Maybe I should've explained a bit Cheat servers ban people the moment you don't pass a smell test If they think you're gonna warn others, or mention their cheats got you banned You're booted Me contacting people in their Discord could eventually spook them
@@Kaiff2 I imagined it was more extensive than you showed, it's just funny that the title makes it seem so risky and intense, only for the expanation to be so quick and simple seeming.
Spectating cheaters is probably my new favourite series in this. Really do hope to see it more. A bit sadge that there wasn't facecam to see KIffs reaction to some of these dodges
@@Kaiff2 Honestly if you went to a cheater and went "hey i have this youtube channel and want to record people cheating" i reckon half the time youd get someone whos ego is so high he would agree to it.
Have a look at Scriptkid's videos for CS GO if you haven't already, he made some fake cheat software that would instead make the cheaters throw themselves off buildings etc when it activates. Configured it so the cheaters replays were sent to him, it's great.
@@cheato1163 Funny enough a well known for honor cheater outright accepted an interview and he *sounded* exactly like you would expect. His ego was so fucking large as well lol
Love the sheer gap between what the scripts are doing, and what the players is doing. Scripts can help you dodge skill shots, scripts can't help you when you walk dick first into a fed Jax and Irelia's melee range
05:55 You can buffer your flash while cc'd causing it to go off instantly once the cc ends, the script detected that Hwei had done this and casted the Lux R to where he was gonna end up.
Vanguard would never ban a hacker instantly because then script makers will realize what flagged them and change it and try again. From what I have seen vanguard bans within 2-15 games of when they were first flagged. It probably is more random but I have only seen someone I know get banned like 18 times.
@Yummymarshy Its a trick used by some anticheats to make cheaters and scripters get lured into a false sense of security. And you can probably guess it works pretty well, as they will gaslight themselves as to why they got banned (rather then admit their cheats are not undetectable)
@@convergence1point It is a good way to get hackers out fast. But ban waves are generally better for competitive games. Although if not done randomly(R6) are easy to adapt to. One thing lol does really well is most things are server sided (less strain then a shooter because lol is optimised for that) so hack clients are really restricted in what they can do, like map vision (which is why partical trails like kindred are weird)
@@magic7398 Not really. Humans makes mistakes, you WILL slip up sooner or later when you cheat, just a matter of time. Also, the direct consequence of using cheats is your actual skill will regress because you're strictly relying on programs to play the game for you so over time you'll lose the mechanical skill
It really goes to show that this guy is struggling in iron with *SCRIPTS* Either he gets banned so fast he just cannot climb (don't think thats the case because otherwise your account would be in silver, not iron) Or he just plays on that account to show off the cheats (But even then, he's really bad at showing them off lol)
Looks like the script simply doesn't work for the ult. So the scripter has the mouse at some random place on the screen and trusts the script, leading to completely randomly aimed ults. Even that first ult that hit was just lucky as the enemy flashed into it.
Ruin? Most scripters are easy to deal with unless they are fed. Even 1v1. Just yesterday in a game at bronze acc some scripter started talking sht about how bad i am, offered him 1v1, told him that he can cheat as usual if he wants to. After dying 3d time he said that i was just lucky and left :D The only problem is that huge amount of cheaters makes some champs unplayable, plus it makes some games boring cuz its not fun when your enemy knows your location without wards or uses pesky auto-dodge scripts.
i think its more user error, pretty sure their mashing to run away and the script is trying to do the lux combo because they ult after EVERY E past level 6. the E heads towards the enemy, explodes, then the ult comes out. (wukong decoy moment and jax rando ult towards the minion wave are the best examples.) since the script is aiming the E for them, their mashing to run but its coded to go straight into ult for the combo and thus they ult where their mouse is, not where the enemy is. which is why its aimed away from the enemy in every instance where she misses point blank/shoots for Narnia.
I'm not sure about LoL, but in Dota2 when you spectate someone you can see their mouse movements. Its SUPER cool to watch pro players.... as well as the odd cheater when you see their camera randomly go to a camp that they don't have vision of.
See here's the thing. Some of those dodges are reasonable, not from a standstill in the middle of the hitbox though! Glad to see Vanguard doing something other than crashing my game.
I know nothing about LoL, have absolutely zero idea what's going on here. But it's always fantastic to see cheaters be shit at the games they cheat in, and get banned for cheating
Hey, it did cut down on the amount of cheaters. After all, I'm sure in the hundreds of thousands of players who quit or got their PCs bricked, a cheater or two was in there.
Vanguard did indeed cut down on cheaters by a longshot. I'm in Masters elo where it was MOST prominent. Every 5 games was a cheater in ranked, guaranteed. Thankfully, post vanguard, I haven't seen a single cheater.
Cheating/cheese in single player games is fine unless it's a speedrun or similar. Doing it in multiplayer is just pathetic regardless of reason or method
@@Haz4ler Yea but unfortunately a lot of people would rather take shortcuts than actually improve in something they might actually thrive in, it's sad to see wasted potential in favor of cheating
Sorry to bust your bubble but given the fact that a decent ammount of cheaters was in high elo where u dont just need mechanical skill but also knowledge on a macro level disproofs your statement. also, not so muhc in league but in many other games pros were cought cheating. Most of them are good without cheats.
@@ceadeusx This just screams ragebait as you saw, they all sucked. The reason "cheaters" are in high elo is due to it giving them an unfair advantage...
I wish you would upload more of that kind of content. Its 5:21 a.m for me and i just watched random videos on youtube cause i was bored and couldnt sleep all night long. So i found yours and it made me laugh so much early in the morning xD But what made it even more fun to watch was your laughing to that whole Lux gameplay lol Hope to see and hear more of this :D
i think the wild ults are hes trying to move that direction when the script fires it and he is overriding the mouse direction at just the right time, like the jax at the end it looked like he tried to shoot his skill and run away, and the script was either moving him or he was and the ult was fired. Legit the only reason he is winning games is because the script was dodging so he wasnt taking damage and landing snares, Lux getting OP late game did the rest. the 1 game he couldnt build and got clapped his scripts did nothing for his shoddy skill.
My theory as to why the spells sometimes fly in the complete opposite direction is that he panics, clicks backwards while the scripts are trying to hit the enemies, and since his cursor is for a short time aimed behind him as hes trying to run, it fires the spells that way too. Anyway as a league veteran, very nice vid!
Man, watching a Cait let a Lux get away because their first instinct is to auto, E out of auto range, auto once, then throw out a Q after the two roots are done really hurts
I wonder if the script was trying to "dodge" enemy attacks, and in clicking the mouse elsewhere, it kept messing up their panic ults, sending the ults off in the direction the script wanted the character to move. At least, that's what it looks like to me.
personally i think its the other way around, the script is the one trying to ult in those moments and its the player trying to run away that causes the ult to fire off in the mouse direction. as both times there isnt a skill shot present, cho auto/jax leap. lux fires the opposite way of the targets, where a panicked player would be trying to run/flash to.
the worst thing about cheats like is that you have no idea.. so opponents can actually think that they suck so much, PS - i wonder if hwei velkoz like ability - the orange rip on ground - would evade the script and it would walk into it., or it could be easy to zone
depends on the script and settings. some scripts try to dodge every instance of dmg and some only dodge potentialy deadly abilities. If a scripter is using decent scripts and is not blatant, probably noone in this comment section would be able to tell its a scripter.
My favorite part is the Leagues source code was leaked 2 years ago but Riot didnt update their anti cheat just so they can add Vaguard. Vanguard is a spying software first (especially in asian countries) and a anti cheat maybe 5th lol.
Funny thing is, theoretically, 87ms would be possible, but it's the absolute human limit and only works for instincts. Atheltes have been able to display 87ms on rare occasions, as in, they started running exactly 87ms after the start signal was given. But this only works for tasks you have performed to endlessness basically and I think moving your mouse and clicking is too complex to get to that point, just based on the biological complexity of that task.
Yeah a tiny percent of the population can react at that speed, but it would be in anticipation of something. When it comes to league, often things surprise you. But I agree yeah According to human benchmark, we average around 200ms
@@Kaiff2 Most of the actions done in league are not reactive, because it would give results like 150-200ms reaction time which is very bad. That's why you try to use prior knowledge / prediction to stay in the realm of 30-90ms "reactions"
3:22 There is no such thing as a "fog of war cheat" due to how league works. However, when a skillshot or other is thrown, the script can see it and react to it. It's so fast that it looks like he had vision, but no. It's just what near-perfect automated reaction time looks like.
at minute 10:34 i think lux went into the bush to evade Jhin R, but the bullet hit on akali. Anyway, the script activated and tried to dodge the skill xD
@@Fluffledump He got banned within a certain number of games; they don't automatically to stop detection. They don't want "ok I used this one and that got me banned, but this one didnt (yet)", so people messing around with various scripts are less likely to know which one triggered it.
@@Fluffledumpsometimes they even let certain scripts stay so they can improve their detention. Vanguard will flag but not stop the game or ban. Most anti cheats work this way
you know i hate to think about this, but yesterday we had a vayne yuumi duo and basically vayne had the same movement in emerlad. vanguard rly helped to kill hackers
It looks like the ultimates are not aimed by the script for some reason. Which would explain all the super random ults: the scripter assumed they would hit automatically but instead they aimed at the mouse, and as the scripter didn't even try to aim manually the mouse was at some random place on the screen.
i think the ults and q aimed to narnia is him forcing his mouse to move but the script says "i wanna hit them tho" so the ability scripts tried to cast but his mouse was trying to run away
a former friend of mine did this shit... shot from trash low silver to diamond over night, and a mediocre Rust player to beaming AK with the best of us. Well he ended up completely tanking my Rust clan and I doubt he even play league anymore, if they ban any scripts at all he has been caught it was so blatant
Good scripts have a lot of settings that can be tweaked to make them harder to spot by manual review. The easiest thing most scripters do is don't have the scripts run at all for the first 5-6 minutes. All human control. Why? Because most reviewers will watch the first 5-6 minutes, see they behave normally, and think it isn't a script. There is a lot of what is called "humanizers" in the scripts that allow for all sorts of things. Things like "weighting" on abilities to dodge. You can setup the to prioritize certain actions over others in terms of what they dodge or even land. Really good ones can take into account things like the health of the player, how much they will take, how many enemies are close by, and how many allies are nearby. Some will do what the lux script does by default which is to dodge things at 90 degree perfect parallel angles and then "stop" the avatar once to safety. Others will change that pattern up. They don't always go 90 degrees if another direction can also be safely taken. Others will continue walking the character even after reaching safety until it detects a player input. Humanizers in league scripts have come a very long way in terms of development capabilities in the last 12 years. As for the weird direction of the abilities at times, its because the player is iron. They are using locked camera and are probably using the mini map to move. The player clicked the minimap right at the same time the script is firing an ability. It goes the wrong way because of that.
@@Kaiff2 i will be surprised if you stay in the discord for a long time as i feel like they will eventually catch on. but i could be wrong and i wonder how long you can stay in the discord.😂
When they script its very simple, depending on which suite they have installed (i.e. they've installed the lux script + dodge script + fog of war click script) all they generally do is hold down a button and the champ will auto move in that direction (different buttons for different functions too, so like c is last hit, v is clear wave, space is use abilites and kill champs) and generally dodge can be set to have a priority or ignore non CC skillshots (you're much less likely to be found doing it the second way, sometimes i've come across scripters and my team doesn't believe me, the script will dodge like a Blitz hook in a frame perfect way but wont care about like an Ez Q or something). If anyone has any questions about scripts i can probably answer them Source: i used scripts in custom games with my friends in around 2014 to learn and understand how to catch them. I can spot a scripter pretty much every time i come across one (and most the time they get banned) and the scripts haven't changed much since then.
I just love the karma that someone with scripts is still so hilariously bad and stuck in iron. Not even scripts can help you when you have no idea what you're doing in the first place.
0:16 i'm using this with some champs against cheaters. Pisses them off :) Also found out that some scripters dont auto-dodge if you fire your skillshot when you slightly out of range and they walk into it by themself.
When you have cheats to make you dodge and throw skills like a Master rank. But you still have the skill, map awareness and game sense of a wet plank of wood.
im still stunned locked that I forgot Kaif played league for a while. Ignoring that, was a nice video :), and I'm glad I don't have to deal with this stuff thankfully, haven't had a single one since I started playing over 5 years ago, although maybe I never noticed because they hurt you sometimes more than help xD. Ignoring all that, glad to see you enjoying the mess of a game as it is :), also banger video.
The difference between valorant and league is, and what many low elo players don’t understand: your mechanics doesn’t matter nearly as much as your game understanding. Sure you get some kills with it but kills are not that good anymore to win games, it’s way more about objectives/itemization and map control. I don’t care about a 10:0 lux if she stays all game bot pushing because at some point she’s gonna push too far and no cheats can help her win against 1v3 in most cases. Most people are hardstuck cause they don’t think about the game, just about their champ.
Theres scripts that dodge abiltiies thrown in FOW and ones that track jungle camps dying in FOW but FOW removal is now impossible because it's server sided.
I'm sure he stays in Iron intentionally. High-level players will know when they see someone with an inhuman reaction time, and Iron League players will assume it's a smurf.
@@jovi_skips As many scripters as ive seen. Couldn't tell you. It's probably like the people who put the ADT signs infront of their house when they don't actually have it
they lost so many players uninstalling the game becasue of the vanguard's (chinese spyware) way of operating, running the whole time with no way of just closing it and resume later. for an anticheat that is just as bad as the one Pubg has (its almost a copy no shit) the only difference is that you can just close pupg and the anticheat is gone.
Riot - Adds vanguard Vanguard - Doesnt detect this shit. (UNLESS theyre pulling a Warden and using them to gather information on how the bot acts in the game then slam them w hardware ban)
@@declaringpond2276 Warden does it actively instead of in closed environment - would be good to do both - but id assume thats due to being an always online persistent world.
@@TheDapperDragon no it's not. The reason it's a root kit is to catch the scripts on other hardware, like mice or keyboards. Even then they need to collect data to see what gets by detection and what doesn't. It's a perpetual war until the anti cheat stops being updated
there has been a fair amount of scripters since vanguard and ive yet to see one banned or LP refunded. I guess they straight up lied about that feature. The week before vanguard dropped, every single game had multiple scripters. Even faced a full 5 stack scripters on main accs.
I mean, it might be the weird aim was caused by the script reading where the enemy's click to move position is now and so when he cast it the aim does the assist on it but we all know the enemy is a human so....
i have a question.. sometimes my summoners set back.. i swear i have them up and then fight beginns and they are at cooldown.. also i read people say you can turn scripts on and out and their would be low lvl scripts who others dont recognize because they dont let you shine like a god.
doesn't matter if they are a child or adult Cheaters on an online game are scum especially on esports games (honestly watching cheaters getting caught then banned is as fun as watching hackers hack into a scam call center to get them in trouble by the law)
"He's dodging shit he can't even see" The massive Q animation popping in the middle brush... I guess everyone who ever dodged an Ezreal ult or a Nida Q is a cheater xd It's a *bit* of an exageration no ?
The dodging things only feels THIS crazy because RTS mouse controls really make that much harder than if you had twin stick controls in these games tbf. That's not to excuse cheaters ofc, that cheating in PvP games sucks should go without saying. ;P This is talking more about realizing reactions in time rather than cheaty reaction times in general tbf as well. Dodging is just limited by the ability to perform fast and accurate mouse movements across the screen in this type of game which it isn't with twin-stick style controls where you can multitask movement and aim through multiple devices making *some* of those dodges look less crazy than they are.
I'm only an Emerald player, but even for me this looks so scuffed. Yeah *some* of the dodges and hits he does are better than what happens in my games, but 90% of them are super easy and predictable anyways. And in a lot of situations he's just not throwing them at the right time or holding abilities reactively when he has to. Like if some player is a Fiora player choosing to parry Darius' inner-circle Q over holding it for his ult; it doesn't matter how consistent that player is at executing that plan if it's just not the right idea. He's never gonna improve if he doesn't start working on that strategic and tactical awareness.
this just shows the flaws of the guys script, doesnt detect caitlyn traps, doesnt dodge leona Ult entirely, she always gets slowed still the script misdireting the lux ult, or not directing it at all still getting banned so all in all, not good...
Bit of a late comment.Don't know if you'll see this.I think the reason that he is shooting his r into oblivion whenever there's no one in that direction with all of his sheets on and everything is because the script is trying to get him to run away from an ability and he's trying to use his r
as an old leona main back in the day, predicting idiots is easy. i literally stopped playing support classes and champs in top because your team will never see or react to the game winning plays you make. gnar and leona, every time you get a 5 man stun, and your team doesnt respond at all. makes playing those champs useless as you should play a carry that can do it on your own. blind, 5 man stuns into fog of war witn my ult E Q combo. why play a game when you know iwthout a shadow of a doubt. your team will not respond to the plays you make.
Vanguard, and all anti cheats don't instantly ban you. Either done in waves or at random. Anti cheat software has to get updated and you can't do that if you never gather information.
@@declaringpond2276 Cope. Vanguard was supposed to stop it from being possible. That's why it needs to be always on and kernal level. It's not meant to be a normal anti cheat that catches after the fact.
@@TheDapperDragon that's never what it promised, it can do it, but some will get by. At that point, it's their responsibility for figuring out why and updating it. Like I said, it's a constant battle that only ends once the anti cheat stops being updated. Vanguard did stop most bots, Smurf account prices are back to their pre bot amount. Vanguard also detects cheats that most people would not be able to see, like information cheats, or very minor cheats. It's not perfect, it has problems, but it's a decent solution. Unless you want Korea's strategy's of requiring ID to sign into league, I don't see another way other than enforcing hardware bans(especially when IP bans are useless and in some cases harmful i.e. internet cafes)
I *infiltrated* a cheater server!
The infiltration:
"Hey, can i watch?"
"Sure."
Maybe I should've explained a bit
Cheat servers ban people the moment you don't pass a smell test
If they think you're gonna warn others, or mention their cheats got you banned
You're booted
Me contacting people in their Discord could eventually spook them
@@Kaiff2 I imagined it was more extensive than you showed, it's just funny that the title makes it seem so risky and intense, only for the expanation to be so quick and simple seeming.
@@Kaiff2 I mean if they ever decide to look you up they will prob find this channel and thus this video lol
Clickbait AF
@@Kaiff2 CAP, I am a Scripter and we do not care. No1 Bans you even if you would be a Rioter. No1 CARES
Spectating cheaters is probably my new favourite series in this. Really do hope to see it more. A bit sadge that there wasn't facecam to see KIffs reaction to some of these dodges
Aye i managed to catch these games at 5am spontaneously haha
@@Kaiff2 Aahh. Understandable
@@Kaiff2 Honestly if you went to a cheater and went "hey i have this youtube channel and want to record people cheating" i reckon half the time youd get someone whos ego is so high he would agree to it.
Have a look at Scriptkid's videos for CS GO if you haven't already, he made some fake cheat software that would instead make the cheaters throw themselves off buildings etc when it activates. Configured it so the cheaters replays were sent to him, it's great.
@@cheato1163 Funny enough a well known for honor cheater outright accepted an interview and he *sounded* exactly like you would expect. His ego was so fucking large as well lol
Love the sheer gap between what the scripts are doing, and what the players is doing.
Scripts can help you dodge skill shots, scripts can't help you when you walk dick first into a fed Jax and Irelia's melee range
05:55 You can buffer your flash while cc'd causing it to go off instantly once the cc ends, the script detected that Hwei had done this and casted the Lux R to where he was gonna end up.
Vanguard would never ban a hacker instantly because then script makers will realize what flagged them and change it and try again. From what I have seen vanguard bans within 2-15 games of when they were first flagged. It probably is more random but I have only seen someone I know get banned like 18 times.
@Yummymarshy
Its a trick used by some anticheats to make cheaters and scripters get lured into a false sense of security. And you can probably guess it works pretty well, as they will gaslight themselves as to why they got banned (rather then admit their cheats are not undetectable)
@@convergence1point It is a good way to get hackers out fast. But ban waves are generally better for competitive games. Although if not done randomly(R6) are easy to adapt to.
One thing lol does really well is most things are server sided (less strain then a shooter because lol is optimised for that) so hack clients are really restricted in what they can do, like map vision (which is why partical trails like kindred are weird)
I’m not sure about league but vanguard pretty much instabans you if you get reported on valo.
@@Yummymarshymore games need to be heavily server sided so we don’t get cheats where they just start flying and killing everyone 😅
Which is a crime tbh, people run scripts in ranked and say you win 3 games as a scripted. Your elo is fucked until they get banned for acripting.
Watching a cheater get cooked and a Gangplank get rolled?
Kaif, you're spoiling us
Cheaters have the biggest skill issues
that's why they need cheats xD
But what if a pro player uses cheats? Would he become unstoppable?
@@magic7398 i dont think so, you saw how silly the cheats act sometimes. throwing abilities at legit nothing
@@cameronbittner3728 Yeah, you're right, I was kinda comparing FPS cheats with this, totally different world
@@magic7398 Not really. Humans makes mistakes, you WILL slip up sooner or later when you cheat, just a matter of time. Also, the direct consequence of using cheats is your actual skill will regress because you're strictly relying on programs to play the game for you so over time you'll lose the mechanical skill
I love how for every minute that follows, it just gets worse, lol
It really goes to show that this guy is struggling in iron with *SCRIPTS*
Either he gets banned so fast he just cannot climb (don't think thats the case because otherwise your account would be in silver, not iron)
Or he just plays on that account to show off the cheats (But even then, he's really bad at showing them off lol)
if he just bought a support item, he could've steamrolled all the games 😭😭
Probably just bought accounts tbf
horrible decision making so I think he just genuinely cannot climb even with scripts lol
Or he's really good at showing them. Because in order to make cheats shine, you have to be very bad at the game.
I suspect those whiffed ults are his real aim...
At this point scripting isn't cheating for him... it's literal training wheels lmao.
Looks like the script simply doesn't work for the ult. So the scripter has the mouse at some random place on the screen and trusts the script, leading to completely randomly aimed ults. Even that first ult that hit was just lucky as the enemy flashed into it.
They then proceeded to buy another account for $5 and continued to ruin another 20 games.
Indeed they likely did
Ruin? Most scripters are easy to deal with unless they are fed. Even 1v1.
Just yesterday in a game at bronze acc some scripter started talking sht about how bad i am, offered him 1v1, told him that he can cheat as usual if he wants to. After dying 3d time he said that i was just lucky and left :D
The only problem is that huge amount of cheaters makes some champs unplayable, plus it makes some games boring cuz its not fun when your enemy knows your location without wards or uses pesky auto-dodge scripts.
8:53 Nono it's even funnier! Rumble tried to block the Caitlyn Ult, but Lux ran away :D
I think the reason he smashed the terrain is because cho attacked him as he was about to ult so the script wanted to dodge causing him to turn
i think its more user error, pretty sure their mashing to run away and the script is trying to do the lux combo because they ult after EVERY E past level 6. the E heads towards the enemy, explodes, then the ult comes out. (wukong decoy moment and jax rando ult towards the minion wave are the best examples.) since the script is aiming the E for them, their mashing to run but its coded to go straight into ult for the combo and thus they ult where their mouse is, not where the enemy is. which is why its aimed away from the enemy in every instance where she misses point blank/shoots for Narnia.
“They said theyre using everything” Skill not included in that ey?
i wouldn’t mind seeing kaif making more league of legends content as he’s coming from a lot more of a casual way to the game then most league players
Doesn't matter if it is a kid or an adult, a cheater is a cheater and must be punished.
I'm not sure about LoL, but in Dota2 when you spectate someone you can see their mouse movements. Its SUPER cool to watch pro players.... as well as the odd cheater when you see their camera randomly go to a camp that they don't have vision of.
See here's the thing. Some of those dodges are reasonable, not from a standstill in the middle of the hitbox though! Glad to see Vanguard doing something other than crashing my game.
I know nothing about LoL, have absolutely zero idea what's going on here. But it's always fantastic to see cheaters be shit at the games they cheat in, and get banned for cheating
Glad to see Riot's Vanguard working as intended, lol.
This game was over 2 months ago, and he hasn't played since that time period
Hey, it did cut down on the amount of cheaters.
After all, I'm sure in the hundreds of thousands of players who quit or got their PCs bricked, a cheater or two was in there.
Vanguard did indeed cut down on cheaters by a longshot. I'm in Masters elo where it was MOST prominent. Every 5 games was a cheater in ranked, guaranteed.
Thankfully, post vanguard, I haven't seen a single cheater.
Riot bans are random, otherwise scripters would understand what got detected.
@@Jedimastob1 I'm sure.
Kaif is going on side quests now, and I'm all for it
Cheating/cheese in single player games is fine unless it's a speedrun or similar.
Doing it in multiplayer is just pathetic regardless of reason or method
I love how cheaters are always garbage, if you just learn how to play the game you might just get better
Simple logic
But if they actually didn't suck and had a decent mentality then they wouldn't resort to cheats sadly
@@Haz4ler Yea but unfortunately a lot of people would rather take shortcuts than actually improve in something they might actually thrive in, it's sad to see wasted potential in favor of cheating
@@Haz4ler ironically good players are actually more likely to cheat
Sorry to bust your bubble but given the fact that a decent ammount of cheaters was in high elo where u dont just need mechanical skill but also knowledge on a macro level disproofs your statement. also, not so muhc in league but in many other games pros were cought cheating. Most of them are good without cheats.
@@ceadeusx This just screams ragebait as you saw, they all sucked. The reason "cheaters" are in high elo is due to it giving them an unfair advantage...
Got so tired of waiting for a red screen he went to the cheaters themselves.
No way this guy is scripting, Riot claimed vanguard is perfect!
Its like watching people get gutter balls in bowling while the rails are up.
Kaif just scammed a cheater out of some good content Without encountering them in a game. What a Legend
I wish you would upload more of that kind of content. Its 5:21 a.m for me and i just watched random videos on youtube cause i was bored and couldnt sleep all night long. So i found yours and it made me laugh so much early in the morning xD But what made it even more fun to watch was your laughing to that whole Lux gameplay lol Hope to see and hear more of this :D
Liking and commenting as this is the kind of video that goes big.
i think the wild ults are hes trying to move that direction when the script fires it and he is overriding the mouse direction at just the right time, like the jax at the end it looked like he tried to shoot his skill and run away, and the script was either moving him or he was and the ult was fired. Legit the only reason he is winning games is because the script was dodging so he wasnt taking damage and landing snares, Lux getting OP late game did the rest. the 1 game he couldnt build and got clapped his scripts did nothing for his shoddy skill.
my favorite thing about this is rooting for the enemy team and getting absolutely happy when the cheater loses for sheer stupidity
My theory as to why the spells sometimes fly in the complete opposite direction is that he panics, clicks backwards while the scripts are trying to hit the enemies, and since his cursor is for a short time aimed behind him as hes trying to run, it fires the spells that way too. Anyway as a league veteran, very nice vid!
Man, watching a Cait let a Lux get away because their first instinct is to auto, E out of auto range, auto once, then throw out a Q after the two roots are done really hurts
You gotta love all the abilities being affected by the dodge script's mouse clicks
I wonder if the script was trying to "dodge" enemy attacks, and in clicking the mouse elsewhere, it kept messing up their panic ults, sending the ults off in the direction the script wanted the character to move. At least, that's what it looks like to me.
personally i think its the other way around, the script is the one trying to ult in those moments and its the player trying to run away that causes the ult to fire off in the mouse direction. as both times there isnt a skill shot present, cho auto/jax leap. lux fires the opposite way of the targets, where a panicked player would be trying to run/flash to.
scripter most likely wasnt even playing and just clicking randomly and toggling nonstop.
I feel bad for genuine iron and new players, knowing so little they dont even know what to look for to tell of there's a scripter.
the worst thing about cheats like is that you have no idea.. so opponents can actually think that they suck so much, PS - i wonder if hwei velkoz like ability - the orange rip on ground - would evade the script and it would walk into it., or it could be easy to zone
depends on the script and settings. some scripts try to dodge every instance of dmg and some only dodge potentialy deadly abilities. If a scripter is using decent scripts and is not blatant, probably noone in this comment section would be able to tell its a scripter.
@@ceadeusx they can set it to prioritize lethal abilities. I faced a jin who you could force to move into other abilities if you ulted next to him
My favorite part is the Leagues source code was leaked 2 years ago but Riot didnt update their anti cheat just so they can add Vaguard.
Vanguard is a spying software first (especially in asian countries) and a anti cheat maybe 5th lol.
Having Google chrome is more Spyware than anything else lmao
Funny thing is, theoretically, 87ms would be possible, but it's the absolute human limit and only works for instincts. Atheltes have been able to display 87ms on rare occasions, as in, they started running exactly 87ms after the start signal was given. But this only works for tasks you have performed to endlessness basically and I think moving your mouse and clicking is too complex to get to that point, just based on the biological complexity of that task.
Yeah a tiny percent of the population can react at that speed, but it would be in anticipation of something.
When it comes to league, often things surprise you.
But I agree yeah
According to human benchmark, we average around 200ms
@@Kaiff2 Most of the actions done in league are not reactive, because it would give results like 150-200ms reaction time which is very bad.
That's why you try to use prior knowledge / prediction to stay in the realm of 30-90ms "reactions"
Least toxicity I've seen in a League video lmao
17:35 Maybe the script there was like "okay, death incoming, get as much possible gold before end, ULT MINIONS"
3:22 There is no such thing as a "fog of war cheat" due to how league works. However, when a skillshot or other is thrown, the script can see it and react to it. It's so fast that it looks like he had vision, but no. It's just what near-perfect automated reaction time looks like.
First Tiktok scripter I ever watched had a fog of war cheat :P
Account really didn't last long though
at minute 10:34 i think lux went into the bush to evade Jhin R, but the bullet hit on akali. Anyway, the script activated and tried to dodge the skill xD
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Without their cheats, they really do just suck at the game.
I have actually played against that person quite a few times, granted it wasn't ranked but pretty funny to see the confirmation on that.
I love installing kernel level spyware just so that scripters can still ruin ppls games
So you're telling me you spectated this guy for multiple games, and Vanguard didn't trigger? What a fucking joke riot games actually is
Ban waves are better than instant bans, it makes it difficult for cheat makers to know why it was detected
@@allesarfint vanguard is supposed to stop the game instantly, that's the whole point no?
@@Fluffledump He got banned within a certain number of games; they don't automatically to stop detection. They don't want "ok I used this one and that got me banned, but this one didnt (yet)", so people messing around with various scripts are less likely to know which one triggered it.
@@JakeSPuwuowo69 ah ok, that's fair enough! I genuinely thought vanguard just shut the game down as soon as scripts were detected. The more you know!
@@Fluffledumpsometimes they even let certain scripts stay so they can improve their detention. Vanguard will flag but not stop the game or ban. Most anti cheats work this way
you know i hate to think about this, but yesterday we had a vayne yuumi duo and basically vayne had the same movement in emerlad. vanguard rly helped to kill hackers
11:33 AKALI SIDESTEPPED HER OWN LUX'S ULT AND DIES TO JHIN FLOWER 😂
It looks like the ultimates are not aimed by the script for some reason. Which would explain all the super random ults: the scripter assumed they would hit automatically but instead they aimed at the mouse, and as the scripter didn't even try to aim manually the mouse was at some random place on the screen.
League content on kaif's channel? I was not expecting that.
the "ult to no one" were both around the same angle
i think the ults and q aimed to narnia is him forcing his mouse to move but the script says "i wanna hit them tho" so the ability scripts tried to cast but his mouse was trying to run away
a former friend of mine did this shit... shot from trash low silver to diamond over night, and a mediocre Rust player to beaming AK with the best of us.
Well he ended up completely tanking my Rust clan and I doubt he even play league anymore, if they ban any scripts at all he has been caught it was so blatant
9:51 is a perfect example of a cheater
Thats why players that at least know the basics of the game floods Gold, and plat with this shit.
Good scripts have a lot of settings that can be tweaked to make them harder to spot by manual review. The easiest thing most scripters do is don't have the scripts run at all for the first 5-6 minutes. All human control. Why? Because most reviewers will watch the first 5-6 minutes, see they behave normally, and think it isn't a script. There is a lot of what is called "humanizers" in the scripts that allow for all sorts of things. Things like "weighting" on abilities to dodge. You can setup the to prioritize certain actions over others in terms of what they dodge or even land. Really good ones can take into account things like the health of the player, how much they will take, how many enemies are close by, and how many allies are nearby. Some will do what the lux script does by default which is to dodge things at 90 degree perfect parallel angles and then "stop" the avatar once to safety. Others will change that pattern up. They don't always go 90 degrees if another direction can also be safely taken. Others will continue walking the character even after reaching safety until it detects a player input. Humanizers in league scripts have come a very long way in terms of development capabilities in the last 12 years.
As for the weird direction of the abilities at times, its because the player is iron. They are using locked camera and are probably using the mini map to move. The player clicked the minimap right at the same time the script is firing an ability. It goes the wrong way because of that.
a little late, this terrain ult backwards from lux probably was reason of script wanting to dodge chos E
"Infiltrated" = Joined for free.
Still not banned from the discord 😏
@@Kaiff2 Part 2 incoming xD
@@Kaiff2 i will be surprised if you stay in the discord for a long time as i feel like they will eventually catch on. but i could be wrong and i wonder how long you can stay in the discord.😂
Even without fog of war she would dodge that fast, the script can recognize friendly/enemy animations if there are no duplicate champions
When they script its very simple, depending on which suite they have installed (i.e. they've installed the lux script + dodge script + fog of war click script) all they generally do is hold down a button and the champ will auto move in that direction (different buttons for different functions too, so like c is last hit, v is clear wave, space is use abilites and kill champs) and generally dodge can be set to have a priority or ignore non CC skillshots (you're much less likely to be found doing it the second way, sometimes i've come across scripters and my team doesn't believe me, the script will dodge like a Blitz hook in a frame perfect way but wont care about like an Ez Q or something).
If anyone has any questions about scripts i can probably answer them
Source: i used scripts in custom games with my friends in around 2014 to learn and understand how to catch them. I can spot a scripter pretty much every time i come across one (and most the time they get banned) and the scripts haven't changed much since then.
At 6:00, I'm pretty sure the Hwei had the F queued up but he couldn't flash because of the root. The script still knew he queue'd it though
I feel like the funniest part is this guy feels like he needs scripts on *Lux*, arguably one of the easiest champions you can play.
I just love the karma that someone with scripts is still so hilariously bad and stuck in iron. Not even scripts can help you when you have no idea what you're doing in the first place.
0:16 i'm using this with some champs against cheaters. Pisses them off :)
Also found out that some scripters dont auto-dodge if you fire your skillshot when you slightly out of range and they walk into it by themself.
When you have cheats to make you dodge and throw skills like a Master rank.
But you still have the skill, map awareness and game sense of a wet plank of wood.
love hearing the welsh accent in vids so much
17:35 that literally was a r on the wave xd
im still stunned locked that I forgot Kaif played league for a while. Ignoring that, was a nice video :), and I'm glad I don't have to deal with this stuff thankfully, haven't had a single one since I started playing over 5 years ago, although maybe I never noticed because they hurt you sometimes more than help xD.
Ignoring all that, glad to see you enjoying the mess of a game as it is :), also banger video.
The difference between valorant and league is, and what many low elo players don’t understand: your mechanics doesn’t matter nearly as much as your game understanding. Sure you get some kills with it but kills are not that good anymore to win games, it’s way more about objectives/itemization and map control. I don’t care about a 10:0 lux if she stays all game bot pushing because at some point she’s gonna push too far and no cheats can help her win against 1v3 in most cases. Most people are hardstuck cause they don’t think about the game, just about their champ.
17:33 I think the script was trying to ult the wave before she died
Theres scripts that dodge abiltiies thrown in FOW and ones that track jungle camps dying in FOW but FOW removal is now impossible because it's server sided.
I'm sure he stays in Iron intentionally. High-level players will know when they see someone with an inhuman reaction time, and Iron League players will assume it's a smurf.
Everytime I see one of Kaifs cheater hunting vids pop up I know I'm gonna have a good day
Immune to skillshots, and still iron 2.
That's honestly impressive.
vanguard is a joke lmao
League uses vanguard?
@@jovi_skips As many scripters as ive seen. Couldn't tell you. It's probably like the people who put the ADT signs infront of their house when they don't actually have it
they lost so many players uninstalling the game becasue of the vanguard's (chinese spyware) way of operating, running the whole time with no way of just closing it and resume later. for an anticheat that is just as bad as the one Pubg has (its almost a copy no shit) the only difference is that you can just close pupg and the anticheat is gone.
Riot - Adds vanguard
Vanguard - Doesnt detect this shit.
(UNLESS theyre pulling a Warden and using them to gather information on how the bot acts in the game then slam them w hardware ban)
That's how all anti cheats work, no point in banning if you let the scripters write better code.
@@declaringpond2276 Warden does it actively instead of in closed environment - would be good to do both - but id assume thats due to being an always online persistent world.
@@declaringpond2276 Except Vanguard is meant to stop it before it happens. That's why it's always on and invasive as a tick.
@@TheDapperDragon no it's not. The reason it's a root kit is to catch the scripts on other hardware, like mice or keyboards. Even then they need to collect data to see what gets by detection and what doesn't. It's a perpetual war until the anti cheat stops being updated
Vanguard for this
Cheaters are disgusting.
JUST GET GUD
I thought Vanguard was supposed to do something other than provide the Chinese state a backdoor into my PC?
What is up with supports taking TP this season? I've been seeing it in EMERALD GAMES... Am I just out of touch, or is it complete shit?
there has been a fair amount of scripters since vanguard and ive yet to see one banned or LP refunded. I guess they straight up lied about that feature. The week before vanguard dropped, every single game had multiple scripters. Even faced a full 5 stack scripters on main accs.
I mean, it might be the weird aim was caused by the script reading where the enemy's click to move position is now and so when he cast it the aim does the assist on it but we all know the enemy is a human so....
i have a question.. sometimes my summoners set back..
i swear i have them up and then fight beginns and they are at cooldown..
also i read people say you can turn scripts on and out and their would be low lvl scripts who others dont recognize because they dont let you shine like a god.
there is humanizers for most cheats in any game now. Where it smooths out the animation. CSGO pros have been caught using it.
@@seterseter9352 i also noticed it since last year. But no vid is mention it.
doesn't matter if they are a child or adult Cheaters on an online game are scum especially on esports games (honestly watching cheaters getting caught then banned is as fun as watching hackers hack into a scam call center to get them in trouble by the law)
"He's dodging shit he can't even see"
The massive Q animation popping in the middle brush...
I guess everyone who ever dodged an Ezreal ult or a Nida Q is a cheater xd
It's a *bit* of an exageration no ?
I wonder if those weird Lux ults are the script bugging out when they queue multiple abilities
Vanguard really making a difference here.
The dodging things only feels THIS crazy because RTS mouse controls really make that much harder than if you had twin stick controls in these games tbf. That's not to excuse cheaters ofc, that cheating in PvP games sucks should go without saying. ;P
This is talking more about realizing reactions in time rather than cheaty reaction times in general tbf as well. Dodging is just limited by the ability to perform fast and accurate mouse movements across the screen in this type of game which it isn't with twin-stick style controls where you can multitask movement and aim through multiple devices making *some* of those dodges look less crazy than they are.
I'm only an Emerald player, but even for me this looks so scuffed. Yeah *some* of the dodges and hits he does are better than what happens in my games, but 90% of them are super easy and predictable anyways. And in a lot of situations he's just not throwing them at the right time or holding abilities reactively when he has to. Like if some player is a Fiora player choosing to parry Darius' inner-circle Q over holding it for his ult; it doesn't matter how consistent that player is at executing that plan if it's just not the right idea. He's never gonna improve if he doesn't start working on that strategic and tactical awareness.
this just shows the flaws of the guys script,
doesnt detect caitlyn traps,
doesnt dodge leona Ult entirely, she always gets slowed still
the script misdireting the lux ult, or not directing it at all
still getting banned
so all in all, not good...
"people dont script in iron" *presents this video*
Bit of a late comment.Don't know if you'll see this.I think the reason that he is shooting his r into oblivion whenever there's no one in that direction with all of his sheets on and everything is because the script is trying to get him to run away from an ability and he's trying to use his r
Your honor, League of Legends.
10:03 Poor Teemo D:
Kaif doing gods work
scripting is just putting a bandaid over a severed arm. like if you’re stuck in iron even after scripting its just a matter of massive skill issue
as an old leona main back in the day, predicting idiots is easy.
i literally stopped playing support classes and champs in top because your team will never see or react to the game winning plays you make.
gnar and leona, every time you get a 5 man stun, and your team doesnt respond at all.
makes playing those champs useless as you should play a carry that can do it on your own.
blind, 5 man stuns into fog of war witn my ult E Q combo.
why play a game when you know iwthout a shadow of a doubt. your team will not respond to the plays you make.
I thought vanguard fixed this shit lel
Vanguard, and all anti cheats don't instantly ban you. Either done in waves or at random. Anti cheat software has to get updated and you can't do that if you never gather information.
@@declaringpond2276 Cope. Vanguard was supposed to stop it from being possible. That's why it needs to be always on and kernal level.
It's not meant to be a normal anti cheat that catches after the fact.
@@TheDapperDragon that's never what it promised, it can do it, but some will get by. At that point, it's their responsibility for figuring out why and updating it. Like I said, it's a constant battle that only ends once the anti cheat stops being updated.
Vanguard did stop most bots, Smurf account prices are back to their pre bot amount. Vanguard also detects cheats that most people would not be able to see, like information cheats, or very minor cheats.
It's not perfect, it has problems, but it's a decent solution. Unless you want Korea's strategy's of requiring ID to sign into league, I don't see another way other than enforcing hardware bans(especially when IP bans are useless and in some cases harmful i.e. internet cafes)