Drive through Monument Valley Tribal Park’s 17 mile off-road adventure & Travel Guide

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  • Detailed descriptions of the 17 mile driving tour through the valley. Professional PHOTO TIPS to get the best photos in the park. Also, where to stay and other things to do while in the area.

Komentáře • 148

  • @chengzhao6405
    @chengzhao6405 Před 3 lety +4

    THE Best video guide of Monument Valley and surroundings

  • @attwasmi
    @attwasmi Před 6 měsíci +1

    Spectacular!!! We had our Chevy 3500 Dually. It was very tight and low. I was very careful. You have the most beautiful collection of images!! Thank You!

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před 6 měsíci

      Thanks 👍for the comment! and for subscribing!

  • @MissingFromPartsUnknown
    @MissingFromPartsUnknown Před 4 lety +9

    Thanks for this! Hands down the most amazing place I've ever been to. I rented a $200+ per night cabin with a front row view of the Mittens... it had a kitchen with no pots pans dishes cutlery etc. So I ended up eating at the restaurant and spending a lot more. Still, a once-in-a-lifetime trip so I don't regret it! Bought some amazing artwork at their giftshop as well. Hoping to make it a twice in a lifetime trip from Canada!

  • @martinforrester8249
    @martinforrester8249 Před 3 lety +5

    I've been lucky enough to visit many times since 1992 camping (Tent not RV) at the old site overlooking the mittens before that hotel spoilt the perfect view. Also several days on horseback with a Navajo guide sleeping under the stars, magical and so different from my home in Shropshire UK. Memories that last forever.

  • @GoTraveler
    @GoTraveler Před 4 lety +6

    Love the history recap of the beautiful, Monument Valley.

  • @johnrogers001
    @johnrogers001 Před 3 lety +2

    Superb video tour. I appreciate the photo tips

  • @texgal3990
    @texgal3990 Před 5 lety +2

    Omg! Thank you for the tour and all the great tips. This place is amazing

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před 5 lety

      Thanks! You might also enjoy my 90 min version that covers much more in the greater Four Corners area including Utah’s nothional Parks. My Road Less Traveled series includes other places in NW New Mexico, like chaco Canyon and ShipRock

  • @cheyennedanz8567
    @cheyennedanz8567 Před rokem +2

    Stayed here in Oct. 2022. Stayed at the Goulding's Lodge for one night. It was very nice. Also visited Gooseneck's SP and Mexican Hat Rock for a short time. Did the 17 mile loop twice. Once in the morning and once late afternoon. Time well spent.

  • @reikomyles1495
    @reikomyles1495 Před 4 lety +3

    Your video, still photography, knowledge of the area, and professional narration was exceptional. Thank you for sharing.

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před 4 lety +1

      Thanks! Be sure to check out my "Road Less Traveled" which covers other interesting destinations in the Four Corners.

  • @poopee2012
    @poopee2012 Před 5 lety +2

    beautiful video

  • @salalaos1641
    @salalaos1641 Před 4 lety +1

    Awesome! And the professional shots. Love it!

  • @danielsahnn
    @danielsahnn Před 2 lety +7

    Loved the amount of time and information dedicated to put this video together! I’m visiting in late November so I’m hoping to camp one day!

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před 2 lety

      Thanks for recognizing the effort. I'm hoping to go in Dec. I've never been there in the winter.

  • @harrisonkerr8539
    @harrisonkerr8539 Před 3 lety +2

    Going there this March so excited

  • @robertmetzger1753
    @robertmetzger1753 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank You !! Ilove this stuff !!

  • @manancialcelestialroseking2446

    My favorite landscape in the U.S. I visited it in 2007.

  • @bradthurkle7217
    @bradthurkle7217 Před 4 lety +1

    Amazing. So want to go there...

  • @950Brandon
    @950Brandon Před 4 lety +2

    By far the best guiding video for Monument Valley! Good job sir! sorry I laughed so hard when the gentleman walked into your shot...

  • @JJ-iq5cv
    @JJ-iq5cv Před 2 lety +1

    This is an amazing video, filled with high quality information - thank you for posting it

  • @tndavidson2009
    @tndavidson2009 Před 5 lety +17

    Stayed here for 2 days back in March. Wish I could have stayed longer. There is so much to see here. Goulding’s lodge is close enough to get great views but half the price of The View and you can get your own cabin. This place was amazing!

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před 5 lety

      Agreed. I've stayed at Gouldings and its nice.

    • @tonygareth221
      @tonygareth221 Před 4 lety

      Tell me more. I’m planing a week long road trip and I want to go here. A hotel would be nice but camping in tent would be cool too. Trying to figure it all out now. I’m going in May

    • @maricarmenvalladares8795
      @maricarmenvalladares8795 Před 4 lety

      @@tonygareth221 Did you go? My daughter and I are planning to go this month. I hope everything goes well.

    • @martinforrester8249
      @martinforrester8249 Před 3 lety

      Do you have any idea how much those "sheds" cost per night ? Utter ripoff.

    • @CE-vd2px
      @CE-vd2px Před 3 lety

      @@martinforrester8249 sleep in your car

  • @ashvarma2486
    @ashvarma2486 Před 4 lety +1

    The best video I have seen on Monument Valley. Thank you so much for sharing all the great tips and locations. Looking forward to our next trip there. Seems to have changed a lot since our last visit.

  • @PaulPerry1
    @PaulPerry1 Před měsícem +1

    Excellent video thank you.

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před měsícem

      Thanks for watching, subscribing and commenting

  • @jimbo3609
    @jimbo3609 Před 2 lety +2

    You had the best video on Monument valley! I laugh when you say, No good deeds go unpunished! LOL

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před 2 lety +1

      thanks. that’s the goal for all my videos

  • @jgirl10941
    @jgirl10941 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video... thank you.

  • @acruz92
    @acruz92 Před 4 lety +1

    Great video. Thanks for posting!

  • @victoryutube4329
    @victoryutube4329 Před 2 lety +1

    I’m here and this is exactly what I needed.

  • @carztendk
    @carztendk Před 5 lety +1

    Thank you very much for this. I'm going there myself this summer, and your information is very handy. Thanks again :-)

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před 5 lety

      Thanks! Btw- this segment is part of my 90 min travel guide covering 8 national parks in the four corners area. It’s on my youtube channel. And last week I released a video called Beyond Monument Valley. It covers more places within an hour of Monument Valley. These videos will be quite helpful.

  • @hopeulikenudes
    @hopeulikenudes Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks for sharing your adventures.

  • @francoishebert9861
    @francoishebert9861 Před 5 lety +1

    I'm a "Easy Rider" movie fan and I swear to God that I will visit this area sooner or later... Nice video, it shows what I should expect in area..

  • @xihuantiyu
    @xihuantiyu Před rokem +1

    Great video, terrific photos. I am considering to visit this place in march

  • @FirstQube
    @FirstQube Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thanks to you I must visit Monument Valley!

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Yes you do. fyi- the fee to get in has been raised.

    • @FirstQube
      @FirstQube Před 4 měsíci

      @@TheWestisBig So what? I'm sure it is totally worth it.

  • @moisesbenavides
    @moisesbenavides Před 2 lety +1

    Awesome video! Thank you.

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před 2 lety

      you’re welcome. thanks for appreciating the work

  • @Juizhaigou
    @Juizhaigou Před 3 lety +1

    Wunderbar! I hired a car in Arizona and spent an unforgettable week there, including Monument Valley about 40 years ago.

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před 3 lety +1

      It's still a great place. But more commercialized but still nice. I'm hoping to go there this winter to see it with snow.

  • @toxictabasco
    @toxictabasco Před 5 lety +2

    Great information about the loop drive. I'm planning a trip there soon. This will help greatly.

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před 5 lety

      Thanks. Fyi i’m about to release a Beyond Monument Valley where i show other thing to see within an hour’s drive. it’s a part of my Riad Less Traveled series on my Channel.

  • @keithbrekeen3917
    @keithbrekeen3917 Před 4 lety +2

    This was a great video for our upcoming trip to monument valley. Your pictures and descriptions are beautiful. Thank you for sharing!

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před 4 lety

      I hope you know Monument Valley tribal park is closed!!!! Due to COVID 19

    • @keithbrekeen3917
      @keithbrekeen3917 Před 4 lety

      Thanks for the information. We will plan our trip accordingly. Not going until Sept 🙏 things may change. I see other places around the valley are open so is there enough to do in other areas for a couple days?

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před 4 lety

      I hope it will be open by then too, I need a trip! There lots of things to do and see in the 4 corners. I have several videos on the 4 corners area including a couple on Monument Valley Side Trips and little monument valley- they and the others likely will help you plan what's best for you.

  • @NATIONALJAYOGRAPHIC
    @NATIONALJAYOGRAPHIC Před 4 lety +1

    I found you through suggested videos. First your videos are very informative and some great editing for me to learn. I just made a CZcams channel so I’m definitely doing my research. Thanks for all your help. - Keep it up! Just subbed!

  • @prinzapollovonundzu8563
    @prinzapollovonundzu8563 Před 4 lety +1

    Wonderfull, awesome

  • @williamscoggin1509
    @williamscoggin1509 Před rokem +1

    I've always had photography for a hobby, congratulations on those shots with the rainbow and son cutting across the top of the Rock. Totally awesome. I'd gone to goblin valley State Park. And it was solid overcast and really muddied up the lighting and killed the colors of the formations. I was so disappointed because I had driven a long way for disappointing photos but ended up glad that I had what I ended up with anyway. It is all in the lighting and having your camera with you no matter where you go because you never know when I get photo or materialize unexpectedly. 👍🏻

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před rokem

      I waited for hours for that shot. Saw the weather was going to get interesting at the right time and just waited until it did. Weather knowledge is handy.

  • @TALHA0632
    @TALHA0632 Před 2 lety

    Thanks. Great video...

  • @rexmcdo5951
    @rexmcdo5951 Před rokem +1

    thank you. That was great. We were just there but didn't go in the park because of time. Next time.

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před rokem

      It's well worth it but also check out nearby Valley of the Gods, Of course my channel has a video about it

  • @TheKckaloha
    @TheKckaloha Před 3 lety +1

    Wow!!! Great video 💥
    So much information

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks, I assume you havent seen my Covid update. Please know Monument Valley and all Tribal parks are closed due to Covid

    • @TheKckaloha
      @TheKckaloha Před 3 lety

      @@TheWestisBig such a bummer 😞

  • @rameshankar
    @rameshankar Před rokem +1

    We were just here - Dec 2022. Stayed at Goulding’s Lodge. This area is quite remote, so lodging and dining options are limited.
    December weather was crisp but clear skies. We completed the loop to see all sights in Monument Valley in about 3 hours. The Navajo nation charges $8 per passenger - entry is allowed only till 3 pm. After that it becomes dusk and you will not be able to see the scenic beauty of this place clearly. Recommend that you get in around 11 am - 1 pm, so that you have enough time to leisurely drive around. The road is unpaved, but was not a problem in a minivan.
    Definitely worth a visit. The sense of scale is hard to capture on a camera. It is amazing to see these huge structures formed over millennia.

  • @SensatiousHiatus
    @SensatiousHiatus Před 4 lety +1

    At 13:38 ...Wow! Great video! I live in Flagstaff and can’t believe I haven’t been there yet.

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před 4 lety +1

      Yes the Goosenecks is a great place. Be sure you go to Muley Point too.

  • @johnboy5736
    @johnboy5736 Před 4 lety +1

    Hiya.. Excellant well done. Thank you

  • @cool4fam99
    @cool4fam99 Před 4 lety +1

    well done!

  • @johnmoran8174
    @johnmoran8174 Před rokem +1

    It's been decades since we visited and now things are so much more expensive and complicated. It's not affordable for many Americans but the foreign travelers (in many U.S. vacation areas) think everything is a bargain. Sad that things are so expensive and controlled now but it's the Navajo's country and the dollar is king. Hope to make one last visit to Monument Valley before long.

  • @tarakwagle2583
    @tarakwagle2583 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for all info! Iam sitting here in the view hotel referring to your video for photography location.

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před 2 lety +1

      wow! I wish I was! Be sure to tell them my video helped you decide where to stay. Maybe they’ll comp me a room on my next trip. The TearDrop requires a guide but its a nice spot.

  • @thomasshi8863
    @thomasshi8863 Před 4 lety +1

    Booked flight to visit there in April. Your tips on photography are well appreciated!

    • @robertbarrett1166
      @robertbarrett1166 Před 4 lety +1

      Go to the high look out point as the sun sets to view monuments ! You won’t regret it!

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před 4 lety +1

      I hope this virus won't effect your plans.

    • @thomasshi8863
      @thomasshi8863 Před 4 lety

      @@TheWestisBig given the situation right now we probably won't be able to make the trip :(

  • @luzvilca3806
    @luzvilca3806 Před 5 lety +1

    I love it!!
    Nice video 👍
    Without A.C. good for winter, what about summer in those hotels? . 😆

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před 5 lety +1

      Thanks!! it gets cool at night. The other places have AC and the Owner of that place was in the process of renovating when I was there last year- some of the rooms my have AC now.

  • @JazzLowrider
    @JazzLowrider Před rokem +1

    Thanks for a great video it helped me a lot, this place is literally out of this world, i just got here 2 days ago and, the prices of hotels doubled from what i heard from you, the view hotel charges $380 a night, and the pickup trucks tours $100 each and you have to buy 2 tickets if you're alone 😔, and $8 just to get in the park every thing around this area is over priced, , also phone signal is spoty around here , and wifi is slow it's a shame a lot more people will come here if its a little more reasonable.

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před rokem +1

      Good to know thanks! The post pandemic travel boom by has given lots the place the ability to raise prices. I bet the little motel in Mexican Hat is less than $50. Didn’t know they require singles to buy 2 tickets! the place has changed for the worse.

    • @JazzLowrider
      @JazzLowrider Před rokem

      @@TheWestisBig actually i went to canyonlands Motel in Mexican hat, the price is $60 which is very reasonable but they had some problems no hot water, so i stayed at Kayenta in a Motel called wetherill inn , about $160 anight, its a nice town about 25 minutes south of Monument Valley, thanks again for your input i felt like i knew the area before i came in.

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před rokem +1

      Ah good you tried the Canyonlands. Too bad about the hot water and the drive all the way down to Kayenta

  • @screechingowl7613
    @screechingowl7613 Před 5 lety

    Aren't you allowed to walk or cycle around Monument Valley?

  • @matthewsetzer5251
    @matthewsetzer5251 Před 2 lety

    Why do these views of Arizona always give me a cozy fuzzy feeling Inside ???

  • @Sami-rp7mf
    @Sami-rp7mf Před rokem +1

    Excellent video. Thinking going in 2nd week in November from Flagstaff. You think it'll be a good idea. Won't be doing too much walking and just probably take the tour.TY

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před rokem

      I think that’s a great idea, i’ll be out there around them also. weather could be interesting in good and bad ways. i’ll be flexible with route

    • @Sami-rp7mf
      @Sami-rp7mf Před rokem +1

      @@TheWestisBig can't stop watching this video. This has so much info that I need to write down. TY. I may not take a tour so this will be perfect. I'll be renting a truck or something from AZ. Thinking to go to Antelope, Monument Vally, Canyon de Cheelly and lastly meteor. Last Q. You think 4 full days is good enough with teens? Thanks again

    • @Sami-rp7mf
      @Sami-rp7mf Před rokem

      Did you have to air down tires.

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před rokem +1

      first, i assume you’ve subscribed and have seen my 2hr Utah Parks tour that talks about the places u mentioned. It doesn’t take long to see meteor crater. Canyon de Chelly can take all day especially if you hike down to WhiteHouse. since it’s on the way, drive through Petrified Forest. When in Page AZ check out Lake Powell and hike up to the Horseshoe overlook. that’s a day. Mon valley is a day. There will be no cel coverage for at least some of the trip - tough for teens. 4 days will be busy depending weather. no need to reduce tire pressure at mon valley. Shader trail can be tougher

  • @roadking99jokerst60
    @roadking99jokerst60 Před rokem +1

    A movie that related to Harleys and LE motor officers was partly filmed there. Electra Glide In Blue. I gotta see the area someday.

    • @roadking99jokerst60
      @roadking99jokerst60 Před rokem

      Friend, you deserve the accolades for your lovely, inspiring and informative videos. Subbed.

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před rokem

      thank you! it’s nice to hear the work is appreciated!!

  • @roebucksadventure
    @roebucksadventure Před 2 lety +1

    Would the last week in April be a good time to visit the Valley? Also would I be able to ride my harley on the park's 17 mile road?

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před 2 lety

      That should be a good time to go. Might be windy/ dusty. Ive been there around then and it was very good! ive seen lots of harleys in the parking lot there but don’t recall seeing any on the loop road. road conditions vary with weather etc. some of the sand is deep.

  • @tripinagain
    @tripinagain Před 4 lety

    Help Me Out !!.. Whats The Music Playing At 2:30... ?? Also Love Your Video Man.. Some Really Cool Photos..

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před 4 lety

      thanks. that and all the music used is youtube safe from their download site. any other recorded music causes lots of copyright hassles- as i know to my cost

  • @erictucker98
    @erictucker98 Před 4 lety

    Teardrop Arch B&B is ok. its a cabin/shed with a couple beds inside. rate was $100 for the night. the bathroom is inside the owners house. and breakfast was... well we left at 8am so i guess it was served after that. We got up at 530 am and got the best view of the morning sunrise.

  • @jeffp3415
    @jeffp3415 Před 4 lety

    Is there a place we can park a small camper, so we don't have to pull it through the valley loop?

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před 4 lety +1

      There's a large parking lot near The View Hotel.

  • @tonygareth221
    @tonygareth221 Před 4 lety

    Wanting to see as much as I can in about 5 days time (two days will be travel but I ll have 5 days to roam) so monument valley and surrounding areas is what I wanna do. Will camp some, will stay in hotels some .

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před 4 lety

      To make the most of your time, check out My Road Less Traveled series which includes 3-4 videos you might be interested in- Bisti, Valley of the gods, Mexican Hat, Moki Dugway, Hovenweep, Chaco the 4 corners site (which isn't great) and more
      4czcams.com/video/mu0PmYR9U3k/video.html

  • @mr.commander3947
    @mr.commander3947 Před rokem +1

    3 bends together is very rare,,,, I saw some bends at arch national park in the north of this video,, but not like 2 of them here,, yes, it has 3,, but you only can see 2 in one direction,,, but stilll worth a champion ....

  • @moisessilvasilva6047
    @moisessilvasilva6047 Před rokem +2

    Este país tem uma das mais belas geografias do planeta, regiões gigantescas desérticas certamente haviam dinossauros nativos tribais ....seria possivel diante da possibilidade de uma guerra nuclear...um lugar desses poderá ser um bom refúgio pra os sobreviventes quem sabe??? Uma maravilha da natureza americana DEUS gosta da América 👍

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před rokem

      since you like deserts you should also watch my Utah videos

  • @motleydesign
    @motleydesign Před rokem +1

    Ben there 2x in 2013 and 2018 wil be back 🤠

  • @Felix-mp2vj
    @Felix-mp2vj Před 11 měsíci

    From the video I have the impression this spot is better as panorama than in a tour car...

  • @zundappchef
    @zundappchef Před 5 lety +3

    Valley of the Gods is the same but without all the people , seems to me u have been doing close to the same trip as what i have been doing for years

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před 5 lety +2

      True! My channel has a drone flyover video of valley of the Gods. Soon I'll have a narrated version of it that will include Mexican Hat

    • @luzvilca3806
      @luzvilca3806 Před 5 lety

      @@TheWestisBig,
      Jijiji.. ariba arriba

  • @moisessilvasilva6047
    @moisessilvasilva6047 Před rokem +1

    Falo português do Brasil.

  • @handsfree1000
    @handsfree1000 Před 4 lety +1

    No good deed goes unpunished 🤣

  • @kiykim277
    @kiykim277 Před 4 lety

    so there is no more camping what so ever?

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před 4 lety +2

      There an RV campground a few miles up the road. Also, the amazing Goosenecks State Park is 30-or so up the road near Mexican Hat. See my Monument Valley Side trips video or My Road Less Traveled series on the area for slightly more info.

  • @elieabi-lamah2209
    @elieabi-lamah2209 Před rokem

    Donald will be choosing the advertisements henceforth

  • @magardunoe
    @magardunoe Před rokem

    The bottom of a pre - historic OCEAN GONE ! : czcams.com/video/JPXMofwNubE/video.html
    Paleo Geophisical - Disneyland!

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před rokem +1

      I assume you’re aware of Dr Scotese and his paleo geography channel. great stuff

  • @randyhawks7549
    @randyhawks7549 Před 8 měsíci

    I used to love going to Monument Valley until they started charging $500 just to take a picture during a sunrise or sunset that is not freedom that's robbery, yes you heard me you have to hire a guide if you want to take a picture, that's not right, not right at all.

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před 8 měsíci

      Really! When were u there? this is news to me.

    • @randyhawks7549
      @randyhawks7549 Před 8 měsíci

      A week ago, and I got kicked out because I was going to take a morning sunrise photo. @@TheWestisBig

    • @TheWestisBig
      @TheWestisBig  Před 8 měsíci

      Wow!! i’m heading that way to shoot an update- if they kick me out i’ll get it on video!

    • @randyhawks7549
      @randyhawks7549 Před 8 měsíci

      I take my photography very serious, and I have spent many days and nights shooting photos there, never got a wall hanger though. I was at Artist Point just before sunrise and it was looking good, there was a lot of color in the sky all I was waiting for is the sun to raise just to give some side light, when all of a sudden, a new Chevy Suburban dove up, I thought, great here comes the photographers now. I had two cameras sitting on tripods when this Indian guy jumps out of the Suburban saying, go, go, right now, go, go, he was mad as hell. I was completely taken of guard; I thought the guy wanted to fight me. I'm 53 and had a major stoke a few years back, I'm paralyzed on my right side and can barely talk. He said,'' I'm sick and tired of you photographers thinking that you own the land and just go''. I told him many times have I been here and that there's been no problem what's so ever. At this point a man jumps out of the passenger side of the Suburban with a camera and tripod and I say, "what's this, what's this?'' The Indian said I'm his guide and you have to pay me before you can take a photo. I asked him when it is OK to take photos and he said between 1p.m. and 5p.m. the other photographer just laughed and said you can't take a photo during the day the light is horrible. I packed up my cameras while the sun was just starting to come up and the photographer got a killer shot the one, I've been waiting all my life to get. That place has now become Animal Farm the greedy pigs have taken over the farm, you'll have to hire a guide to do anything in the park, they had a good thing going there for years and they screwed it up. They're just going to get their money from the foreigner, that's what they think and they're right, you can up the prices on everything, and the foreigners will still come while drowning out the working-class Americans. @@TheWestisBig

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      @TheWestisBig  Před 8 měsíci

      Wow!!! Thanks for the detail! I'll include this story in the next update. I've been there 6ish times over the last 30 yrs. Since they built the hotel its been getting worse and there have been many more fees but requiring a guide to take a sunrise shot is ridiculous. It used to be one of my favorite places- they are ruining it.
      again thanks for the info.