My New Music Studio - Moving From France
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- My New Music Studio - Moving From France
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Chapters, life is nothing more than chapters. One opens, one closes. Martin, time for the next chapter. But don't let the story end.
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Life's not a story though. If it were, you could just go back and re-write the parts that you didn't like.
- _It's just a move, just a move._
@@unsteadyeddy3107 He's being metaphorical. He's not talking about an actual book, he's talking about moving forward.
The end of one arc, and the start of another. I wonder what happens to the France studio though. If anyone unfamiliar with Martin and the Marble Machine ever goes there and sees a metal ball on random locations, they'd be scratching their head.
I can't believe it is 4 years since the move to France. I remember back in the old days in the shipping container in Sweden. Sorry to hear about the issues in your personal life. Best wishes to your Dad and good luck with setting up your new digs.
Excuse me, 4 years? Impossible.
The shipping container move-in was my very first Wintergatan Wednesday video after finding the original MM Music Video, the Cover Tune playlist, and then Martin's reaction videos to the covers.
Seriously! I can't believe it's been that long! Crazy.
@@VFink-qt2pt Hey, maybe we are distant cousins!
@@michaelfink64
Well, we are now! Prepare to be invited to all family events from now.
First: heart goes out to your dad, much love to you and your family.
Second: thank you for the update, it's great to see how things have been going, and it was a very enjoyable video.
Third: please stop thinking of your machines as enemies and failures, I'm desperately worried it's going to ruin your artistic soul from the inside out. Respecting the machines is the same as respecting yourself.
agreed, the MMX succeeded in being the prototype of the future touring machine and helped martin learn how to be an engineer.
can't say how much I agree with 3rd! I sincerely hope Martin finds a way to live himself and his machines 💖
It's too bad that the MMX won't be completed, but hopefully the move to Sweden will be a good reset, especially if it results in more Wintergatan music.
and less suburbia!
Cool to see you here!
Based and orangepilled.
Of course you're on Wintergatan too. Do all my favorite CZcamsrs follow each other??
mmx has been completed years ago. maybe only the money procrastination has stopped now
The MMX may not have been good enough for the “world tour” pipe dream but it was certainly good enough to record a single song for all of the fans and supporters.
You clearly haven’t been watching/following the discord if you believe that.
Yeah, Martin. I am a long time fan BECAUSE things aren't perfect. I simply love your Virtuose mind, with all of its perks.
If you decide to record on the MMX, please leave in all sounds of marbles falling off, I would simply see it as part of the music the MMX produces. For me, imperfections, unexpected things, and all the nitty gritty stuff (to some amount of course) make life beautiful. It makes us excited, expecting and puts all our senses on edge. For me this makes me enjoy music even more.
Perfection is a good thing to strive for, without it your music wouldn't be of such quality. But look at what you achieved! MMX is such a step forward. All your achievement and growth of this chapter deserve a hymn. A closure of this chapter so you will, and the opening of a new one. To celebrate all new opportunities and knowledge you have gained.
thats what i think as well. Sure it isnt perfekt, but it cetainly works good enough for recording songs.
Even in the WorldTour Setting, as long as the Machine itself doesnt break midway, i dont really see the problem with some few marbles falling down. I dont think anyone except Martin would notice this.
@@JulianGrayMedia You do not have to watch discord to know about the state of the machine. Recording was possible, live was not possible. MMX was far more reliable than MM, even with the old sliding plywood releasers...
I'm sure he will be back with some more false hope when he gets low on money.
The first machine was far from perfect, yet played a song that touched millions. Having followed the creation of the second machine from the beginning, I certainly would feel it's story incomplete if you never give it a proper send off. I feel like you haven't given it a chance to speak. Too worried it will fumble it's words to even give it a chance. It just seems so sad to leave it like this...
I agree. But also, I have had big projects which I ended due to life changing circumstances, and didn't want to touch them for years. I was building a massive modular synth. My best friend and band member died. And I got out of all that. Didn't touch my synth. Didn't even listen to electronic music for years. But then.. Plugged it in about 8 years later. And had a great time. Made plans for more modules. Would get back to it, if I didn't have a kid and zero time now...
Anyway, I can see how this is similar for Martin. This project could be tied to part of his past he doesn't want to think about for now. Hopefully some day we get a song or album. The machine is definitely capable.
machines 1 & 2 have gone to a German Museum. MMX will be tried to make a static playable instrument.
He has said multiple times the machine just doesn't work, and it would take too much work and time to make it work.
While I do share much the same sentiment, I think I remember Martin saying that the machine was actually broken... like some of it's (important) pieces were broken, and if replaced they would only break again. They were critical design flaws that just do not allow for the machine to work for long enough to do a proper sendoff without some redesigning.
@@MrPointness Yeah, the magnetic lifter system exploded. Broke pipes and what not.
Martin, the red arrow sketch with This Old Tony was not stupid. Both of your channels ignited my curiosity for machining. That curiosity led me to pursue a degree in Machine Tool Technology, and I recently obtained an amazing job in the field. I wouldn't be where I'm at now had you not done that sketch.
Such a great sketch!!
this is so inspiring i actually. cried a little. 🥲
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Ngl I'm disappointed you're not going to finish the MMX. I was emotionally and financially invested to watch you build this incredible work of art, that was by some miracle going to play beautiful music and break CZcams again when it debuted. You used to be proud of your non-form-from-function approach; that's personally what I liked most about it. I was amazed how "close to perfect" you got the MMX. Without you at least giving the MMX a swan song, I'm afraid I feel too emotionally drained to watch another machine be built/abandoned.
Separate from my feelings about the MMX, I'm sorry to hear your father is ill, and that you and your partner separated; family is definitely more important than a machine that drops marbles. I wish you the best Martin
"financially invested " hahahahaha hope you like how you financed his mental breakdown world travels
Martin: "The wonderful thing about a dancing bear is not how well it dances but that it dances at all". A machine that can't go on tour like you want, and can only manage a single take without serious finagling, isn't worthless to create. I don't think MMX was all that bad really, and would've been adequate for an album worth of songs and music videos, if not a tour. Please reconsider your plans because you've been building wondrous things that might not have been suited to big plans but would still have opened eyes.
I still remember when my middle school science teacher stopped class to show us all the OG marble machine video back when it released. Keep up the great work!
I remember watching it in Elementary music class 😂
My dad showed it to me! He saw it on Facebook
Remember my math teacher showing it to our class
I remember watching it when it first came out and how excited I was when the MMX project started. That feels like just a few months ago though :)
This is so amazing!
*Martin we did it!* 🎉 today I got my engineering diploma and I’m finally an event engineer! I was so lost after my A-Level but you journey showed me, that engineering + music is my key to bring a smile to the face of strangers. For the past year I woke up and the first thing I saw was the technical drawing of your creation with the words „pain is temporary, glory is forever“ above. I pushed myself so hard to live up to this and succeeded. Not a long time ago I thought about just giving up. I owe you not only my degree. I owe you so much more. You and your struggles for perfection taught me so much about myself and how to overcome my insecurities, you taught me how to create my own milestones and how to achieve them.
Now I can look at the drawing from another perspective, the pain isn’t temporary, and the glory is not forever. But that doesn’t matter, because I learned so much more on my own journey. Your struggle became something I wanted to experience myself and I tried to become the one who makes art possible with the help of our technology.
I got out of my comfort zone and tried to go through the world with open eyes. In conclusion it wasn’t about me making Art possible, it was all about meeting artists and being a small cog in the machine which in the end led to happines. But not only for myself, it happened to me that I got so much strength through the smiles of random strangers who just were in awe because of the experience they had in that unique moment. That was the first time I knew that I am on the right way. And in that moment I thought of you and decided to write this text.
Not so long ago it was you who made me smile and pause the video I watched, just to appreciate the moment with all the joy your progress brought into my life. You were the one who gave me the push I needed.
Thank you martin, you have a special place in my heart. Without you, your art and your music.. my life would be missing something.
Giving up on the MMX reminds me of how I spent years never releasing recordings because they weren't flawless... Then eventually I started to realize that perfection is the enemy of good enough, and left flaws in, and now I'm releasing music much more regularly.
Martin, you're on your own path, and I've encouraged you to just make music for yourself in the past, so I'm all for you doing that.
But remember that perfection is rarely achieved deliberately, if ever.
Good luck! The new digs look fantastic.
Never a failure. Think of all the mechanical engineering lessons.
I fucking love Hannes. Can I hire him for my next move? Personal hype man, and the energy, and attitude, what a friend to have.
That was my first thought seeing this video, too. If only everyone could have a friend like Hannes.
Hannes is a sizzling mountain of man-steak…. And a wonderful human being
Have you heard the podcast series they did together? It was great!
I too have loved Hannes forever! What a beautiful “man-steak” and all-around FABULOUS guy. Everyone should indeed have such a loyal, fun friend! ❤
Dammit, people, stop being so selfish. Everyone should *be* a friend like Hannes.
Hey! Relatively longer viewer here. It feels like you consider MMX such a failure, not having made a full song, or not being able to have no issues. Maybe from the engineer's standpoint, its a failed prototype, but I think from the artist's perspective, and especially from the viewer's perspective, it was an amazing time. Just seeing the clips you've put in this video testing the MMX, even with just partial functionality, is a testament to how awesome the project was. Sure, maybe there were some design flaws, but you made a whole video detailing that and how you plan to fix that in MM3, and I think that's a win.
My challenge to you is not to see MMX as a failure. It's a step in the prototyping process. MM3 will hopefully be the fully working prototype, and it'll be amazing. But there's no way you learn everything you did without making MMX. I am excited to see more of the engineering process for MM3 and how that's going to turn out,!.
Hopefully your father feels better
I feel like Martin might do better viewing the development of the Marble machine as an iterative process, rather than a project with a grand climax. I'd love to see not only a MM3 project, but actually MM4,5,6,7,8 etc... each iteratively improving on the last. As well as being a more manageable project it makes for more a more compelling series (and probably an overall better product at the end, given all the additional learning from multiple versions). I hesitate to call them prototypes, because I think if the MMX is anything to go by they will almost all be perfectly functional in their own way!
Good to hear from you Martin - as you can see you've been missed! All the best to your father.
It did spawn a nice jam session on that last live stream. Close enough to a song.
MMX is a failure, easily seen. But a brilliant source of revenue. Enjoy burning your tshirts for the third machine shirt. I was on board with this project 4 years ago, now it feels like watching a kid build his dream backyard rollercoaster with no one telling him hes wasting everyone's time. Im most upset that he wasted this old Tony's time. Jesus fucking christ
@@head__ache why are you so mad? You clearly care more about yourself than martins well being.
@@head__ache grifters gonna grift
7:24 Very sad to watch footage of something that LITERALLY WORKS and then to see that thing dismantled permanently basically bc perfectionism.
Vibraphone releases are missing, funnels are wip and soundcheck would take many months to finish
@@user0K "so lets spend even more time to build an entirely new machine with as little soul as possible in the name of perfection" -someone re-inventing the wheel for the 8th time
You forget that traditional instruments don't have the failures that MMX had. While you may be ok with the failures, it's not your machine and you're not the musician/engineer behind it to argue about perfection
@@davinderc Traditional instruments break all the time. Pianos have literally thousands of failure points. The one in my basement has 5 active failures right now (that I know about), and it would take a professional days of work to completely fix them. So what if I can't play the F# below middle C or the bottom two bass notes? So what if the sustain bar doesn't touch work evenly across the deck? Weird buzzing when you play those two keys at the same time? Who cares? I still have a piano that can play music...one that doesn't sound like any other piano in the world, exactly because of the broken bits.
@@davinderc In a sense it's not Martin's either... the viewers paid for it, and many others contributed fabrication - some probably for free. ;)
I wanted Martin to finish his instrument so he could go back to making one of a kind music. When he took breaks and dabbled with other experimental instruments, he made some of his most beautiful work. The machine always felt like an engineering beast he had to slay for him to become an artist again.
The modulin is still something I wish desperately I could try for myself.
Wintergatan: * says he never played music on the second marble machine *
Also Winergatan: * continues to show music he played on the second marble machinne *
In one way i think its nice that you are so humble about your work. But please acknowledge the things you have achieved. You are a great Designer and musician and you can be proud of both your machines and the work you did.
with love
A Fan
He didnt say that, he said he didnt use the actual studio to record anything, like making a serious song utilizing the studio.
It's been such a crazy journey, and at this point I would just love to hear more Wintergatan music. Even if the machine never happens, I would just love to hear your amazing style again.
A second album after 6 years would be nice.
Alright after watching you tear apart the MMX while trash talking it I'll just say it was a nice journey. I've been around here since the original machine.
I wish you luck in your engineering career. Let us know when you're done holding Martin the artist hostage.
100% this. Martin lost his way and forgot what inspired him to build the marble machines at all.
Lets fucking go you nailed it
Thanks for the update! Looking forward to this new chapter whichever direction it takes you!
Hi Torbjörn, feels right to read you here. Like-minded spirits. Love your videos too, cheers!
You have achieved your dream - the mmx toured from France to Sweden!! Congratulations!
Actually it toured from France to Germany (the museum is there in Rüdesheim) but still crossing borders, if thats what you were hinting at ;)
It toured across the entire continent. 😂
😂😂😂😂
“In each little box, there is a dream.” That is so beautiful.
that's probably the most bittersweet episode you've ever put together. I still have the original "moving video" favourited, when you landed in France and demolished the inside of the house to make space for your MMX project. a shame that 4 years later you had to make the decision to go back to Sweden, but I do hope that things look up for you and that another marble machine is in the works soon.
i keep coming back (once every couple of months)to see if anything is happening...or ever will happen.
One of the challenges of design and engineering is the false quest for Perfection over reliability. MMX seems like it is a solid piece of work, despite compromises and flaws. Great instruments have been made for centuries but no one has yet made a perfect instrument. No matter. We musicians use those limitations as discursive parts of the creative process. I hope you return to the MMX to make what music CAN be made with such a grand design. Like the designer, it can't do everything but it can do a lot.
Hope you are doing well Martin! Your journey has been hugely inspiring for my youtube channel, work, and projects. Looking forward to whatever the future holds! -Steven
The friendships on display are as amazing as the machine. All built by Martin.
the fact that you can drive all the way from sweeden to france in literally two days is insane to me. In the US, I live in colorado and have taken trips to new jersey and driving basically non stop that takes 3 days and you guys went through multiple countries within 2 days.
Well, think of the countries of Europe as the states of the US, and it‘s pretty close. Only that Europe is much more densely populated than most of the US (Europe has almost the same area as the US, but more than double the population).
I took 2 days just to cross the state of Bahia - BR
In the name of everyone who lacks interest in live streams and Discord channels: Thanks for the update!!!
Whatever it is you decide to do next, good luck!!! Keep us posted!
I feel bad for the MMX project, I was looking forward to see it on a concert. But its really the music I'm interested on, so I would be there anyway if your ever come touring in Brazil. Cheers.
"we don't need to know how it goes together, just how it goes apart" - Words to live by
I miss the old Videos so much, they were my happy place for so long. It's such a shame it came to an end the way it did. I'll admit I struggle with the new videos, in some ways the magic has gone. Seeing you pack up France does wrench a bit. But Martin you gave so many people so much pleasure and for that thanks. Be well and I hope to see that Martin magic back soon 🙏
So much collaboration happened on this project. Lots of eyes watching it as it progressed then it just suddenly stopped because of a move? Man must be some crazy move.
Martin, i don't know if you'll read this or not, but i hope this period of reflection can give you some peace of mind and hopefully some clarity for when the time comes to making MM III.
More than anything i hope you can see that the machine doesn't need to be perfect. I know you've been so fixated on wanting the machine to not make any mistakes, i think mostly coming from the frustration built up from all the trial an error that came with MMX, but the fact of the matter is that it'll always happen. There exists no machine that will be 100% full proof, and i think the moment you can see that the more you'll feel liberated by the baggage you've been carrying with the MMX.
God speed
I can't be the only one who loves the dynamic between Hannes and Martin. It's like he's the sun to Martin's moon.
Been watching from day-one.
My advice, less Elon muskyness and more Frank Zappa
Exactly!!!
As a long time fan, it feels like such a bittersweet ending for the project. With this video, I hope a lot of the unhappy people in the comments can get some closure, as I did. I love your music and I can’t wait to see what comes next! I hope to be able to see you playing live sooner than later, with or without a marble machine.
Sorry about your father. Congratulations on the the move. A new start in a fresh place. Much love and God bless you.
I have moved many times in my life. Taking apart and packing up a complex music studio like that in just 6 days is very impressive.
''.. stupid sketch ..' ?!? That was the first thing youtube recommended to me about Wintergatan. I'm hooked to your personality, creativity, musicality and your engineering story ever since. Thanks for all the content.
Wishing the best for you and your loved ones. 👍🤩👍
This whole project feels like how a person grows up.
the first Marble machine: The ambitious child. It has so much potential to change the world, but it has to grow up, and understand the world more to make a change
the Marble Machine X: The naive artistic genius: Still keeping up the work to do the best it can. But its so blinded by idealistic world view, though an artist's eyes.
The Marble Machine 3: The Lively Grown Up: After so many fails, it has to learn to view the world how it is, but still keep up the artistic mindset. Trying to make everything good as much as he can. Asking help from other friends, and also uses the tools it gathered over those fails over the years. But this time, it succeeds
I love this
So, as someone who's relatively new to this and has only ever seen the wooden marble machine music video, it seems like a lot of people are providing some level of criticism to this CZcamsr because of the following(?):
- Lots of people funded/donated money for his 2nd machine, the MMX and he ended up never doing anything with it and kinda just abandoned it? (Did he throw them away or something?)
- He became too overly detail-oriented and a perfectionist. Despite the fact that the machine was already working really well, and he simply just didn't want to make any music just because he was obsessed with tiny details when some marbles fell out machine already working really well?
- He doesn't often take the advice of others for better improvements and often misses out on them, and would then later on actually come back to use said improvements that others gave?
- He lost his way when building the marble machine as a means to once use it as an art form and play music with marbles, but is now just an obsessed "engineer" who just aims for perfection and lost his original touch of sight that the machine originally supposed to demonstrate the beauty of a marble machine?
While those are criticisms people are making, the biggest criticism I have is that there's no real closure to the project. I think he was under a lot of pressure, knowing that the machine was far from finished, but having so many people invested in the project - financially, emotionally, and by doing actual work on it. And I think he wanted to get away from it. But he didn't really do a debrief, so it feels like he just abandoned the project and the community.
And then he started on another machine, but that didn't get very far along either.
So basically, I think the issue is a lack of communication. Ideally he would have done a video where he went through his though process and showed people the issues with the machine and answered all the questions - which is kinda, sorta did - but for the most part it feels like he just left. And now the machine has been dismantled.
@@crutherfordmusic that sucks, I remember watching the very old video of the wooden marble machine a few years back and thought that making music with it was extremely cool. And I checked back just these past few weeks, and was confused why the guy never made any actual music with it.
Edit: The machine already works really well despite the imperfections the creator sees? I guess the guy behind the machine wanted to make it too perfect which isn’t really possible? I assume it plays wonderfully already, but I wouldn’t know much.
@@yinlu3610 It does play, but he wanted to take it on tour, and it wasn't reliable enough for that.
@@crutherfordmusic it never was and never will be. icarus was flying too high
He explains that the machine never worked well , it was too unfinished to make music with it as it kept breaking at every turn. His videos were often optimistically showcasing it as working well but the truth is it was just bumming Martin out breaking all the time. I'm not sure about this most recent attempt doing the all-digital design first, except he said often if it doesn't feel like it'll work he'll just stop trying. I assume he's just taking a break from making videos, which he had every right to of course. If he decided or decides to stop entirely, I'll understand and respect that. Dude gave away hours and hours of amazing content for free, inspiring so so many of us. Frickin legend....
"I'm not sure yet if I will make a Marble Machine 3"
ok, that one got an actual lol out of me
Those are some excellent movers they had there. Hauling away two inspiring works of art and a whole music studio, no casualties, for miles on end. Glad they've been paid with pizza.
Oh wow it's been long. Even if I'm not a huge fan of the direction the MMX project has gone in, I'm excited to see what's next
It still just hurts seeing the MMX abandoned like this due to some sense of needing not a single dropped marble, and the direction the MM3 is taking where it's losing so much of the charm and magic of the original and X
Regardless, I wish you the best Martin.
I feel the same.
Martin wants a real life midi program, we the fans want a fancy machine that hits a vibraphone with marbles
Once he started idolizing incompetent do-nothing tyrant union busting emerald mine inheritor Elon Musk... it was all downhill fast.
I hope for a bounce back. Martin is so talented and diligent. I just wish he'd stop building and tearing down and building and tearing down and building and tearing down, and just make something and stick with it.
@@mickys8065 This is the most accuraty description of the situation one can ever give. Thank you for putting it to words.
All the endless time the community has invested....
It woupd the the coolest thing if you just get your friends together and play some music for everyone. That is when you touch people the most. I wish you peace.
I support anything you do, but I agree with everyone else here too. Just one song on the MMX and post it to CZcams. Even the original marble machine song would be so good. I think the machine is more than capable of handling a 5 minute or so performance :)
All the best Martin I’m sure you’ll get there in the end. There’s never a deadline or an obligation we’re just happy to support you with your dream :)
I'm happy to hear you'll more than likely continue on with a new machine and new found knowledge, and I completely understand the move from France. But you owe it to the MMX to make a song on it. Forget about the tour*; forget about perfection. Make a song on it and show it to the world. If not for us viewers, do it for the droves of people who've had a part in it's creation and the sheer artistry it represents. Is it good engineering? Maybe not in the way you want it to be, but it's being displayed in a museum for a reason. It clearly can be used to make music as you've shown on many occasions.
Let it sing before you let it sleep.
*By this I mean forget about needing to tour with the MMX, not doing a world tour in general (new machine or otherwise).
The MMX was so far from being a finished machine, though. Many pieces were provisional, the vibraphone was basically nonexistent, and certain parts of the mechanism wasn't designed to handle what they would be put through in playing the full instrument, if it was finished, or had already broken before the MMX was mothballed.
So, we're probably talking about another 1000+ hours of time invested in a machine that is fundamentally broken, just to get that one track out, and just like with the first marble machine, the song would have very little to do with the actual capabilities of the machine, and more to do with digital production black magic done on a computer. It would be like promising a painting, then showing off a mess of taped-together pieces. It just wouldn't be a marble machine song, but a Frankenstein's Monster of last gasps from the MMX. And, as said, to the tune of another 1000 hours sunk into just repairing and replacing what is broken or missing, not for re-engineering what is fundamentally unsound design.
There's this concept that applies to anything you spend time or money on. It's called a sunk-cost fallacy. Sometimes, throwing more money or time at a project just isn't worth it, because the idea is fundamentally flawed. This is a prime example of when it's time to call it quits, to say "enough is enough" and move on or start over.
Hope the time with your Dad is fulfilling. Best of health to all your family and friends.
This video makes clear what an excellent friend Hannes is. Always there through thick and thin.
Take your time. Build something simple. Make music. Never give up.
Hey Martin, haven’t seen anything from you in a bit, just sending you good wishes for all you’re working on and dealing with, personally and professionally, atm.
This is one of the best Bromances on the internet.
Martin
I had watched you build MMX l felt your ups and downs personally. I know how hard you worked on it. It was a thing of beauty.
Now
It is time to move forward and back to your music 🎶 and more importantly be with your family 👪.
I wish you a good life and good health and now make some beautiful music. Amen and amen.
Life is a struggle. Just never give up ☮️❤️
So great to see you again! I was very sad and frustrated when development of MMX stopped. My girlfriend even asked me why I wasn't watching the «swedish guy» on CZcams every wednesday anymore. I've been with you from the first video in that tiny shed in Sweden where you first installed the CNC (which barely fit), and I've never missed a single wednesday since.
So happy though that you posted an update and are back in sweden even though it is for sad reasons - but I'm hoping this will be a fresh start for you to keep working on your amazing musical inventions. Whether that'd be MMX-T or anything else, I'm patiently waiting for you to be ready - at your own pace!
Showing off everything you have.
I hope no one breaks in.
This reminded me when I had to move my workshop. It made me sad because of all work I had done there, but new chapter is new chapter and new place is new place.
Martin, great to see you happy and enthusiastic again!
Thanks for entertaining and educating us all with the Marble Machine and the Marble Machine X projects and for many years as well with the superb music you created.
Im really sorry for what happened.
i was sad about the whole change in the project video style, because i loved watching the artistic building videos. But with what happened, and the decision to rebuild the machine, its very much understandable. So im excited for the nwe era of the Marble Machine
Thank you for sharing tour journey with us. Such is the project within the project :)
I think this is the first time in my life that I feel jealous of the moving guys that has to carry all the heavy stuff.
Wow, very emotional. During the years you have lived in France my life has also changed 180 degrees basically, and this has just put me back to the time you uploaded the first MMX video!
I'd love to see you develop new music a lot! And, ofc, my dream of seeing a marble machine at **some** point in time hasn't died yet ;)
Man, my favorite video in the whole MMX journey was actually the construction of the France workshop, it was an inspiring video. And to see it dismantled really puts a lid on that chapter and into a new one. Glad to be on this journey again!
Best wishes to you and your new endeavors, Martin!
Sending my love to your Dad & fam. Glad you can be with him
Awesome, that Museum is like 20 minutes away from where I live. Definitely going to visit it soon.
So, I'll confess I was a bit worried when we didn't hear from you for so long Martin, I wondered if you were in a deep depression. But in this video you are so full of smiles, it is very very good to see! Sorry to hear about your dad.
Thank you for the update. You are an amazing craftsman and musician. I look forward to seeing your next project whether it be composition, performance, construction or whatever. You take us on amazing journeys.
Thank you so much for choosing to share your journey with the world, Martin.
Your creativity, positivity and optimism during a time of so much transition and chaos are inspirational.
I have enjoyed for years watching your videos with my children and being awe-inspired by your desire to create something unique and original. You're a one of kind.
From Ontario, Canada - I wish you well in your continued journey !!
Hello Martin,
Great to hear from you, new studio and new haircut, you look so much happier and excited! I also sincerely wish your father well. It's very good for you to have the humility to recognize your mistakes without diminishing your successes. I believe you finally get back to music where your heart beats faster and reaches ours with your songwriting.
Looking forward to joining you on more videos in your new studio. Hugs to you and our dear Hannes =)
In software development you rarely start from scratch. In 99% of cases it's a bad idea, especially if you already have something that works. Building upon it is usually a better way of moving forward. Small improvements vs a revolution with many unforeseen consequences.
And I'm talking about MM here, not MMX. If you decide to build MM3 from scratch as well, you are putting yourself (and your sanity) in great risk.
But most importantly, take a step back, relax, and use this time off to reevaluate your life and your priorities. All the best.
Totally agree. First of all, if you have something and that kindy works. You start to develop it. You grind and grind it, and it still works. At one point you realize, that thing just ain't working and you try to grind it more harder, and you try to add something new to it. This same shit happens every physical and non-physical thing. You made your child so big, that it actually dies away. Shitty examples: altavista, nokia, everything-you-know-15-yrs-ago. If you just keep "developing" and adding more shit on your basic shit, you're gonna die away. Overall, keep it simple when it works, and if it ain't work, keep it still simple.
All the best for you and your Family, especially for your father!
I’m totally stoked to watch your vid! I am one of your biggest fans! (75 yr. old gal & child of the 60’s)🦌💌❤️👍🙏🚙📚
I think with Hannes, you have the absolute best friend in the world. Everytime I see you two my heart melts away.
Im kinda sorry there are no more new videos. I lost the track of the channel and when I returned I saw there is a break. I hope to see Martin again. He is a positive character, albeit a bit sad, but good towards his environment, and very pleasant to listen to. Smart, funny, etc etc. In short, likeable. I wanna be like that too.
We enjoy following your fascinating journey, and want to encourage you to continue sharing your path, wherever it takes you. Keep on sharing!
No place like home, no truer saying. Prayers for your Da buddy!
I hadn’t thought if you in months. But I was made to reflect on my role models today and you made the list. Thank you for recording your journey.
I'm really glad to hear that you are focusing a bit more on creating amazing music again, not that it's not highly entertaining to watch you come up with new ideas and solutions for the MM. I was/worked at the world premiere of Wintergatan at Pipeline, Sundsvall all those years ago and all of your instrumental skills and flow together was awe inspiring because I couldn't had dreamed of anyone using a typewriter to make music. I saw you again when you played at Tonhallen in Sundsvall and you had introduced other weird and fun instruments into your songs and it was equally amazing as the first time. I truly hope that Wintergatan will come back and play here in Sundsvall again at some point because you are one of my favorite bands out there.
How can you make money from one project twice? Just don't finish the first one.
The sheer magnitude of your move and the patience you have with it all gives me confidence on my small move coming up.
I pray that your Dad’s health improves. The fact that you will be close by will be good for both of you. I hope you’re able to get the old band back together. You are all so talented I’m 73 years old and love your music and the production. I loved the this old Tony skit he is a funny man and you two made me laugh. I’m getting old and have 6 stint’s in my heart bedridden. If I had a vote it would be for more music. Best of luck.
I would absolutely love to hear what music has been building up for 4+ years. As a person with a whale project myself, you have my deepest understanding of the love and challenge in the MM series. And I wish you the best, whether that means finishing one or abandoning it.
Keep up the journey my friend! It has been amazing to see your growth as an engineer on full display these past 4+ years. I hope that you are able to realize the dream of a world tour ready marble machine some day and that I am able to attend the concert. Don't give up! You are making the right decision to focus on family and recharge your musical batteries. Please keep posting your process as you are able to. It is always interesting to see the production journey wether musical or engineering.
Thank you for all you have shared with us. I have also been on a journey. I went from being homeless to having a home.
Life can be a Rollercoaster sometimes.. Hope all is well with your father,
Enjoy your new home!
That studio looks awesome and I'm thrilled to hear you'll be making music again. I've been missing new songs from you.
I think it's time for a new modulin, as a tightly-constrained project you can apply form-from-function thinking to and get an instrument you can play without a huge amount of engineering and fabrication time.
Missed you Martin and your crazy life!! Thanks for the update. More will be revealed.....
The future is exciting. Look forward to whatever you make, create and do.
Somebody has money. The machine done yet? No? Ok.
Best wishes! Never stop inspiring others: with your music, your dreams, your life; it's what you do best!
This video made me cry. Start of an era and beginning of a new one.
Starting watching your saga during my Freshman year of college, watched every video and always looked forward to each Wednesday even if the video's didn't always come out then.
Your battles have always been a parallel to my own life.
Now, I'm graduating from school and there's been many SO many hills and valleys but I'm picking up and moving forward.
I remember once I built a robot arm in high school and after much effort, it couldn't move by the day of the competition because the servo's didn't have enough torque.
My partner for the competition was crying because it seemed like such a waste of time to them but I just laughed because I was so proud of what I had built and learned.
I then built another robot arm my Freshman year, it was okay but didn't work great. I also worked incredibly hard on another robot that caught on fire due to the electronics during a competition.
So many projects and efforts that sometimes didn't feel as fruitful as they should have been, but from which I learned so much.
You are not giving up on the MMX, you have built a masterpiece that is an incredible work of engineering and which many people admire.
I don't think you need to prove anything, you have given us so much.
Take what you learned from this project to build something great or move onto something else like music. It's OKAY.
I just hope you share the journey with us all.
Thanks,
A grateful fan of 4 years.
Have to say, huge props to Hannes for the support, he seems like a great friend.
In terms of your machine .. the mixture of engineering and music are not always mutually compatible - take Leo Fender an engineer - they called his guitar a canoe paddle! Then Gibson's Les Paul, a work of art at 3 times the cost to produce. There is no right and wrong but in the end you have to decide - are you a musician first or engineer first. If you are a musician, then do it - and if an engineer - then one rule applies, and I've been there done that for 47 years, you cannot make this machine with 100,000 plus other 'engineers'. No slight on anyone, but history has proved that the more minds involved the less likely a completed result.
Give one man a list from a menu and he'll pick an option eventually, give it to a committee and they'll argue for a month, then ask for another menu
Artist or engineer*, the art is not just music but also form
Crowd sourced design can happen if the lead engineer sets the proper framework and clearly defines the interfaces then allows the sub-engineers freedom to design in their space while they get feedback from the lead engineer. Most engineering projects happen this way. If the MM3 is going to be a success then that is how it will have to be. Martin's growth as an engineer has been on full display these past 4+ years and he has come a long way. I know that I shook my head at many of his decisions early on and most of those poor engineering decisions he has reversed course on and learned through hard fought experience the right way. I still think a marbel machine musical instrument can be produced that is robust enough for a world tour but we will see if martin is happy with it.
So in other words...
"Too many cooks spoil the stew."
Guy builds a machine he can't get out of the door of the room he builds it in, wants to take it on a world tour. Ignores comments telling him machine probably not suitable for worldtour for years. Builds studio in france, decides to move to sweden, builds music studio in sweden. Realizes machine will not work for world tour, starts new machine... Wants to integrate full vibraphone, ignores comments telling him probably not suitable for world tour. The point is reached where I believe nothing will ever get done here ever. But, tbh, I don't care, since I love seeing the process. Martin will never listen to anybody, will keep doing his thing, will keep failing and learning. the latter hopefully.
well. hes certainly going to keep failing.
@@Hephera failing. The man i a genius musician. Has released hundreds of songs with his band. Has a CZcams channel with millions of subs. And makes money to be able to live of it. How is that failing?
Hey Martin! I wanted to say that I think you made a super brave decision. My dad, also a Martin and a music fanatic, passed away four years ago while I was abroad and I wished we succeeded in spending more time together (we weren't that close). The older I get, the more I think that building functional relationships with a few close friends and family members is more meaningful than functional, grand (marble) constructions and ideas. Looking at your community and Hannes, you seem to have done both, but I want you to know that I am truly impressed by, and a bit jealous of, your courage to build in the places that you think are most meaningful.
Four years ago, I started watching this on my lunch breaks as a college student. Now I am a first year PhD student and your content will always have a special place in my heart. I will miss the MMX, but I know now more than ever, it will be done, the mountain will be summited, the dragon will be slain, the world will be toured. I know the pendulum of optimism and cynicism that you talk about. My entire academic career has been this battle of what I think I can and can not do. You’ve helped me through all of that Martin. Keep climbing. Glory is forever my friend. I’ll see you on the world tour.