Cone vs. Flat Bottom Coffee Filters: Is there a difference?
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- čas přidán 9. 09. 2020
- Coffee Kevin shares his opinions of both cone and flat bottom filters. This seemingly endless controversy among drip coffee enthusiasts seems ongoing. Is one truly superior to the other? Kevin brews two otherwise identical drip coffee batches using each filter simultaneously and then tastes and gives his comparative tasting notes.
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Finally! I've been looking for a comparison between flat and cone all over and you're the only one who made an in-depth comparison. Thank you so much!
You're very welcome! Thanks for your note.
Me too.
Finally! 🤎
I enjoyed listening to you talk. I like hearing about the history and stories. Thank you for making these videos!
My pleasure! Glad you enjoyed them!
Great information! I love how you explained the history and gave detail to what you noticed the tastes to be. I’m 21 and I personally loved having you as my teacher.
Thank you, RickyNotRichard.
Thank you. I'm honored. Coffee Kevin
Such a great and informative video, I'm from Central America and decided to get into coffee just recently, I used a kinda cheap coffee maker that fitted both types of filters and noticed what was said in this video but still wanted to find more info online. Thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge with us
Thank you for your comment. It is my pleasure. I hope my videos help inform, but mostly I wish to inspire. Warmest regards, Coffee Kevin
wow, thank you!
Thank you!
Ok, I think I'll have to try both. I have a cone drip maker with paper filters for three years now. I was thinking to buy another one of a bigger size, and since there is a difference in taste, I'll order a flat drip c-maker. And another 500 paper filters pack :)
Thanks for this- I choose the filer based on the coffee pot design and choose the best quality filer I can get.
Sir, that is a great point. The filter has as much to do with the end resulting taste as the other aspects.
I like this guy very informative
Thank you.
My current paper filter now is somewhat on the thinner side compare to the original hario paper filter. My problem is that the draw down seems fast. Is it okay if i use two filters?
Doesn’t hurt to experiment
Thank you for your comment and question. Yes, it's find to use two, but keep an eye on your contact time totals. Prolonging the extraction time (especially beyond 6 minutes) can cause bitterness and overextraction. If you're using the Hario V60, it is optimized and all testing was no doubt performed using their filters. All these companies operate on a shaver and razor blade economic model. My recommendation is to cooperate if you can. Another solution is to grind finer, which may or may not produced equivalent results.
@@Coffeeists thank you for the response! I tried to grind it finer leads me to atleast 3mins of brewing time.
@@Ruby-sy7tr you're heading in the right direction. 3 minutes is roughly a minute short of the industry spec of 4-6 minutes. However, the goal is to make it taste how you like it. Don't hesitate to keep us abreast of your trials and results.
I don't know why I like this guy. Im much younger that him , would love to him as my teacher and friend! Hope you get more subscribers and money here Kevin!
Thank you, Wery! Very nice comment. I appreciate it. Warmly, Kevin
He reminds me of Mr. Rogers
Good video....and I got to agree....Flat bottoms are light in body and bit sweet...,cone filters are bit stronger to taste ....I guess both are good in their own right...
Thank you, Sir.
I got a cone recently after having a flat bottom for a really long time and I feel the cone is more acidic and not in a good way. It over takes the rest of the flavors
Interesting thought. I'll have to do some more tasting to see if I get that. Certainly, like a traffic merge, it slows and prolongs contact time at the tip.
luvly ☕️
Thank you!
Now I know that Bonavita is Melitta!
Just to update this a bit, it is my understanding that a second manufacturing source was needed to produce the flat-bottomed filter Bonavita coffee makers, who then went on to make both types. Perhaps the most accurate way to say it is Bonavita's first run were made by Melitta, who also has made some subsequent ones. Warm regards, Kevin
Fantastic review, and I loved the background history too!
Didn't care much for the slurpin' though. It is in the same category as cussin' in my humble opinion. But that is for another discussion.
Thanks for the notes. I'll see what I can do. As I'm working on a series of coffee tastings, it might get worse. Please don't mistake that for arrogance on our parts. Not sure how to reduce it.
@@Coffeeists dainty sips, with a bib of course, will suffice.
He is using the WRONG devices. The water will flow through too fast and into the jug BEFORE each particle of ground coffee has been infused in the hot water for long enough - so you are likely to get a very uneven brew. All the particles need around 3 to 4 minutes to infuse correctly. This is achieved using a French Press ... simples!
When demonstrating a comparison of each brew, ALWAYS use clear glass mugs - obviously! The presenter can shine a torch behind each glass and the different strengths will be visible. This is basic stuff. The gentleman is trying to convey the taste of each method to the viewer - taste is personal and varies from person to person. As they say in the movies: "Move on, nothing to see, hear or taste here."
Thank you for your comments. I don't agree that shining a light through glass tells is particularly helpful in explaining the taste. That said, you may enjoy our new in-production tasting series as we will use glass to taste. Taste is quite personal, as you say.
@@Coffeeists I didn't say the light test indicates taste - although the stronger the brew, then the stronger the flavour. The viewer of this video cannot experience the taste (obviously) but by using a light behind a clear glass mug containing the brew is just one way of aproximating how much of the actual coffee has infused into the hot water - relatively speaking of course! I often use the bright-light test when comparing different brewing methods, it's quick and easy. If the light is in fact visible behind a full glass, then I know the brew is too weak for my liking.