10 The Ordeal: Early Safety Third
1:53:34 The Ordeal: Skipping The Country
1:57:35 They Ran The Train
2:05:58 Digression: WTYP Crew Not Visiting Mexico
2:09:30 Aftermath Pt1
2:10:56 HST HST HST
2:12:57 HST: Size
2:15:41 HST: Crashworthiness
2:37:10 HST: Long-Term Maintenance
2:46:35 What Happened to Journalism?
2:52:10 Citylink Diesel Tram-Trains
2:56:50 Where Are We Now?
3:01:39 Safety Third: Excessive Propane Flow
Full timestamps to follow in the morning, my sleeping pattern can't take a 3 hour episode dropping around 9pm.
EDIT 1: Fuller timestamps added, will go for a second pass and expand on "The Ordeal" and "HST HST HST"
EDIT 2: OK, timestamps done
In keeping with the theme of this episode please do not credit me for the timestamps on this one.
NOTE: Judging by the reference to an "upcoming" TF episode, this was recorded a while ago. If you're looking in the timestamps for more current GD News, that's why it's not there.
get some sleep and don't forget to add in your own disclaimer when you get back to it - you're still doing the good work for all us hogs.
and yeah, I am not looking forward to the next edition of the GD news.
“Excessive propane flow” is an attention-grabbing phrase if I’ve ever seen one
The extended casualty list from this episode: Tom Hanks for being rendered in The Polar Express... and @MicKulty
@@pearceburns2787 I made it, finally...
Getting a guest who was nearly redacted by the Mexican government is a real coup. Pun not intended.
Bring Skooter back! We have like 7 more episodes from this one mess of a story about trains south of the border.
Edit: Good god, do it soon he may not last too long, wholly shit how did this train not crash. Praise Bud, it don't brake.
My prediction for next episode(assuming our hosts are still alive) is the first 15 minutes will be nothing but actionable threats against Netanyahu.
The way things are going Netanyahu will be talking through recent events with some learned people in The Hague. Starting with “who authorised bombing the hospital?” And “how many people died of thirst?”
@@davidwright7193 "I keep telling you, your honour, they're not people, they're *arabs*."
@@davidwright7193 Hey look folks, we got an optimist here! Don't you know better things aren't possible?
@@Frommerman I remember when I thought better things were possible.
Sigh...[1959 Virginia Accent] Was Ah evah that young?
Achievement unlocked: The Episode That Gets Them All Killed
This Is That Episode
Oh, I hope not. - "The Right Stuff"
The episode : UPS! It's all safety third
/*shake hands with danger*/
Starting off strong with Righteous Anger Liam and assassination concerns.
Wow, this is... actually valuable journalism, in addition to the usual educational and entertainment value of the podcast.
Hopefully this turns out to NOT actually be 'the episode that gets you killed' like it has been advertised. And thank you for providing us all this information.
Hopefully the Mexican government eventually takes these concerns to heart and fixes the issues, before someone gets killed. (and doesn't assassinate any of you for bearing the bad news)
nobody is getting assassinated over this go touch grass
Can you imagine how satisfying it would be to peel off the plastic off of an entire train car, though?
This is more like the plastic wrap has been placed back over the dirty hair and fingerprint covered car and it doesn't peel off right.
OMG SOOO SATISFYING. A whole train? I'd go into serotonin shock.
I'd just like people to know that Gareth Dennis has a child.
You're kid-ding me!
Just want to say it's actually really nice and gives me a warm feeling to hear Liam saying "I enjoy being alive" and variations of all podcast.
Genuinely good to hear you're doing good man.
I’m an hour and two minutes in and, beyond “are trains”, I haven’t got a clue what this episode is actually supposed to be about.
Oh, and also beyond that there was a snowman one time.
I love this podcast.
I think i just like hearing them talk even though I understand nothing
At last! The episode that will get us all killed!
No, that was the deer prion one. 🙃
I like that Alice pluralizes "Saddam Hussein" as "Saddams Hussein," like attorneys general
You too can get elected Saddam Hussein of your local municipality. 😶
Not only did Mexico just miss the old Cascades Talgos, they must've also just missed the Wisconsin Talgos that Scott Walker cancelled and ended up getting shipped to Nigeria
I heard a rumor they were trying to buy the three remaining turboliner sets from amtrak lmfao
the old Cascades taldos were junk at the end. They needed another full overhaul top to bottom. The interiors were beat to shit and they were reeeaaaaally starting to ride rough at the end, particularly in push mode; if you were on the far end of the power it'd knock your beer off the table. I was making 2 to 3 round trips from Seattle to Portland monthly at the end of their service. The new Talgos are much better, but in all honesty the Horizon cars running on the Cascades are more comfortable even though they're getting pretty long in the tooth.
@@Chango_Malo The thought of things without couplers having enough slack to do the Tablecloth Pull Trick with everything in your car is not the coziest idea. But it's better than "Sure, send them to where they play Skee-Ball with Alco PA's, and run them on rubber track! Why not?"
I lived in Milwaukee when that shithead cancelled our trains. Even in an age of open and unchecked fascism, there are very few people I hate more than that Wauwatosan turd.
Another 3 hour episode another piece of Deven's soul cast into the void
Can confirm as a native Cincinnatian--our yard is _very_ hump-happy.
Mood, tho'.
Alice: "We will pay to get 2 more plaques made"
Devon:
This feels like a Safety Third segment but with the person writing in as the guest.
that's exactly what this episode was
You gave the bistro car in the North West Railway Museum in Snoqualmie, WA. Worked there till a year or two ago, never thought I would hear it so badly shouted out haha
I am also told by a friend of mine at the museum that when the car was recieved there was a broken glass fixture, so it seems Scooter may have gotten a little carried away.
I love that Devon shares our enthusiasm for Gareth getting into stride. Always love having him on an episode.
If the talgos are a european sports car with the weird suspension that looks cool, then the HSTs are a classic british sports car - small and light, goes really fast, made of fiberglass and rust, runs well only in extremely specific conditions because it was made by blokes in a shed for other blokes in sheds and WILL break if you look at it wrong
As compared to, say, the 9F, which you can beat to hell for ten years and then throw on a pile of garbage and leave it there for four decades in the salt air and bird shit, and then you and five mates can get her going in pristine BR livery by paying for that instead of streaming anime p0rn for the duration of the project.
Yeah, things are much better now. All hail Lord God Modernity.
This episode has surprising relevance to my personal life as someone who was zombified by the emergency broadcast system while riding in one of those Talgo coaches because there are still a few hanging in there until the new Siemens coaches arrive.
Same lol Amtrak Cascades
Oh this was recorded before the genocidal war.
Next episode's The Goddamn News section is going to be so depressing and enraging. Liam will need to bleeped so hard and he will be so right to say whatever he's going to have said.
Have you seen the thumbnail for the F-104 Starfighter episode?
But yeah, a depressing set of events that'll have no good outcomes for anyone.
And now a hospital blew up and both sides are pointing fingers to each other. Fun stuff
@@MrJimheeren yeah, and like 500 people are dead. That's just...insane that in 2023 we're still lobbing exploding contraptions between warring factions and mulching tons of civilians indiscriminately.
This may prompt the other episode that kills the hosts instantly, Israel.
@@djentlegiant739that 500 number was announced before they'd had time to do any counting, and before the photos were taken in the morning light of the hospital carpark with no impact crater.
"Pues Ahí Está Tu Problema" en vivo en la CDMX por favor
With Alice in person, even though she never makes it to the States. Would be extra funny.
...creo que yo viajaría desde los EEUU a CDMX por mirar el programa en vivo
the dawning horror about 45 minutes in when you realise this is going to involve former GWR HST sets that are dangerous to drivers & long past retirement....
Oh good this is one long horrific Safety Third. RIP everyone involved with this podcast
As someone from Washington state who both loved watching and riding the Talgo's for years, the idea of just fucking brutalizing those beautiful sets with a mallet is just amazing and I wish so badly it could've been me doing it
❤ ty.
Am I the only Foamer west of the cascades that hates the Talgos?
@@IndustrialParrot2816 yes
Man, I can't believe the hosts of the WTYP prodcast, their editor, and two of their most recent guests were all found dead of suicide within 24 hours of each other. It's so strange, they all seemed perfectly fine during the episode, especially with how gruesome their suicidal acts were. As far as I can tell, the only statements put out by any of their local authorities were complaints about how "it looked like a pitched firefight happened in here" at Devon's place.
Yeah, while they were all handcuffed. Nothing to see here.
Looking at the length of the episode, I think this one gets them killed because Devon goes Postal during editing
Especially if just the first 12 minutes took an hour and a half!
@@bookcat123yeah oof. Thoughts and prayers to Devon
WTYP is like Knight Rider. There's a Devon who makes everything work from behind the scenes.
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But...but...but...muh safety!!
tee hee
aw *hell* yeah another 3 hour one!
Sorry, Devon.
I just want to thank Alice for the phrase “stackable Saddam’s Hussein”
Yeah, it's like "grands prix". Makes perfect sense...
At 2:13:25 as soon as the big SD unit was revealed next to the HST, a train outside sounded its horn in a way that really emphasized how foreboding that image was
Welcome to... Well There's Your Problem; a podcast about engineering disasters, that kills its hosts instantly. I'm Ju-uuuuhh!
Hello, I'm A-aaaah!
Yay Li-eeeeeh!
You know it's going to be a good day when it's less than a minute to the first bleeped out actionable threat.
When ever anything happens in the world, I channel Liam and his clearly non actionable threats.
I hope lots of people have a nice time, too
Roz, Alice and Liam - I NEED you to know that this was the best episode yet. Even better than when the great Horse Viscera meme was birthed during the atmospheric railway episode. All the best.
I began this episode not knowing what humping was, I now know that I could've died in some nuclear disaster in Cincinnati lol
"and you'll never guess what I saw in the train yard...next slide please"
*picture of a train that looks like every other train*
*entire podcast groans*
"Fucking unbelievable."
Alice: if you're just listening... there's an HSN45-R at the train yard...
Me: ok so I assume that train was racist
Well, it is British, so racist imperialist
All the guys by the derailed train are saying “Alli este tu problema.”
I just don't understand how Garth Ennis can take the time off from working on comics for 2000 A.D. and the like to do this show, but it's appreciated!
hey! you should talk about the Brumadinho Dam disaster in Brazil. it's quite a sad story, but it's important for the world to know about the crimes the mining company Vale committed!! please consider it ❤️ 🇧🇷 brazil loves you
I do love a whole 3.25 hour episode that's both about trains and is basically a Safety Third all in one! Ya love to see it!
Hi from Pueblo, Colorado, where we just had a rail disaster that's too small to ever appear on this podcast, except for this comment.
Thank you for your service.
Second CO derailment in a coupla weeks! Which seems crazy and bad until you remember that the class 1s derail 1475 trains a year! (Avg from 2005-2021)
Too small because it's on one of the state's historical narrow-gauge lines?
@@ssgtmole8610 The survivors made a narrow escape.
A 3 hour episode about trains with my favorite guests. Don’t mind if I do.
Edit. This might be one of my favorite episodes so far. Absolutely perfect, just what I needed in these dreaded times
Guys i got butchered at work, bunch of stitches in my face like harry potter, then today is first day back at work and i become violently sick, i ak borderline delirious right now i wasn't able to follow much this episode but i just wanna say i fucking love this show. Anyways delirium at an aluminum foundry so as the epsisode ends im boutta go shake hands woth danger
Please stay away from the high voltage, and the hot metal.
scooter's story sounds like a shitty B movie but it being in the context of this podcast had me nervously laughing and unable to sleep
i remember doing a polar express at the grand canyon right before i got old enough to realize santa wasn't real and that hot chocolate slapped
0:39 normally I don't really wonder much about what Liam says that gets bleeped, but this one sounds *real* personal and I'll always be curious.
I love how this ends with them saying "good night everyone" because while it wasn't night when I started the episode, it is now.
I had a rather hectic work trip to Mexico recently, and I thought I had a good story. Then this comes out and makes my trip seem like a goddamn vacation.
Probably the most interesting episode I've ever listened to on this podcast, you guys rock!
43:20 Bud Big Dome, wonderful car, amazingly built and I enjoyed working with them.
Mt Hood Railroad previously had two and they were an awful fit for our 22 miles of steep hills & tight curves.
My track foreman called them rail spreaders and they deserved to be doing 70 mph on the mainline, not 7 mph up Mt Hood Railway.
Coming to this after todays trash Future is great because it's an almost uninterrupted scream of anger over hs2 being cancelled.
Oh sweet something to listen to on an exactly 3hr bike ride.
I love how Gareth and Scooter sound like kindred spirits, that always give a warm feeling.
23:38 "we should start speeding up"
*looks at video timer*
I feel what Gareth says about the nostalgia thing on the HST's
I dint live on terf Island but where the yellow and blue NS roams. We have news about the koplopers going out of service because they are 46 years old. I want them to keep running forever because they are iconic as can be, but i understand that newer trains would be better and they should retire (still really dont want that, because i loke seeing the koploper)
(At least i am praying for a sentimental goodbye video like they gave the SGM, which was really beautiful (if you want to see this, it is called "afscheid van de oersprinter SGM | NS"))
44:48 As a brakeman, my coworkers & I called the Polar Express the, "Bi Polar Express"
Complete cattle driving of people, Dual Unit GP38 & GP9 pulling 14 cars from a 1914 passenger car all the way to a Big Dome Budd.
I don't know how you decide what topics to make videos about but it would be cool if you did one about the Boeing light rail train you've brought up a few times before. Another great topic would be the Battle of Palmdale, where the Air Force tried to shoot down a target drone they lost control of and, because of the terrible engineering of the fighters they used, ended up raining more than 200 rockets on the suburbs of Los Angeles.
"Turns out, like 40 feet" I fucking love this guy ,keep him.
And there's like an hour left.
Cheers lads (and lassie)
51:30 Cascades! I've ridden those trains home for the past decade and change.
E: And it's the *Point* Defiance Bypass, up around Tacoma, WA.
Not to mention, we also have things like Real Ale Trains (the "RAT") here on heritage railways in the UK, where it's a piss-up on a train. It works well.
Hell yea, on my honeymoon in France and have a 4 hour drive to Beaune tomorrow. Guess who just told his wife to get ready for 3 hours of disaster
Congrats my friend 👍 enjoy the ep.
You still married? 😜
She already got her three hours of disaster the first night. HEYOOOOOO.
Can confirm for Gareth, the Hogs very much do love this. I'm getting depression wine drunk and loving this shit. 10/10 (Edit for clarification: Not loving the depression. Loving the trains.) (Edit 2: Loving trains in general, not whatever the fuck is happening with this specific train situation.)
Bumper trains, only the trains aren't made to bump, and they don't run on overhead electric connections. 😮😮
I want a 3rd edit acknowledging my stupid comment.
hell yeah!! the podcast that kills you instantly!! with slides!!
How are they even going to run the 125s without the proper signaling? Surely the drivers would recognize how bad of an idea that is, even if nobody else does.
Only 0:38 seconds in and Liam pulls out actionable threats. Looking forward to the rest of this…
What have we learned? Gareth has a child.
And US rail vehicle engineers will ensure that you get there. It remains debatable as to whether "there" us a good place to be.
I feel empathy for Scooter. I, too, often use the royal we for no goddamn reason and confuse both myself and whoever I'm talking to.
Was halfway through another episode with Gareth when I saw this. Great continuity from my perspective although Liam was a lot less mad in that one. Love the, what I'm assuming were, censored death threats straight out the gate.