Royal Enfield's secret 250cc bike and why it's a big deal | Deep Drive Podcast Ep. 16| Autocar India

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  • @autocarindia1
    @autocarindia1  Před měsícem +4

    Chapters -
    0:00 - Introduction
    0:57 - Royal Enfield 250cc bike coming
    6:45 - Plug-in hybrid bike
    9:10 - Growing sales and electric bike
    13:20 - Too much on its plate?
    20:05 - Exports in focus
    26:14 - Big bikes
    28:42 - Motorcycling culture in India
    33:20 - Sales, service and quality

  • @Ashish14792
    @Ashish14792 Před měsícem +141

    The issue is not only service but also there dealers, went into a royal Enfield dealer in Bangalore and I was left unattended for 30 minutes and I just got up and moved out of the RE showroom and dropped the plan to buy a RE

    • @confidential1234
      @confidential1234 Před měsícem +3

      Actually dont have the plan to buy RE

    • @raghavendrap3673
      @raghavendrap3673 Před měsícem +7

      Same here they r not interested to attend customer

    • @nstugaon
      @nstugaon Před měsícem +4

      Lost a costomer

    • @kailashsingh7169
      @kailashsingh7169 Před měsícem +1

      Service experience varies...u may also have best experience at some places

    • @sukeshrock4065
      @sukeshrock4065 Před měsícem

      Trust me …RE dealers are pushing for best….u just can’t imagine how worse it would even become if any other regular brand dealer handles it!

  • @burnttoast9890
    @burnttoast9890 Před měsícem +38

    More bike podcasts , India is the largest bike market, it only makes sense

  • @Dozingdoc
    @Dozingdoc Před měsícem +17

    Reading so many comments mentioning RE is struggling and every 2nd 200+cc bike I see on road is a RE

  • @gradientO
    @gradientO Před měsícem +77

    18 HP with 350cc. Can't imagine for 250cc 👀

    • @techunboxingpro3295
      @techunboxingpro3295 Před měsícem +5

      20hp and 27nm

    • @techunboxingpro3295
      @techunboxingpro3295 Před měsícem +4

      250 has to be oil cooled to produce atleast 14hp

    • @techunboxingpro3295
      @techunboxingpro3295 Před měsícem +1

      250 has to be atleast oil cooled to able to be produce 14hp

    • @BlackHawkTejas
      @BlackHawkTejas Před měsícem +3

      Exactly! They can't be seriously targeting young buyers with those numbers, no matter what the total experience or capabilities of the said rider will be. Also with E20 Engine will be less powerful & less efficient & heavy RE bike, will cause more oil to be used, may feel lethargic to an active young buyer.
      They need to pump out atleast 22-25hp power with 6 speed GB!

    • @The_Bobber_Men
      @The_Bobber_Men Před měsícem

      Same concern 😂

  • @jagadishdasari6466
    @jagadishdasari6466 Před měsícem +34

    Why YAMAHA is unwilling to bring in XSR-155?
    FZ-X is a good product for India but NO MATCH to XSR-155.
    Aerox - worst suspension of the world of scooters.
    Please do an elaborate analysis on YAMAHA plans for India. Seems they are unwilling to go ahead.

    • @BlackHawkTejas
      @BlackHawkTejas Před měsícem +6

      The japanese bike & car manufacturers as a whole have lost their way around the world & even more so in India

    • @nemesiszz
      @nemesiszz Před měsícem +7

      FZ X looks horrible

    • @HarishBabuM
      @HarishBabuM Před měsícem

      If XSR comes to India, will it disrupt the Indian market?

    • @shahan484
      @shahan484 Před měsícem +1

      aerox is not an activa, hence why the hard suspension lol. And FZX is not at all a good or successful product.

    • @vikramk9383
      @vikramk9383 Před měsícem +1

      Absolutely, XSR looks the best , has a proven engine and platform, how difficult is it !

  • @kruzerblade4740
    @kruzerblade4740 Před měsícem +15

    they need to revive the 500 platform. Everything in the market, especially the threat from the HD-Hero partnership seems to be crying for it's return

  • @ck3289
    @ck3289 Před měsícem +12

    The issue with RE is no quality check of final product and sales and services ! They release wonderful designs and now even Liquid cooled engine but fail in the above !

  • @amitchakrabarti1403
    @amitchakrabarti1403 Před měsícem +15

    I am willing to move into 650, but I wont make compromises that I made in the 350cc. It has to have good suspension, pillion comfort, good ergo, proper foot-peg position. I don’t mind paying but the product has to be premium.

    • @maniish2165
      @maniish2165 Před měsícem

      It was my dream too, to buy RE 650 cc bike and get married. But when I hear the friends who already owned those bikes. I want to wait many more years.

  • @1207_patidar
    @1207_patidar Před měsícem +12

    It's good to see Rishad on the podcast!

  • @praveenhegde8107
    @praveenhegde8107 Před měsícem +6

    My 2 paise , i see a market for a retro 400-500 cc (not a water cooled , maximum oil cooler) 270 degree crank ( minimum vibration), alloy wheels , twin siencer tucked close to swing arm , retro chrome and round headlight with twin pod instrument cluster with sufficient ground clearance, centre stand and a maximum 800-815 mm seat height , good rider triangle for someone from 5'7"to 6'.0" and slack in cable to accommodate about 50 mm handle bar raisers .

  • @prasanthprabhakaran7939
    @prasanthprabhakaran7939 Před měsícem +9

    Royal Enfield 250cc roadster scrambler version for accessibility of Nationwide 2026 celebration of 125 Year's Royal Enfield motorcycle was built in 1901 by The Enfield Cycle Company... waiting for the New 250 capacity Roadster Scrambler for India

  • @rajaramvb
    @rajaramvb Před měsícem +4

    Bike riding experts keep saying 250-400 cc is the ideal bike for Indian roads including. There was a rush for 400 cc post Dominar and Himalayan followed by Triumph and Harley

  • @gunsNwings
    @gunsNwings Před měsícem +7

    Re has to think of making a simple bike like the rx or rd with (air or max oil cooled to keep the cost of wonership and maintenance in check) 25 to 30 bhp 250 to 300 cc bike which can be customized the way customer wants.

    • @TheLifeRoadessay
      @TheLifeRoadessay Před měsícem

      Can't their expertise is on the long stroke engine...

  • @chiraggowda4928
    @chiraggowda4928 Před měsícem +24

    250cc RE will be equivalent to 100cc Bajaj in power😂

  • @suchindrad7140
    @suchindrad7140 Před měsícem +4

    Last 10 mins.. Man spoke on behalf of all RE fans. :')

  • @lovepeacehatewar9818
    @lovepeacehatewar9818 Před měsícem +3

    I don't know why people liked Classic 350,
    Bullet 350 Makes More Sense, More Attractive, Macho Looks, If We Buy Black Mate and Modified with Associaries Company Seat, Back Rest, Chakra Silver Wheel, it Looks Like Harley and Looks Gentle, Macho Man and Awesome.💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

  • @autocarindia1
    @autocarindia1  Před měsícem +1

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  • @cruze86
    @cruze86 Před měsícem +8

    Aise hi 350 mein weight jyada aur power kum hai, 250 mein aayegi toh aise lagega jaise splendor chala rahe hain 😂💀

  • @inRadhaKrishnaITrust
    @inRadhaKrishnaITrust Před měsícem +3

    Will there ever be a Himalayan 650? Any development or planning happening on that front?

  • @santaramagan
    @santaramagan Před měsícem +2

    Want to see Shotgun styled bike in 350/450cc avatar ... Body style available and engine size already there 🤞

  • @itsjagbir
    @itsjagbir Před měsícem +3

    Merge two 450cc engines inline to make a 900cc engine ( with R&D) , for future cafe racers, roadstars , adv. Cruisers , touring cruisers, scramblers.

  • @krishnachaitanya8590
    @krishnachaitanya8590 Před měsícem +5

    Awesome!! Now kindly update the hunter with a LED headlight!! Halogen looks dated on it, tbh!

  • @calvintouz4066
    @calvintouz4066 Před měsícem +3

    Design it like RD350🔥
    A little bit modern with modern functionality

  • @sunaysaraf
    @sunaysaraf Před měsícem +3

    A Podcast on Yamaha India.

  • @blackbirds1440
    @blackbirds1440 Před měsícem +1

    Do a podcast on inconsistent QC issues and Service Centre issues for Tata. Specifically how Mahindra & Maruti manages these issues but Tata can’t.

  • @PV-Anish
    @PV-Anish Před měsícem +1

    A wishful thinking of mine would be to see a tenere 700 competitor from RE

  • @sailohith2743
    @sailohith2743 Před měsícem +1

    Wonderful podcast rishad and ketan good and insightful discussion 👏.

  • @hra
    @hra Před měsícem +3

    Rishad looks like motogp s rider pecco bagnia ❤
    M i right or M i right 😊

  • @sidharthsuresh3740
    @sidharthsuresh3740 Před měsícem +2

    make a air and oil cooled 250cc bike with around 20-22hp...... upbore the 650cc engines to 750 cc or 800cc and make them produce 60hp-65hp in the premium classic segment...... they should make a 750cc "R" engine for enttry into the premium performance oriented bikes making around 90hp-100hp....... take two 250cc engines combine them to make a v twin like the kx model producing around 40hp that may take the place of the current 650cc linup...... this v twin can just may fill the blank left by the iron 883......
    the 250cc bikes should not be retro bikes and produce less torque so as to not kill the 350cc linup........
    its just my fantasy..... but yeah , itt is what it is

  • @Layman_O2
    @Layman_O2 Před 17 dny +1

    250cc ki bike aayi to tabahi mach jayegi 🤩🤩🤩🤩

  • @eskayimpossible419
    @eskayimpossible419 Před měsícem +1

    when should we expect the Himalayan 650

  • @ragschavan
    @ragschavan Před měsícem

    Listening to Rishad is joyful 👍🏼

  • @chandan4156
    @chandan4156 Před měsícem

    I remember when I first bought pulsar 150 in 2002, people used to come in a car to bike meetups! This shows the aukaat of motorcycle in india

  • @charishraju2007
    @charishraju2007 Před měsícem

    RE has previously sold sub 350cc bikes in India such as the Crusader and the Mini Bullet

  • @RevsAndWheels
    @RevsAndWheels Před měsícem +1

    Waiting for the Classic 650!

    • @lovepeacehatewar9818
      @lovepeacehatewar9818 Před měsícem +1

      Bullet 650 Make More Senses, Looks Like Harley, Macho and Gentle Looks.

  • @sreeragn.s5814
    @sreeragn.s5814 Před měsícem +1

    Expecting a fully fared sports bike

  • @user-ki5ki7jw4i
    @user-ki5ki7jw4i Před 13 dny

    For new buyers money n height is a concern.
    With every lower inches u can expect higher volume in Indian market.

  • @sh1eldsai743
    @sh1eldsai743 Před měsícem +1

    Again new 350 cc is in development?

  • @SouryaDP
    @SouryaDP Před měsícem

    I would probably buy the 250cc RE bike as my next upgrade. I work in the outskirts in the city and have to commute to the city once a week. So the 350cc is too much for the city, while the 160cc Avenger that I ride is slightly underpowered on the open roads. 250cc, and especially an urban cruiser would strike head-to-head with the Avenger, probably breaking open its monopoly in the segment.

  • @HunterVlog350cc
    @HunterVlog350cc Před měsícem

    AN year back I had created a post and shared this idea with RE on linkedin, but i am facing issue sin service quality and they need to increase the service centers more in bigger cities

  • @surepallymanideep6824
    @surepallymanideep6824 Před měsícem

    Royal Enfield should launch an alternate brand and launch the new vehicles under that brand. Let the RE badge be with the classic, retro bikes and the new brand bring in bikes of different segments. Market the new brand as RE's sister company.

  • @prajwaljirali5642
    @prajwaljirali5642 Před měsícem +2

    Why new RE bikes are developed in UK, are Indian engineers not capable to build a good product here!!
    And Indian brands really dont build many engines, they just build a platform and bring out different style bikes on the same platform. Is it really that hard to build a engine even for a multi million dollar auto company, with best talent in the country at their disposal, vendor network, etc!!!

    • @dhananjaidhariyal6618
      @dhananjaidhariyal6618 Před měsícem +2

      Looking at quality of Indian engineering colleges, it's no surprise engineers here are good in paper only..real engineering will always be done by countries that have better colleges and excellent r&d environment... Indian companies will always rely on foreign talent . Indian engineers will not do any pioneering research for upcoming several decades and will continue to get jobs in low end discarded western technology.....

  • @manuvelpigares3456
    @manuvelpigares3456 Před měsícem

    Any update on 750cc?

  • @user-mn6sq3is4t
    @user-mn6sq3is4t Před měsícem

    Is this new bike Guirella or different model??

  • @skg901
    @skg901 Před měsícem

    If they make this plugin hybrid, they should ask govt for some tax concession on it and get it approved as an entirely new segment

  • @vyshakreghukumar995
    @vyshakreghukumar995 Před měsícem

    I think it should be a 200cc motorcycle. (Not kidding!) I mean that would create the 150cc gap between the segments: 200cc, 350cc, 500cc (RE should revive the Classic/Bullet 500), the 650cc twin-cylinder, and the 800cc concept.

  • @logicalindian_777
    @logicalindian_777 Před 13 dny

    When will RE make a bike for Dakar rally?

  • @GeorgieVeyccan
    @GeorgieVeyccan Před měsícem

    Royal Enfield really needs to work on the quality of products that are being offered for a premium.
    I have a barely 3 year old Continental GT 650 which has been towed off twice, once for a fuel pump that went kaput and once for a self starter fault. The exhaust header has fully rusted through and the company refuses to replace it.
    Overall very happy with the product, but utterly disappointed with the quality.

  • @t.karthikharshavardhan
    @t.karthikharshavardhan Před měsícem

    Plz bring fully liquid cooled 650 engines such that numbers will increase

  • @neeraja.v.1497
    @neeraja.v.1497 Před měsícem

    If u could reduce the weight of the bike and give performance like a 350 cc bike it would be a great deal .As 250 cc bike would give mileage of around 40 km per liter its going to be a great deal and game changer for the brand .Could copy what TVS ronin did how it compete with hunder even though it's 220 cc bike .And the top model on the road price should be 2 lakhs max .

  • @vishnudayalsharma7803

    Need classic 250 with same form factor but less weight

  • @user-ki5ki7jw4i
    @user-ki5ki7jw4i Před 13 dny

    Yamaha is losing because it ignored to cultivate its success- RX-100
    The sound, the light weight n short frame was key to its success

  • @navnathnagargoje7502
    @navnathnagargoje7502 Před měsícem

    R E s R& D rigidity to not go below 350 cc doesnt allow R E to sell in millions. BUT it shold not go below 250cc considering power to weight ratio..

  • @user-fe2wo4sd7u
    @user-fe2wo4sd7u Před měsícem

    Continental GT 250cc scrambler look ❤

  • @sufiyansheikh131
    @sufiyansheikh131 Před měsícem

    I'm hoping for a road biased neo retro motorcycle which shares the similar design language with the globally available yamaha xsr. If they manage to do something like that, im definitely buying it. I may be very overly optimistic here but shhh😂😂

  • @viralengine908
    @viralengine908 Před měsícem

    setting up assembly units in UK probably made sense before brexit. exporting from britain to mainland europe is now very disadvantageous. As for the US, it's very simple, the young do not have any money. It's heavily concentrated in the hands of the 50+ year old demographic which have no interest in royal enfields. I think this applies to the UK as well with the severe economic crisis they're in.

  • @Ani-gj3ju
    @Ani-gj3ju Před 29 dny

    Enfield need 250cc bullet and old exhaust thump mileage incrise 40plus if it's done that's a great revolution ❤❤❤

  • @satyajeetsondarva244
    @satyajeetsondarva244 Před měsícem

    Why no one talks about Honda and their BigWing dealerships.

  • @kamalchoudhury2910
    @kamalchoudhury2910 Před měsícem +1

    it will probably have 13hp with 160kg... :)

  • @vishnudayalsharma7803

    I am waiting for 250

  • @megasupremetech5440
    @megasupremetech5440 Před měsícem

    Can't find spare parts for RE. And quality issues.

  • @nahihai
    @nahihai Před měsícem

    interceptor & gt with 17 inch wheels and better suspensions, maybe usd

  • @ankn01
    @ankn01 Před měsícem +3

    I have to say this.
    Before normal Indian volume buyers go for 650s or 750s , they will go for a car and we are wanting a car people. Tough times coming for every bike manufacturers.

    • @BlackHawkTejas
      @BlackHawkTejas Před měsícem +1

      Difficult to predict! With increasing PCI buyers may go for higher capacity bikes! And many households despite having cars may still go for higher capacity bikes.

  • @rohandeep181
    @rohandeep181 Před 27 dny

    It's not a new thing for re I think the first bike of a re was a 250 cc bike..even royal Enfield continental GT was first launched with a 250 cc engine

  • @GodAP
    @GodAP Před měsícem

    Where’s the 750cc bike, they’ve been working for such a long time!

  • @atmanirbharbangali
    @atmanirbharbangali Před měsícem

    Waiting to see ROYAL ENFIELD 1000CC Bike. RE need to work on higher CC. They are know for more cc more power

  • @durgasampathbezawada3607

    Dear royal enfield classic 350 Bs4 2019 model please relaunch many peoples and my favorite Design so please relaunch immediately in 2025 till waiting for relaunch
    indians request

  • @sohailbikram
    @sohailbikram Před měsícem

    My experience with RE dealer was as horrible as it could have been. It was so terrible that I dropped the idea of getting one twice... But since I loved the bike, i bought it anyway. Thereafter came the true nightmare, the god awful service! 😶😶.
    It made me feel I made a mistake (happy with the bike, disappointed with the service)

  • @fobudomh
    @fobudomh Před měsícem

    A more accessible 250cc is not a good idea.

  • @satyanarayangoswami823
    @satyanarayangoswami823 Před měsícem

    If they want to make a 250cc then they have to make it a short stroke or else a long stroke 250 from RE would be as slow af.

  • @amrutpat12
    @amrutpat12 Před měsícem

    Gt 450 was needed instead we got the guerilla 450

    • @ck3289
      @ck3289 Před měsícem +1

      Guerilla is more practical than GT !

  • @javeedtech
    @javeedtech Před měsícem

    For me mileage is important for 250 cc

  • @superman2154
    @superman2154 Před měsícem

    Taxes are too high in India

  • @PHILOSOPHY260
    @PHILOSOPHY260 Před 28 dny

    bike will come in next year .

  • @quizbuzz4821
    @quizbuzz4821 Před měsícem

    Bring in a 250cc twin that puts out 30 bhp at 1.5 Lakhs and RE would become untouchable.

  • @General_Li_Shin
    @General_Li_Shin Před měsícem

    I hope a 200kg, 250cc bike can at least move

  • @eww_tube
    @eww_tube Před měsícem

    So they'll have 250, 350, 450, 650.. only 550 is missing

  • @JavedKhan-tq2bj
    @JavedKhan-tq2bj Před měsícem

    I own RE classic 350, it sucks in terms of initial tourqe, my 9 years old honda 110 cc has better low end tourqe. Will never buy another RE.

  • @anubhav6994
    @anubhav6994 Před měsícem

    Averag age of India is going older...

  • @karnchaturvedi9050
    @karnchaturvedi9050 Před měsícem

    They should not ….why they want to become like hero

  • @tamanglama740
    @tamanglama740 Před měsícem

    They can bring interceptor/continental gt in 250 cc/350 cc..😂 i'll buy it then...650 is aukat k bahar

  • @alexmercer3001
    @alexmercer3001 Před měsícem

    RE is in a Killing Spree 🎉🎉🎉

  • @anirudhcarani735
    @anirudhcarani735 Před měsícem

    Royal enfield is a step down. Not at all reliable

  • @nirmaljustin2530
    @nirmaljustin2530 Před 19 dny

    The Youth doesn't want an electric RE.