Don't Buy Heroes of Might and Magic 3: HD Edition

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  • čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
  • Heroes of Might and Magic III: HD Edition was advertised as an improved version of the original Heroes 3, but in reality has major drawbacks. Here's my review (of sorts) and why I don't recommend it - including a comparison with HoMM3 Complete Edition.
    ⭐ Recommended: Buy Heroes 3 Complete Edition at GOG.com*: af.gog.com/game/heroes_of_mig...
    *Note: As a GOG affiliate, purchases through this link support the channel via commission at no added cost to you. This video was scripted/recorded before I became an affiliate.
    ⭐ HDE mod for HD Edition (Steam Community): steamcommunity.com/app/297000...
    ⭐ HDE mod Github page: github.com/potmdehex/homm3too...
    Chapters
    00:00 Intro
    00:47 Expansions
    02:04 HD Edition vs Complete Edition
    02:39 Armageddon's Blade
    04:14 Shadow of Death
    04:49 On Steam Achievements
    05:54 HD Edition vs original game
    08:00 HD Edition vs HD mod comparison
    08:54 Multiplayer (PvP Online Lobby)
    09:21 Horn of the Abyss fan expansion
    10:49 Other mods
    11:06 HDE mod
    12:19 Worth It?
    Featured playthroughs:
    ⭐ Ascension (HD Edition gameplay): • Heroes of Might and Ma...
    ⭐ Forge mod playthrough: • Heroes 3: FORGE TOWN M...
    ⭐ The Great Wasteland (Horn of the Abyss): • Heroes 3: THE GREAT WA...
    Complete Edition Mods:
    ⭐ Horn of the Abyss (HotA): h3hota.com/en/documentation
    ⭐ HD mod (quality of life improvements, resolution and bug fixes): sites.google.com/site/heroes3hd/
    ⭐ SoD_SP addon for HD mod: docs.google.com/document/d/1J...
    Music by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
    Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License
    creativecommons.org/licenses/b...
    #homm3 #heroes3 #heroesofmightandmagic
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Komentáře • 438

  • @Norovo
    @Norovo  Před 11 měsíci +72

    Useful links:
    ⭐ Heroes 3 Complete Edition at GOG.com*: af.gog.com/game/heroes_of_might_and_magic_3_complete_edition?as=1673737379
    *Note: As a GOG affiliate, purchases through this link support the channel via commission at no added cost to you. This video was scripted/recorded before I became an affiliate.
    ⭐ HDE mod for HD Edition (Steam Community): steamcommunity.com/app/297000/discussions/0/604941528472210055/
    ⭐ HDE mod Github page: github.com/potmdehex/homm3tools/releases/tag/1.22
    Featured playthroughs:
    ⭐ Ascension (HD Edition gameplay): czcams.com/video/hGW_Pis4b0I/video.html
    ⭐ Forge mod playthrough: czcams.com/video/87PcIps1SAk/video.html
    ⭐ The Great Wasteland (Horn of the Abyss): czcams.com/video/vHwiF2Q9bAY/video.html
    Complete Edition Mods:
    ⭐ Horn of the Abyss (HotA): h3hota.com/en/documentation
    ⭐ HD mod (quality of life improvements, resolution and bug fixes): sites.google.com/site/heroes3hd/
    ⭐ SoD_SP addon for HD mod: docs.google.com/document/d/1JlQ6TC97d_Bb1g_sDRpxTvkKHtyXgZ3qORG5LJS8tp8/edit#

    • @mykiBoy
      @mykiBoy Před 11 měsíci +1

      what microphone do you use for recording these videos?

    • @Norovo
      @Norovo  Před 10 měsíci

      The narration for this was mostly recorded a long time ago so I'm not certain which mic I used, but probably my old Rode NT-USB. I use a Shure SM7B now.

    • @mykiBoy
      @mykiBoy Před 10 měsíci

      that's interesting you had the audio recorded long ago for a video just released 2weeks ago. would be happy to see a video or blog from you about your production process.

    • @Microphunktv-jb3kj
      @Microphunktv-jb3kj Před 10 měsíci +1

      ah... well i have Complete Edition, not HD..
      there's some HD launcher mod or smt, and HotA expansiuon... HD Edition from Steam is pointless indeed...

    • @SliderHarDCorE
      @SliderHarDCorE Před 9 měsíci +1

      Nice video, but you forgot to mention any version of the most important fan-made expansion for Homm3 complete, which started developing since year 2001 - WoG which later was renamed to Era in mid 2010's !!! That mod/expansion started it all and made it possible for later ones (like HD and Hota) to exist. Also in it''s long "life" made more and most significant improvements and innovations to our beloved HoMM3 than all of the other mods combined !

  • @nataliep6385
    @nataliep6385 Před 11 měsíci +223

    Keep in mind that the creators of HOMM3 doesn't get money if we spend money on buying it.. They sold the company a long time ago :)

    • @NotEvenDeathCanSaveU
      @NotEvenDeathCanSaveU Před 11 měsíci +37

      yarrrrr? :)

    • @voszvaivaldtkoszikovokh6418
      @voszvaivaldtkoszikovokh6418 Před 11 měsíci +22

      Arrrrghhhhh

    • @F0nkyNinja
      @F0nkyNinja Před 11 měsíci +7

      No, they went bankrupt in 2003. The company was called 3DO btw, they also did the Army Men series.

    • @nataliep6385
      @nataliep6385 Před 11 měsíci +47

      @@F0nkyNinja What i'm trying to say is that, if we buy the game today, NONE of the money goes to any of the creators. :)
      So who cares if we pirate the game..
      If it actually went to the creators of the game, i'd buy the game in a heartbeat.

    • @sathrielsatanson
      @sathrielsatanson Před 11 měsíci +30

      Yeah, Might and Magic franchise being bought by Ubisoft is one of the worst things that could happen.

  • @kubzer0
    @kubzer0 Před 11 měsíci +348

    The worst thing about "improved" graphics and portraits is that it wouldn't even take that much time or money to do it properly.

    • @RiskOfBaer
      @RiskOfBaer Před 11 měsíci +68

      Also with how they all look it's very obvious they used AI upscaling for all of it, and with how some of it looks very off it's also very obvious that they literally just left them as is without doing manual edits most of the time. Very few art assets look and feel like they've been touched by an actual artist and not a computer program. There is nothing wrong with using a program to make your job easier of course, but simply taking whatever it spits out without giving it the final human touch it needs is pure laziness.
      People use AI upscaling to make HD mods for video games, and they do it FOR FREE. HD Edition is essentially a mod that you have to pay for, which is also standalone for some reason and doesn't work with the version of the game everybody plays. This is why it is considered a cash grab.

    • @DaddyMouse
      @DaddyMouse Před 11 měsíci +31

      @@RiskOfBaer the HD edition was made before AI upscaling became mainstream (or good)
      They even shown some of the behind the scenes and the work was made manually

    • @spiderjerusalem8505
      @spiderjerusalem8505 Před 11 měsíci

      @@RiskOfBaer, nah, pretty sure it was all manual labour, which somehow makes it even worse, lmao

    • @Xazamas
      @Xazamas Před 11 měsíci +24

      @@DaddyMouse If that is true, all "manual work" was probably outsourced to the cheapest sweatshop in Malaysia. I don't intent on dismissing skill/talent/artistry of Malaysian people, just trying to argue that when you are paid peanuts (326,43 dollars is the official monthly minimum wage according to google, I assume they have 12 hour workdays and/or massive crunch) to be a cog in a machine churning out minimum viable products to satisfy foreign clients, you probably aren't producing the best results.
      Further reading: "How Game Publishers Buy Crunch Overseas" by People Make Games
      EDIT: They probably had an actual well-paid artist do the Hydra, as the process was released in the form of "Speed Painting" for marketing purposes. I still hold that every other asset was likely dumped to overseas sweatshop(s) that may or may not be located in Malaysia.

    • @zergilli9719
      @zergilli9719 Před 11 měsíci +3

      ​@@DaddyMouseyea thats right. theres videos of them doing it manually that they showed.

  • @Wanderer042
    @Wanderer042 Před 11 měsíci +96

    Thank goodness of GOG and the Horn of the Abyss Expansion, I loved this game since I was 17, and now at the age of 35. I am glad there is a community here that keeps it alive. I one time thought of buying the Steam HD version but I remember Total Biscuit said it best: " Go buy the GOG version and you'll not regret it, there is even a mod expansion, do not waste your time with it".

    • @Mistted
      @Mistted Před 8 měsíci +1

      What's the "GOG" version? Didn't understand it :D

    • @giulio7853
      @giulio7853 Před 7 měsíci +7

      GOG stands for Good Old Games. They sell old games, with patches and fixes if possible.

    • @giulio7853
      @giulio7853 Před 7 měsíci +2

      They sell newer games too.

    • @Dagoth666Ur
      @Dagoth666Ur Před 7 měsíci +4

      I prefer WoG over the Horn, but that`s also very good expansion.

    • @sdhflkjshdfskdhfskljdhf582
      @sdhflkjshdfskdhfskljdhf582 Před 7 měsíci

      @@giulio7853 They rebranded a while ago and it's just been 'GOG' for years actually. I mean, who cares, and not the best move, but yeah they're the best alternative to steam, for new releases as well. No EGS or EA or whatever megacorpo data-grab, fair to call them 'steam's hippie little sister', with both the positives and negatives that entails.

  • @zlosliwa_menda
    @zlosliwa_menda Před 11 měsíci +202

    It never ceases to amaze me how these giant corporations with huge resources and access to talented employees of their choosing often can't even make a proper remaster or remake. You'd think that if there is one thing they'd be good at it would be churning out uninspired, but well-polished and consistent products that follow an already established formula. But most of the time they can't even do that.

    • @NotEvenDeathCanSaveU
      @NotEvenDeathCanSaveU Před 11 měsíci

      Its corporatism inspired by the small greedy gremlins maximizing the profit and investing absolute minimum they can get away with. So attention to detail and authenticity and completeness goes out the window in that case. Its the companies that would go under right away if people were well educated and less ignorant. Uneducated uncultured people always have low standards and that's where the society is going so thats what we get unfortunately. Its become so bad over the years that actual fans of these franchises would do many times better job for free if they got the source code.

    • @andrzejnadgirl2029
      @andrzejnadgirl2029 Před 11 měsíci +13

      Well, remasters are definition of the cash grab, from corporation perspective it's has to be done as cheap as possible to maximize profit and make shareholders happy so they can't accuse CEO of wasting money on project that will easily cash in anyway.
      Even failures like Reforged made a net profit, nostalgia is hell of a drug so there is often just no point from their perspective to put any effort.
      In case of HoMM3 they missed the spot of being greedy enough but I'm sure it made some money anyway despite the fans outcry though definitely not as much as anticipated.

    • @sathrielsatanson
      @sathrielsatanson Před 11 měsíci +3

      Nah, nah, they can't they just don't want to. Remakes are usually a quick cashgrab that provides the ability to make some money for minimal effort. It can be done properly as shown by Capcom or Square Enix but usually it isn't.

    • @ElfosDeMordor
      @ElfosDeMordor Před 10 měsíci +3

      @andrzejnadgirl2029 ur mentality is wrong though. This kills the company image which is more important in the long run

    • @pimc172
      @pimc172 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Did you watch the video? Steam doesn't have a proper version but GOG has. Greatest game of all times imho.

  • @GreetTheSacredCow
    @GreetTheSacredCow Před 11 měsíci +187

    The more people know to avoid HD Edition, the better. Excellent video.

    • @devapath8951
      @devapath8951 Před 28 dny

      Ok, but I hope the purpose of this video is to explain that u can get much more with H3 Complete edition togheter with HD and other mods. For non-hardcore players should be Heroes 3: HD Edition on steam/uplay good enough.

  • @Szafirprince
    @Szafirprince Před 11 měsíci +73

    To be honest I would consider buying this if this would be fully reworked version containing both expansions(AB and SoD) and Chronicles campaings. It is hard to consider it "better" version if more than 60% of content is missing.

    • @aathrael1372
      @aathrael1372 Před 7 měsíci +4

      buy complete. The graphics with HD MOD are nice, there is online support via the hota(horn of the abyss) mod , come play :D
      Dunno what "OP" is talking about really, the hd edition looks like shit :D

    • @NoodleVerse
      @NoodleVerse Před 5 měsíci

      @@aathrael1372 You don't even need the hota mod for online, you can play online with just the HD mod, and for people like me who's probably in the minority who don't like hota mod(don't know why it just never felt right for me, the amount of content it adds is cool tho) it is nice that you don't need the hota mod for online play

    • @aathrael1372
      @aathrael1372 Před 5 měsíci

      true, theres also another rework mod like hota thats being played a lot as well@@NoodleVerse

  • @tarkhan15
    @tarkhan15 Před 11 měsíci +35

    It makes me sad because even Command & Conquer got a better result, from EA of all publishers.

    • @VieneLea
      @VieneLea Před 11 měsíci +23

      You know what they say - "Why was EA named the worst american company? Because Ubisoft is french."

    • @KingOfMadCows
      @KingOfMadCows Před 11 měsíci +3

      C&C Remastered was produced by Jim Vessella, who started in EA working with some remaining Westwood developers on RTS games like Battle for Middle Earth and C&C 3. He worked hard to get the original C&C developers involved.

    • @Quitarstudent
      @Quitarstudent Před 11 měsíci +1

      i played CC recently and the remaster was great, was using mostly pixelated graphics but didnt have any problems with the exception of one mission where for some reason the save files get corrupted

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA Před 10 měsíci

      EA for what it's worth, have a very solid track record of decently working re-releases. Mass Effect Legendary, C&C +Red Alert, NFS Hot Pursuit, Medal of Honor Allied Assault, tons actually in the Origin store.

    • @boblionia
      @boblionia Před 25 dny

      ​@KasumiRINA somehow they're the only AAA publisher who realised that it's actually incredibly cheap to remaster a game properly and the returns are hundreds of times more than what you put in.
      Genuinely embarrassing that Konami, Sony and EA are the only ones who have realised this

  • @JohnTibbitt
    @JohnTibbitt Před 11 měsíci +25

    I'm one of those poor sould who fell into the trap of buying HD Edition off of steam then feeling scammed when I experienced HD mod. Shows the difference between passion for a game and corporate greed to milk a fanbase.

  • @DogmanDraws
    @DogmanDraws Před 11 měsíci +4

    I really appreciate you putting this video out and also linking the modlist, it's made me pick up the game from GoG and try it out for the first time.

    • @aagfnv
      @aagfnv Před 2 měsíci

      Wow, what was your experience?

  • @umbrellaoli
    @umbrellaoli Před 11 měsíci +13

    With ERA III the mod ability from the H3Complete is increase even more. This allows activate different mods at the same time (with some exceptions). Giga maps, QoL mods, alternative upgrades, or advanced classes f.e..
    VCMI is a other great mod project, that recoded the complete base game to increase some limits.
    If the HD Edition had add some QoL features and a random mapgenerator it wouldn't too bad. Age of Empires 2 Remakes got more love from the dev team than this game. 😢

  • @AlbertoMonroy-lq2vw
    @AlbertoMonroy-lq2vw Před 6 měsíci

    great guide, which settings are y ou using and are you using the HD mod?

  • @darthlegit
    @darthlegit Před 11 měsíci +3

    it's me, the guy who thinks conflux shouldn't be in the game

  • @jakubdolezal7716
    @jakubdolezal7716 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Are you planning on playing HoMM V any time in the future by any chance?

  • @sirarzur3296
    @sirarzur3296 Před 10 měsíci

    thank you so much, i´ve been play hd edition and feeling like i was missing something. Also, is there a difference with the map editor too?

  • @apathyinc.7534
    @apathyinc.7534 Před 7 měsíci +4

    I bought the original HOMM III from Good Old Games. It's not high res, but it does use the whole screen instead of trying to accommodate the 15" CRT monitors that were pretty standard for the time. I'm fine with the old version. I do play Horn of the Abyss, as well. A great community there. This is still one of my all-time favorite strategy games ever.

  • @Roadrunner_KZSK
    @Roadrunner_KZSK Před 11 měsíci +22

    Excellent video! I actually do find the HD edition to look better (mostly) which is a shame. I'm tempted to finally try the HotA expansion.
    Any chance you continue the town reviews like you did with dungeon? I understand there's some balance changes in different versions but still. The video was very entertaining and I believe useful for newer players. Thanks

    • @_Seph_
      @_Seph_ Před 8 měsíci +1

      I definitely recommend HotA! Even if you won't play as the new pirate (Cove) town, it's very much worth it because of how much they added, how many bugs they solved and their ballance changes are very, very well done.
      I play HotA for like 2 years already and to me it's basically the "official" game. 11/10

    • @art-hx6hq
      @art-hx6hq Před 7 měsíci

      Does the HD edition have random map generator? I remember deleting the game for not being able to find it years ago.

  • @Zenishor
    @Zenishor Před 8 měsíci +5

    I got excited when you mentioned the HD Mod and HotA and deep down i hoped WoG would get at least a honourable mention. I know it’t not great and not polished at all and the creators of the mod dropped the project unfinished, but it definitely has some interesting quirks and mechanics.
    Great video tho and good explanation on everything else, keep up the good work!

    • @MadMix
      @MadMix Před 7 měsíci +1

      WoG is still alive and ppl are still working on it, they even got their own launcher

    • @irgendeineperson5350
      @irgendeineperson5350 Před 7 měsíci

      WOG is still alive rhough..?

  • @AFnord
    @AFnord Před 11 měsíci +1

    Even the makers of the upcoming HoMM 3 board game seems to view Cove, and by extension Horn of the Abyss, as an official expansion, as Cove was in the list of factions kickstarter backers could vote for as a last faction to be included (Inferno ultimately won that vote, which was pretty much expected, though personally I would have loved to have seen Stronghold)

  • @PanosNFP
    @PanosNFP Před 11 měsíci +5

    I used to play H3 back in 2009 when my uncle show it to me.
    I had stopped playing until 2020 and i didn't have it so i bought it from steam and then i bought it from GoG and the i have played both versions for a while.
    I have to say Complete edition is by far better but i don't regret buying HD edition. Is not good but it is playable.

    • @PeterBornAgain
      @PeterBornAgain Před 11 měsíci +1

      You young whippersnappers don't know how good you have it these days i'm tellin ya, back in 96' upon the release of homm2 we would play for hours on end with a pentium 1 and WIN95
      And when I was grounded and my privileges were taken away which including gaming, my pager, and Coolio cassette tape, I would resort to playing "Paperball" basically, all you do is get a scrap piece of paper, crunch it up into a ball, and play with it!

  • @RNorthex
    @RNorthex Před 2 měsíci

    I really enjoy the way you do content. It's not slapped together or overflown with memes and hot takes, but a nice mix of professional and casual, infused with a bit of fun.

  • @TheSnorkyShow
    @TheSnorkyShow Před 11 měsíci +8

    Its really sad that we don't have a complete Heroes 3 HD complete edition. HOA community and overall all Heroes 3 has such a nice a good community. Its really nice to be around such people.

    • @pimc172
      @pimc172 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Except that we do have a full complete hd version.

    • @6kembe4orba
      @6kembe4orba Před 7 měsíci

      The art of Steam's Heroes 3 HD Edition is atrocious.

  • @error3_
    @error3_ Před 8 měsíci +8

    Didn't know the source code for the expansions had been found. A shame Ubisoft isn't going to do anything with them.
    Great summary of the reasons why the steam edition is mostly worse than the complete edition.

  • @roninsdog261
    @roninsdog261 Před 11 měsíci +10

    I got the game when it first came out in 1999 but lost it somewhere along the line. I bought the HD Edition years later thinking that would be the best option, WRONG! So, I now have the HD HOTA Mod edition and LOVE it. Sooooo many hours of gameplay. and the HOTA expansion is so well thought out.

  • @LPcrazy_88
    @LPcrazy_88 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Thanks for this video, I just came across my og HoMM3 CD and was looking around for the best experience of this amazing game and this helped me not waste my money on this HD "remaster".

  • @Paulsinke
    @Paulsinke Před 10 měsíci +6

    So cool that other people still love this game. I didn't play it back in the day and thought it looked stupid until a trusted friend finally convinced me to try it out, 2000 hours later it's one of my favorite games. So many robust mods too

    • @Dagoth666Ur
      @Dagoth666Ur Před 7 měsíci

      I played it from the first one, prob. hundreds of hours with friends in hot seat, great game, love homm 2 more but 3 is definitely best of the series.

    • @oz_jones
      @oz_jones Před 5 měsíci

      @@Dagoth666Ur I prefer the graphics of 2 over 3, but 3 is objectively a better game.

    • @Dagoth666Ur
      @Dagoth666Ur Před 5 měsíci

      @@oz_jones Yep, 3 is the best but 2 is my favorite, nostalgia i gues.

  • @Ghostiification
    @Ghostiification Před 9 měsíci +3

    I never realized how much the game was improved on the additional content until I tried playing the HD Edition and noticed I actually hate the gameplay, haha. I played the game first time (at my friend's pc) when it was released on 99 and from there it has been more or less a part of my life. Bought the CD-ROM (of complete edition) around 2003-2004 and occasionally played the game for the next six or seven years, before updating the pc and having to buy the gog version as the old rom didn't work on the new pc anymore. After that I picked the game up every few months, almost solely because of the 'random map' feature. Sometimes going back to the Scenarios I had already played, but changing the starting color. After I bought this current gaming pc I had not really had time to play HoMM anymore, but I thought that's going to change when they released the "new" HD version of it (I had never heard of any of the mods) in Steam. Nope.. Moats are completely useless in the "base game". Don't harm or slow the enemies at all. I have no idea why they are in the game at the first place. Also I disliked the fact that the AI just sends an troop standing at my gates and I can't do anything to it if I can't use spells and/or have any archers.
    And what comes to the "spell points".. I had an bug which prevented my hero from using spells at hero vs. hero battles. Could use them just fine when fighting creatures but when attacking AI or they attacking me I suddenly couldn't. I tried five or six scenarios and a couple of campaigns and they all had this "feature". SP were full, book had spells, wasn't standing on magic ground, nobody had artefacts which prevented spell casting (at least I didn't get the message you get on the complete edition, also happened so early on the matches I doubt they'd always found one of those) the book was just grey. I contacted "support", listed all the above into it and the only thing they told me is "you just don't have spell points on your hero, use another. No other possibility". Customer service of the year, Ubisoft in a nutshell. Luckily I got an refund even after I had played for over two hours, as it was unplayable because of that bug.

  • @Atrahasis7
    @Atrahasis7 Před 11 měsíci +12

    One of the games in the remaster trend that broke my heart was Homeworld remastered. It plays nothing gameplay wise like the original game even with all the band aid patches, and I feel it gives new players a bad\worse idea of what the game actually was and played. At least here on HoMM3 some features are out, but its essentially the same game.

    • @6kembe4orba
      @6kembe4orba Před 7 měsíci

      Homeworld 1 Remastered is a real shame, because the graphics/art overhaul is 10/10 (excluding the remaked art cutscenes which are worse than original + misaligned music). Sadly they went the fast & easy route and used H2 as a basis for the first game's remaster which led to the extreme changes in gameplay/systems cause of the fundamental differences between the original H1 and H2 engines.
      Homeworld 2 Remastered has no issues, as far as I know.

    • @Atrahasis7
      @Atrahasis7 Před 7 měsíci

      I think the new cutscenes were okay, the lines were faithful. But yeah the gameplay was ruined. H2 remaster is fine yes.@@6kembe4orba

    • @boblionia
      @boblionia Před 25 dny

      Bro go play HoMM3 HD some more and I garuntee you won't agree that it's "essentially the same game"
      The missing features are glaring and constant, you don't realise how much the expansions fundamentally change the entire game until you are forced to play without them.
      HD Edition is not an enjoyable experience. I would even go as far as to say that it is a bad game.
      Complete edition unmodded on the other hand is janky but a good game.
      This is coming from a casual player, I can't even imagine how terrible the steam version is for people who actually know how to play the game 😂

  • @richardsteinbergs
    @richardsteinbergs Před 11 měsíci +1

    thank you very much for this explanation. it really cleared things up for me. i will be getting complete edition with hd mod and Abyss

  • @kordiandziwisz2859
    @kordiandziwisz2859 Před 11 měsíci +1

    You forgot to mention ERA 3, MoP and VCMI, a bit more chaotic then HOtA but great mods nonetheless, especially ERA 3 + adv. classes + third upgrades. There's also upcoming (hopefully) days of reckoning.

  • @edwarddelimapires222
    @edwarddelimapires222 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Olá amigo, aqui do Brasil vendo a obra de arte que é esse video e saber que existe uma comunidade que mantém viva a alma desse jogo.
    Fiz 28 anos agora em 2023, lembro de jogar uma versão Demo...conseguia fazer um glich que o tempo de demonstração não expirasse, jogava por muitas horas.
    Mesmo não existindo o conceito de speed run, ja fazia isso kkkkk.
    Obrigado pela sensação de nostalgia, lembrando do pc da minha mãe em 2004±...Windows 98 e aquela adrenalina de deixar 100% dominado o primeiro cenário, por vezes demorava um dia todo.
    Em 2012± encontrei na internet um 🧲 com ele em muitas traduções prontas...lembro que gostava muito de jogar as missões nos pântanos e aquele cenário que lembra a fortaleza de Sauron.
    Amo esse jogo, fiquei completamente surpreso por existir tanta gente que ainda é online...um dia compro um PC para jogar com uma galera.
    Usava o mod mesmo antes da versao HD oficial.

    • @Thiagoofficial85
      @Thiagoofficial85 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Jogo Heroes 3 desde 2001, 2002. Envelheceu igual vinho

  • @abok6
    @abok6 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Excellent video. I’m currently playing through HoMM3 campaigns and I was considering installing HotA until I heard about the nerfs… Is there a way to play this mod without nerfing Conflux and Necropolis? As a single player gamer I absolutely despise nerfs in strategy games

    • @ArthursHD
      @ArthursHD Před 11 měsíci

      I welcome the nerfs cause it makes for a more balanced game. More of a fair multiplayer fight :)

    • @irgendeineperson5350
      @irgendeineperson5350 Před 7 měsíci

      Ngl, Necropolis is still very strong to OP in single player games (even without the cloak of the undead king wich is a giant FU to game balance).

    • @averagelizard2489
      @averagelizard2489 Před 7 měsíci

      Necropolis and Conflux are still very strong.

  • @thomasdickson3622
    @thomasdickson3622 Před 11 měsíci +2

    The HD version can be so cheap that it doesn't hurt much to buy it "to support whatever it supports" but two things you missed are HD is Windows only; the various other versions (with mods and new engines) are cross-platform. HD looks like it may be steam deck compatible, for what that's worth.

  • @csikocska
    @csikocska Před 7 měsíci

    At the beginning of my teenage years, I got to know this fantasy turn-based strategy game series. Over time, I learned how to manage resources well and use multiple types of combat units in Heroes of Might and Magic 3. I still enjoy this game to this day, I got it from the Good Old Games software store a long time ago (around 2016 I bought with PayPal). 🙂
    Before I bought Heroes 3 Complete online, I tried a fan mod called "In the Wake of Gods" that added quite a few things. I would also watch a video about how important "Heroes 3 WoG" was until the end of the mod's active development period.
    I didn't play Horn of the Abyss fan expansion, but I will try out when I can have free time after the weekly work. 🙂

  • @balazsfenyes3880
    @balazsfenyes3880 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I used to have horn of the abyss running on my PC but for unknown reasons nowadays when I start the game it goes to 1fps, unable to play at all. Used to play it for ages. Horn of abyss nicely balances races and gives a new faction, when you think conflux is overpowered, you didnt see the pirate race.

  • @andeypetrenko4462
    @andeypetrenko4462 Před 5 měsíci +1

    i think the issue you are having is you are not able to change your resolution setting... i have a files (i think its iso) version of the game, and also installed a Launcher HoMM3 HD 5.4 R72 Launcher (needs update). the Launcher takes care of the resolution and i enjoy playing in HD 1550x872, i can play in 1920x1080, but graphics get too zoomed out to enjoy. if you going to search online, might as well search for h3era (in the wake of gods) and h3hota (horn of the abyss) versions aswell... complete isnt complete... also the guards/borders update you talked about in video is incorrect is not refering to monolith or teleportation gates, but colored guards (keymasters gate) or post guards (which disappear). basically i think you are playing HD in 800x640...

  • @RawmanFilm
    @RawmanFilm Před 7 měsíci

    06:13 Homm 3 HD goes up to UHD II ("8K UHD") though. You can also Linearly or with Interpolation, scale 1:1 or similar.

  • @liccao5256
    @liccao5256 Před 7 měsíci

    super glad I made the right chose back in the day then. I have the complete edition from gog. I considered the HD on steam after but not now after I have seen this video. Perhaps I should try mod it

  • @redavatar
    @redavatar Před 7 měsíci +1

    I like non-scaled up graphics. A lot of the art was beautiful in its original resolution but looks meh upscaled. With modern graphics cards supporting integer upscaling (meaning a pixel is no longer made blurry when upscaled) it makes sense to calculate the best lower resolution for your monitor. For 2560x1440 this is 1280x720 but even 800x600 works fine (1600x1200 with some black borders).

  • @crimsonlightbinder
    @crimsonlightbinder Před 9 měsíci +1

    I found homm3 when I was 14, now I'm 37, and even if I only pick up the game for a couple of days when I get an itch every year or so, I often do mental battles as math just to check who would win between x and y unit. Goes without saying that I know all unit stats 😅

  • @thomasneal9291
    @thomasneal9291 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I keep going back to Homm3 every ten years or so. The colorful maps always give me so much joy. it's fascinating.

  • @TheBrixBK
    @TheBrixBK Před 6 měsíci

    Well one thing to add is: If you buy homam VII deluxe you get the homam III HD included. So 2 in 1 for 10€ in steam sale, may be another option, even the mentioned differences.

  • @preciousbun
    @preciousbun Před 7 měsíci

    if I own Heroes 3 Complete edition on CD can I still download the HD mod for it? or do I need to buy the GoG version to be able to use mods? :0

  • @sterling441
    @sterling441 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Thank you for this information. I had no idea. I'm going with Complete + mods now

  • @jaobidan2358
    @jaobidan2358 Před 10 měsíci +14

    The conflux was pretty strong, but nothing was/is more broken than Lyonis the Cleric, of the Castletown, because his special was a massive buff to the power of the spell "prayer" that scaled with his level. Adding Expert Water Magic to it allowed him to cast prayer on his entire army. He started with basic water magic at lvl 1 which made getting expert very early on easy. I used to play using him on impossible difficulty and win.

    • @crimsonlightbinder
      @crimsonlightbinder Před 9 měsíci

      I kinda find that hard to believe, sorry. On impossible, unless it was an "rpg" map, not sure anyone would say that Lyonis is a good main hero

    • @jaobidan2358
      @jaobidan2358 Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@crimsonlightbinder You're underestimating how strong his spell prayer is with his specialty buff and expert water magic. The raw bonus it gives to all stats of creatures is op.
      What do you mean by "rpg" map? I'm talking about a randomly generated map with monster strength on high and difficulty setting on imp with at least 4 ai. It's easy if you know what you're doing.

    • @_Seph_
      @_Seph_ Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@@crimsonlightbinderOfc Lyonis can be strong. Why shouldn't he? 🤷🏻‍♂️ Expert prayer ain't bad at all

    • @__-tp4tm
      @__-tp4tm Před 7 měsíci +2

      Depending on the enemy's army, mass slowing all enemies and/or hasting/praying your entire army on top will make raw power be your friend. The lower a unit ranks, the bigger prayer's effect is, so big masses of lvl 1-3 will steamroll bigger tiers and your high tier units still get buffs on nearly all stats.
      A big, powerful army will do better with mass haste/mass enemy slow than some attack spells you might otherwise use.

    • @jaobidan2358
      @jaobidan2358 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@__-tp4tm While lower tiers units get more of a buff, the strength of Lyonis' bonus effect amps up its benefits on higher tier units. In fact, his prayer + expert water magic grants the same amount of bonus movement as mass haste making it redundant to use under his command.

  • @stapleman007
    @stapleman007 Před měsícem

    I bought the complete edition and downloaded the HD Mod, thanks for the recommendation. I liked your playthrough videos.

  • @xrexd5398
    @xrexd5398 Před 11 měsíci

    Hey guys, i played WOG, shadow of death and Hota for many years and I just bought this version two weeks ago.. I am used to play randomg generated map with templates and this steam version doesnt even have that. But somehow, I found that very exciting, play maps that was designed to play them in some way, and also… in First game on Warlord map I had hero level 6 stucked wirhour OP spells with small army…(warlords map) and it was very fun in some way.. I liked that size of army really mattered. No wywerns stack, no angels or cyclopes stack, just your few units and few bad spells, hero with low stats, not that 30/30 after one weeks break… only you have to download mod for quick combat, otherwise its really pain. But playing the vanilla maps, many of them for first time, totally new experience 😊 so for some of you, it could be refreshing experience with limiting yourself 😁

  • @stianthomassen6693
    @stianthomassen6693 Před 7 měsíci

    Your criticism is fair, however, I was very happy to get this to my iPad since I can't play as much as I did before and this was a very easy way to pick it up, even with lacking the expansions and the many bugs. And I agree too the PC I would have expected more.

  • @TykoF
    @TykoF Před 9 měsíci +1

    Today GOG is having sales. I was just comparing which version should I get. Glad I bought GOG complete version.

  • @Aliestor
    @Aliestor Před 6 měsíci

    I did not see the video so I dunno if you covered this but they lost the files for the heroes 3 expansions so they are physically unable to make HD remasters of the expantions unless they mod

  • @MrSteve0311
    @MrSteve0311 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the informative vid. Helped me make my choice, as I had no clue about any of this.

  • @Zorroark
    @Zorroark Před 9 měsíci

    Is there a way to play homm3 with the improvements from hota like the better graphics and online lobbies without the new content like the hota balance changes and new factions? I mainly downloaded hota to play homm3 online with a friend but we'd like to play vanilla homm3 complete sometimes.

  • @sterling441
    @sterling441 Před 5 měsíci

    Does it matter in what order you install the mods for Heroes 3 Complete?

  • @SgtPabzz
    @SgtPabzz Před 11 měsíci +4

    Wake of Gods didn’t get mentioned 😭 is my favourite, and works with HD MOD

    • @KyriosHeptagrammaton
      @KyriosHeptagrammaton Před 11 měsíci +1

      He showed Succession Wars mod which runs on ERAII which is the successor to WOG

    • @tri28
      @tri28 Před 10 měsíci

      @@KyriosHeptagrammaton Lol. The Succession Wars mod has nothing to do with WOG...

    • @KyriosHeptagrammaton
      @KyriosHeptagrammaton Před 10 měsíci

      @@tri28 Mate, I worked on the Succession Wars mod

  • @DJ7777BPM
    @DJ7777BPM Před 10 měsíci +3

    Wow I've been playing HD edition for many hours, but now I'm buying the complete edition thanks to your video.

    • @christophertaylor9100
      @christophertaylor9100 Před 6 měsíci

      Same, I liked the HOMM 3 gold edition so much, its a shame they didn't add all that into the Steam version

  • @d347hm4n
    @d347hm4n Před 11 měsíci +4

    Fantastic overview and comparison of the two. Must watch video for any new players in 2023

  • @ZeroPlayerGame
    @ZeroPlayerGame Před 11 měsíci +5

    The HD upscales really look like it was mostly just AI-generated. The artifacts and hard edges are really characteristic of generative art.

    • @savagemessiah.
      @savagemessiah. Před 11 měsíci +2

      I think it predates AI upscaling. Honestly, AI upscaling would look better. The weird smoothness makes it look like it was just run through some upscaling filter and that was that. It's always a little silly when a huge company like ubisoft does a worse job at something than a mod you download off a vaguely dodgy looking russian webpage.

    • @ZeroPlayerGame
      @ZeroPlayerGame Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@savagemessiah./videos no, AI upscaling was very much invented at that point. There'd even been first promising results with style transfer already.

    • @savagemessiah.
      @savagemessiah. Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@ZeroPlayerGame So much for my sense of time lol

  • @TheSpiritedFendron
    @TheSpiritedFendron Před 11 měsíci +1

    I just want literally the same steam setup, but a WoG and the complete

  • @karljohan2300
    @karljohan2300 Před 7 měsíci

    which is why you buy the gog version love how you also advertise it here lol. but man i would love a remake of it in the homm5 engine with alternate upgrades

  • @demogorgonzola
    @demogorgonzola Před 11 měsíci +1

    yea... lack of expansion packs is a dealbreaker
    Re: bloodshot eyes, tired or something else... heh, I vaguely remember reading a fanfic a few years ago in which Inferno basically run a drug empire, so maybe there is something in it xD

  • @DissarayJay
    @DissarayJay Před 7 měsíci

    i'm so out of touch i had no idea what the video
    was about..... theres any other version besides shadow of death???

  • @ArthursHD
    @ArthursHD Před 11 měsíci

    Heroes of Might and Magic 3: HD Edition Multiplayer is completely broken, Was unable to create a working server :(
    Great video!

  • @kaptenteo
    @kaptenteo Před 10 měsíci +3

    The HD edition is horrible. I got so happy when I found out that the complete version was available on GOG, and that it is supported by two amazing fan updates and expansions. They even managed to create a fully functional online lobby for multiplayer!

  • @cryangallegos
    @cryangallegos Před 5 měsíci +1

    Man I was recently just talking about the original release to my wife, how I absolutely loved HOMM2 and never got the chance to play 3.

  • @disobedientdolphin
    @disobedientdolphin Před 7 měsíci

    Thanks for the video.
    Since I only ever played the vanilla HoMM 3 back in the days and don't care for Conflux, scenarios, adventures, custom maps, playing against other players or mods, the HD version is fine for me.

  • @klefthoofrobert787
    @klefthoofrobert787 Před 7 měsíci

    In heroes' case, the only dealbraker of getting this compared to the original one, is not having the expansion packs, Heroes 3 HD is only the base game, which while awesome, is missing a lot of nifty things from the Expansions.

  • @Marder7
    @Marder7 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Can someone Tell me the best settings to get the Most FPS for the HD mod? My AMD Driver dont Show me the fps because the Game IS Not listed in the Driver Overview.
    Hope you understand what i mean my english ist not the best😅

  • @dovydas1732
    @dovydas1732 Před 3 měsíci

    Hi , could you help me and my friend? We are trying to play this game together, but we cant find how to do that...please helppp

  • @Klinsk
    @Klinsk Před 11 měsíci

    my custom modded ERA II setup is all I need, I run 40ish mods for HOMM3 and the game is amazing now, new terrains, new units, new towns, new artifacts, new skills, spellcrafting etc.

  • @sergeydukman5832
    @sergeydukman5832 Před 9 dny

    If I have Heroes of Might and Magic 3: HD Edition can I install the Horn of the Abyss? If yes, how?

  • @toukkero
    @toukkero Před 11 měsíci

    Is there any way to control which factions are allowed on your randomly generated map? I have not found this from the settings and as a quite noob player has not been able to solve. I own the complete edition with HoD mod, but sometimes I would really like to drop the Cove faction out of the game. Is it possible without going back to more bare versions of the game? Ofcourse you can choose your own and opponents factions, but the map generator can still generate Cove monsters and unclaimed towns to maps.

    • @skillaxxx
      @skillaxxx Před 11 měsíci

      You can configure this in a map/RMG template itself using the map editor.

    • @toukkero
      @toukkero Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@skillaxxx Thank you for the tip! I have never used the map editor.

  • @ianrocha6854
    @ianrocha6854 Před 11 měsíci

    EI hope the community comes up with a way to just use the HD assets to mod the original game. That said, the same could not *legally* happen to Warcraft 3 since you kinda can't play the original game anymore, right?
    Edit: Does Complete Edition run on Windows10? It's good enough for me.

    • @Gorgen2k
      @Gorgen2k Před 11 měsíci +3

      Yeah HOMM3 complete + hd mod runs on win10

  • @MichaelNY78
    @MichaelNY78 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Bought HD Edition on Steam about a week ago. And I'm really enjoying it. Costs me just $4...

  • @Shadec1
    @Shadec1 Před 3 měsíci

    so i've been playing Heroes chronicles this entire time not knowing this wasn't the base bame?
    why is the HC puzzle map always completed ? is it not included in the game?
    are obelisks in HC?
    there's no content available explaining this...?

  • @digimurtal
    @digimurtal Před 11 měsíci

    Sooooo glad I bought GOG complete edition instead, and then installed HotA as parallell copy and maped. ofc now I cant play random without the cove faction as option!

  • @WhiteWolfGuild
    @WhiteWolfGuild Před 9 měsíci

    I got on steam Heroes of Might and Magic® 3: HD and I never had a problem with that, I still loving after 20 years❤ other wise is missing the complete edition from steam😢

    • @stapleman007
      @stapleman007 Před měsícem

      They sell it on UBIsoft for $10, HD mod is free to download

  • @ArgirisBothos
    @ArgirisBothos Před 3 měsíci

    Does it play on macs?

  • @doctorlolchicken7478
    @doctorlolchicken7478 Před 7 měsíci

    I had no idea people were still playing HOMM3. I think I have the complete version from GoG. I’m going to install those mods and play it. It will be a nice change from Total Warhammer 3.

  • @KyriosHeptagrammaton
    @KyriosHeptagrammaton Před 11 měsíci +1

    The only thing I disagree with is you saying HD edition looks better and the original looks outdated.
    Also has any remaster ever done a 100% good job other than AoEII?

  • @needsmokes2410
    @needsmokes2410 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I finally broke my addiction pf playing Heroes 3 on and off for nearly 20 years. And then I come across a CZcams video showing me all have the HOTA expansion and bugger me! I'm back playing heroes again.
    Just played malestom on impossible and won. Great map.

  • @Igor369
    @Igor369 Před 11 měsíci

    I wish we had access to original prerendered models. Imagine that every unit got its number of sprites increased 4 times.

  • @ErenJaegerTheRealOne
    @ErenJaegerTheRealOne Před měsícem

    How do you guys buy things on third party websites without feeling worried about your debit card?

  • @SliderHarDCorE
    @SliderHarDCorE Před 9 měsíci +4

    Nice video, but you forgot to mention any version of the most important fan-made expansion for Homm3 complete, which started developing since year 2001 - WoG which later was renamed to Era in mid 2010's !!! That mod/expansion started it all and made it possible for later ones (like HD and Hota) to exist. Also in it''s long "life" made more and most significant improvements and innovations to our beloved HoMM3 than all of the other mods combined !

  • @reymo181
    @reymo181 Před 10 měsíci

    i have both versions. sad that complete edition is not in steam as i sometimes like to hunt achievment.

  • @captainmoonunitsexparty2903
    @captainmoonunitsexparty2903 Před 11 měsíci +8

    You know what's bizarre? There's people who passionately defend the HD edition and get really protective of it.

    • @GreetTheSacredCow
      @GreetTheSacredCow Před 11 měsíci +1

      Really? How strange. Never encountered one myself. Those poor, lost souls.

    • @skillaxxx
      @skillaxxx Před 11 měsíci +2

      The fact that the 3rd party lobby has like a 1000+ daily players in it whilst the HD one's none, says it all. Also, no RMG is a SP showstopper, just like no combi arti's .... Nobody forgets his first 1K+ Liches game !

  • @lizardKingCDXX
    @lizardKingCDXX Před 6 měsíci

    Might I also recommend lords of the realm 2, if the you like this sort of thing, hybrid RTS and turn based. heroes 3 and lords 2, when theres nothing elss good out I always fall back to those

  • @simonsvane3466
    @simonsvane3466 Před 7 měsíci

    thx man, I bought the steam HD edition long time ago. I could never find out why it disappointed me..

  • @NotEvenDeathCanSaveU
    @NotEvenDeathCanSaveU Před 11 měsíci +2

    So complete with hd mod is the good stuff, HD thing is the cashgrab scam. Thank you, awesome info to keep in mind.

  • @eivis13
    @eivis13 Před 7 měsíci

    I have an ethical problem. I own Restoration of Erathia, Shadow of Death and Armagedons Blade on disc. Is it piracy if i download complete edition or just taking what i own and avoid the extra steps and using not so legitimate acquiring methods have the same game in one place. I've bought my copies sometime between 2004 and 2007.

    • @boblionia
      @boblionia Před 24 dny +1

      You already paid for the game, there's your answer.
      If you paid for it again, literally not a single person who worked on the game or even marketed for the game will recieve anything for it.
      The only people who profit are a soulless company who bought the rights from a dying company.
      Pirate the thing bro, there's no ethical question here. You already paid the people who made the game.

  • @daemonknight460
    @daemonknight460 Před 7 měsíci

    How come no one talks about Wake of the Gods (WOG) mod? Easily the biggest best mod for H3, can even convert old maps....so many options and features I couldn't play without.

  • @Z4N7
    @Z4N7 Před 5 měsíci

    Wiki says that expansions were not included because they managed to lost the damn source codes of them.
    I am,or was,more interested in trying it on android,but for whatever reason it is not available on google play anymore. My guess is that developers simply didn't care to update the games to newer versions of android.

  • @micketm3
    @micketm3 Před 10 měsíci

    So... better to get Heroes V (gog ver.) ?_?

  • @jeremiel3821
    @jeremiel3821 Před 11 měsíci

    The random map feature alone is a good reason to go for the GOG edition imo

  • @GradientMann
    @GradientMann Před 4 měsíci

    Finally a CZcams retro gamer that offers genuine insight on the game's quality rather than just exagerrated sarcasm and tired jokes!

  • @VarDenSar
    @VarDenSar Před 11 měsíci

    Where can i download maps for H3 Complete made by community?

    • @skillaxxx
      @skillaxxx Před 11 měsíci

      Everywhere, just Google it...

  • @Surokh
    @Surokh Před 11 měsíci

    The moat doesn't deal damage, hello? What's up with that?

  • @meridathebrave6770
    @meridathebrave6770 Před 7 měsíci

    Good thing i still have all my original boxed versions. Did not know about about the HD mod.

  •  Před 6 měsíci

    7:02 love it :D....great video!

  • @llVIU
    @llVIU Před 11 měsíci

    3:40 "conflux is overpowered"... okay... and??? Oh that's with, with the hota heroes 3 complete you can completely disable any conflux towns or units or even heroes. Or do it halfway, only disable certain ones. Or maybe different towns. Enable/disable whatever you like. Any skills, any artifacts, any spells, any objects, anything you want. Can you do that with HD? No, of course not.

  • @Valdore1000
    @Valdore1000 Před 7 měsíci

    Maybe another unpopular opinion but original campaigns for Restoration of Erathia are great here. Simpler times without combined artefacts and billions of things. I played that when it was released.