Install a Zumo XT on your BMW factory nav mount. (Adapter 3D Motorrad)
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
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In this video I show how you can use your factory nav mount to power a Zumo XT. Granted you do loose the wiz wheel functionality, but I never used it anyways.
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Pat, thanks so much for sharing this video. I wanted to use my original mount and wiring for the Garmin Zumo XT so this was the solution I was looking for. I'm so glad you provided the link to buy the part. I was a bit apprehensive to order the part from Italy but I decided to take a chance. It showed up 4 days later and installed really easy thanks to your video. Works like a charm and I couldn't be happier. Thanks again for the video and link. Much appreciated!
Awesome glad I could help. Funny thing is I got mine just as fast but took way longer to get something that was already in the states.
Add another to the list of people happy that you did this video. I didn't know this product existed till I saw it here. As in your case, I ordered it and had it in my hands in Ohio in 4 days from Italy. Mine also came with nuts preinstalled and the right length screws. In about 10 minutes I was in business. Thanks Pat, and hats off to "adapter 3D motorrad" for an awesome product!
Glad it helped!! It is an awesome product for sure, but I have since changed to something different. Video to come lol
This is a sharp factory looking setup. Thanks for the walkthrough. I'm going to try it on my own 2016 R 1200 RT.
Welcome. Hope you like it!! It worked well.
Thanks, Pat. I installed mine this week and it works great. I'm glad I stumbled upon your video. Cheers!
Thank you. Glad it helped!
Ordered my xt2 and the 3dam adapter today. Hope to havr both of them in around a week. Thanks for the vid.
Cool! Hope you enjoy them both!!
THIS SIMPLE FIX REALLY GETS BETTER EVERY DAY. MINE CAME IN WITH THE RIGHT LENGTH SCREWS AND FOUR HAT WASHERS THAT WENT DOWN IN THE MOUNT SO THAT PROBABLY DID THE JOB FOR THE FOUR EXTRA WASHERS YOU NEEDED AND IT DID MAKE ME REALIZE THE HOLES WERE FILLED WITH A RUBBER INSERT SO ONCE ALL IS TIGHT THERE IS A BIT OF A HIGH FREQUENCEY VIBRATION SOFTENING. THE 3 D PRINTING QUALITY SEEMS TO ME TO BE MORE REFINED WITH THIS LATEST ITERATION. ALL IN I FIND THE WHOLE THING JUST SPLENDID. THOSE FOLK IN ITALY GOT THEIR HEAD TOGETHER. THEY INCLUDED A SMALL SCREW AND ZUMO HAD TWO SCREWS IN THE XT PACKAGING. I ENDED UP WITH FOUR EXTRA LONG SCREW AS WEL ASSUMING THEY MUST BE FOR A DIFFERENT MOUNTING OPTION. I ALSO HAD FITMENT WORRIES ON MY ADJUSTABLE WINDSCREEN I RETRO FITTED MY 750 GS WHICH IS FOUND ON 850 GSADVENTURES MODELS . I FOUND THE EXTRA PROTRUSION WAS MORE THAN ENOUGH TO GIVE ME THE ROOM FOR THE ADJUSTER. LONG STORY SHORT THIS WAS A REALLY GOOD SOLUTION FOR MY LITTLE MIDNIGHT TRIPLE BLACK 750.
Awesome! Glad you like it.
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Thanks
Just bought the adator for my GS1250 and like you recived it within seven days. Just recently discovered that there is a bike shop here in the UK that sells them too (Adventure Bike Shop) and at the same price as from Italy. Nice video and will help alot when fitting the new security slider.
Glad it helped!! It has worked well for me. The only negative is the Zuni software when the bike starts. Sometimes it doesn’t realize the gps has external power and runs the gps battery down.
@@PatsAdventuresTravels I had to change out the four main bolts as they were too long and would not allow it to sit flush with the BMW's satnav housing even with the washers. But no big thing really.
On thank you! Right on time. I was wondering how the heck to do it!
Cool. Glad it helped!!
Pat, I will be installing per your instructions this weekend. Bought it for my 300 Rally and CRF450L - but figured I might as well just have one unit so I bought the adapter... Like you for my GSA, it took about five days from wherever it came from - I think mine came from CZ. Thank you so much for the helpful info and instruction.
Glad I can help. That's one of the goals of my channel! enjoy.
Outstanding! I was going to mount the Zumo with custom wiring but saw your video and liked this better due to retention of factory lock mechanism. The Italians were out of stock for a few weeks but was able to pick up the adapter, simple clean install, good to go. Just wanted to drop a note to say thank you! Would be nice if someone could 3D print a new vanity plate/cover to use when Zumo not mounted but it works great as is. Cheers!
Welcome! glad it helped!! I agree. A cover would be awesome.
Thank you, very useful video 😉👍
Glad it helped!
I ordered two of these last November (2022); one for the wife's 2021 GS750 and one for a 2022 GS850 I had ordered. I had the same experience with shipping. They arrived in 5 days and my GPSs took 3 weeks. I'm in a conundrum now however, because I just opened them (my GS850 took 8 months to arrive after ordering so I just put the unopened adapters away until it arrived) and neither adapter arrived with the adapter plate that has the two contacts and attaches to the main plate with 4 screws. All I received was two of the locking mechanisms and two of the main adapter plates that have the 3DAM logo on them so now I'm trying to get the rest of the parts I need which is a PITB when dealing with an overseas company I can't just call.
Now I feel like an idiot. After reading one of the posts below, I realized the other piece came with the GPS...those were unopened until today as well. This was not obvious from the ExNav tutorial.
Yeah I was about to reply, but you found it already. Sorry for the confusion.
I tried this mechanism but have had nothing but trouble! Firstly the slide section shattered....the plastic is way too brittle....this was replaced. The next was the base. There is obviously some electronics in it to drop the voltage from 12 to 5 volts. that managed to work 2 times before failing. Now the store is closed for holidays in Italy!!! Can't win! Hopefully they will replace the base and quickly once they open again. I have a 4,000km safari starting mid August which is the reason I purchased the adaptor and Zumo 6 weeks ago!. Hopefully I am the only one who is having so many problems!
Wow. That sucks! I had no issues of any kind with mine. I believe it is 3d printed based on the way it looks. I don't have mine installed anymore to check the voltage. I have been experimenting with a tablet instead of a GPS. Mixed results on that.
Zumo xt doesn't take time to realize that power supply is off. This is a canbus feature of the bike. Canbus cuts the power 1 minute later from bike shut down.
Frage. Wenn ich die sperre abschließe ist dann nur der Adapter sicher oder auch das Navi? /ist das navi dann auch abgeschlossen wie bei der Organalen Halterung?
Alles ist gesperrt, genau wie beim Nav6. Everything is locked just like the Nav6.
@@PatsAdventuresTravels Thanks
Very good. Thank you.
Thank you
@@PatsAdventuresTravels I ordered it from the same outfit. I live in Alaska. In June I am heading down to Seattle to grab my bike off the ship and head over to Monticello and ride up the Utah BDR and then the Montana section of the continental divide trail.
@@robb907 that sounds awesome! Good luck with the Canadian border
@@PatsAdventuresTravels I think I’m a wanted man in BC LOL
I’ve driven through Canada 800 times in a Peterbilt so I don’t think it’s going to be enough of a better experience on a motorcycle so I’m gonna head back to Seattle and play around on the way and ship my bike back to Alaska
@@robb907 Oh cool.
Glad you did this. I see the Zumo being promoted but what are the main advantages of this over the Garmin V or VI that came with my GS? My two main gripes with my VI is that’s it’s not very bright or easy to read in the sunlight and I have to manually upload routes to the unit which keeps me from using it very much. Thanks!
EDIT: One more question, does it still allow all the other functionality you have with the BMW wonderwheel control? (I have a non-TFT GSW if that matters.) Thanks again!
No wonderwheel control at all. You only get the power pins to run the GPS. I never used the wheel anyways so for me no big deal. Yes way brighter and slightly bigger! If you want to make routes on PC you'll still have to upload them to the unit I believe. If it can be done via wifi I am not aware, but I am still learning what I can and can't do with it.
Thanks for the quick reply!
@@bradb2514 I guess one other thing is the new Zumo has more back and off road features like I overlander. Going to try using some of that in the very near future.
Hello!
I noticed that when you started the engine there was a short squeak (min 3.59). That sound is sometimes heard in me too. Do you know where it sounds? Thank you.
I do believe it is the exhaust valve that squeeks some times.
Would this work with the Zumo XT2 also?
I have no idea. If the make the adapter then I see no reason why it wouldn't but I have never seen an XT2 in person so I am just guessing at this point.
HI PAT . Ray back again. I just got my 3D adapter in , like you suggested I ordered the extra lock (they call it a security device) Ironically you don't really need the different lock mounted as I mounted out to my cradle when it came n today and just for grins I tried the lock and the lock lever that was on my cradle locked on the the adapter and prevented it from being removed. Maybe I am premature in judgement as I have not got the sumo XT in shipment yet so we'll see . The existing lock slides over the top of the adapter and prevents it from going anywhere after you take out the key. There must be another reason that wont work with the actual Garmin bits.
I will repost after I see of to works wot the mew XT in a couple of days/cheers
Cool. Yes it will lock but you'll be able to push the release at the top and just take the GPS off the bike without that extra piece. It stops you from being able to release the GPS from it's cradle. Hope you get it soon!
@@PatsAdventuresTravels thanks Pat, I see what your are saying now. it will lock the adapter in place but not the device itself , is that it ? cheers
@@rayelliott5661 Yes that's it.
My BMW Nav 6 died (bought it in May 2017), so rather than buy another I have bought this adaptor and will get the XT. Seems to be a much better unit than the Nav 6 with more functionality. Interested to hear how you find using it. Here in the UK the Nav 6 is £450 (approx) whereas the XT is £ 347.
It is way better for sure. The biggest complaint I have and can be fixed by Garmin but won't be is.... When you power the bike up the GPS comes on under external power. Then when you start the bike the GPS complains that it lost power and will shut down or you can press cancel to stop it. Press cancel and it runs on battery power at that point. Most of the time it switches back over to external power after a few minutes to several minutes. Every now and then it never does and stays on battery power. I had to pay 120 US Dollars just to get the adapter because it comes from Italy. Well worth it over all!!
Hi Scott, Did you buy the 3DM adaptor kit, how much and from where please?
@@geoffreybell5376 There's a link in the description where to buy the adapter. It is the only place I know of that you can get it.
The Nav VI might be covered under warranty. Ask Garmin to replace it.
Where do you get the power for the XT? Do you connect its cord to the original cradle or do you disconnect BMW Motorrad cradle's power connection and add a new plug for XT that uses the original GPS power source plug under the front fairing?
The adapter uses the power from the factory mount. No wiring of any kind needed.
quick question, will the BMW nav wheel on the bikes controls/handle bar work with the Garmin unit..
No it will not.
Great video and idea! Do I have to purchase a whole new MC mount kit or just the XT mounting plate? Thanks!
Just the adapter. It will go onto the existing BMW cradle. It has been far better than the Nav6!
THANKS I SAW YOUR FLOG I BOUGHT ZUMO XT FOR MY R 1250 GSA ALSO BRACKET
THE NAV 6 THE TOUCH SCREEN IS NOT WORK ANY MORE AND IT VERY HIGH PRICE
DO YOU THINK ZUMO XT BETTER THAN NAV 6
I THINK FOR ME YES.
Yes I like the Zumo XT a lot more than the BMW Nav 6
Hi Pat, many thanks for this video, particularly as I am considering swapping my Nav6 for the XT. It has now been a while since you installed the adapter; how is it all working. Many thanks, Andy.
Only issue has ever been power. When you start the bike the garmin momentarily loses power and it wants to shut down. But that is a flaw in the software. Most of the time I tell it to cancel shut down and after a bit it realizes power has been restored. Every once in a while it doesn't and runs off battery. Others have said if you just let it shut down and then turn it back on everything is good.
@@PatsAdventuresTravels many thanks for your prompt reply. I have been looking at a variety of options and it is between this adaptor or plugging directly into the BMW’s power that avoids the problem you describe; I shall give it more thought. Thanks again.
@@andrewtofts7884 You could always remove the factory cradle and mount the XT in the same spot and run the wires back to the battery.
@@PatsAdventuresTravels Hi Pat, thanks for your reply. I am now seriously considering the Touratech lockable mount to replace the BMW mount.
SORRTY . YOU SHOW A DIFFERENT LOCKING MECHANISM . DID THAT PART COME WITH THE ITALIAN COVER PART OR WAS IT ORDERED SEPARATELY ?
It is a separate piece you have to order separate.
Hello Pat, I just received shipment of the e-Nav XT adapter for my 2018 R1200RT LC. I am still waiting for my Zumo XT to arrive as it will also contain a bracket that needs to be attached to the 3D Motorrad adapter. But from watching your video, and granted your bike is a GS not an RT, it is not clear to me as to why you had to play with the navigation cradle locking mechanism? Either I don't understand or there is missing information from the manufacturer of the adapter. Can you explain why one has to take apart the locking mechanism at all? Thanks much!
Because the stock locking adapter will not slide over and lock once the e Nav is installed. If you bought the e Nav locking adapter then it will allow the factory cradle to lock the e Nav on the bike and that will block the locking tab on the GPS itself so it can't be easily stolen. I would also think it would help the GPS not fall off on rough roads but I can't swear to that. Hope that helps!
Thanks for this Pat. Can you still use the wheel on the grip after this swap out?✌
Nope. But I never liked the wheel anyways. I like the touch screen better. Even when I had the Nav 6.
T8 TORX on my 2020 R1250 GS, not T7
Thanks!!
I’m wondering if these parts work on a 2022 R1250 GS??
I would assume so if it is the same bmw nav mount
Hello Pat !!! I can't find link for piece you buy from Italy, Pls can you link to me. Thank you
It is in the description and I'll post it here for you. www.adapter3dmotorrad.com/en/...
I thought I would check back in on the Zumo XT. I just got one on sale over Black Friday. Has your Italian mount given you any problems? I see some mixed reviews on it, but I like the price point and simplicity. I’m trying to decide how I will mount the Zumo on my GS now. A winter project. Thanks for your input.
I have had no problems with the mount. The only complaint is the fact that the Garmin will go on battery power after you start the bike. Eventually it'll switch back over to bike power. Every once in a while it doesn't. Over all glad I did it.
Great. Thanks a lot.
Where do you get the new "locking piece" from?
The link is in the description below.
Hi, I bought the same adapter and find that it stops charging when iI start the engine. Have you had the same experience?
Yes its annoying. Most of the time it comes back. Worst case I have had to cycle power on the GPS.
@@PatsAdventuresTravels This is the answer that I received from a3DM: Hello, it is a software problem of the garmin Zumo XT, when the bmw starts the engine it interrupts the power supply of the services for a moment and the XT goes into shutdown, if you click on the button it continues to stay on with its battery but does not go to seek more external power. Few XTs do this problem and garmin is working to fix it. The software needs to be updated, for now it is better to let the XT go to shutdown without touching anything, it will turn back on immediately and remain under charge.
When the XT does not receive power, it checks the voltage on the connector pins and you will see that there is a voltage of 5V.
@@michaelhoebrechts9556 I hope Garmin is working on it. I kind of figured it was them. Thanks a lot for the awesome information! I am sure others will benefit greatly from that info too.
Hello Pat ..can you tell me if these contacts are useful or a danger if i use this adapter ?
Not sure what you mean by that? I have had no issues of any kind with the bike if that is what you mean. All this adapter does is use the power contacts that used to power the nav 6 to power the zumo xt.
@@PatsAdventuresTravels thanks for your response .i ve a little difference on 4 contacts who are bigger and like in one on the back side..i cannot join a photo to explain here .. 3DAM says that it is a new version..
@@christopheg7827 Ok was not aware they changed things.
Does the adapter plate come with the 3d mount
Yes it comes with everything you need to apply it to the BMW mount. If you want the locking option you'll have to buy that. Check their website. It explains it all really well.
HOW DID THE NEW LOCK COME FROM ?
I am not sure what you mean.
But does your wheel still work to control the screen still ?
No, but I never used it anyway. I find just using the touch screen easier and faster.
Were did u buy ur zumo xt
Online. There are a lot of places to get it. Most charge the same price. touratech sells it. the gps store, i think garmin too.
Where did you get the adapter?
A link to it is in the description box.
Cheers.
Pat - Hope this is OK - Anyone need a reasonably priced NAV VI? Please delete if not acceptable behavior.
I did a video of mine showing it worked and put it on ebay. Good luck!!
For Pete sake just buy the BMW GPS
Had one. It ghosted constantly I was sick of putting up with it or sending it back for a replacement that kept ghosting too.
After three failures with the BMW GPS, I went with the Zumo XT