RipX DAW - A Glimpse of the AI Future of DAWs?
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
- In this video, I look at RipX DAW, which claims to be the first of its kind, an AI-DAW. It certainly offers some unique workflows and features.
Section Timings:
00:00:00 - Intro
00:05:31 - A First Rip
00:07:37 - Completed Rip
00:14:35 - Use as a Normal DAW
00:17:04 - Recording MIDI Drums
00:23:16 - Building an Arrangement
00:24:15 - Recording Melodic MIDI
00:27:28 - Recording Audio
00:29:24 - Recording Guitar Riff
00:32:20 - Crash!
00:33:46 - VST Instruments
00:38:51 - FX and Processing
00:51:00 - Analysis and Learning
00:57:20 - AI: A Brief Moan!
00:58:44 - AI Generation
00:59:29 - Suno Music Generation
01:07:07 - Google AI Kitchen
01:07:32 - Stable Audio Generation
01:13:10 - Nerd!!!!
01:15:09 - Summary
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Very good video deep dive in to this RipX Software all the way through... thanx 4 your in sight!
Thanks Keith, much appreciated. 👍
Nice overview, thx!
I stayed around till the end. Hehe
Thanks for making this video on what this daw is all about. It was long but I sat through it. As a long time Cubase user, am glad you reffered to cubase vari-audio & spectra layers as comparison to how this daw works, I could better understand. Cheers
Best video about ripx
Thanks
it's easy for Editing and Fix Amazing software thanks for that Tutorial
Thanks Darren, have watched some of this and have added to the play later list.
Like yourself, i'm an old fogey too and old enough to remember working for years on purely analogue gear/tape and, of course, like some of the other comments, have plenty of old recordings i would LOVE to be able to go back to and rework.
Done the Melodyne Studio, iZotope and Spectralayers things, but they're pretty limited (by today's standards, but still amazing tools to us oldies).
This lookd VERY interesting and MANY thanks for posting mate. 👍👍👍
I'm glad you did. Stem splitting is currently an essential thing for me, as I'm trying to seprate the stems in my old four track casette mixes from the 80s. However, I've gotten nothing but nearly unusable reults up until with FL Studio. But if ripX Can do it even better...then...SOLD!
Ultimate Vocal Remover is free and you can download any algorithm for it. It is daw independent but the results are ridiculously good.
I use splitter AI
Great point about the hidden controls… I’ve been trying to figure out how to work the software… I didn’t know those were there until just now. Cheers!
Glad it helped! Alas, that's my painful experience from years of teaching in classrooms. Software would get a LOT better a LOT quicker if the developers spent time with groups of people who had never used their software before. They spend too much time in the "inside view".
This program is really only useful for track extraction and separation but this feature is simply amazing, especially for those who dream of remixing their old tapes. It's also a fantastic creativity booster, just like a sampler but on steroids. They'd better sell it as a vst plug-in without the daw part.
As it's based on an open-source splitting algorithm, I'm going to see if anyone has done this, as it would offer a lot without a lot of the luggage that comes with it!
@@musictechtuition Just the extraction in a plugin would be amazing for remastering old tracks people lost their masters for.
@@unspeakableoafUpcoming video (hopefully on Friday, there's a lot of editing to do) should have you covered at zero cost.
Very nice! Also, I got an MPK Mini, too. I got the MK3. Shalom. :3
I have the Mk1...2 and 3! I bought two of them (cheaply, secondhand) for a comparison video... that I never made!
Is there no way to rewind or scrub forward easily?? They have a play pause and record button but trying to scrub back or forward it a headache unless I'm missing it.
cool!!
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"Gary was a great bass player… if a strange man." 😂 Sounds like all bass players! I'm testing out RipX DAW now. So far, I feel about it just as you do about Gary! Strange app. I haven't felt like I'm having such an alien experience since I tried to use FL Studio! Gonna be doing a review soon. Really appreciate your deep-dive!
Interesting DAW despite the glitches in basic functions. And solid review, thank you. Oh and all bass players are strange, just facts. This DAW is also like a bass player...
In unrelated news... I'm a bass player! 😆
Cool video, really good depth on the DAW, just a note on Suno. It does generate all the instrumentation and lyrics, none of it is premade. V3 alpha is just released and its an incredible upgrade over V2 which your using there (and was already pretty decent) the quality and compression is still ropey but it can actually put out good sounding tracks.
Thanks for the info - I have played with it a bit more since, and had some usable results (as well as some not-so-usable ones!). Surprised someone with some lyrics when they made a prompt, but I knew roughly what would be coming so it was interesting seeing them realise what was going on.
@@musictechtuition Yes it still has patchy output, you need to run like 10 generations to get maybe 1 usable base point. But its pretty amazing that it just generates it completely new.
Is it possible with RipX to load in a song and change it's sounds based on the fragments given?
I do not have a copy of RipX yet however, even with the uncalled for negative review you just presented, I still plan on purchasing it. You're not a fan of their user interface. That's an opinion. It should have been stated once and not the theme of the video. Frankly I was very impressed by the functionality as what they've done is truly leading edge. Anyone that cannot both hear and appreciate that doesn't need to be in the music business. Have a great day!
His comments on the User Interface were called for.
The best thing is how close the "join" quick button is next to S. I don't know how many times I've managed to send parts of a layer into one of the other layers when I've been pushing S. No, literally I don't know. XD But yeah for $200000000000 I'd expect a bit more UI personalization. Funny the software where you can dissect and change every single breathe and vibration how you please you can't even change dark/light mode at minimum XD
As a DAW, it’s lacking. The VST support is highly non-traditional . The interface has hidden controls, and UX isn’t particularly inviting.
For stem separation of good quality source audio, it is better than other options.
I use RipX purely for educational purposes. I use it to study the structure of songs I like or find fascinating. The DAW features aren’t good enough for composition. The stem separation isn’t great but one of the better options out there particularly if you’re interested in MIDI data. Sadly, getting rid of erroneous note data is a real pain. The built in tools to deal with that are mediocre at best. You either have to spend a lot of time manually deleting erroneous data or working with blunt instrument to try to remove it in bulk. The best option is to transcribe it manually using your eye to edit out the bad data. I’m not sure that is any better than listening and trying to transcribe since you need to parse out what is and isn’t a note.
Great Video, thanks. I see you have the reliable and great UMC202, I love it. £99 fair price for this, looks really interesting. Great song, it's a shame you felt you couldnt play it all, I hate the whole copyright crap on youtube, especially as it's your own blinking music (how old do I sound?)
Thanks! Yeah, the UMC is my handy portable get-me-out-of-a-spot interface, use it for all this sort of stuff into my main DAW. Copyright is quite an issue on YT - I have background knowledge of someone's channel who's fairly famous and the copyright claims on everything of his are multiple layers deep and he often doesn't know why a given song is claimed by a particular party - it's a complete minefield! I may just upload the song in its entirety, not publish it, and then see if a claim appears!
The serge xt sounds like aeon flux opening
3rd Party Plugins can no longer be used but I think there is a way around that on a Mac as you can run multiple DAWs simultaneously with MacOS. So you just load up DAW #2 with the plugings you're interested in using and take off. If anyone sees a whole in this logic please let me know. Now I'm just a home body that loves to play music and make it sound as close to the original as possible. I don't do it for money, I do it for fun. Those stealing someone elses work is a totally different story and should be dealt with accordingly.
Hmmnnn.....some really interesting ideas and some bits seem to work very well, other bits not so much. I think it may well become a future purchase for me but at the moment it's not quite consistently compelling enough.....but I'm fairly sure it will get there.
Yeah, I think if it goes in the right direction, in the future this could be good, but certainly for my workflow (which is not mostly ripping stems) it's not there yet.
I like the rip capabilities but as a DAW I think it's got a long way to go. No surprise there I suppose. Worth keeping an eye out though. Thanks.
All bass players are like that in my experience ;)
is stem splitting how a drummer could a make drumless track to practice to?
Absolutely. Video upcoming on Friday on stem splitting solutions, with a couple of surprises in there!
I'd be hard pressed to find they learn how to separate the violins section into 1st's and 2nd's :)
I know people currently say that will not be possible, but looking how far things have come in the last 20 years....
I admire your patience 😁 I'd have smashed the screen by now. I'll stick to Cubase.
Thanks... I think you're not alone!
Thins looks bananas... is there anything truly game changing, killer-app, essential or worth using... then flipping back to your main DAW?
For me, personally, I'd say no. If I want stems ripped I have some suggestions (video upcoming), and while some of the editing is interesting, there's too much friction and too many issues for me to use as a replacement DAW, although there are some really interesting ideas in here.
@@musictechtuition Thanks for the reply.
Do you think it could possibly be the very early beta of a future app that could turn into something crazy useful ?
@@MOSMASTERING I think so. Anything that could apply the same editing to audio or MIDI and work identically would be a game-changer. I just think it's an early glimpse of a possible future. The Rip-i-fication of the VST Instruments is the first thing that would need work - you'd need to be able to do it live, and I'm not sure if that's remotely feasible without immense processing power (or even a lot of latency).
Makes you wonder how many great videos like this have we lost because the creator thought it was ' too long' and decided not to publish it.
That's a good question... although I can say in my case it's only been one or two, and they were early-stage unfinished. Funny that I nearly didn't publish the video that has been the most popular for me in a long time!
This so exciting yet so frustrating at the same time! The stuff it does are really good but it looks a nightmare to use
Indeed. I think if it had a better UI, and a proper mixer, then it would have been a much more positive experience.
Why must they try to reinvent the wheel.... That's the problem with these programmers that think they just do stuff better than the what is out there.
Sorry but everything that's in the UX/UI is really bad for a real musician/engineer. Nothing makes sense in there. And you're completely right.... Why the hell are things hidden? You don't have the time to search for stuff when you're recording-mixing...
Anyway, really not for me, and again... Why does those AI software need to reinvent the wheel? Just give us a proper music program and useful features.
Learn to play and record like real musicians do jeeeez! This is again a freaking gadget for those "producers" that don't know their C from their D#, and "produce" people or themselves that don't know how to play and have to fix everything after. Auto-Tune everything instead of learning how to do sing/play
I can a lot of producers just using this as a sampler
So the app integrated current ai initiatives. It's more a experiment It has some cool parts, but you can't call this a Digital Audio Workstation. It works clunky and it is definitely not stable
That is just weird that it only uses VST as audio. Makes it all but totally useless for real work. I have been seeing so much about how this is the future of DAWs but it looks far more like a joke on the credulous. Thaks for the through walkthrough. I like (and make) longer videos.
:-)
Yeah... I can't help but think that will be the biggest drawback for anyone who is a 'normal' DAW user. If it was possible to do the analysis they do in real time, so you could change the sound on the synth, still play it as normal, but also get access to the tools RipXDAW offers, then it would be quite a different proposal. And thanks for the thanks, much appreciated!
For me, this fills in the holes in Ableton right now... Stem separation and cleanup so I can do remixes quickly and easily, and clean up recordings made 'in the wild'.
AI is probably going to destroy all but live played music, and drown us all in even more mediocre dross. But right now, it all seems like great fun :)
FRIEND HOW TO INSTALL THE PROGRAM AND SEPARATE THE CORS
Installation is covered on the ripX site (just run the installer). Splitting is covered in the first part of the video, and you can then export all tracks from RipX.
@@musictechtuition FRIEND MAKE A VIDEO. I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOU AT ALL
If this was your desert island DAW it would stop working after 15 launches without internet access
Had a similar experience with the FruitcakeLoop.....
The AI-separation have way to much artefacts compare to mine.
What are you comparing it to? I'm looking to do a comparison in a future video between a number of stem ripping solutions...
@@musictechtuitionAI-LYD@no
It seems no urls allowed inyje comments?
@@robertstory8005Why not just type the name of the better working separation tool?
@@FinnsnorI've tried to name and provide url, but the messages gets deleted.
Okay, so they tell us we should first get the permission of the copyright holders before we even rip their music. Why don't just ask for the actual stems then?
I think it's a fairly standard request with any tool where it *could* be used to infringe copyright. And often stems aren't available. It's also perfectly fine to use this kind of thing for learning privately, and there is also the US-based 'fair use' (which AFAIK only applies in the US) of smaller sections of works, etc.
Bro Bad terms of use ? ( RipX )
what's up with this ?
If I record an original song in this DAW I can't release the song recorded with this DAW (hitnmix) according to this term of use.
whats up with this ?
All copyright, trademarks, design rights, patents and other intellectual property rights (registered and unregistered) in and on HIT’N’MIX and all content (including all applications) located on the site shall remain vested in Hit’n’Mix Ltd or its licensors (which includes other users). You may not copy, reproduce, republish, disassemble, decompile, reverse engineer, download, post, broadcast, transmit, make available to the public, or otherwise use HIT’N’MIX content in any way except for your own personal, non-commercial use. You also agree not to adapt, alter or create a derivative work from HIT’N’MIX. Any other use of HIT’N’MIX content requires the prior written permission of Hit’n’Mix
Not sure how that can be enforced ? They can embed a code and you're done. so making a hit with this DAW can be a problem. They can take you to court and you’re done so they need to make it clear.
The lawyer that made this was a bad one or evil smart.
Its Ambiguous.
they need a copyrights section for the user's rights.
this is a one way contract.
I'm not a lawyer but I don't think it applies in that way - it's talking about their content such as software and website, etc. I think most DAWs have similar terms in their (enormous) licence agreements.
I’m not sure this could be a future move in my opinion…looks complicated and clunky. Sound quality isn’t clean cut. Great video highlighting possibilities within its AI cleverness. 👍
Thanks, much appreciated.
Ripx its really nice but its too slow and heavy ... We need something light and easier for AI music creators XD
this look really complicated
Even less playing and creating than ever. Most of the effort goes to satisfy algorithms, tweak, troubleshoot and be constantly distracted and frustrated...
14 days left on my free trial and i totally agree. Fl studio already has nutone, and stem separation is in beta rn. Ripx is hot garbage as a DAW, would have made a killer plugin. It will be outdated by the end of the year
I use Moises they seem to imp-rove it all the time. the lyrics editor is very interesting as I can hear so many new thimgs in the vocal track above what the stem separateion does. its bizzare . try it out
Ultimate Vocal Removee is slightly better than Rip X,and Rip X cant give midi chords of the songs'..How is this miss i never understand..
I think it's a bit too early to introduce AI DAW to the market just yet, until the bugs are worked out of it and it becomes more user friendly. Since the genesis of digital, it seems we want to always get the latest miracle working technology out there: better sound, better handling, less issues, more creative freedom. I'll stick to what works for me. After all, it's more about the music than anything else. I have several reels of 2" 24 track at 30ips that sound just as good as what I've done on any of my digital DAWs. In fact it's better, because analogue, to me, sounds better. Be as it may, I think the AI, right now, is a waste of time and money.
Use mogolian throat singing.
What a disaster
10:00 its not developers its UX/UI "experts" feeding back into design and the developers with no design sense ... which is almost all of them just buying into the stupidity.
This is a particularly egregious example not just for beginners but for experts ... I have been producing for 24 years. I have a reasonable amount of experience too.
Not that I generaly use mix controls unless I am looking to do final mixes not being able to see them at a glance is fucking awful. Imaging you have multiple soloed or muted tracks .... now what you have to go searching for them?
Its just dumb.
na....ill stick to studio one that looks rubbish#
AI is just software. 🙄
Yes, but I think there's a vast difference between the stuff that most developers create, and the possibilities offered by ML and 'AI' systems. Making software that can generate visuals from text prompts without using ML and AI would be an insanely enormous proposition, but it's become commonplace with ML... and with the advent of video creation which has time-permanent elements (as seen recently by OpenAI's Sora), I think one of the boudaries people thought were years off has been crossed. It's not perfect yet, but we are at the beginning of the hockey-stick curve of its potential. All IMO, of course!
Don’t infringe copyright? That’s like a gun manufacturer saying “here’s our gun, don’t use it to shoot people“. Why else would you need stem separation if it’s not to infringe copyright?!! Disingenuous.
There are plenty of genuine, non-copyright-infringing reasons that you would need stem separation. I do a lot of work for someone who was most famous in the 70s and 80s, and with many of his recordings he only has access to the master tapes, and wants to revisit or rework some of these tracks, or use them as a basis for a new recording. I've been asked to do that sort of thing much more than anything else in this area, particularly now it is of higher quality than it was.
@@musictechtuition let’s be fair; that’s a pretty niche utilisation for this technology. i don’t think you could honestly say you are the target demographic.
Cubase has been doing this for years. Nothing new. Only difference is that cubase is stable and not clunky or confusing as this.
AI. Maybe another 10 yrars or so.
Cubase is definitely a lot more stable, and a lot easier to navigate.... but I think it's behind in terms of stem ripping integration; yes, you can do it with Spectralayers and then VariAudio, but it's not as straightforward as this. I am planning a comparison though in the future, of ripping stems with SL and then seeing how Cubase's analysis holds up compared to RipX.
@@musictechtuition Absolutely. Thx.
Rubbish
Lacking so many Essential real DAW features.... certainly not worth the asking price. This is NOT a DAW!
Dislike !
This video or RipXDAW?
both 🥺
and, I have to write because Google removed the dislike button , otherwise I would just click
Sound reasoning
yes, i want this, to remove every vocal from every track!
I often feel that way! Used to really dislike 'vocal' versions of tracks I'd heard when I was out, then you'd get the vocal version that everyone would play on the radio...
Haha. The trolls are not happy because they are the clowns.