Broly Vs Jiren | Why it's NOT EVEN CLOSE!!!!
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nah bruh piccolo said goku and vegeta probably wouldn’t be able to take down cell max but that’s obviously cap like cmon so the whole probably statement isn’t valid
Kid boo vs broly is what I need My top 5: Kid boo,Broly,Goku super sayjin 100,Jiren,Freza
That music @6:00 just brought back so many memories
and the goku statement doesnt really make sense because we saw whis say that jiren who faced omen 1 say that he is the one stronger than his god the supressed jiren and then later on when kefla went ssj2 whis and some others stated that kefla surpassed goku omen 1 who was equal to supressed jiren what means kefla surpassed belmod too and since the anime tells us belmod is stronger than beerus it would mean that kefla is stronger than beerus aswell what doesnt make sense at all since goku wasnt even sure about broly being stronger than beerus while and broly was dogwalking goku vegeta without even going ssj his ssj was equal to gogeta ssj and put in mind that the same broly ssj forced goku and vegeta to run away without using ssjbkk20 or ssjbe they knew they didnt stand a chance and ran away the same gogeta at base form was dodging broly ssj his attacks like nothing and even slapt them away gogeta base alone is stronger than goku vegeta ssjbe or kk20 and broly ssj was on par with a gogeta ssj what is another 50 times multiplayer on top of the fusion and later on he faced gogeta at ssjb what is even crazier and he was tanking it like a champ at the end ssjb fusion was just too much broly LSSJ would do a way better job against ssjg and gogeta knew it and skipped it so broly is miles ahead of kefla who surpassed the supressed jiren vs omen 1 who was already stronger than belmod who was stated to be stronger than beerus and goku still wasnt sure about broly being stronger than beerus like it doesnt make sense using whis his logic broly would absolutly mop the floor with beerus since goku alone was enough for kefla and broly alone needed gogeta ssjb to be defeated
right so what’s ur point
Sup homie.
2:15 It talks about completed UI not sign.
Bro jiren eat broly for breakfast that was only a few months after the top goku and vegeta were far under him still
@@malikthomas8452 ok?
Not sure what it has to do with what i said but.
Broly > Jiren.
@@Wexor. bro you don’t know shit about scaling broly can not beat jiren what proof or feats do he have he was getting his ass beat by goku before transforming and blue couldn’t make jiren flinch even with kaoken jiren slams until feats show
Broly is stronger
@@malikthomas8452 ?
“Don’t know shit about scaling” yet presumably, you would know and yet you compare them using supressed broly and supressed jiren. Yikes.
Broly has been said to be the strongest enemy/opponent in like more than ten sources to name a few: Toriyama, V Jump, TOEI website and twitter
What if Broly had God level or angle level it's a problem
how you gonna say anime only and then use various sources outside the anime
You can use sources that apply to anime when talking about anime.
Broly camnot adapt and grow infinitely. He only ever overpwered oppoents by transforming. His ikari form was getting slapped by blue goku and would never ever catch up to him or beat him. The only way he surpassed Goku was by going super saiyan. Idk where this false notion of infinite adaptive ability came from.
Jiren will crush broly.
Broly slams😂
Cope
Brody would dominate jiren ain’t no gogeta broly would adapt and over power jiren
Stroger=broly
In a quick fight=jirem
Long fight=broly
in my opinion i think jiren would barely win because since broly has no control over himself and he probably is stronger than jiren but again since he has no control over himself he has no idea what he is doing and since jiren has a lot of technique it would be a close fight
That's the problem, ki control, Jiren has a full mastery of ki control which is why he can overpower op opponents, in DBHero movie Vegeta said that Jiren Wasn't actually that much stronger than then (which is a confusing statement btw), he just had pure control of his ki which put him at a different league. Jiren can take Broly's lack of ki control to his advantage. As Broly is training under Whis now, when he learns to control his ki he will be formidable.
@@abetterworld96 but then again broly was able to take damage from gogeta ssjb who is in terms of power miles ahead of all of them and since jiren his attacks arent that powerfull against broly its gonna be a problem because since jiren cant finish broly or damage him fr broly is just gonna adapt and learn from jiren his style of fighting now imagine a broly that becomes stronger as he fights not going down and tranking everything jiren uses till he adapt to his skill jiren has no answer to broly even MUI doesnt have a answer to it its like UE just without skill but the thing is he adapts to your skill mid fight we saw him go from below vegeta base to adapt to gogeta his skill and force gogeta to use ssjb to finish the job and even gogeta at ssjb had hard time finishing the job he had to kill him to win and if he didnt go for the kill gogeta would have defused or broly would have catched up
@@theycallmejay2310 first of all, there's no official statement suggesting how further Gogeta is from Jiren or MUI Goku. 2nd, saiyans are known to be unlimited and Broly took that to another level but even with that all saiyans have a certain limit to how much stronger they can grow at a given fight due to stamina, they can either grow stronger once they've gotten used to or have mastered their strongest form, and as we saw Broly in his LSSJ form was miles behind Gogeta blue, his fighting was starting to get sloppy and was completely losing control as he couldn't get any stronger or keep up, and you're capping, at what part Gogeta blue struggled against Broly? As far as I'm concerned he completely overpowered Broly to the point that he felt hopeless, ssj Gogeta alone was beating the shi out of ssj Broly (which is an equivalent transformation) which made him resort to LSSJ, which after Gogeta turning into blue the tables were quickly flipped, and this makes me understand that in same transformations Gogeta has the edge, so long as Broly can't control his ki. Ssj Broly didn't overwhelm Goku and Vegeta blue as much as Jiren overwhelmed ssjblue evolution and blue kaioken x20, all without breaking a sweat. Looking at his growth rate, I'm not convinced LSSJ would be that much of power up enough to surpass Jiren or MUI Goku. And saying Jiren's power isn't that powerful against Broly like it's been proven or there's been a fair reference to even compare their powers is not a smart way to go as the best reference we have so far is Goku and Vegeta's blue forms and by using that ain't no way Broly could be miles stronger than Jiren. Now, I've seen statements suggesting that if Broly could control his ki, in his LSSJ alone he could've been a serious threat to Gogeta blue and could've even overpowered him, and that's from the officials, so, it comes down to ki control, same I said about Jiren, being formidable due to have mastered his ki perfectly and used it with precision.
@@abetterworld96 first of all i never said gogeta blue had a hard time defeating broly i said he had a hard time finishing him and we saw it since broly was tanking everything pain or no pain he wasnt defeated goeta had to go for the kill to make it count because broly was never going down second of all gogeta ssj was never beating the shit out pf broly when gogeta turned ssj broly punched him flying and then gogeta did the same and they started going toe to toe till gogeta his kick the whole fight between ssj broly and ssj gogeta even the magazine said that ssj broly and ssj gogeta went toe to toe another thing broly is litt named the strongest enemy when the movie launched and before usinf the excuse about jiren not being a enemy a TOP episode litterly called jiren a enemy and like it or not vegeta whis already debunked the jiren being that much stronger statement even vegeta said it in the latest movie that their powers wherent that different at all jiren was just more skilled while broly on the other hand had the power to rival post TOP gogeta ssjg atleast there was a magazine dropped once saying that broly LSSJ his power wasnt even way weaker than gogeta blue his broly was just mindless a freak of nature another thing incomplete cell max who is stated to be stronger than goku and vegeta and even orange piccolo needs to be completed to be able to defeat broly like it or not those are words of akira himself broly is still on top of the game even in the LN of dbs broly frieza himself who saw jiren fp stated that broly at ssj alone was the strongest warrior he has ever seen there is 0 proof of jiren being stronger than broly meanwhile there is 1000 of statements tweets magazines intervieuws with proof of broly being way stronger than jiren jiren aint even orange piccolo level for godssake let alone broly and saying LSSJ isnt that much of a power up is just being stupid when broly went LSSJ gogeta skipped ssj2 ssj3 ssjg and went directly ssjb and even at ssjb he couldnt one shot him ko him he kept whooping his ass 1000 times only for him to power up again and after that power up gogeta started to go for the kill since he knew there was no other way anymore and jiren can be proud if he survives post TOP gogeta ssj1 because his skill alone aint saving his ass with that much power difference he is exposed mate like it or not
@@theycallmejay2310 you wrote me an essay, so it was inevitable that I responded with an essay. first, defeat and finish, what's the difference? I don't get it? 2nd, Gogeta's intention wasn't to kill Broly, but immobilize/weaken him and knock him back to his senses, that's why he used soul punisher to see if he was pure hearted or evil and soul punisher destroys evil souls, but if they're good it doesn't, Gogeta realizing that knew he couldn't just kill Broly, if he was 100% sure Broly was evil from the beginning he would've went for deadlier attacks like he did to ssj rose 3 Goku in the non canon show, it was clear Goku Black was evil. Ok, they went toe to toe in their ssj form yet Gogeta landed more blows and Broly was looking helpless while Gogeta smiling and Broly was forced to anticipate his legendary transformation which he always does when he's overwhelmed? Yeah right, that makes a lot of sense. Anyway, my point is that while being in the same transformation at this rate Broly ain't beating Gogeta, he can only do that with greater raw strength which was not the case there coz despite definitely having slightly more raw power, his lack of skills were not enough to overcome his foe. They called Broly an enemy, Jiren was not an enemy, just like every other fighter in the T.O.P, some of which were friends of Goku, DB statements are never explicit coz the writer himself is inconsistent. Now had they said the strongest antagonist, yes, coz that's what Jiren and Broly had in common. I'm sorry, pls provide me with the exact scene Jiren was said to be an enemy. And about the Jiren not being far, I mentioned that earlier, which then again comes down to ki control, coz if Jiren not being so far from Goku and Vegeta, tanked them no matter how strong they got, they multiplied thier powers multiple times, from blue to kaioken x20 to blue evolution to MUI and still Jiren managed to not only overpower them but went toe to toe with MUI at full power. Now you tell me, assuming Vegeta referred to their blue forms as not being far from Jiren (coz it can't be MUI, since if that's the case then that statement would be pointless coz it's obvious; and the other reason is coz Vegeta compared Jiren to him and Goku, and MUI was leagues above Vegeta's strongest form at that time, so it's either blue evolution and blue + kaioken x20 or simply blue), how did Jiren still disrespectfully overpower them after they unleashed their strongest power and even worse against MUI? Now this could only have one of two answers, he's either too strong or his ki control too perfect, and with all of this ironically that statement implies that Jiren can pretty much beat anyone at any level of power, coz the STATEMENT suggests he doesn't need brute strength to beat his opponents since he was not far from ssj blue yet was clapping forms stronger than blue which mean were stronger than himself, again leading us to noticing the writer's inconsistency, coz it was also literally stated in the T.O.P itself by Jiren himself and Whis that he was at the peak of brute strength itself that he was seeking for something greater than strength and Whis still stated that Jiren was at the level of destroyers and perhaps even surpassed that level and Goku said Broly could be stronger than Beerus based off the power he's seen from Beerus during their own battle and Whis is wiser than Goku and knows destroyers more than Goku knows Broly or Beerus, to make it worse we literally saw the terror Jiren's power caused to the gods every single time he unleashed it, something neither Goku's nor Vegeta's powers did to the gods (Goku only impressed them not for power, but for mastering a technique they're struggling to master) and then Toryama says Jiren wasn't strong? Contradiction and inconsistency at its best. Also, you didn't mention that Vegeta said that Jiren's technique was the ultimate technique to fare off well in fights which is why he was training to master it coz brute power alone is futile, you did not mention any of that. All claims you've mentioned have been contradicted many times, they're all implicit and none of them proves anything about Broly's level. Buddy, you're just making me laugh, Gogeta skipped ssj2 coz LSSJ is not ssj2, it's way more powerful and Gogeta doesn't have LSSJ form, skipped ssj3 coz he either couldn't transform into it or he could transform into it but wouldn't be strong enough and is energy draining like ssjgod, the only transformation he had up his sleeve was ssj blue for god's sake. About Gogeta blue beating/not beating, going for the kill or not, I'm not explaining again coz you repeated exactly what you had said which I replied to, so you either reread my previous reply or watch the fight and describe to me in details what you see, exactly how you see it.