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Why Roger Moore & Tony Curtis Didn’t Get On During the Persuaders
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- čas přidán 7. 08. 2024
- Do you think The Persuaders would have been as successful as it was if it weren't for the on and off-screen tensions between Roger Moore and Tony Curtis and do you think the series deserved to be renewed for several more seasons?
▬Contents of this video▬
00:00 - Intro
00:43 - Casting a Classic
02:33 - Opposites Attract
03:16 - Garlic Breath And Uneven Paychecks
04:10 - The Tension Paid Off
04:42 - Popular Yet Short-LIved
06:48 - Post-Persuaders Pals
09:36 - Outro
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The Persuaders was a British TV series about two international playboys who teamed up to fight crime and charm women along the French Riviera. Behind the scenes, the show's stars, Roger Moore and Tony Curtis had a less-than-harmonious relationship that threatened to derail their hit show.
Roger Moore was already a TV star when he was cast as Lord Brett Sinclair, a suave and sophisticated English aristocrat with a penchant for adventure. He had played Simon Templar in The Saint for six seasons and was on his way to becoming James Bond.
Tony Curtis was a Hollywood legend who starred in classics like Some Like It Hot, The Defiant Ones, and Spartacus. He was cast as Danny Wilde, a self-made American millionaire with a wisecracking attitude and a flashy wardrobe.
The Persuaders! was created by Lew Grade, a British media mogul who wanted to produce an action-comedy series that would appeal to both sides of the Atlantic. He hired veteran writers and directors like Terry Nation, Brian Clemens, and Basil Dearden to craft witty and thrilling stories for the dynamic duo.
The show premiered on ITV and ABC in 1971 and became an instant success. The chemistry between Moore and Curtis was undeniable on screen, as they traded quips and punches with equal flair. The show also featured exotic locations, glamorous guest stars, and iconic cars - a Ferrari Dino 246 GT for Curtis and an Aston Martin DBS for Moore.
But while the fans loved them, Moore and Curtis did not love each other. In fact, they clashed over everything from their acting styles to their personal habits. Their egos were as big as their salaries, which were reported at $1 million each per season.
What caused their rift? How did they cope with working together? And how did it affect the quality of the show? In this facts-packed video, we will explore why Roger Moore & Tony Curtis didn't get along during The Persuaders! - one of the most ambitious and expensive TV series of its time.
Why Roger Moore & Tony Curtis Didn’t Get On During the Persuaders
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Yes Please !!!
Would like to some older actors like John Justin (1940's "Thief of Bahgdad" & "The Sound Barrier" 1952
Also Margaret Lockwood, James Mason & Patricia Roc who's portrait hung in The White House Washington
Their Gainsborough studio film classic "The Wicked Lady" is a cinematic masterpiece
My husband worked for a TV rental company in London at that time and installed a tv for Tony Curtis at his rented flat in Chester Square. He said he was so polite and humble. He gave my husband a £5 tip which was a lot to us back then and signed his autograph to me. A nice man.
A Man of the People.
Wow 👍
Nice story 🙂😇
Bullshit. Cheap journalism.
Tony and Roger got on fine in real life. In the series the dynamic they had worked so well because they were pretty much being themselves.
An unforgettable 24 episodes that capture the era like nothing else.
Indeed-that's why I don't understand "The didn't get on" tag. Roger Moore always praised and thanked Tony Curtis for getting him to give up smoking . The Persuaders was born out of a Saint episode where a brash American teamed up with the saint to smash a crime ring , Great to drift back to the 70's with this show,
I agree. From what I've read in both their books,they actually got along very well,and remained friends until their final day's.
Another click bait title with no basis in fact.
Its BS, Never heard anything other than they were great friends. great show, ahead of its time, a total blast
@@timpenfield5 Absolutely !!!!!👍
I am now 62 and come from the Netherlands. I think this series is one of the best from that time. The musical theme is one of the best tv themes ever, along with the theme of Department S and The Avengers. Where did the time go. This really was a perfect duo.
Don't forget the theme tune to Randall & Hopkirk (deceased)
Department S was wonderful.. 👍🏼
@@andrewcooper-barnes6165 How could I have missed this one. Thanks for the tip. I immediately downloaded it. Brilliant
They was all good I'm 61 remember them well.
Arguably, a magic time for tv those days... I was a child in Argentina in the same period and I had exactly the same feeling. Now almost your same age and in Canada, I don't watch television at all...
Perfect pairing as Actor's...both knew their craft 100%...both on par with each other.
No other Actors could have played the roles better in the Persuaders than Curtis and Moore...it was made for them.
RIP Tony and Roger. 🙏
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One of my favorite series when kid. Their chemistry made the whole thing.
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I loved The Persuaders and they were both perfectly cast.
I still have my 45rpm of the theme tune and my 1973 Persuaders annual book. Absolutely loved it as a 10 year old.
Is that the one with 'The theme from Crown Court' on the B-side, Dave? If so, I had it too 🙂
@@stuartmiller7419 Hi Stuart, no mine has ‘The Girl with the Sun in Her Hair" as the B side, also a John Barry composition. It was used in the Sunsilk shampoo ads. I do remember the Crown Court tune though.
@@daveowen9481 You're absolutely right, Dave. I was getting confused between the B-side of 'Theme from The Persuaders' and the B-side of 'Theme from Van der Valk'. Happy days but a long, long time ago. Cheers. 😁
Mine has New System Persil Automatic on the B side.
Moore was a terrific actor and was very savvy when it came to the film and tv business. He became an executive producer on The Saint which earned him more money. Just as well The Persuaders was canned after one series because it opened up the opportunity to play Bond and the rest of the story is history. I do urge people to watch one of his less well known films but a brilliant role in what has become a cult classic and was one of Moore's favourites 'The Man who Haunted Himself' It's here you really see his skills as an actor.
I knew before i clicked on "see more" you wre going to say that movie. It's very good in spite of his lesser known films
Up thuking yours
Tc jew
They were both very charismatic, and talented Men, I like how they were able to rise above petty differences , high class ! I'll miss them both
I liked it. 2 very different personalities. The filming in various locations around Europe and the glamour made it interesting. I wished they had made several seasons.
I was about 10 or 11 when the Persuaders was being shown in the UK. I loved it. The theme tune immediately takes me back to those wonderful days.
I was 8 when it showed in England, instantly mesmerized by the theme tune. Especially loved the episode about the family inheritance as each one was bumped off.
I watched the Persuaders in 1984 on German Television being 13 years old.
And even this was more than a decade later than you watched, I feel the same every time hearing that theme!
It was a brilliant show, it should have gone on a lot longer than it did. I loved it. It was a lot of fun. God rest their soul's. They were a cheerful couple on screen from what I remember. I'd love to see it all again.
It was a load of crap 💩
I loved this show. Watched it all the time in Australia. Back then I thought they were so handsome. TC was great in The Boston Strangler. I met him at his book signing. He was very charismatic and the audience loved him.
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I loved The Persuaders !!!! , one of my favorites shows at that time by far , both Curtis and Moore just great !!!!
We would all gather as a family around the TV and we absolutely loved this brilliant casting these two super stars made beautiful TV
Great series, good to hear they remained lifelong friends. Roger never seemed to take himself too seriously and had a great sense of humour. I enjoy watching his interviews.
Tony Curtis lent his voice to the Flintstones as Stoney Curtis
Best thing about the show was actually the brilliant John Barry theme.
And the montage of backstory visuals that went with it. One of the neatest introductory credits a TV series ever had. The meeting-cute in E1 is skilfully done too. It set the tone of the show: that blend of cheesy luxury, 1970s bad taste in clothes and decor, mayhem and double-act comedy which distinguishes it from Lew Grade's more serious 1960s action-adventure hours.
The series was perfect as it was; it was even “admitted” behind the “Iron Curtain” (I watched it at the beginning of the 80’s as a kid in Hungary and Cuba respectively); and it inspired even extra “episodes” in comics, with the two protagonist clearly recognizable. Only pity was that it was so short lived.
The comics version were in Countdown plus TV Action drawn by various artists such as Harry Lindfield and José Ortiz. I still have them. They are really quite faithful to the charm of the series.
Hungary and Cuba.
You got around.
@@peterpiper831 not so complicated: I am a Hungarian who lived as a kid in Cuba for some years.🙂
@@Memorixt
I never thought it was complicated -- just unusual.
Many Hungarians who left their homeland went to Western countries for a new start.
Like my parents, who came to Australia.
Moore said they got on fine - 'I was always pissed (on champagne) & Tony always stoned'.
I remember as a kid in the 70's, the Persuaders that tune and the whole build up was exciting. They were different characters, and maybe they just told for publicity, that they could not get along. But they had one thing in common; both were typecasted in many parts they played. Allways the same characters of happy go around guys, good with the ladies etc. The really good parts they would not get anymore, Hollywood had it's favorite male A list stars at that time who were at the nominees for an Oscar year after year.
They serve as a great example of two very different people/approaches who got along despite their differences. Definitely could use much more of that these days!
One of the best Theme songs of any tv-show 👌
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Thanks you just played a clip with my Dad in, how cool!
I remember The Persuaders the first time around on Granada TV (ITV's channel in the North West of England) and the repeats later on. It's watchable again and again.
Muy buena serie, una de mis favoritas con tan buenos actores, los carros, las chicas, bellas locaciones, muy buena.
Just reading Roger Moores biography i think Tony Curtis played a powerful role in the Boston Strangler to my mind one of his finest performances.
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One of my favourites from childhood television thought the series was great.
I loved this show as a kid.
Along with Randall and Hopkirk (deceased)
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Not only was it a fun show to watch, it has the best theme tune ever .John Barry masterpiece .
Wonderful theme based on 2 chords really.
Had the pleasure of talking with Terry Nation at a con, years ago. It was because of his connection with Blake 7, but I think I surprised and pleased him for remembering his other series (My Partner The Ghost, The Persuaders, etc)
He signed a paperback with had adapted two of the Persuaders episodes, one of which he wrote. I commented on the photo of the pair on the back of the book:
"How can two people be so different and get along so well?'
Terry said 'That was the idea'
It was an wonderful moment. 🙂
Two super cute men and actors! I think everyone loved this series.
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@@FactsVerseUK I saw all the episodes last year!
As a kid growing up in the early 70’s Philippines, the Persuaders was one of the strings of English TV shows at that time. There were other shows around that time like UFO, the champions, the saint, the protectors, but the persuaders with its catchy opening theme seem to bring the most fond memories and nostalgia. We have our fair share of American TV, but nothing compares to British exotics.
I loved this serie and also the theme music. Moore and Curtis were perfect in their roles.
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I saw it in Spanish growing up in South America. I looked forward to each episode. Sheer fun and good entertainment
A great TV series. I once had all 24 episodes on DVD. I've watched them so many times that I have them memorized.
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The lament of MANY a good show that deserved a better chance🤷🏼♂️🤓😎✌🏻
They had the biggest success in Germany, mainly because of the creative dubbing by one Mr Rainer Brandt. Tony Curtis is said to have wanted Mr Brandt to write the scripts for the second season but that plan never came to fruition because du to Moore being hired as the new James Bond. Tony Curtis enjoyed some extra popularity in Germany because he was at a time married to Christine Kaufmann. Mr Brandt once told that Curtis loved the German dubbing since he was able to understand German thanks to his knowledge of Jiddish. Word is, Curtis was disappointed because Moore left the series when Curtis felt he could take it to another level...
When South Africa finally got TV in 1976 when I was 7 years old, one of the late night shows was The Persuaders. I was too young to stay up late, so I only managed to see a few of the episodes back then.
I loved the interaction between Moore and Curtis.
Get out of here, kaffa lover
Eenie meenie miny and...mo
BANG
Vorstedt! Vorstedt!
@@AlfredPartridge you do realize your post makes no sense!
What is 'vorstedt' supposed to mean?
I speak Afrikaans, but you obviously don't.
i met both Roger and Tony two absolute gentlemen, this was back in 1985 it was raining so bad Sir Roger and is then wife louisa invited me into their car to get out of the rain to sign a photo and have a chat what a dream for a 17 year old kid and big Moore fan because of the saint, bond, the persuaders was a sunday thing watching with my dad, and his other work. the man who haunted himself a big fav of mine. they were on their way to the prem of a view to a kill. i met Tony outside the dorchester hotel we had a great photo together and he even took is cowboy hat off so it be a nicer pic he said. he didnt even have his wig on.... legends
Riddled with wrong Facts.
Chief among then being the series was cancelled. It was known at the start that Roger would be most likely be going to play James Bond after the first series had been filmed and would not be able make a second series. He was also one of the producers of the series. ITV did consider carrying on with Curtis and another actor, but it was felt that whoever it would be would not have the same on screen chemistry as Moore & Curtis. Also Curtis had been difficult during the series. So it was not 'cancelled' in the way an American tv series is cancelled. It just never made it to be developed any further with the lack of Roger Moore being available.
Curtis and Moore made the Persuaders ,one of my all time favourite TV shows from the early 70s.
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I say my fav episode was Chain of Events,love the ending.
You are amazing, you did it again, you gave a great, awesome representation of these 2 great stars, who as you mentioned were as different as the sun and the moon, and everyone loved them, thank you for another great video.
not so great lol
You could see from Curtis, in later life, that he really liked Moore.
According to Roger they got on really well and remained good friends for life.
Had a perfect time slot on Friday or Saturday evening here in Denmark
They wanted to do a second series & even had a replacement for Moore lined up - Noel Harrison.
However the producer said it wouldn't be the same without Moore.
They were right.
fantastic show! My four-year-old son and I would watch the reruns several years later.
Here’s the real history of the Pursuaders.
Cary Grant was never considered for the role of Lord Sinclair as he had retired and was in his late 60’s at the time of filming and busy with his business as an executive for Faberge.
The idea for the show came about in one of the last episodes of The Saint called The Ex King of Diamonds, where Simon Templar joined forces with a brash Texas Millionaire (played by Stuart Damon), producer Robert Baker liked the idea so much he envisaged a series about and Englishman and an American (about the same age) as a buddy tv action adventure show. Moore was always the first choice to play Lord Brett Sinclair as Baker had been used to working with him on the Saint. Curtis wasn’t the first choice for Danny Wilde, he wasn’t even the second. Moore wanted either Stuart Damon or David Hedison but Baker thought neither was well known enough and wanted a big Hollywood name for the American market.
Rock Hudson turned it down. And the next choice was Glenn Ford, who also rejected it. It was only then that Curtis was considered as his career had really hit the skids by this point and he had been reduced to appearing in Bawdy Italian sex comedies.
When Tony arrived in England he soon became a pain in the ass to everyone and everything, being arrested for Marijuana possession and constantly turning up to work stoned. He acted like a Hollywood diva most of the time and was very disrespectful to the cast and crew.
He never learnt his lines, made them up as he went along and Roger Moore had to keep up with these constant changes. However, Roger never complained and that’s why the series was able to be made, any other actor would have knocked Curtis on his butt for the things he was doing. Curtis was also performing the most dangerous of stunts putting the entire series in jeopardy.
After the first series, Moore got the Bond Gig and left. There were talks about doing another series with Noel Harrison replacing Moore, but nothing came of it.
Roger and Tony did remain friends, but Moore said it was a difficult series to make because of Tony.
If you watch the documentary that came with the box set, it is apparent that every one involved on the series, (most of whom had worked on The Saint), loved Roger Moore, but loathed Tony Curtis.
Oh don't tell me that. I loved the Persuaders!
Moore & Curtis got on great. I've read both their autobiographies. They were life long friends. This is a load of rubbish.
I think it boils down to the fact they were two very talented but very different men. That difference added to the chemistry rather than took away from it, imo.
I don't think there would have been a Persuaders without these two, or if they made the show it would have never been such a great one. It was exactly what made it unforgettable, two charming, funny, but utterly different personalities, that come together to work. An Englishman and an American they couldn't have been more different. That made it work besides the obvious: their wonderful talents and their looks.
One of my go to shows for agood time, gifted dvds for family, like the locations and these two were straight up funny!
We love watching the Persuaders - an absolute joy seeing two pros having the time of their lives - very nostalgic for these guys
Best class of show ever.
It had it all, too bad US viewers didn't like it, that stopped the cash. I still have so fond memories of those afternoons when I was a child, when my family watched Brett and Danny... just womderful. I bought the Dvds. Greetings from Italy
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I remember watching that as a kid in the 70s and we used to play like we were the Persuaders with my best friend at the time. Was a very cool show. Shame it didn’t last that long would have loved to have seen more shows
I loved the cars the most as a youngster and found Moore's license plate [ BS 1 ] hilarious
Great Show!
I love the show. The european success was partly due to ridiculous and funny dubbing versions in Germany or France. The dubbed version is far more funny than the english original. When Tony Curtis heard the german version (he could speak german), he wanted Rainer Brandt (the creator of german dubbing and Tony's german voice) to write the original dialogues for the show. But then the show was cancelled.
For some reasone, I LOVE "Never Say Never" "A View to a Kill", "Skyfall", "The Living Daylights" & "License to Kill" The last is is negotable in my mind..Moonraker and the others are really Great, bight nowut hard to rate right now for me!
They gave us the light in the Saturday evenings in the autum in the early senenties.
Hats off to The Guys, hats off...
Sign, Landet Längesen.
I enjoyed the Persuaders as a kid and I'm glad it's on Blu-ray and DVD.
2 absolute legends
Best series along with Randal and hopkirk
Also liked the Avengers.
i loved this ..especially the intro
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It was also published in Persuaders Turkiye and attracted a lot of attention.
It was an inspired combination-A buddy series with friends from either side of the pond works well.
Great series! & fantastic score by Barry.❤
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One of my favorite shows.
I could be mistaken because I was obviously quite young at the time, around 7 or 8 but I can remember it showing on Sunday afternoons over here in the UK in the early 70s.
I would have been in primary school. I can remember thinking that I wanted to be just like them when I grew up, so I guess they were role models back then for quite a few other kids as well as me..
I can imagine that their off screen differences were nothing serious really, just minor disagreements that happen between friends now and again. If this show was made today, and still set largely in the UK like before, it would obviously have to reflect the Britain of today which would mean the style would be radically different from what we knew growing up. It would be interesting to watch a remake with different actors but I wouldn't expect it to be anything like 'our' The Persuaders that we once knew, it would need to be like things are today, using the street language of today so that today's young people will get it. Many thanks.
Moore signed a bullet proof one season contract. Meaning he was free for Bond.
If the series had done well in the US it probably would have had another season. That is where the big money lies. But since it was expensive to make and not popular enough where it matters it stopped. Had nothing to do with the perceived antics of the leads
I loved this show when i was a kid.
My grandad was roughly the same age as Roger Moore and was posted to Austria to carry out his national service in the army. Moore was stationed in West Germany. My grandad enjoyed his time in Austria except that he said that the Austrians used to chew raw garlic that the British found unbearable. I doubt that garlic was used much in British cooking back then, so it was just a cultural and culinary difference. British cuisine is not known for being particularly adventurous, but can be if you delve deep enough.
Loved the show❤️ both actors were fab
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Best series of all time.
Back in 1974 I wanted to change my name, by deed poll, to Bret Sinclair, I think it might have suited me
Always made me laugh..the Aston reg plate....BS 1 or Bull Shit 1. I'm sure that was deliberate.
Best theme tune ever
It wouldnt be the same without them in it
I loved this show as a kid in the 70s. You can see how Tony Curtis would have been a pain in the arse! You are spot on about its popularity in Australia.
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They both got on with each other really well and remained friends for life.
Exceptionnelle série !
They're on at 2200hrs
The very first one
Tonight on the Great TV channel
If you miss it
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Enjoy ✝️
an all time classic 👍👍
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I enjoyed this show in the early 70s, mainly because I had watched and enjoyed The Saint.
I loved the Persuaders with Roger Moore & Tony Curtis
Would love to have seen Moore in a movie series of the Persuaders and The Saint.
Its my favory tv-serie..!
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I think it was a brilliant combination 😀👍🏼
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So Roger Moore and Tony Curtis got on perfectly during the Persuaders and after - long-time friends and pals. Thanks for the clarification...
Loved this show
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They got on just fine.
In some episodes Curtis has black hair and in others it's gray. I don't know if refused to dye his hair or - because the episodes are not filmed in the order we watch them - he dyed it afterwards, to look younger.
Sort of like Newman and McQueen-two strong personalities, it was inevitable that there would be friction. Nothing really personal
One of my favorite TV shows from the 70s
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I thought it was good fun good life stile as well top notch 👍
My absolut favorit series, but i.m old
He was also in North Sea Hijack, a great role for him.
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Originally known as "ffolkes" I think, at least in the US
Twas a GREAT SHOW.
Its on CZcams. All of them.
The Persuaders was a great show!
LI AMO❤