The Insulting Clericalism of Traditionis Custodes

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  • čas přidán 4. 09. 2024

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  • @archbishopanthonybondi5675
    @archbishopanthonybondi5675 Před 2 měsíci +40

    They want unity with us Orthodox, but do not respect tradition as we do. The old Latin Mass is a recognizable Orthodox Liturgy

    • @LtColwtf
      @LtColwtf Před 2 měsíci

      Guess there won’t be any unity any time soon then. All according to plan on the part of the entryists, I am sure.

    • @LtColwtf
      @LtColwtf Před 2 měsíci

      I guess that is a part of the plan too. The Church has a small problem with entryism. We‘ve seen a lot of evidence for that now.

    • @danielscalera6057
      @danielscalera6057 Před 2 měsíci +2

      But he is even destroying papal supremacy for you. Haven't you heard how much he pushes synodality?

    • @johncassani6780
      @johncassani6780 Před 2 měsíci

      He doesn’t want actual unity; he just wants to empty the papacy of anything that offends schismatics. However, the Pope’s authority is dogmatically defined, and it is thus heresy to deny it, no matter who you are.

  • @dariaschooler
    @dariaschooler Před 2 měsíci +17

    My entire early life was at the onset of Novus Ordo, but was blessed with the Traditional Baptism in 1960 and maybe first Communion in 1965-66.
    By 1974, formation in NO was lukewarm. 47 years later, after ceasing active participation in the sacraments and mass, I was guided by Our Lady to learn the Rosary in Latin, then attending a TLM chapel 3 months later. I have realized that I am not holy enough to endure the NO modernism and need the true Mass of the Ages, liturgy and sacraments.

    • @brianbacon5149
      @brianbacon5149 Před 2 měsíci +4

      +JMJ "I am not holy enough to endure the NO modernism and need the true Mass of the Ages." That is an inspired statement. Wow. So beautiful. I so relate to your story. I feel so gypped by 50 years of NO in denial about its irreverence, dissonance, chaos, utter banality and inanity. I thank God every day for directing me to the TLM which has been smeared since 1970. I attended the Mass of the Ages with my parents. The year I became an altar boy the Mass switched to English and to ad populum. After that I overlooked many liturgical abuses thinking that was what you were supposed to do (thanks to horrible catechism) In retrospect I see how the NO damaged my relationship with God and the Blessed Mother. In the TLM it's OK to be Catholic: celebrate the seasons, pray the Rosary, go to Confession every day if you like. Thanks be to God, the TLM is saving me. Your note is a sign of faith, hope and love. Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum!

  • @marjoriehoglund8754
    @marjoriehoglund8754 Před 2 měsíci +13

    Thank you for this reflection ! I agree with you totally ! You are very clear about Pope Francis and his Buddies doing everything that they can to stop the TLM ! Blessings to you from Michigan

  • @consecratedsoul
    @consecratedsoul Před 2 měsíci +19

    Lex Orandi, Lex Credendi, Lex Vivendi. 99% Catholics don’t get this.

    • @sophiachavez3377
      @sophiachavez3377 Před 2 měsíci +1

      They may not understand Latin, but they certainly understand the English translation. Are we supposed to be impressed that you may know some Latin?

    • @consecratedsoul
      @consecratedsoul Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@sophiachavez3377 You missed the point.

    • @TheGringoSalado
      @TheGringoSalado Před 2 měsíci +4

      ⁠@@sophiachavez3377It’s not about understanding Latin (although one can learn). The NO has been gutted of mystery, reverence, sense of the sacred, and absolutely 0 moments of silence in which to actually pray. The actions within the liturgy do not communicate the realities, and this is why most who attend the NO don’t believe in the real presence. Why would they when the entire experience says otherwise

  • @kevinwoplin9322
    @kevinwoplin9322 Před 2 měsíci +7

    The irony is that the V2 council wanted an informed and inspired laity.....so if you dont leave straight away after confirmation as most do and you are staying in the Curch and you start to study you find the greatest treasure of the church was defaced beyond recognition in both function and form. Once you have discovered the pre 1970 liturgy and sacraments, you realise the fracture that happened with the one thousand nine hundred and seventy years of faith and practice. Like most of us who grew up knowing no better, it is shocking and distressing to see the degradation to the point that 7 out of 10 do not believe in the real presence

  • @papadan3
    @papadan3 Před 2 měsíci +17

    sad sad sad. this papacy is ignorant of what true enlightenment is. sad sad sad.

  • @marcokite
    @marcokite Před 2 měsíci +20

    I'm sure Jorge would, if he could, send Traditional Roman Catholics to a Bergoglian 're-education camp'.
    'war is peace' 'freedom is slavery' 'ignorance is strength' - thanks Jorge!
    A local RC priest has introduced the TLM once a week in a weekday and tries to make the N.O. Masses more reverent, of course he is coming up against opposition.

    • @papadan3
      @papadan3 Před 2 měsíci

      sound more like a communist re education.

    • @vasjapremerl7270
      @vasjapremerl7270 Před 2 měsíci

      And blesphemy is reverance

    • @Joseph-es6mu
      @Joseph-es6mu Před 2 měsíci

      You're hypocrisy is touching. The Lord forgive you

  • @reginaramos7125
    @reginaramos7125 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I grew up with the Novus Ordo but I love the Traditional Latin Mass. When I started to asist at TLMs in the late 1990, I never attended Novus Ordo. It is but proper to be solemn in our worship. The Marian missal is really a big help to me for.my spiritual maturity as a Catholic. I'm just so grateful to be born in a Catholic family.

  • @sophiachavez3377
    @sophiachavez3377 Před 2 měsíci +4

    As long as Francis is against what I do, what Mass I attend or how I pray, I know I am on the path to heaven.

    • @artstocker60
      @artstocker60 Před 2 měsíci

      We Catholics have thousands of years of holy andorthodox teaching to fall back on. We have countless generations of holy men and women to look to. So we lose virtually nothing but confusion and error by ignoring Francis's silliness.

  • @EricJMJ-ln9dx
    @EricJMJ-ln9dx Před 2 měsíci +17

    Amen, I was 12 years old when they took the Mass from us the first time.

    • @erikriza7165
      @erikriza7165 Před 2 měsíci

      i was 17. At first, it was exciting, bt it didn't take long til most Catholics trying to swallow all the changes had an incurable case of indigestion.

    • @EricJMJ-ln9dx
      @EricJMJ-ln9dx Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@erikriza7165 Yes we didn't know what happened and what was going on

    • @erikriza7165
      @erikriza7165 Před 2 měsíci

      @@EricJMJ-ln9dx a lot of good people were very hurt in those years. The dictators who called themselves "liberal" carried the day, and they were mean and contemptuous to anyone who did not jump on their bandwagon.

    • @EricJMJ-ln9dx
      @EricJMJ-ln9dx Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@erikriza7165 Thank you, God bless!

    • @erikriza7165
      @erikriza7165 Před 2 měsíci

      @@EricJMJ-ln9dx Thank you to you too. And God bless you muchly.

  • @danielscalera6057
    @danielscalera6057 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Modern priests generally don't even consider reverence a matter worth talking about.

    • @johncassani6780
      @johncassani6780 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Most priests ordained for the past 15-20 years do want reverence. Of course, they are a disdained minority in most places, and their older priestly “brethren” are quite happy to see how they are being afflicted these days.

  • @annstrahlendorf2879
    @annstrahlendorf2879 Před 2 měsíci +4

    LORD, PROTECT YOUR CHURCH FROM ALL THESE JUDES TRYING TO RUIN OUR FAITH!!! 🙏😢💔

  • @CDave1972
    @CDave1972 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Quo Primum is binding until Christ returns. Pope Benedict 16 didn’t need to put out his motto-proprio, he just needs to reference what Pope Saint Pius V codified!

    • @Dominic1962
      @Dominic1962 Před 2 měsíci

      It’s really not. A pope cannot tie the hands of his successors in a matter that he was competent to legislate on and I wish people would stop acting like some Baroque papal legal boilerplate turns a rather mundane document into some sort of divine law dropped from heaven. There are such better arguments rather than, “Muh Quo primum…”

    • @christophersalinas2722
      @christophersalinas2722 Před měsícem +1

      Yeah… there’s nothing a Pope can do that cannot be undone by his successors. Unless you’re a sede. Then whatever

    • @CDave1972
      @CDave1972 Před měsícem

      @@christophersalinas2722 false, the Papal oath of coronation says opposite

    • @christophersalinas2722
      @christophersalinas2722 Před měsícem

      @@CDave1972 please show the papal oath text that says “i can’t change Quo Primum”

  • @Dee-mj3pu
    @Dee-mj3pu Před 2 měsíci +5

    The novel had decades to develop and bear fruit. Failures.

  • @Jean_sans_peur
    @Jean_sans_peur Před 2 měsíci +2

    Drawing the distinction between Benedict thinking of our love for the TLM eminating from having found something , as opposed the the thought of Francis that we somehow lacked something was very insightful. Bravo. You earned a sub for that. Pax

  • @christopherschaefer1994
    @christopherschaefer1994 Před 2 měsíci +1

    While Benedict XVI still was pope I predicted that his successor would have to be a Modernist because he would have to be the first pope ordained in the reformed [i.e. protestant-ized] liturgy. It accommodates the secular culture rather than being a bulwark against such depravity. This protestant communion service [aka Novus ordo mass] is so far removed from the Catholic faith, that even a huge number of priests lost the faith. This explains the explosion of clerical sex abuse, primarily among those ordained in the 1970s and early 1980s (according to study by John Jay College of Criminal Justice)

  • @timgross8952
    @timgross8952 Před 2 měsíci +8

    It started with John 23 and each pope was worse than the previous one

  • @adamziccardi2578
    @adamziccardi2578 Před 2 měsíci +2

    excellent video, well articulated. the only thing I would add is a call to action- how to be vocal, how to be involved, how to write to bishops.

  • @fr.gregorylockwood3145
    @fr.gregorylockwood3145 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Marxist Progressivism became the dominant lens through which to see the world and the church long before the council. It influenced the council (usually because the schema writers and periti were already on board, with their work foisted on the bishops); afterward, it was the hallmark of the 'reform' of the liturgy and the theology attached to it. Remember C. Roche has already said the new mass has a new theology to go with it; it's heart is Marxist Progressivism, where things old and passed down are seen as irrelevant to the brave new world.

  • @Dominic1962
    @Dominic1962 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I was in a rather solid diocesan seminary during the reign of Benedict XVI when Summorum pontificum was issued. This was also probably the highest point of the “Reform of the Reform” movement. The most dedicatedly NO staff of this seminary, academics all, not just people with strident opinions, still could never come up with stronger arguments for the “richness” of the NO than 1) Because the powers that be since 1969 say so, 2) it’s closer to the liturgy as described by St. Justin Martyr and various other spurious appeals to the assumed practices of the Early Church and 3) it’s got more readings ergo, it’s richer.
    Obviously 1 is just an appeal to authority which is fine for establishing its validity and liceity at a diocesan seminary in which no one questioned that anyway, thus is irrelevant and not applicable for “richness”.
    2 is the only potentially weighty one but if one really studies the Fathers and the earliest extant liturgical texts, one quickly sees that what was often asserted by the scholars around the Vatican II era were just that-assertions based on assumptions that cannot be proven without basically traveling back in time. The thesis that Versus populum (for the sake of actually intentionally facing the people and not facing literal East as an accident of architectural realities and such) is an ancient practice has been roundly discredited-even before Vatican II so it was made a “pastoral” necessity. The whole of the pseudo-Hippolytan corpus that was hammered on as a justification for other Canons in the Latin Rite besides the Roman Canon and for the whole scale revamping of the rite for episcopal consecration/ordination is admitted even by “progressives” as having nothing to do with Hippolytus and its most likely much later and Syriac, not Roman at all. Whomp, whomp. One can multiply examples here, but the point is that the NO is a pastiche of things, including archaeological texts of dubious usage and unclear lineage, to neo-Gallican texts and of course new compositions or major reorderings of older texts with only a comparatively small percentage of what was historically considered as coming from the Roman Rite. An academic pipe dream and product of committee rarely results in something satisfactory to all members of the committee let alone wider circles and the NO is no exception.
    The NO does indeed have “more” scripture but the lectionary is a bloated mess that lost most of the thematic and historical connections of the older lectionary. I supposed if by “richness” one means by that a glut, ok…
    Anything at a parish level is going to be basically these three points but even more unsatisfactory as it’s watered down for general consumption.

  • @roshinobi
    @roshinobi Před 2 měsíci +1

    They're able to go after traditionalists, because traditionalists take obedience seriously.

  • @sophiachavez3377
    @sophiachavez3377 Před 2 měsíci +2

    If those of you who have been questioning this pope’s actions which do not match his words and/or the contradictory things he does would just research hispanic culture, you wouldn’t waste your time asking silly questions. My only question is does the combination of his Italian heritage and hispanic nationality make him worse?

  • @user-ne4ly3vh6b
    @user-ne4ly3vh6b Před 2 měsíci +4

    Such corruption and really blind obedience of conservatives “Rome always knows best etc”. “Church knows best” etc is to blame sadly. Sin of pride

  • @gtaylor178
    @gtaylor178 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The abusive father wants to divide and deceive the children about their grandparents, their aunts, their uncles, their cousins and family friends - the abusive father wants to peddle his bad dark agenda that everything he says is new and fresh and good, when the children can see he is a liar and is pitiful. It is never a good ending.
    The damaged children continue to pray for their father, despite his rejections.

    • @thelonelysponge5029
      @thelonelysponge5029 Před 4 dny

      What a vile analogy dude. If one party is lacking, that doesn’t mean you should be lacking as well.

    • @gtaylor178
      @gtaylor178 Před 4 dny

      @@thelonelysponge5029 An abusive father is one who wages war, he is steeped in lies and deceit and threats. A vile analogy, no, an accurate one, very much so.

    • @thelonelysponge5029
      @thelonelysponge5029 Před 4 dny

      @@gtaylor178 a vile son hates his father and is cruel to him, and uses foul language against him, and plots with other sons against him.

    • @gtaylor178
      @gtaylor178 Před 3 dny

      @@thelonelysponge5029 Oh my! No. A real son challenges the bully, and covers his wickedness and prays for his conversion and freedom from the evil spirits surrounding him. That's a real loving son, not a fearful sycophant.

    • @thelonelysponge5029
      @thelonelysponge5029 Před 3 dny

      @@gtaylor178 dude, just read the Bible. Are you going to the Vatican to stand up to the Holy Father? Are you going to throw hands with him? Ridiculous! Sad!

  • @pamdidio9622
    @pamdidio9622 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Yes,

  • @user-nm3vw2py1b
    @user-nm3vw2py1b Před měsícem

    Could a new Pope change all of this? Could he reinstate the TLM in EVERY parish?

    • @christophersalinas2722
      @christophersalinas2722 Před měsícem

      Yes. And his successor could make a new NO, and then his successor could bring back the TLM, etc etc. Part of being Catholic is accepting the authority of the Pope of any time

  • @zigbeegooblesnort125
    @zigbeegooblesnort125 Před 2 měsíci +15

    bergoglio lost me at worshiping a pachumama 🦧 at the Vatican.

    • @michaelspeyrer1264
      @michaelspeyrer1264 Před 2 měsíci

      They didn’t worship and Pacha at the Vatican, you are delusional and easily led by others.

    • @zigbeegooblesnort125
      @zigbeegooblesnort125 Před 2 měsíci +5

      @michaelspeyrer1264 Dear sheepoel, it was broadcast around the world.

    • @vasjapremerl7270
      @vasjapremerl7270 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Same here. I still cant comprehand how people let this slip. It is no thing other then demon worship

    • @vasjapremerl7270
      @vasjapremerl7270 Před 2 měsíci

      Wow that Michael guy was "reegucate" prety well. Denis the plain thrugh.

  • @genemyersmyers6710
    @genemyersmyers6710 Před 2 měsíci

    Another great video.

  • @vasjapremerl7270
    @vasjapremerl7270 Před 2 měsíci

    Would they "reegucate" Tomas Aquintus?

  • @TheFirstManticore
    @TheFirstManticore Před 2 měsíci

    I am not in a position to attend a Latin mass, but I took Latin in high school in the 1960s; right during Vatican 2. Now, I was actually in favor of a vernacular mass, but was very disappointed in the lousy translations.

    • @Dominic1962
      @Dominic1962 Před 2 měsíci

      I don’t mind some or even most of Mass being in a vernacular but the Mass itself shouldn’t have been changed. If one takes something like the hand missal translations or the Anglo-Catholic English Missal, the so-called “Tridentine” Mass is there in most of its splendor.

  • @WT-Sherman
    @WT-Sherman Před 2 měsíci

    And there’s Grillo Man flipping us the Bird in your title picture.

  • @JefferyFrisone
    @JefferyFrisone Před 2 měsíci +1

    But Summorum was but a stop-gap, so Francis is only fulfilling the wishes of Benedict. Summorum was for the nostalgic; once the nostalgie is finished, we would celebrate only the 'ordinary' form of the Mass.

  • @LeonG24-si8wd
    @LeonG24-si8wd Před 2 měsíci

    Summorum Pontificum ONLY ALLOWED the Latin mass if the Pauline one was fully recognized by Catholics - read the words. Also, Benedict did actually want a hybridization of the Mass. You have not read Benedict XVI fully. He was always a liberal modernist.

  • @johnjoyce1958
    @johnjoyce1958 Před 2 měsíci +1

    There's a lot of siblence on your vocal. Probably to much on between 15,000-20,000Hrz. It's a little piercing to the ears.

  • @Vinsanity997
    @Vinsanity997 Před 2 měsíci

    Great video

  • @awreckingball
    @awreckingball Před 2 měsíci

    5:21 Ecclesia Dei 'Eucharista' Lol

    • @uscatholicam
      @uscatholicam  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Ecclesia de Eucharistia (www.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_jp-ii_enc_20030417_eccl-de-euch.html)

  • @Mark36896
    @Mark36896 Před 2 měsíci

    I was received into the Church twenty-five years ago, and started attending the Latin Mass fifteen years ago. My spiritual life took a quantum leap, until it was taken away from me from Francis & Co. I want to receive the Blessed Sacrament, so I returned to the Novus Ordo. Do I like it? Absolutely not.Do I take Pope Francis seriously? No, not at all. In fact, I believe he’s twisted, and getting worse as he approaches the end of his pontificate and his life. In short he can take his synodality and jam it up his left nostril, or some other imaginative place.

    • @thelonelysponge5029
      @thelonelysponge5029 Před 4 dny

      This is not how padre pío reacted when his priestly faculties was taken away from him. He was in obedience to his superiors and disavow those in support of him and against the pope. This is a great opportunity for you to grow in holiness, to accept your suffering and to be in obedience to the Pope.

  • @genemyersmyers6710
    @genemyersmyers6710 Před 2 měsíci

    NO is BS

  • @josephodoherty7864
    @josephodoherty7864 Před 2 měsíci

    From the word go in this video it appeared to be jusy spoiling for a fight and finding insults even where quite difficult to do so, or perhaps with enough practice it's never difficult. I love the Latin, Extraordinary Form of the Mass & the NO liturgy Vatican II had every jurisdiction & right to adopt. The arguments that was not so have sometimes been utterly spurious but even at best have been plausible apologetics not doctrinal absolutes. Refusal to accept the default acceptance of the magisterium's rule on the guidance of the Holy Spirit & of their vows of obedience pride insisted that their own spirit dictate instead as to who is or is not the Pope.
    The vicious cycle of hostility succeeded by antagonism to the magesterium and to the last 3 popes and to any attempt to engage (other than actually saying ok you be Pope instead) has lead to reprimands, cautious efforts to open up more latin masses with clergy who were hostile & at times heretical and who took every act of conciliation or compromise like an admission of wrongdoing and took it as a platform to openly proclaim the magisterium of the Church had fallen but the faithful should rally under their leadership &/or LeFebvre/Vigano. That is protestant reform in it's bare-toothed we say the Church has fallen but pretend we didn't & call us the "real" Christians/Catholics listen to our apologetics instead of (Church) Doctrine.

  • @ntlearning
    @ntlearning Před 2 měsíci +1

    I’m Protestant. You and many Catholics commenting here have a schismatic spirit……. Can you hear yourselves?

    • @uscatholicam
      @uscatholicam  Před 2 měsíci

      Please do tell

    • @DaniloCatania-vm7nb
      @DaniloCatania-vm7nb Před 2 měsíci +1

      Coming from a protestant is rich

    • @ntlearning
      @ntlearning Před 2 měsíci

      @@DaniloCatania-vm7nb True, but sometimes it takes one to smell another.

    • @DaniloCatania-vm7nb
      @DaniloCatania-vm7nb Před 2 měsíci

      @@ntlearning what protestant? Not man, one tru faith here, not a made up unbased lite version of Christinity

    • @ntlearning
      @ntlearning Před 2 měsíci

      @@DaniloCatania-vm7nb The Catholic Church has a bigger banquet table no one denies. But I would speculate there are Protestants who walk with God closer than you do.

  • @Dee-mj3pu
    @Dee-mj3pu Před 2 měsíci +2

    Arrogant.

  • @metodalif4770
    @metodalif4770 Před 2 měsíci +1

    What was before TLM? Pentecost, when everybody was speaking in own native language. Your hatred is directed at the Holy Spirit! How traditional.

    • @uscatholicam
      @uscatholicam  Před 2 měsíci +10

      Imagine thinking the beef about the TLM is solely about the Latin language lol. Please educate yourself.

    • @a.t.c.3862
      @a.t.c.3862 Před 2 měsíci

      @metodalif4770 Well said, the ordinary Catholic must be informed of the wickedness of so-called traditionalist movement.

    • @Jean_sans_peur
      @Jean_sans_peur Před 2 měsíci +1

      What a truly odd exhortation , not based in the history of the church. I'm praying for you to join the Catholic church , where we believe in transsubstantiation and attend mass every Sunday. Act and treat others as children of God. I'm lost regarding where you would find that wicked in some way. If you would please clarify

    • @CDave1972
      @CDave1972 Před 2 měsíci +2

      The TLM goes back to Saint Peter. Father Ripperger had already studied this and spoke on this.

    • @gtaylor178
      @gtaylor178 Před 2 měsíci

      Did you get that out of a ladybird book? What are you 5? Get some basic education already.

  • @vincedc71
    @vincedc71 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Bull.