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- Starring golf legends Peter Kostis and Gary McCord, the new episode of their hit CZcams series and Podcast, "Kostis & McCord Off Their Rockers" is available to watch now. In the second episode featuring our new segment, Believe it or Not! Peter & Gary discuss rumors from "in the know" pros and industry insiders about the proposed purchase of the PGA of America by the PGA Tour. More about PGA Tour and LIV, a great drill that will help you fix your transition and maybe help get rid of that slice! Then the guys pull back the curtain and share their insight on golf television broadcasts, current and past. With their no-filters takes, irreverent humor and unparalleled understanding of the game, Peter and Gary give their perspective, Coach Kostis gives lessons and drills in every one of our episodes as well as never-before-told stories from Peter & Gary…remember to subscribe (it’s free!) like and share with your golf buddies. Kostis & McCord Off Their Rockers is made possible by the generous support of sponsors, including Foresight Sports, creators of the #1 launch monitor on the PGA Tour, the Quad Pro, and cutting-edge simulators, including the Sim-in-a-Box visit ForesightSports.com. Bonos's Bar B Q, with their amazing smoked meats and sauces, and for more on their franchising opportunities go to BonosBarBQ.com/franchise LAB Golf, creators of the revolutionary and tour-winning LAB putters, known for their unmatched stability through impact, Peter and Gary love reading your comments on the show and appreciate all the subscribers, likes, and sharing the CZcams show. They invite viewers to follow them on social media, listen to the audio podcast on Apple, Spotify, iHeart Podcasts and visit their website at KostisMcCord.com for more news and info. For sponsorship inquiries or potential guest appearances, please contact Mike Abram at mike@thegolfagency.com or call 805-748-5557
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I just realized why this is one of the best podcast out there. It’s because the people giving their commentary and opinion are respected, knowledgeable, and insightful based on their many years of first hand experience and actually living what they’re talking about. All these other podcast are basically some Tom, Dick, and Harry that have no credibility on the subject matter but just provides sensationalism to get clicks. I know Mr Abrams won’t belittle anyone else because he’s classy but Kostis and McCord are the best and lucky for us we have a place to tune in to hear what they have to say. Even Coach Kostis lessons are better than most instruction that is out there.
It really is a pleasure to still have a place to watch/listen these legends.
Thanks so much for your comment and know these are appreciated and the guys love reading them...and thanks for the classy remark!
Great to have Peter & Gary back
it's great to be back!! thanks!!
If the Golf Channel were to go belly up, the big bright spot would be no more Brandel Chamblee. Yeah Ha
The sad thing is that the Golf Channel was Arnold's baby and NBC plus Brandel turned it into a shit show !!!! I only watch the LPGA and that's it as I have not watched the PGA in over 5 years, I have no idea who has won the Masters or any of the other majors either !!!! I think the last master I watched was when Bubba won it with that crazy 90 degree wedge shot out of the wood against Louie Oosthaseun ........LOL Have no idea what year that was !
PIF/LIV should buy The Golf Channel and have it live up to its name. They should also buy or partner with PGA of America and DP World Tour.
@@2Thes22 I totally agree!! I seen where the PGAT is wanting to buy PGA of America the very same entity that Arnold and Jack left over 30-40 years ago ....LOL I SO want the PGA tour to fold and actually get a WORLD WIDE TOUR that has majors all over the planet on some really wonderful new courses with a new WORLD ranking system , the PGA has had a monopoly on golf and have turned golf into a pure shit show now days !!!!!! the PGA has no intentions of GROWING the game , only keeping the monopoly over golf and continue ripping everyone off with their over inflated TV deals and crap !!!!!!!!!!! Still hanging onto Tigers coat tails , hell hes worn out his welcome !!!
appreciate the watch and the comments!
@@shanewilliams1216 I have been thinking about it a little lately - and in reality - the PGA tour that we know was really a creation built around AP. Going back to the 60s - he was probably as close to Michael Jordan in terms of star athlete of that time - he basically created the sports agent - Mark McCormack. So the entire thing was really designed around who Arnold was - and what people liked about him. With the TV came money - and that is what lead to the tour breaking away from the PGA of America in '68. That was basically Arnold and Jack saying this is the market for us - and we are going to determine the rules and how it goes. So in 1993 when Norman tried to start his world tour - it was all set to go until he got an invitation to Arnolds office one day @ Bayhill - and Arnold, Jack and basically the policy board had a little come to Jesus meeting with him and that was the end of it. So it stood to reason that after Arnold is no longer around there would be a complete re alignment. The most important thing about it all was greed. - Yeah Jack and Arnold were the headliners but they created a place where there could be honest competition. Mccord made a huge contribution with the 125 exempt tour in 82 that really opened things up and gave opportunities to guys that would not have happened without it. I think in the long run they will look back and see that greed killed it. Liv is not a sustainable model - hopefully they will come to some type of agreement some way and will minimize the damage but I think 15 -20 yrs from now - this split will never really be fixed and professional golf will never be as popular again.
LIV has introduced a new feature, with which you can follow any player or team. They do have cameras on every hole.
Who cares! Can you name the Team names? Now ask the Public. No one know snd know one cares.
My wife and I watch all LIV tournaments and so far this year three LIV players have already won British Open qualifying tournaments 😉⛳️😇😊
yes that'll start soon, we're looking forward to seeing how it is...thanks Keith!
This is the most interesting golf has been since Lefty and Tiger. Love it
thanks Crawdad!
Love the show and the behind the scenes stories. McCord authored the funniest and most memorable comment at The Masters when Roger Maltbie was playing the 18th and was seating profusely slugging up the fairway and Gary said “now representing the smokers and drinkers on the tour is….” Laughed my ass off!
thanks Bill...Gary keeps us rolling for sure!
Another great chat gents. In regards to TV coverage I can't watch any or very few PGAT events because the coverage is basically rubbish. Watching the Pebble Beach event was unwatchable this year at one of my favourite golf tournaments of the year. Love watching LIV Golf because it's fast paced, it has new technology, I know what the heck is going on at all times, it's dramatic with the team event at the same time as the individual. The Hong Kong event just played showcased the changes in the team placings on the last day...every 5 minutes we had different teams leading the event. They are also not afraid to try something new in their infancy & see if it works or not. But then you turn over to the PGAT & it is just bland. No soul.
It seemed to me that almost every point they made in this podcast about tv coverage issues has been addressed by LIV. I find it much more enjoyable to watch than PGA. When I do watch PGA I am constantly noticing new things that seem to have come from LIV, graphics for the most part.
thanks for your comments!
@@mikecoughlin4128I agree totally
I couldn't agree with Peter more regarding too many announcers in golf today. It's absolutely ridiculous. I could name at least six people now from NBC and CBS who they can shitcan tomorrow and it would be a HUGE improvement over the garbage they are putting out there now.
Most are boring, t immmelman is so drab he could mop a floor!
appreciate your comments!
Love your podcast fellows. Miss having you guys in your former roles. Would you consider having a segment occasionally covering some of the most interesting former players on the pga tour. Example Bruce Lietzke, Jim Dent, Orville Moody, and many who may not have been big stars but may have interesting or quirky personalities.
sounds great mIke...we will look into it...thanks!
I always loved hearing Peter’s explanations of the shots and the Konica Minolta bizhub swing vision camera, I actually have RRHot’s music from that
We'll be bringing them back soon!! Thanks Joe!! Big announcement coming up in the next week or so
LMAO! Please continue with these stories. You guys are great! Love the show!
hundreds more on their way! thanks
Omg - I’d pay for a pay-per-view of JUST you two and Feherty covering any tournament by yourselves
thanks that's a great idea Timothy! appreciate the comments
Some great stories here that could be used on a sitcom (like The Office), about the behinds the scene stuff for a golf broadcast crew. Peter and Gary could be executive producers and creative consultants.
thank you for your comments Richard...yes they could have both contributed to tv/movies in the past
I just found out about this podcast from my Golf mag email newsletter this morning. Lets just say my yard work was left wanting today as I'm up to 8 episodes so far today. I really didn't need another addiction but damn at least it's healthy.
Thanks, I needed this in my life.
Love you guys keep it going. Very informative and funny. Also, I am one of the few guys that read McCord‘s book.
McCord said me he made more off his book than his total pga tour income
hahaha thanks John for chiming in!
This is 10x better then the coverage of any PGA event. TY for all the laughs as always fellas. I'm also left wanting BBQ and trolling for a custom DF3. My wallet does not thank you for that...
thanks so much for your comment!
Amazing conversation about the PGA
Love your podcasts wish there were more. I met McCord when he was playing in two KC tournaments a million years ago and he was talking to me and my buddies just like he speaks on your show what a fun guy 😉⛳️😇😊
Love these stories. Keep up the great work, fellas.
appreciate the comment Mark!
Love the show I really do miss you guys on the broadcast
Lawrence Welk was a sponsor for McCord and he called McCord at a motel where there was a phone only in lobby not each room. What a hoot 😉⛳️😇😊
Great show guys. Lots of interesting information. Can't wait for the next one. 👍
should be next week thanks for your thoughts
I will Never ever have Netflix !!! And I have no interest in these players , they are all prima donnas that have forgotten they play a sport thats nothing more than ENTERTAINMENT , its the FANS that make their paychecks !!!
The PGA is dead to me they are not growing the game they are dragging it through the shit because they do not want to lose their MONOPOLY of GOLF!!
I hope LIV & PIF just start buying up everything and make golf actually WORLD WIDE GOLF entertainment !!!!! They have the opportunity to actually make a new traditions of MAJORS ALL OVER THE WORLD , thats growing the game of GOLF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yep 👍
Right On 😉⛳️😇😊
Yall make way more since than 90% of these kids out here , thanks you guys , and informative
thank you Jake!
Peter you are absolutely right about getting rid of the announcers. For the most part, they don't offer hardly anything more than what you can already see on TV. They cheer for shots, or worse talk to the ball to slow down, get going or whatever. They are obviously prejudiced toward the top players and faun over everything done by Speith, JT, Scheffler, etc. unless they hit poor shots - then they make excuses for the poor play.
And lastly, when they're not falling all over one another to get their inane comments on the air they're always looking for the opportunity to make the grandiose call that will be forever immortalized in sports history. I'm talking to you Mr.Pebble Beach!
thanks mark
Best tv comment ever, Peter Kostis on Patrick Reeds lie, IT'S ALOT BETTER THAN IT WAS A MINUTE AGO ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
too funny totally agree!! thanks for the comment
Love the podcast - always informative and entertaining. About what's wrong with current golf shows, I recall watching an interview with Ben Wright. He said when Frank Chirkinian hired him Ben said he was told by FC if he didnt have anything to add to what is on screen don't say a word. Fast forward to today and the announcers never shut up which is annoying for the viewer. As for mis-speaking on air I heard one announcer years ago say "as he's going to play this shot there's a strong wind coming from his rear". I had tears in my eyes.
Great stuff.. So right about still doing golf on TV like it is 1992. No one has new ideas. Also.. More of those stories are great good content.
Love the episodes keep them coming! Peter and Gary are so entertaining, I grew up listening to you guys announce golf and its nice to be able to see you guys together again. The announcers these days are nowhere near as good as you guys were. It's a true testament as to how good you guys are. And also I love the swing tips from Peter Kostis there great lessons I always like to watch to try and get better!
Thank you Andrew...appreciate the comments and subscribing
Loved the stories, guys!
thank you for the comments
Interesting comments in regards to NBC and their lack of commitment to the PGA Tour.
Great insight and stories guys
Fun... Thanks guys ..Thanks for sharing ... Stay safe and well ...
appreciate it!!
My family were members at Falmouth CC (in Maine) Good to see Peter and Gary working. ;)
thanks Mark!
Great Job Gentlemen....your efforts are appreciated
Craig, thanks for the watch and subscripion and comment!
Great stuff please keep doing these. Your show with your history, brains, & humor is better than any golf podcast out there. Wish you guys were doing LIV. Good luck
thank you Java Ray...more and more to come AND a great new partnership on the way we'll announce it very soon!
Another great episode gents. Thank you for doing this. Miss having you guys on the network broadcast. Either tour would be smart to add you to their staff.
thanks Keith, we think so too! But now you can hear us here! More to come
Really enjoy these episodes.
thanks Jack!
How much longer will the Tour be on Network tv ?Great episode.
Miss you guys on the broadcast. Great show guys, keep it up.
appreciate it Brett
You guys are fun
Love these guys 🐊🏌⛳️🦅🇺🇲❤️
thank you!
Gary your "backward drill" was how I first started swinging when I first started playing. I was in high school and at that time there were no internet to learn about golf, only Golf Digest. I found I could hit the ball real consistent like that. Well, it didn't take long before I got rid of that swing. That is funny now I see you doing that as an aid to help get a feel. Struck me really funny.
Love your stories. The two of you could follow up on Fererty’s program and do interviews with current ,past, and individuals relevant to golf. I’d love to hear caddie stories and conflicts they had with their players. Also I’d like to understand when a player let’s say is hitting an 8 iron from 160 yards then several holes later he has an 8 iron from 190-200 yards.
Excellent podcast...great to see what you two faced. What about letting shorts come to the PGA and minimizing the 1 foot putt shots, or beaming back to an already made shot with the commentary that is so obvious that the shot is in the hole, or an incredible shot.
When I saw the headline I thought it was April 1st!
Then I realized everyday in men's professional golf is April 1st.....
Don't agree about Netflix Full Swing. I think its excellent and provides insights we have not seen before... We need more of this. It makes players human and we see the struggles players are going through. They could improve if it was more current and frequent so it wasn't looking back at 2023 but at the last few months on the tour.......
Great show as always.
love that line "professional golf is april 1" good one Kevin! thank you
Loving this podcast as it talks about the nuts and bolts of what's going on without bias.
thank you for contributing!
He said nuts and bolts😂
your best episode yet guys, still laughing here🤣
thank you Martin! appreciate the comment
This is more interesting than most telecasts especially with so many names on the leaderboard of little interest to the average viewer.
The tournament at Torry Pines was a joke this year with all the A-class golfers leaving the PGA and going to LIV. Like the Sentry in Hawaii, all these unknowns win because there are no good players left in the PGA, except a few who only want to show up for the big events.
Good show! But it sounds like Gary's blanket covered his microphone.
interesting sound when you cover a lav mic eh gents....
I remember watching the the round Bobby Clampett made his faux pas. I also fell out of my seat and since it was before social media I had no one to validate what I thought I just heard. As shocking (and funny) as that was, that still doesn’t beat Johnny Miller “pucker factor” as a shot description. And he’s from Utah!!
thank you Henry for the comment! Thanks for subscribing
Fun left golf coverage with McCord and Feherty. I think maybe spontaneity is the word you guys might be searching for. There isn't any out there in golf coverage.
Your golf coverage comments are spot on. There is so much coverage of the “business of golf” on the Golf Channel lately that I find myself watching documentaries about the iconic courses and players instead. I’d like to see more golf on the Golf Channel and on the event coverage. Less analytics. It’s a sport, not a product. Just show them hitting the shots.
appreciate the comment and post John! thanks for watching
Hey Gary can you address exactly what happened at the Masters and why you're not back there anymore we hear all kinds of stories I'd love to hear it from you
The talent that brought golf alive, for me, on TV was of course the players, but also the greats behind the mic. ie. Kostis, McCord, Venturi, Wright, Lundquist, Nance and of course Chirkinian. I try to watch today's telecasts and I lose interest within minutes. Appreciate your awesome work.
thanks for your kind words...much appreciated!
Absolutely in fairness your probably never going to get that back again - I would have to say Chirkanian is waaaaaaaaay underrecognized / appreciated. He had a MAJOR impact on professional golf because most people got to experience that on TV. Kostis and McCord were definitely contributors and were great but the constant was the Ayatollah. The telecasts now are really bad. Nothing against Trevor Immelmann but he is about as compelling as listening to grass grow - not watching - listening. These guys are right - telling the stories are what a golf telecast is about.
For future topics, TV golf coverage won't do me any good. How about a session on modern golf teaching methods?
I watch DP world as much for the announcers as the golf...
Love the various accents and stories. Attached is a list of people I've heard over just the last 5 yrs.
Sorry couldn't paste the list
70 different announcers
Sky sports
thank you Jeff for the comment!
Be great if Ben wright was around to join in.... Hopefully they will do a piece on him, one of the best ever!
thanks! we did a bit on Ben on Episode 5, here's the link czcams.com/video/-6QCz8UiMPQ/video.html
It used to be free to watch golf unless you paid for cable. Now, you have to pay if you stream and you have to pay extra for cable coverage since basic cable doesn't show golf. No wonder viewing numbers have dropped.
I agree with Peter about the Netflix show. The first season was only fair, and this season had a couple bright spots, but for the most part was anything but exciting. They wanted something similar to the F1 series, and it just isn't there.
thank you, we hope it gets better, a lot of potential there
You are so correct 😉⛳️😇😊
I agree with Peter about the walk and talk interviews. And the sound is always horrible. Why don't they just give the player a regular microphone to use?
makes too much sense and wouldn't be that tough! thanks
I have said this for years.
Remember am radio? Not only did you here music, if they had a story, they told it. That's how you found out stuff about the artist or family.
And, they always told you the name of the artist, AND, then, the name of the song. Good luck with that.
650 am, Nashville country station. Listen to this in the evening. That's what radio was, all over.
Now, remote announcers? Garbage.
Great work guys, and Thank You.
LIV, don't know, don't care. Period.
appreciate your comment Billy
The PGAT is dysfunctional. Why screw up the PGA also? Why not sell the PGA to LIV - for the really big bucks just to end the conflict between tours?😀 Then let pros play wherever they want?
What happens when nbc pulls the pin on pga golf?
The Players finally felt like a major this year - without voicing about it like in the past. Certainly seems better than PGA Championship that got devalued by being sandwiched in May.
Plus, prospects on Europe side not too great… Ryder Cup would be buying that at the top - as well.
How can there 30 to 40 balls in the air at the same time? Wouldn't the max number be around 18? Hello from east coast of Canada lol. Thanks to climate change our golf season here is 4 hours longer now, enough for an extra round and it's made a HUGE difference in my game. Excellent broadcast and I learned a lot :)
PIF/LIV should buy The Golf Channel and have it live up to its name. They should also buy or partner with PGA of America and DP World Tour.
appreciate the watch and comment
The tour now seems to be all about money…not so much chasing history. I saw a very recent interview of Lanny Watkins and the topic of the Ryder Cup came up. He said that he and other past Captains were sitting in a separate room, including greats like Ray Floyd and Lee Trevino. Lanny said NO PLAYER stopped by to say hello and certainly didn’t asked for any advice. Lanny also said he is completely confused of the attitude of the importance of the locker room click. It seemed more like a boys club than a group focused on winning the cup. Different breed I guess.
How does the PGA tour treat on course volunteers? I recently spent 45 minutes online giving my availability for 5 days of the upcoming Presidents Cup in Montreal. Upon completion I was promoted for my credit card information to pay $275 CA. Please note I can well afford $275.00 but I find it insulting to have to pay to volunteer.
thanks for the comment Peter appreciate the watch and subscribing!
The Players charged $75 during the years i
volunteered. After seeing the Financial Reports for those years show that 10% of the profits were from volunteer payments . I haven’t volunteered since.
Full Swing is a ratings success and has already proven to have significantly increased ratings for PGA viewership.
LMAO!...GREAT STORIES!...excuse me while I take care of my bodily fluids..😂
haha thanks for watching and subscribing
Nice guys, a hoot. 😂
appreciate it Richard!
I would say the announcers with personality make the golf better. Also, insight into the players, the shots and conditions are important. I HATE non stop coverage on one player. Bottom line is sports journalists is atrocious these days, and it’s bleeding into the broadcast
Long time CBS golf announcer Ben Wright has passed. May he rest in peace. Wonder if Peter and Gary have some reminiscences they'd care to share. About a beloved colleague.
the fellas have talked about Ben on previous episodes...I believe #3 and #4 thank you!
WELL WELL ALMOST 54 MINS, THATS MUCH BETTER LOL.. THESE GUYS ARE ABSOLUTE DIFFERENT GRAVY...
Are they at Troon North?
No we’re at Terravita CC a private club in North Scottsdale AZ
@@kostismccord Ah, up by Black Mountain, yes! Great show by the way. Much appreciated to see you both talking as opposed to these insufferable podcasters. Or maybe I'm just a grumpy Gen X'er
I love the podcast. Great to see Peter and Gary. You guys were the best and CBS was always the best in golf. It'll never be the same too many. Stiffs. I'm 65 years old. I've been watching you guys since long as I can remember! But I will never watch the greed tour the liv tour. I think money is ruining the game. I do not like the format. Let's face it. These guys are just greedy long live the PGA tour. I'll stop watching golf and just play golf if I have to ever watch the liv tour
Buying the PGA would further enhance the position of PGAT in keeping out the LIV players even more. So now the LIV guys will not be able to play Ryder or PGA Champ ..... So the fans that want to see the best v best can just go shove it, we want some revenge. And we want to hold on to the superior Tour Title and continue to keep the best players in the USA only ......... well, if this happens the current Karma that is engulfing the PGAT will increase 10 fold and will bring about a collapse in viewership from disgruntled fans
What happens to LPGA coverage if the GOLF CHANNEL is sold or shut down?
Nobody watches the LPGA 😢
What kind of moustache wax does Gary use? ;-)~
hi there Robert...Pinaud/clear thanks
So will PGA professionals still be allowed to play in the PGA championship?
PROBABLY!! we'll see...thanks for the comments
Is Gary still doing anything with Wacko Grady??
haha no, but we will talk about his time with him..thanks for the comment and for subscribing
Couple weeks ago word was PIF tryna get DP tour.....now we hear this??????? Damage control much?
haha thanks for the comments much more to come!
Legends. These 53 min flew bye.
As far as some of the topics discussed:
The only thing more boring than 2 boring talking heads in the booth is 4!
As you said they’re could be 3o balls in the air but we get 4 talking heads. It’s like they are joking.
There’s a lot of people who still hate on LIv and I do agree their coverage deserves critique; especially from the likes of you two; but LIv coverage is a big step up.
Golf coverage needs to entertain outside of golf shots but at the end of the day people are tuning in for golf shots.
LIv Breaks from golf shots are used properly to balance the coverage; which is the opposite of what the networks are doing: a few golf shots to Balance all the other stuff.
And I do think the team is being entertaining with a good mix of characters.
I hated the walk and talks first. I’m glad to hear you two dislike them. Your old boy Nantz -whom has become more sheltered living at pebble than Bobby- is in love with them. But I will say walk and talks are not as bad with an interviewer walking with the player. And I will add nbc is doing a better job than cbs on the walk and talks.
thanks so much!!
LIV should buy or partner with PGA of America. Monopolies are not good for players or fans.
thanks for watching and commenting
Peak PGA Tour is just a speck in the rear view mirror.
No way PGA Tour buys PGA of America, and LIV needs television money to survive the next two years. Saudi Arabia wants a return on their investments which is these players not the format. Players sell the tournament not the format. The Masters and Open might be the only exceptions.
TV GOLF is like watching paint dry😢
appreciate your comments
Keep up the network war stories. Maybe w/some Chuck Will stories, Franks alter ego.
thank you Joe!
PGA Tour is passe.
JT, flamed out
Spieth, flamed out
Fowler, flamed out
Bradley, flamed out
Rory, supernova flame out
Other guys, who cares
Broadcasts are completely boring
LIV has figured this out
thanks Chief
I like watching LPGA but this week I had enough. I watched with the tournament with the sound off. I had enough of the announcers talking too much, while the players playing the stroke, and starting their comments with “I”. I would’ve done this or I think she feels this way. Plus one of the chatterbox has a high, nasally voice that is very annoying and not subtle for tv. Her initials are MP. As far as PGA, what’s wrong with leaving well enough alone? Why move on from Roget Maltby, Gary Koch, Kostis and McCord when they provide experience, comfort and familiarity. Is Kisner or Knost better than what has worked all these years?
Blue balls and jizm.
I’m not watching Full Swing. It’s just a propaganda wing of the PGA Tour.
Liv buys dp tour
probably will happen...thanks for the comment
The Netflix series is boring because everything they talk about has already happened. It needs to show current conflicts and personalities. Who cares about how the Ryder Cup team was picked.
thanks Thomas
Why don't you record indoors so you don't freeze your asses off?
haha we were going to hit some shots...we not expecting it so cold!! we'll be inside next time thanks!
Peter couldn’t be more wrong about the Joel dahman stuff. Those are the stories I want to hear on shows like that. Hearing Peter talk about all the liv stuff is what is boring. It’s all inside baseball
appreciate your thoughts thanks