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Hi Charlie. Thanks for your review on the GripIt Mirror and Picture Fixing Kit. It’s good to hear that your overall experience and views regarding the product were positive although appreciate there are certain elements of our communication such as the website and packaging that require clarity/improvement. Both are currently undergoing a redesign for 2018 and will address the feedback from yourself and other users. As you correctly pointed out, the Red Gripit’s safe load of 74kg relates to the vertical load bearing down on the fixing into the plasterboard and not the hook loading that will hold no more than 15kg (a fact we will make clearer). Regarding the drilled hole size, while it may be bigger than other fixings on the market, there will be little or no effect on the integrity of the plasterboard as the hole is effectively filled back in with the Gripit Fixing. The hole size is proportional to the load bearing capability of the Gripit as the retained surface area on the back of the plasterboard will increase as the vertical wings are extended to their full-strength position. Rest assured, we take on board all the feedback we receive and will always do our best to improve the product and supporting comms wherever possible.
Gripit Fixings Thanks for taking the time to send such a comprehensive reply. Yes, I think it's a clever little product. I've got to say though, my heart did sink when I saw the TwistIt - helter skelter/ self drive fixings are a dreadful product in my experience - and I have more experience than most, putting up curtains and blinds. I've seen so many disasters with these in my day job and your internal bit to stop them over tightening won't change the fundamental problem with them that you can't get a secure fixing for anything other than downward loads with a fixing that is boring a thread into a brittle material), but I wish you good luck with it. I look forward to seeing the new website when it's ready.
Hi Tony. The reason we include three fixings and two hooks in this kit is simply that one of our national retailers requested that specification when it was being devised. To streamline production and keep our product count to a minimum, we've found it beneficial to keep it the same when sold elsewhere.
@Gripit Fixings - No offense but that makes no sense. It's like buying a coffee maker and the coffee basket is not included. Makes the third item useless. Thanks for the reply though and the explanation. Cheers!
I dont think gripit have done themselves any favours here by this fixing. If it says on the packet it should take that weight then it should its false advertising. Also, I would feel cheated if it had one missing hook, its rather silly. Great video Charlie
The Gripit saved my life. I tried the supplied rawl plugs to hang a bathroom cabinet but they pulled out leaving a mess. The large hole required by the Gripit was good for me because it erased this mess. I found them to be better than rawl plugs in this specific instance as they didn't pull out. Also the plasterboard was close to the brickwork behind so a long fixing would not have fitted.
Good product, I used these to hang a rail bracket on my kitchen cupboard then drilled screws into the studs. Holds heavy weight evenly distributed. Quick, simple good British quality.
Well done with this one Charlie - I have only just found it. Good result with the manufacturer responding even if their responses were cringeworthy and embarrassing for them. To be honest I would never consider using them that hole is just too bloody big- fortunately I do not have stud walls in my home and able to get brick or block fixing for heavy stuff - and for that I tend to use Screwfix concrete screws which I only discovered last year and are my new fave.
These are very useful when you only have a couple of cm between the plasterboard and blocks behind, not enough room for a snaptoggle to open inside, these saved the day
So grateful for this video! All other videos made it look like you had to turn with a screwdriver before inserting a screw. Glad I don't have to take my bathroom cabinet back of the wall to do this. 😅
Really informative! Thank you! Do you think the smallest size can be used to fix curtain tracks to plasterboard ceilings where the void behind the ceiling is very narrow?
My thoughts on the three pack with two brackets. It's perhaps designed for a three point fixing in a triangle arrangement. The two additional brackets aren't hangers but rests for the bottom corners of the mirror, which also explains the square seat of the bracket. The third, top anchor is for hanging the mirror.
Brilliant video, many thanks for the clear comparison. Agree with view about the hook itself, not strong enough and too wide for the holes in my mirror. Had to buy a thinner brass one from the big DIY store!
Thanks Jason. It was a couple of years ago but I'm always trying to make my vids as concise as possible. It doesn't always work though, as I find myself explaining the rationale for doing things a certain way. Never stop learning and trying to improve what I'm doing 👍🏻
Good video and very insightful. I am looking to hang a large Ikea picture but the size of the hole left in the wall using Gripit makes me not want to bother ( landlord does not want 2x massive drill holes on the wall funny enough!)
Hi Charlie. My experience with the Grip it fixings are not positive. I agree with you. The initial hole required is far too big. Not a good idea if you need to move them. I installed an insulated Pir backed plasterboard wall. I needed to fix a curtain rail. I thought let’s try these. I had some left over plasterboard and gave them a try. In my experience the fixings failed as one or both “fins” wouldn’t open up.
Gripit fixings are very good and have done an excellent job, but like yourself I like using as small a fixing as possible. Gripit leaves a big hole should you have change your mind. Loading is the only main consideration I look at and probably these are a bit OTT and very expensive. Great and useful vid thanks for sharing.
Hiya Charlie. Thanks for a great video. Would like to ask what plasterboard fixing would you advise for TV bracket? Hope to hear from you soon. Im soon to put the TV up
Another objective review. Thank you. Since finding your channel we rely fairly heavily on your recommendations (although I'm still gutted that I'm just not strong enough to use the Titan drill). We're looking at installing some heavy duty shelving in our utility room and don't want to be woken in the night to the sound of everything falling down so Grip-it is looking like the way forward. Having watched this video and not having scanned all 100 comments for any answer from Grip-it I'd suggest that the metal hooks they provide in this kit are designed for the bottom of a square/rectangular mirror to rest on hence there only being two in the pack. The third would be for the fixing the mirror hangs from and would probably be supplied with the mirror itself. It's not really fair to talk about the metal hooks not being able to withstand the weight of your tool boxes as it's the Grip-it fixing that has been rated. It looks like the fixing behind was standing up fairly well to the weight of your tool boxes. I hope my comments come across as constructive, please keep the reviews and advice coming.
Hi Charlie. I like this fixing but I was thinking you can discard the silver bit (the piece with the hanging hook) and replace that with other fixings out there. What do you think? There's a fixing in one of my video's that's basically the same but Gold in colour and has the same kind of lip as the pin hook you were referring to when demonstrating how the Silver design creates a large overhang from the wall. I can see it'll be a bit more costly but for peace of mind with something heavy, I'd consider that.
Great video, useless at DIY but my wife has just bought a mirror to hang on a plaster board wall and I was panicking and was not sure where to start. After seeing your video on Gripit I’m going to give it a go, the mirror only weights maybe 10kg so I’m assuming it will be fine. Thank you for the video.
Hi Charlie. Thank you for the great video that addressed the few issues I have with this kit. I haven't bought the kit but pretty thought of the same things you mentioned. I need to hang 40"+ tv's to our walls & given that we are renting I don't want to drill several 25mm large holes into the wall for us to only have to figure out how to fill them if we leave. I'd prefer the smallest holes possible with the same, if not better, weight rating. I do like the idea of the Gripit fixing but I think the better way for me to go, I feel, would be the much sturdier looking anchor fitting that you prefer. Great video.
Great channel and review, i think what your missing is the fact that it gets you round the issue of solid(celotex) and blanket insulation in the void. Using most other fastners require a void in the plasterboard cavity deploy. However this product finnishes very flush to the boarrd so it dosent get foul up like a brolley fixing, toggle and many others do.
Whenever any fixing fixes into Plasterboard, it’s longevity depends on the toughness of the PB ,unless it is fixed on wood frame studs or it is supporting feathers .:-))
Tricky for me to comment without seeing what fixing points you've got on the shelf but check out this video czcams.com/video/Jdu9RId7m90/video.html T bolt or Geefix might be your best option.
Hi, great video Charlie and well done Gripit Fixings for responding with such professionalism, dignity and respect. My questions are:- 1/ I have a depth of 20mm in a dense ish fiberboard with not much gap behind (so using spring toggles, zip snap toggles, or any other type of fixing wont go through fully) I would like to attach shelves with simple brackets onto , so these would be perfect, do these come in a 20mm depth? 2/ If 1 Gripit takes a certain weight would 3 (as in a Bracket for a shelf) triple that weight Thank you
Surely you could just use your own desired hook instead of theirs? Not sure of the size of hole in the bracket but if yours is too small for the screw you could just drill it out a little??
Hi thanks for your video I was wondering what could be used for our house all internal walls are Bessarabia brick and we just had stick on plaster in our renovation and now trying to work out how to hang a couple of heavy pictures. There isn’t any room behind the plaster so do you have any suggestions? And in Australia you can buy those new ones you got at Bunnings hardware for roughly AU $6-8 depending on how many kilo it holds. Thanks 😊
I find they are ok. But latest model has plastic wings. These make them a lot weaker. I've had two installations where the plastic wings have snapped and failed. So top tip is try and get fixings with the metal wings. The load on the fixing was about 15kg.
Thanks for that, Paul. However I really would try and wean yourself off these if you can, particularly if they're now compromising on the quality as you say. These fixings have always had a fundamental flaw - the wing is disproportionately small in relation to the size of the hole you have to drill. There are so many better fixings out there - snap toggle, wall anchors, Geofix and Corefix if it's dot and dab, to name but a few.
although the bracket bent would the fixing along hold i ask as i want to put my pc on a shelf but it weighs 22.5kgs and i dont really want it crashing off the wall.
They're flogging the stock because the company has gone bust. Personally I wouldn't. I'd use something like a Geefix or if it's a dot and dab wall, a Corefix, spanning the void and drilling into the brickwork behind, but you'll probably be ok with them. I just remember that scene in Dragons Den when Peter Jones pulled a radiator off the demo wall they had constructed. 🙄
Check out this video czcams.com/video/Jdu9RId7m90/video.html. I do a load test near the end and the Gripit performed very badly under cantilever force, as I predicted.
@Charlie DIYte Which fixings would you use if your plasterboard is directly on the "air duct"? On a corner. I have yet to fix it. I have 9 holes so far and none worked. Which I need to fix now. I don't want to put a hole in the air ducts. Some of the fixes I have seen require there to be space behind the plasterboard. I have no space.
hi I'm going to hang a 55" tv on a stud wall. would you say these are better to use than a spring toggle? as this is what I was going to use until I saw this advertised ?? Advise please. ps great video as per usual.
Hi, can u tell me which ones u rec'd for now, 2020? & for fixing a large mirror to a plaster'bd wall, is there a way to tell how hollow it is, or if it's actually masonry? it seems medium hollow? & what fixings best for this? ALSO, a smallish Fullen Ikea mirror with shelf to bathroom plasterbd hollow wall, which ones best for this? Is there an easy way to tell what type of walls u actually have? tks, Mona
Trying to figure this out too. Hubby is no handyman and i need to hang shelves,a bathroom cabinet,an overhead kitchen cupboard and a large mirror on mystery walls.
@@nowirehangers2815 Oh, is that y u r waiting on Elvis!? that might be a long wait!! I was thinkg this might be a reply from the vidoer himself.. seems u have stuff like me to hang up, but at least u have a hubby!!
Agreed not designed for a downward load. However I think that particular hook is actually designed to hold a mirror with a hard back which is then flat against a wall. Maybe that's how they calculate load capacity. Agree with your thought about the size of hole Too wouldn't be my go to fixing. Good unbiased review.
Totally agree mate that it's designed to hold a mirror - and in fact that's what Naiemaa pointed out (comment below). This didn't occur to me when doing the review, but I think their logic is a little muddled. Mirror brackets as you suggest typically have a couple of static brackets that go under the mirror (like theirs), and then a few with slotted screw hole holes on the bracket so that you can slide the brackets in from the side and top. But because these are clearly, as you suggest, designed to go under the mirror, you've then got to position the third screw near the top of the mirror, to take a wire or mirror string, and this is reasonably tricky to get in the right position for your average DIYer - too low and the mirror swings forward, too high and the bottom brackets don't come into play. Also, the pack is marketed as a mirror and picture hanging kit, but is clearly, as you say more geared to hanging mirrors, because the brackets wouldn't fit under most pictures. There's nothing on the pack to explain their logic as to how to use the brackets.
I wouldn't buy something from a company that has so many frustrations met from buying the product to installing it, At the end of the video you mentioned, there were 3 brackets but as you mentioned earlier in your video they only provided 2 hooks in the packet,. This to me means there are only 2 brackets in the pack that can be used. In other words a form of "Bait and Switch",
I'm moving into a brand new build house which will be mainly made up of plasterboard walls ( I don't know the plaster board thickness or the plaster layer applied to it) I plan to hang a large mirror but im not keen on drilling such a large hole and using this fixing. What would you suggest? Or would this simply be the best option fixing to use.
Alan, I've literally last night uploaded a comprehensive new video. Take a look and feel me a line if you've still got any questions czcams.com/video/Jdu9RId7m90/video.html
Hi Charlie great video so many thanks for that I need to hang a TV onto a plaster board wall its only a 32 inch screen so not a great deal of weight and I've seen gripit do a kit esp for tvs I've checked the wall and there is a gap between the plaster board and brick so I thought this application might do the job just wondered if you have ever come across these for TVs they are blue plugs I think many thanks Paul
It's quite simple as to why they supply one less bracket in the pack, it's to get people to buy another pack if you need 3. It happens all the time. It's called GREED.
Charlie, do you have any experience with double-thickness plasterboard? I tried to fit a grip-it fixture recently in my kitchen but having drilled the hole i realised it was double thickness board. I've hung a heavy picture using the trusty Fischer UX6 and am hoping to hang a tv bracket (tv only weighs 4kg) so nothing too scary. Guessing the UX6 would be ok here too, and maybe I would be better off mounting into a stud. Would appreciate your thoughts. Thanks.
Hi Jon, sorry I missed this. If my advice isn't too late.... the strongest option would be a hollow wall anchor - which you can buy with a double thickness collar to match the depth of your double thickness plasterboard. This will be incredibly strong. Check out my video czcams.com/video/e3hjzPNe5wk/video.html on how to install them. At 1.13mins into the video you'll see the anchor with the longer collar that I mentioned above. Failing that you could use one of the new Fischer Duopower 8x40, but the hollow wall anchor would be your best bet.
Try and screw into studs behind the plaster board of you can. If you can't, and there's a small void behind the plasterboard before the wall, Corefix are good czcams.com/video/fx90VadXSXA/video.html. Failing that, I'd recommend wall anchors. czcams.com/video/e3hjzPNe5wk/video.html
Judging by the shape of the brackets and the fact that we only have 2 of them in the packet, I imagine that the 2 brackets are meant to be under a heavy frame or mirror (that's why they are square and not on an angle) and the third one with only a screw is probably meant to go behind the picture frame to hold the string or the metal sawtooth. That's just my guess I could be wrong.
Naiemaa I think you're absolutely right - something I totally missed! It's a little bit odd though on a few counts. 1) there's no mention of that on the bag or anywhere else for that matter; and 2) if they're intended to operate as you suggest, then it's quite a tricky process to get the third (top) screw in the right place relative to the wire on the back of the mirror - if too low, then the mirror will hang too far away from the wall because the wire will be too slack, and if the screw is too high, then the two bottom brackets won't properly come into play. Normally in this (mirror fixing kit) scenario you have two brackets that go under the bottom of the mirror and then a few at the sides and top that have a groove in the bracket where the screw goes - so you can slide the bracket in, locking the mirror in place; and 3) if you bought the kit to install a picture you generally wouldn't be able to use the two brackets underneath because the picture frame would be too deep. Hmmm. Interesting. Hopefully the GripIt team will set us right on this one by way of a comment of their own. I don't want to detract from what is a cleverly designed product - but if I'm sent one for review I might as well give my honest opinion 🤔 Thanks for taking the time to comment!
Gramsci You have to use the ones provided, or if not long enough for your application, buy a longer one with exactly the same diameter and thread size.
I'm not sure I'd rely on this for a ceiling fan. If you can't screw into any joists, you may want something a bit more substantial like this czcams.com/video/aeFyQS2NGVM/video.html.
To be fair to grip it, they aren't at fault here. They have supplied brackets in the picture frame hanging kit that is specifically designed to withstand the load of picture frames lol. Anything you buy, that requires a bracket to be mounted onto a wall will come with a bracket specifically designed to mount that product, whether it's a boiler, radiator or whatever. Hanging 20kg worth of gear off of a bracket designed for picture frames isn't fair, and is ultimately misleading and poor reviewing of a product. The gripit fixings are perfectly fine in doing the job, provided the correct ones are used for the product being mounted.
But the packaging states it can hold 75kg, so it should be able to hold 20kg without issue. I have a large mirror I want to hang it's way more than 20 kg. looking for the right fixing for plasterboard. I'm thinking I might have to have it off-center to get it into a stud.
@@philkap the plasterboard fixing itself can hold 74kg, that's why all the range are just sold as fixings, ie no brackets, because the bracket is solely the responsibility of the product manufacturers of the item being hung. Manufacturers brackets are designed to withstand the load of the product, it is then your responsibility to use the correct fixing for that product. A picture frame bracket isn't and never will hold 20kg or anywhere close. A little common sense goes a long way
@@philkap what did you use in the end?. I too am looking to hang a large heavy mirrir, probably about 20kg. I dont have much space behind the boards and am looking to use two or even three fixing just to be sure.
What is this? Pedants corner? If you have caught me out, well done you, but I have both pozi drive and Phillips head bits in this Erbauer impact bit range and I'm pretty sure this was a PZ2 bit!
Your logic of small a hole as possible in plasterboard is flawed and completely wrong. Drill a 3mm hole in plasterboard and insert a 3mm bar and pull down, due to it being small it would cut in to the edge very easily, now drill a 4”” hole and insert a 4” bar it would be near impossible to pull that bar through the edge of the board due to such a large surface area. This is precisely why the larger grip-its have a stronger load rating.
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Hi Charlie. Thanks for your review on the GripIt Mirror and Picture Fixing Kit.
It’s good to hear that your overall experience and views regarding the product were positive although appreciate there are certain elements of our communication such as the website and packaging that require clarity/improvement. Both are currently undergoing a redesign for 2018 and will address the feedback from yourself and other users. As you correctly pointed out, the Red Gripit’s safe load of 74kg relates to the vertical load bearing down on the fixing into the plasterboard and not the hook loading that will hold no more than 15kg (a fact we will make clearer).
Regarding the drilled hole size, while it may be bigger than other fixings on the market, there will be little or no effect on the integrity of the plasterboard as the hole is effectively filled back in with the Gripit Fixing. The hole size is proportional to the load bearing capability of the Gripit as the retained surface area on the back of the plasterboard will increase as the vertical wings are extended to their full-strength position.
Rest assured, we take on board all the feedback we receive and will always do our best to improve the product and supporting comms wherever possible.
Gripit Fixings Thanks for taking the time to send such a comprehensive reply. Yes, I think it's a clever little product. I've got to say though, my heart did sink when I saw the TwistIt - helter skelter/ self drive fixings are a dreadful product in my experience - and I have more experience than most, putting up curtains and blinds. I've seen so many disasters with these in my day job and your internal bit to stop them over tightening won't change the fundamental problem with them that you can't get a secure fixing for anything other than downward loads with a fixing that is boring a thread into a brittle material), but I wish you good luck with it. I look forward to seeing the new website when it's ready.
@Gripit Fixings - what about the 3 gripits in the package and only 2 hooks? Does that happen often?
Hi Tony. The reason we include three fixings and two hooks in this kit is simply that one of our national retailers requested that specification when it was being devised. To streamline production and keep our product count to a minimum, we've found it beneficial to keep it the same when sold elsewhere.
@Gripit Fixings - No offense but that makes no sense. It's like buying a coffee maker and the coffee basket is not included. Makes the third item useless. Thanks for the reply though and the explanation. Cheers!
I dont think gripit have done themselves any favours here by this fixing. If it says on the packet it should take that weight then it should its false advertising. Also, I would feel cheated if it had one missing hook, its rather silly. Great video Charlie
Plumber by trade. Used these today to hanging a towel radiator. Very impressed
The Gripit saved my life. I tried the supplied rawl plugs to hang a bathroom cabinet but they pulled out leaving a mess. The large hole required by the Gripit was good for me because it erased this mess. I found them to be better than rawl plugs in this specific instance as they didn't pull out. Also the plasterboard was close to the brickwork behind so a long fixing would not have fitted.
Good product, I used these to hang a rail bracket on my kitchen cupboard then drilled screws into the studs. Holds heavy weight evenly distributed. Quick, simple good British quality.
Great tutorial! Thanks for sharing. It would have been interesting to see how the standard picture hook did against the GRIPIT supplied hook.
Well done with this one Charlie - I have only just found it. Good result with the manufacturer responding even if their responses were cringeworthy and embarrassing for them. To be honest I would never consider using them that hole is just too bloody big- fortunately I do not have stud walls in my home and able to get brick or block fixing for heavy stuff - and for that I tend to use Screwfix concrete screws which I only discovered last year and are my new fave.
Thanks Norman - I appreciate that, and great tip with the concrete screws - not something I've ever tried, so I'll definitely be giving them a go!
These are very useful when you only have a couple of cm between the plasterboard and blocks behind, not enough room for a snaptoggle to open inside, these saved the day
I agree Daniel. I've always said that. I just think generally the side of the wing that opens up is too small relative to the hole you have to drill.
Really useful to see for someone who has never drilled into plaster before
Thanks Corrina. You really want to watch my updated video czcams.com/video/Jdu9RId7m90/video.html
Feel like I've been searching for this video all my adult DIY life! 😂😂 Thanks Charlie!!
You're welcome but it's this one you want to watch for fixing into plaster board czcams.com/video/Jdu9RId7m90/video.html 👍
I use the gripit range quite often and they're very good.
Great easy to understand video of GRIPIT mirror kit
Thanks. 👍
So grateful for this video! All other videos made it look like you had to turn with a screwdriver before inserting a screw. Glad I don't have to take my bathroom cabinet back of the wall to do this. 😅
Only just discovered you. How very useful, thank you, especially as this week my daughter is planning hanging large pictures and a large mirror!
Hi Jeremy, good to hear from you and thanks for checking out my channel. Hope she gets on ok. Let me know if you've got any questions.
Really informative! Thank you! Do you think the smallest size can be used to fix curtain tracks to plasterboard ceilings where the void behind the ceiling is very narrow?
My thoughts on the three pack with two brackets. It's perhaps designed for a three point fixing in a triangle arrangement. The two additional brackets aren't hangers but rests for the bottom corners of the mirror, which also explains the square seat of the bracket. The third, top anchor is for hanging the mirror.
Was just about to type that your 100%correct god knows how this guy is in the building trade 😂
This is exactly what I thought. But is it labeled anywhere that this is the correct usage?
@@harms-jm7gx so what hangs on the top triangle fitting?
Brilliant video, many thanks for the clear comparison. Agree with view about the hook itself, not strong enough and too wide for the holes in my mirror. Had to buy a thinner brass one from the big DIY store!
Brilliant and honest advice mate, I like your style with this vid (straight & to the point). Is this a new Charles that we are seeing?
Thanks Jason. It was a couple of years ago but I'm always trying to make my vids as concise as possible. It doesn't always work though, as I find myself explaining the rationale for doing things a certain way. Never stop learning and trying to improve what I'm doing 👍🏻
Nice one, mate. Most useful guide on installing gripit on plasterboard
Good video and very insightful. I am looking to hang a large Ikea picture but the size of the hole left in the wall using Gripit makes me not want to bother ( landlord does not want 2x massive drill holes on the wall funny enough!)
Don't really comment on videos but, WOW!. Amazing describtion on the products. well done Charlie.
Thank for another excellent video.
You're welcome Tracey 🙏
They also use 15 mm board for the Max load test. Often people have 12.5 mm or thinner
Hi Charlie, great video 👍, would you recommend the plasterboard Fischer fixings for a 20kg mirror with 2 screw fixings?. Cheers.
Hi Charlie.
My experience with the Grip it fixings are not positive.
I agree with you. The initial hole required is far too big. Not a good idea if you need to move them. I installed an insulated Pir backed plasterboard wall. I needed to fix a curtain rail. I thought let’s try these. I had some left over plasterboard and gave them a try. In my experience the fixings failed as one or both “fins” wouldn’t open up.
Exactly. Here's a vid that night be useful for that czcams.com/video/L2Hy1IhQ17s/video.html
What a great video! I think I can do it now 😜
Thanks Holly! You definitely can!
Gripit fixings are very good and have done an excellent job, but like yourself I like using as small a fixing as possible. Gripit leaves a big hole should you have change your mind. Loading is the only main consideration I look at and probably these are a bit OTT and very expensive. Great and useful vid thanks for sharing.
Nice, now in screwfix... about to pick mine up and try them out, pack of 25 for 12 quid...can't go wrong.
Do you need the hook is that what pulls it tight or could I install the grip it on it’s own with a screw and hang the mirror off of the screw?
Hiya Charlie.
Thanks for a great video.
Would like to ask what plasterboard fixing would you advise for TV bracket?
Hope to hear from you soon. Im soon to put the TV up
The gripit saved my life.
Well done Charlie very informative.
GREAT REVIEW THANKS
Thanks John. 👍
Another objective review. Thank you. Since finding your channel we rely fairly heavily on your recommendations (although I'm still gutted that I'm just not strong enough to use the Titan drill). We're looking at installing some heavy duty shelving in our utility room and don't want to be woken in the night to the sound of everything falling down so Grip-it is looking like the way forward.
Having watched this video and not having scanned all 100 comments for any answer from Grip-it I'd suggest that the metal hooks they provide in this kit are designed for the bottom of a square/rectangular mirror to rest on hence there only being two in the pack. The third would be for the fixing the mirror hangs from and would probably be supplied with the mirror itself.
It's not really fair to talk about the metal hooks not being able to withstand the weight of your tool boxes as it's the Grip-it fixing that has been rated. It looks like the fixing behind was standing up fairly well to the weight of your tool boxes.
I hope my comments come across as constructive, please keep the reviews and advice coming.
Emma, are you in some way affiliated to Grip-it, per chance?
@@CharlieDIYte Sorry, just a mum and utterly unpaid.
Hi Charlie. I like this fixing but I was thinking you can discard the silver bit (the piece with the hanging hook) and replace that with other fixings out there. What do you think? There's a fixing in one of my video's that's basically the same but Gold in colour and has the same kind of lip as the pin hook you were referring to when demonstrating how the Silver design creates a large overhang from the wall. I can see it'll be a bit more costly but for peace of mind with something heavy, I'd consider that.
Great video, useless at DIY but my wife has just bought a mirror to hang on a plaster board wall and I was panicking and was not sure where to start. After seeing your video on Gripit I’m going to give it a go, the mirror only weights maybe 10kg so I’m assuming it will be fine.
Thank you for the video.
Thanks Carl. Yes if it's predominantly downward pressure, this fixing will be fine.
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Hi Charlie. Thank you for the great video that addressed the few issues I have with this kit. I haven't bought the kit but pretty thought of the same things you mentioned.
I need to hang 40"+ tv's to our walls & given that we are renting I don't want to drill several 25mm large holes into the wall for us to only have to figure out how to fill them if we leave. I'd prefer the smallest holes possible with the same, if not better, weight rating.
I do like the idea of the Gripit fixing but I think the better way for me to go, I feel, would be the much sturdier looking anchor fitting that you prefer.
Great video.
Great channel and review, i think what your missing is the fact that it gets you round the issue of solid(celotex) and blanket insulation in the void. Using most other fastners require a void in the plasterboard cavity deploy. However this product finnishes very flush to the boarrd so it dosent get foul up like a brolley fixing, toggle and many others do.
Except that wall anchors force their way open in celotex, but I take your point.
@@CharlieDIYte brolley fixings usually struggle in my experience.
Whenever any fixing fixes into Plasterboard, it’s longevity depends on the toughness of the PB ,unless it is fixed on wood frame studs or it is supporting feathers .:-))
I’ve got to hang a kids bookshelf on a lath and plaster (and skimmed ) wall - what fixing would you recommend for this type of wall?
Tricky for me to comment without seeing what fixing points you've got on the shelf but check out this video czcams.com/video/Jdu9RId7m90/video.html T bolt or Geefix might be your best option.
Thanks for the video and all the previous ones.
Hi, great video Charlie and well done Gripit Fixings for responding with such professionalism, dignity and respect.
My questions are:-
1/ I have a depth of 20mm in a dense ish fiberboard with not much gap behind (so using spring toggles, zip snap toggles, or any other type of fixing wont go through fully)
I would like to attach shelves with simple brackets onto , so these would be perfect, do these come in a 20mm depth?
2/ If 1 Gripit takes a certain weight would 3 (as in a Bracket for a shelf) triple that weight Thank you
No-one answered question 1 but this is the answer: www.gripitfixings.co.uk/products/gripit-undercutting-tool
Surely you could just use your own desired hook instead of theirs? Not sure of the size of hole in the bracket but if yours is too small for the screw you could just drill it out a little??
Hi thanks for your video I was wondering what could be used for our house all internal walls are Bessarabia brick and we just had stick on plaster in our renovation and now trying to work out how to hang a couple of heavy pictures. There isn’t any room behind the plaster so do you have any suggestions? And in Australia you can buy those new ones you got at Bunnings hardware for roughly AU $6-8 depending on how many kilo it holds. Thanks 😊
Why are manufacturers own websites always crap?
Thanks for the video.
Lazy/ complacent, I guess.
I find they are ok. But latest model has plastic wings. These make them a lot weaker. I've had two installations where the plastic wings have snapped and failed. So top tip is try and get fixings with the metal wings. The load on the fixing was about 15kg.
Thanks for that, Paul. However I really would try and wean yourself off these if you can, particularly if they're now compromising on the quality as you say. These fixings have always had a fundamental flaw - the wing is disproportionately small in relation to the size of the hole you have to drill. There are so many better fixings out there - snap toggle, wall anchors, Geofix and Corefix if it's dot and dab, to name but a few.
although the bracket bent would the fixing along hold i ask as i want to put my pc on a shelf but it weighs 22.5kgs and i dont really want it crashing off the wall.
Do not use these. For belt and braces get some Geefix but watch this video for a complete run down czcams.com/video/Jdu9RId7m90/video.html
@@CharlieDIYte that’s a lot for the help very much appreciated your video linked was extremely helpful too.
Would you hang radiators with these? I've just purchased loads from b&q at a steal of a price
They're flogging the stock because the company has gone bust. Personally I wouldn't. I'd use something like a Geefix or if it's a dot and dab wall, a Corefix, spanning the void and drilling into the brickwork behind, but you'll probably be ok with them. I just remember that scene in Dragons Den when Peter Jones pulled a radiator off the demo wall they had constructed. 🙄
I am more interested in the pull out load rating which will be much less than the hanging load.
Check out this video czcams.com/video/Jdu9RId7m90/video.html. I do a load test near the end and the Gripit performed very badly under cantilever force, as I predicted.
@Charlie DIYte Which fixings would you use if your plasterboard is directly on the "air duct"? On a corner. I have yet to fix it. I have 9 holes so far and none worked. Which I need to fix now. I don't want to put a hole in the air ducts. Some of the fixes I have seen require there to be space behind the plasterboard. I have no space.
hi I'm going to hang a 55" tv on a stud wall. would you say these are better to use than a spring toggle? as this is what I was going to use until I saw this advertised ?? Advise please. ps great video as per usual.
I wish people would specify weight when they use the term 'heavy'.
Hi, can u tell me which ones u rec'd for now, 2020? & for fixing a large mirror to a plaster'bd wall, is there a way to tell how hollow it is, or if it's actually masonry? it seems medium hollow? & what fixings best for this? ALSO, a smallish Fullen Ikea mirror with shelf to bathroom plasterbd hollow wall, which ones best for this? Is there an easy way to tell what type of walls u actually have? tks, Mona
Trying to figure this out too.
Hubby is no handyman and i need to hang shelves,a bathroom cabinet,an overhead kitchen cupboard and a large mirror on mystery walls.
@@nowirehangers2815 Oh, is that y u r waiting on Elvis!? that might be a long wait!! I was thinkg this might be a reply from the vidoer himself.. seems u have stuff like me to hang up, but at least u have a hubby!!
@@nowirehangers2815 see below, also check out Gosforth Handyman! he seems to know his stuff!
@@monal3650 thank you!
Hubby aint real handy.
I will check it out
Agreed not designed for a downward load. However I think that particular hook is actually designed to hold a mirror with a hard back which is then flat against a wall. Maybe that's how they calculate load capacity. Agree with your thought about the size of hole Too wouldn't be my go to fixing. Good unbiased review.
Totally agree mate that it's designed to hold a mirror - and in fact that's what Naiemaa pointed out (comment below). This didn't occur to me when doing the review, but I think their logic is a little muddled. Mirror brackets as you suggest typically have a couple of static brackets that go under the mirror (like theirs), and then a few with slotted screw hole holes on the bracket so that you can slide the brackets in from the side and top. But because these are clearly, as you suggest, designed to go under the mirror, you've then got to position the third screw near the top of the mirror, to take a wire or mirror string, and this is reasonably tricky to get in the right position for your average DIYer - too low and the mirror swings forward, too high and the bottom brackets don't come into play. Also, the pack is marketed as a mirror and picture hanging kit, but is clearly, as you say more geared to hanging mirrors, because the brackets wouldn't fit under most pictures. There's nothing on the pack to explain their logic as to how to use the brackets.
Should I be able to hang a 15KG mirror with two gripits apart?
Nooooo. Do not use Gripits. Check this out czcams.com/video/Jdu9RId7m90/video.html
I wouldn't buy something from a company that has so many frustrations met from buying the product to installing it,
At the end of the video you mentioned, there were 3 brackets but as you mentioned earlier in your video they only provided 2 hooks in the packet,. This to me means there are only 2 brackets in the pack that can be used. In other words a form of "Bait and Switch",
subscribed good review thanks
Thanks - much appreciated!
I'm moving into a brand new build house which will be mainly made up of plasterboard walls ( I don't know the plaster board thickness or the plaster layer applied to it) I plan to hang a large mirror but im not keen on drilling such a large hole and using this fixing. What would you suggest? Or would this simply be the best option fixing to use.
Alan, I've literally last night uploaded a comprehensive new video. Take a look and feel me a line if you've still got any questions czcams.com/video/Jdu9RId7m90/video.html
The other advantage of using Gripits is you do not need alot of depth behind the plasterboard
Hi Charlie great video so many thanks for that I need to hang a TV onto a plaster board wall its only a 32 inch screen so not a great deal of weight and I've seen gripit do a kit esp for tvs I've checked the wall and there is a gap between the plaster board and brick so I thought this application might do the job just wondered if you have ever come across these for TVs they are blue plugs I think many thanks Paul
Thanks mate. You want to use these really czcams.com/video/aeFyQS2NGVM/video.html. Much stronger than the Gripit.
It's quite simple as to why they supply one less bracket in the pack, it's to get people to buy another pack if you need 3. It happens all the time. It's called GREED.
Yep a common worldwide practice. Buy 2 packs & you'll have 6 fittings. Why wouldn't you (they say)?
Charlie, do you have any experience with double-thickness plasterboard? I tried to fit a grip-it fixture recently in my kitchen but having drilled the hole i realised it was double thickness board. I've hung a heavy picture using the trusty Fischer UX6 and am hoping to hang a tv bracket (tv only weighs 4kg) so nothing too scary. Guessing the UX6 would be ok here too, and maybe I would be better off mounting into a stud. Would appreciate your thoughts. Thanks.
Hi Jon, sorry I missed this. If my advice isn't too late.... the strongest option would be a hollow wall anchor - which you can buy with a double thickness collar to match the depth of your double thickness plasterboard. This will be incredibly strong. Check out my video czcams.com/video/e3hjzPNe5wk/video.html on how to install them. At 1.13mins into the video you'll see the anchor with the longer collar that I mentioned above. Failing that you could use one of the new Fischer Duopower 8x40, but the hollow wall anchor would be your best bet.
Try the undercut tool designed for the Gripit.
I need to put up a tv on my wall its plasterboard what fixing should I use ?
Try and screw into studs behind the plaster board of you can. If you can't, and there's a small void behind the plasterboard before the wall, Corefix are good czcams.com/video/fx90VadXSXA/video.html. Failing that, I'd recommend wall anchors. czcams.com/video/e3hjzPNe5wk/video.html
Judging by the shape of the brackets and the fact that we only have 2 of them in the packet, I imagine that the 2 brackets are meant to be under a heavy frame or mirror (that's why they are square and not on an angle) and the third one with only a screw is probably meant to go behind the picture frame to hold the string or the metal sawtooth.
That's just my guess I could be wrong.
Naiemaa I think you're absolutely right - something I totally missed! It's a little bit odd though on a few counts. 1) there's no mention of that on the bag or anywhere else for that matter; and 2) if they're intended to operate as you suggest, then it's quite a tricky process to get the third (top) screw in the right place relative to the wire on the back of the mirror - if too low, then the mirror will hang too far away from the wall because the wire will be too slack, and if the screw is too high, then the two bottom brackets won't properly come into play. Normally in this (mirror fixing kit) scenario you have two brackets that go under the bottom of the mirror and then a few at the sides and top that have a groove in the bracket where the screw goes - so you can slide the bracket in, locking the mirror in place; and 3) if you bought the kit to install a picture you generally wouldn't be able to use the two brackets underneath because the picture frame would be too deep. Hmmm. Interesting. Hopefully the GripIt team will set us right on this one by way of a comment of their own. I don't want to detract from what is a cleverly designed product - but if I'm sent one for review I might as well give my honest opinion 🤔 Thanks for taking the time to comment!
What screw do you use when picture has ‘sawtooth’?
Probably a pan head just to stop it slipping off but not really essential.
How do I go about hanging a curtain pole to insulated plasterboard?
Fischer Duopower 8x40 with 4.5 or 5 X 50 mm screws. Just make sure you don't drill through the vapour barrier at the back of the insulation.
@@CharlieDIYte Thank you pal, keep up the good work mate 😊
B&Q sell them now 😎
Wouldn't touch them personally.
Thanks Very helpful and informative
love it
They are excellent. However now they are plastic backed instead of using metal wings. 😕
So can you just use any kind of screw? or do you have to use the ones provided?
Gramsci You have to use the ones provided, or if not long enough for your application, buy a longer one with exactly the same diameter and thread size.
"it's pretty well hidden" as he filters in perfect logical order, lol
I don't understand that comment 🤔
@@CharlieDIYte it's exactly where you would expect to find it, like a book in a library
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Can the screw be undone and refitted if I need to replace the hanging bracket ?
Yes it can and in fact you can remove the fixing if required, but there are lots of better fixings on the market.
Could I use these to put a ceiling fan up? Thanks
I'm not sure I'd rely on this for a ceiling fan. If you can't screw into any joists, you may want something a bit more substantial like this czcams.com/video/aeFyQS2NGVM/video.html.
Oohh the muscles on you!
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To be fair to grip it, they aren't at fault here. They have supplied brackets in the picture frame hanging kit that is specifically designed to withstand the load of picture frames lol.
Anything you buy, that requires a bracket to be mounted onto a wall will come with a bracket specifically designed to mount that product, whether it's a boiler, radiator or whatever. Hanging 20kg worth of gear off of a bracket designed for picture frames isn't fair, and is ultimately misleading and poor reviewing of a product.
The gripit fixings are perfectly fine in doing the job, provided the correct ones are used for the product being mounted.
But the packaging states it can hold 75kg, so it should be able to hold 20kg without issue. I have a large mirror I want to hang it's way more than 20 kg. looking for the right fixing for plasterboard. I'm thinking I might have to have it off-center to get it into a stud.
@@philkap the plasterboard fixing itself can hold 74kg, that's why all the range are just sold as fixings, ie no brackets, because the bracket is solely the responsibility of the product manufacturers of the item being hung. Manufacturers brackets are designed to withstand the load of the product, it is then your responsibility to use the correct fixing for that product. A picture frame bracket isn't and never will hold 20kg or anywhere close. A little common sense goes a long way
@@philkap what did you use in the end?. I too am looking to hang a large heavy mirrir, probably about 20kg. I dont have much space behind the boards and am looking to use two or even three fixing just to be sure.
@@phildavis1825 I ended up installing a picture shelf screwed into the stud one side and with a plasterboard fixing on the other.
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5:51 Using a Phillips screwdriver bit to drive in a Pozidriv screw! 🤦🤦🤦
What is this? Pedants corner? If you have caught me out, well done you, but I have both pozi drive and Phillips head bits in this Erbauer impact bit range and I'm pretty sure this was a PZ2 bit!
Lol, that was quick! It's definitely a Phillips though, you can see the tapered ribs/flutes. Parralel ribs on Pozi.
It’s not lazy marketing. The fixing is fine it’s not came through the plasterboard ? The hook is flimsy not the plasterboard fixing
It did go through the plasterboard and they provide the hook so it should comply with their load ratings
@@CharlieDIYte no I mean like the fixing didn’t pop back out the plasterboard the fixing is completely fine. The hook on the other hand isn’t
That's not a glitch it's a massive liability. They will be sued big time in due course come the inevitable accident.
Homebargains sell a pack of 4 £2.20
Bracket was useless,i'd just hang the mirror off the screw.
How two. Dill in. Hard. Wall
Your logic of small a hole as possible in plasterboard is flawed and completely wrong. Drill a 3mm hole in plasterboard and insert a 3mm bar and pull down, due to it being small it would cut in to the edge very easily, now drill a 4”” hole and insert a 4” bar it would be near impossible to pull that bar through the edge of the board due to such a large surface area. This is precisely why the larger grip-its have a stronger load rating.
Expensive gimmick loads of cheaper ways of achieving the same thing
Now they are going bankrupt
So I hear. Sad to hear of any company going that way.